Hey scientists out there, why is my arm gaining like this?

>>38800264
I'm tapping the delete button but it does nothing.

>>38800264
I just started Lifting and my Arm also looks like this

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>>38800295
Well memed my friend

>>38800264
Just a bit of tricep mass.

Forget about arms and focus on shoulders and back

>>38800264
Wtf nip

>>38800264
Ohhh, thats very abnormal. You should probably stop lifting.

>>38800312
I'm trying. I'm still beginning so I don't think I should forget arms tho. I am doing back and shoulder workouts but I started from nothing so Ito gonna take awhile

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>>38800264
Literally the worst nip in existence

>>38800346
OH MY GOD DO LEGS

>>38800264
Do people on this board even fucking lift?

Someone is not taking their FSOTD seriously

>I know that nipple

Derek, is that you?

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>>38800351
I like my nips fuck off

>>38800264

OP is retarded etc. but for real are there any tricep exercises that build the lower part near the elbow?

I've been making decent tricep gains but they are kind of top heavy like in the OP pic.

The tricep exercises I've been doing are bench, dips and push-downs.

>>38800404
I've been lifting for literally 1 month you damn aspie.

>>38800421
those nips look like they gave up on life, kekekek

>>38800421
>>38800264

Lil' Nippie

>>38800421
You're built like a fucking washing board, you pecless, titless faggot.

>>38800441
Show me yours then. Unless youre scared?

>>38800447
Currently kekking. We all have to start somewhere I aint bothered

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>>38800454
What now, faggot.

>>38800346
Trust me.

Training back is all you need for bicep

Training delts and chest is all you need for tricep

Forget about arms, your arms are already wider than your delts.

That is a horribly unaesthetic delt:arm ratio

Delts should be ar LEAST as wide as the widest part of your flexed arm.

Forget about arms.

Mine are bigger than yours, and i have literally NEVER trained them.

They are still (imo) too big for my tiny ass delts

>>38800421
Why are you posting on /fit/ when you could (should) be lifting

>>38800489
I already lifted today

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>>38800482
>Forget about arms
I hesitate to post my pic, as people think i am trying to show off or some shit.

So let me clarify
-I am not bragging about my size
-I am not saying "look at me, i am so jacked"
-I understand i am pretty DYEL.

My point in posting this is to show that if you never train arms, you can still have a shitty delt:arm ratio, on account of having teeny tiny delts (pic related)

Natties have a hard time buildinng delt mass, so training arms as a natty only leads to unaesthetic proportions

Do not fall for the arm training meme

100% of people who claim their arms are too small
>have no delts
>have no back

Never have i ever even seen a picture where someone had nice round delts and tiny arms

>inb4 you all shit on me for my DYELness

>>38800428
>what are insertions?

>>38800482
>>38800748
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wVXR6kv_nGI

Once again, some stupid ass posts in here.

If your body's cracking or you're not even feeling your muscle being worked, this shit can happen. Starting out its noticeable.

To fix, fix your form before u start repping like a motherfucker. Go slow if it's necessary. None of that cracking shit. Squeeze the muscle at the peak on every rep. Make sure the muscle your targeting is the muscle being it.

>>38801035
You sure you're posting in the right thread?

>>38800748
Arms matter too senpai. You can show them off while being fully clothed. Obv curl bros take it too far, but you should work them.

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>>38800421
>>38800264
Arm gains, where?

You have a twig as a bicep.

that's your sailors muscle, stop jerking off so much.

>>38800264
I assume your shit shoulder posture is for our viewing benefit....

Looks like your lateral triceps head has been going through some hypertrophy, keep it up anon.

>>38800494
no excuse. Go back and lift more.

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>>38801118
I disagree 100%
You will absolutely train your arms enough through chin ups, pull ups, rows, bench press, and overhead press

I am not saying tiny arms are sexy.

I am saying if you never train arms directly, you will still get proportionally big enough (arguably too big, if you are a deltlet like me)

And that focusing on arms can really fuck up your aesthetics

There are pictures of people with proportionally overdeveloped arms.

I have NEVER EVER EVER seen a picture of someone with proportionally underdeveloped arms.

If you have arms that are too small, your back and delts are too small.

Until i see a picture of a natty with well developed back and shoulders, with underdeveloped arms, i will remain convinced that training arms is a bad idea for a natty

Consider this:
You cannot train delts and pecs properly without training tricep.
You cannot train back without training bicep.

Look at the vast musculature of the back.
Look at your relatively much smaller bicep.

You really think your bicep can handle/require more training volume than the entirety of your back musculature??!?

>>38801167
>using your tricep to fap
...what?
How?!
Explain the biomechanics of this movement pattern to me.

>>38801189
Noobs heed my warning. THIS IS NOT TRUE. DON'T FALL FOR THE COMPOUNDS TRAIN ARMS MEME!

>>38801205
He's grabbing his dick thumb-toward-body and trying to pull it off.

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>>38801189
Put these two pics side by side, and tell me which is more aesthetic

Delt:arm ratio is the second most important proportion for aesthetics.

The only thing more important is shoulder:waist ratio

>>38801232
Kek that actually works.

Fapping knuckle side up is a sign of aggression, bro.

Joe rogan said so

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>>38801229
Post your delt:arm ratio, fag

>>38801189
for shoulders do 4x6 seated dumbell shoulder press as heavy as possible(last set AMRAP)
then do front lateral raises but really squeeze your delt finish it off with side lateral raises like this 5 reps then hold it at top for 5 seconds then 4 reps then hold it at the top for 4 seconds and so on like that

my delts exploded from that

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Been lifting for one month

Mire my exfatty nips, I am just chubby now

>>38801253
>Fapping knuckle side up is a sign of aggression, bro.
Is it? I've just become so used to using my left hand that it doesn't feel like a stranger anymore. In fact, I can't get off unless I'm using my left hand now. I can still use my right hand, but it feels too "plain" if that even makes any sense. I swap between the two, but I can only cum with my left hand.

>>38801189
You would look so much better with bigger delts, that last piece to the puzzle.

Try dumbell OHP,

>>38801266
Post delts?

Doesn't sound any more effective than my current delt routine, desu
I typically do two heavy sets (4-6rm)
Then two volume sets (6-10rm)
Every set is AMRAP

Then i do similar for side lat raise, except my volume sets are 15-25 reps (heavy sets are still 4-6rm)

I also regularly do landmine press and push press as accessory lifts

If you calculate the training volume (setsxrepsxload) you get more total volume if you do RPT than only focusing on heavy sets
And two AMRAP sets of your 4-6rm is enough for maximal strength adaptation, so no reason not to go with higher volume (as progressively overloading training volume is literally what causes hypertrophy)

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>>38801261
My body is irrelevant but here you are. My delts are shit, they're a weak point, but the main issue was I had meaty pecs and joocy lats but shit bis and tris, thus I started hammering on the accessory work.

>>38801315
I do db ohp regularly, standing and seated.

My barbell ohp stalled at 1pl8x5 and after a deload didnt help, i switched to db only, and am currently progressing on that. Plan on switching to bar when db progression stalls

Also do db push press from time to time.

My upper chest is my biggest lacking muscle.

Upper chest, delts, and back are literally all i give a fuck about anymore (in that order)

when did crossfags start making saying "amrap" a thing instead of "to failure"??

>>38801345
>garbage delt:arm ratio
>even worse delts than me
Dropped

>>38801369
Amrap =\= to failure
You fucking DYEL

>>38801378
But training arms stops them lagging behind pecs and back. NOT training arms doesn't make my delts grow faster.

>>38801390
what does it mean then?
>AMRAP = as many rep as possible
>to failure = until another rep cannot be done at that weight
yes; a 1RM is to failure

>>38801395
Show me someone with pecs and back and no arms.

I will wait

>>38801261
You look like absolute shit and shouldnt give broscience advice

Pressing your skinnyfat arms against your body isnt really helping bruh i bet this is you with a pump lmao
You look like you've been lifting 2 months tops

I've been lifting for 5 years and this goes out to all those noobs out there:

train every muscle, do not neglect any part of your body
Do both compounds and isolation and dont listen to dyel ugly faggots like this guy
Most likely he's a manlet too

>>38801407
Amrap = completed reps with proper form
To failure = can happen mid rep, form can break down

>>38801429
>thinks flexed muscles are squishy
>thinks 14% bf is skinnyfat
>doesn't post his 5 years of gains
Post delt:arm ratio now

>>38801429
If he complained about overdeveloped arms, why would he lie about arm size?
As an aside, i squished my flexed arm against my body, and if anything it made my delts pop out, not my arms

>>38801444
>thinks he's 14% bf

Wow dude, don't lie to yourself.

>>38801475
14.3% According to hydrostatic testing.
But i am sure a 4chan shitposter's opinion, based on grainy low quality picture is much more reliable

>>38801475
>still not posting delt:arm ratio
I appreciate the (you).
Let me see you dodge harder and post more damage control

>>38801496
You're lying to yourself so hard that it hurts, my man. Just stop. It's sad.

>>38801417
me prior to isolating arms... hence i started isolating arms...

>>38801430
ahh, i see so you stop if you think you won't make the next rep instead of trying to grind?

>>38801519
>hydrostatic testing is delusion
Good to know.
>all this dodge
Still haven't posted yourself....

3 more (you)s without a picture confirms you as DYEL

>>38801540
Pretty much

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I think my triceps looks weird too when I flex, and I only do calisthenics.

>>38800264
your doing too many reps of the same set change your sets to somethnig that will work out the other muscles in your arm

>>38801560
>zero delts
>does calisthenics
Color me impressively unsurprised

>>38801215

>he's benching 2 pl8

uhhhh shitposters btfo?

>>38801577
Benching 2pl8 cured him of his weakness.

Antishitposters BTFO

>>38801577
holding =/= benching
he's clearly just supporting it on his bone structure
learn to biomechanics pls

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>>38801576

>>38801560
Fat DYEL

>>38801605

then how did he unrack it?

>>38801607
Astoundingly dyel-tier

>>38801612
touché... I suppose the big dude must have spotted him over there and then left him stuck

>>38801617
True that, I said calisthenics. I'm working on losing fat.

>>38800748
You are probably right in terms of proportions but normal people don't really care if they see you have nice arms in a t-shirt. Also it doesn't take too long to throw in some curls and tricep extensions after a work out twice a week. Maybe 20 mins a week


I like how you prefaced your point. So many people will attack you for putting up a pic on this shithole and never put up there own

>>38801605
>biomechanics
Wouldnt that be....


...arthrokinematics?
*ba-dum tshh*

>>38800748
i take it you've never met a black dude? they always have thick meaty delts and tiny arms...
I have a huge back, shit delts and HAD no arms, so I started to isolate arms. Looks better than shit arms, shit delts and huge back

>>38801314
Sounds like a month of nofap is in order for you bro

>>38801645
>arthrokinematics
hahaha nice! did you google the term or general knowledge? if GK I'm pretty impressed

>>38801640
>it is so easy and takes such little time to fuck up your proportions and make your arms unaesthetic as fuck, so why not?
>people don't aren't actively conscious of which proportions are aesthetics, therefore proportions don't real, and you shouldn't focus on some muscles over others to attain an aesthetic physique
Eh... Clearly i feel differently

>>38801658
I have met tons of black guys, they DO tend to have nice delts.

Never ever in my life have i seen proportionally underdeveloped arms.

Post pics of when you supposedly had a back without bicep, or delts without tricep
>inb4 a picture with gloriously aesthetic delt:arm ratio, or no picture at all because you are lying

>>38801677
GK.
Learned it when getting my NASM CPT

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>>38801417
I win. Do your curls boys

>>38801719
>implying isley has an unaesthetic delt:arm ratio
Not sure if memeing or not..

>>38801719
Compare this pic
>>38801189
To that one.

Which is more aesthetic.

Hell, isley's delt:arm ratio is bigger arms than kinobody's
>>38801239

>>38800421
You have literally no definition at all. 3 percent muscle with all 3 of that being your tricep.

Keep working out and don't be freaked out when muscle starts growing from oblivion on parts of your body

>>38801640
>>38801681
Whoops. I take that back. Didn't realise how much of a arrogant skinny fat fag you were until I read more of your shit. Why are you giving advice when you Have only been lifting 4 months? Can't you accept that maybe people with nor experience know more than you?

People see and notice arms the most and they are most people's priority for that reason. Go jack off to frank and if you want a perfect ratio, for natties delts will always be smaller relatively

Go lift another 6 months before posting again. And stop wasting everyone's time

>>38801715
I guess PTs know something then eh ;)

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>>38801708
look at the babby arms vs back

>>38801766
>Some people WANT unaesthetic physiques, kid

You were close. Lifting for 6 months.

And i still look better than you :^)

>>38801804
you're still not getting it.. some people need to isolate their arms to get them to grow in proportion to the rest of their bodies. This is a thing. I won't waste any more energy replying to you.

>>38801794
>DYEL arms
>DYEL back
What is the issue here?

>>38801822
Which is why with an internet library of billions of pictures of male physiques, not one exist where arms are proportionally underdeveloped?

Seems legit

>>38801261
Your head is more than half the size of your body. Terrible ratio

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>>38801834
don't be facetious
also here, look at pec vs arm

>>38801681
But growing arms isn't easy at all. It's actually really fucking hard

>I don't want to get too big: the post

>>38801934
Aesthetic as FUARK

>>38801934
Not that guy but his arms are well developed

>>38801906
kek.
>head 3 times as long as it is wide.
imagine this skinny fat fucking manlet refreshing someone else's thread over and over again waiting for new posts to say the same shit again

>m-muh ratio
>wouldn't want my fatceps pressed against my body to get too big!

>>38801994
Mad because I look better than you after 6 months liftan

>>38801982
a-aesthetico?

>>38802016
Not him but I prefer my body when I was 2 months in than yours. And I still look terrible 5 months later. You have nothing to brag about.

Humble yourself

>>38801989
yeah but not in proportion to the rest of his body, which was my point the whole time

>>38802016
the only people you look better than after 6 months is obese people. Go take a normal frontal photo and post it here so we can laugh

might want to censor that head of yours too if you are talking about ratios

>>38801182
Is there any real science behind what you're saying or what

Wouldn't that just burn calories unnecessarily and result in less mass gained

>>38802035
>doesn't post his own DYEL physique

>>38802047
>>38802044
His are exactly proportional to his delts and pecs

>>38802088
most people that look like you are ashamed to show there bodies on here. Its just you are in such an autistic rage to realise that

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>>38800748
>So let me clarify
>-I am not bragging about my size
>-I am not saying "look at me, i am so jacked"
>-I understand i am pretty DYEL.

>>38802123
your face is pretty fucked m8

>>38802105
I gave a disclaimer i am dyel

I am 100000% confident you are more DYEL than i am, even if you have lifted more than 6 months

>>38802123
oh I remember you. You were that guy that used to post this pic to every point you made as though it proved something. Were you also the 31 year old guy posting last night about having 'intermediate' strength standards?

also using your favorite pic with nice lighting from half a year ago =/= taking a normal frontal photo now

>>38802135
Already have two bf so idgaf.

Insecurities are infinitely less attractive than my ugly face

>>38802146
31?
Bitch i am 25

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>>38802146
>>38802146
This pic is all of 4 seconds old

>>38802157
k bro. Go take a pic in normal and come back to us so we can see if its worth listening to you rather than all the 1000s of routines out there made by experts that include arm work

>>38802183
Name a novice routine written by an expert that has arm isolations.

Only jason blaha gives such retarded advice

>>38802099
meh, I disagree

>>38802178
hahahahahhahaa that is so bad.
>no delts
>no arms
>no chest
>no traps
>ugly face
>manlet
>bloated core that still looks shit even with leaning back in that lighting.
I wish you could see yourself with someone else's eyes kek this is just embarrassing

>>38800464
Yup.

>>38802204
See
>>38801760

>>38802200
starting strength routines = all routines = never do arm isolations
God you're turgid both in mind and body

>>38802225
Sl doesnt have arms
Gslp doesnt have arms (except the shit-tier /fit/ version)
Reg parks doesnt have arms
Bill start doesnt have arms
Iirc neither does allpro

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>>38800748
>I hesitate to post my pic, as people think i am trying to show off or some shit.

>>38802214
All of that is 100% true.

I said from post #1 that i am dyel.

I still look infinitely better than you :^)

I never said "my arms are so jacked"
I said "my delts are so tiny"

>>38802253
>implying that isnt why people are calling me dyel when i already admitted i was dyel

>>38802245
SL is a rip off of SS is a rip off of Bill Starr
These are all ABSOLUTE BEGINNER (inb4 Bowie) routines. If you want proportional arms you need to start isolating them, pull ups will not get you hoooj biceps, bench will not get you hooooj triceps
http://oldschooltrainer.com/bill-starrs-5-x-5-training/
at the intermediate level most of these have curls / tricep work thrown in

>>38802225
fuark mirin turgid wordplay

>>38802200
>Name a novice routine written by an expert that has arm isolations.
>novice routine
>>38802302
Op is not intermediate
Come back when you sharpen your reading comprehension and learn what a non-sequitur is

>>38802178
hmmmmm
>minimal experience in lifting
>looks like shit
>probably weak too
>still gives advice on lifting.
Hmmmm. Its really making me think. I wonder if its an advantage having a repping or an upboat system on a fitness board to weed out this kinda shit. hmmmmmm

>>38802324
>still looks better than ypu
>still outlifts you
>you won't post physique because you are even worse
Wew lad.

My arms are too big for my dyel everything else and i dont train arms.

I have never seen anyone with a good delt:arm ratio that recommends training arms before the advanced level

Prove me wrong and post yours
>implying you even lift

>>38802322
>Come back when you sharpen your reading comprehension and learn what a non-sequitur is

read your orignial post >>38800748
you don't bring up 'beginners' once. You are referring to alll natty lifters. Now you are trying to move the goal posts and pretend you are talking about beginners/OP exclusively.

I mean i guess you have to be in damage control mode the way this thread as gone but still

>>38802348
I dont mention beginners because that was directed at OP, who it is PAINFULLY OBVIOUS is a novice

Even training them as an intermediate is a mistake, imo

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>>38802347
Fine here I am. Faggy lighting but you used it too. 6'0 174
I am very proportional (except maybe legs)

>>38802368
Kek, you look like a huge faggot with that deep V neck tan

>>38802420
>that's the worst thing you could find

kek really running low on comebacks

>>38802347
Find me a single intermediate routine for hypertrophy without direct arm work and I can show you a 1000 that do.

>th-there all wrong because I think so after lifting 6 months
K there buddy

>>38800264
Maybe your workout of dips 5x20 has something to do with it

>>38800748
>>38801261
>>38802123
>>38802178
how can people that look like this give such confident fitness advice?
I really don't understand what goes through their mind. Its like being autistically unaware

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>>38802123

>>38801308

"My nipples look like milk duds!"

>>38800438
>1 month
> thinks he's gaining

>>38802368
where's your toilet seat and cover?

>>38804392
its called a bidet but i've never used it

>>38803966
kek who the fuck makes these

>>38802368
>my height
>my weight
>my build (pretty much, though i might have more legs/less arm)
what lifts?

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>>38804436
are you the guy I was speaking to?
tested maxes a 2 weeks ago

OHP: 60 kg
Bench: 106
Squat: 115
DL: 175
Chins: 35 added for 5

>>38804491
No that was my first post here.

OHP - 66kg
Bench - 84 kg (kill me)
Squat - 151kg
Deadlift - 170kg

I don't have a belt for weighed chins up 4x12 is easy with 2 min rests, so I've stopped doing them.

>>38804678
Why do you think bench is so low?
Is that a high bar or low bar squat
Pics?

>>38804491
What the fuck? Your lifts are shit, why do you look good?

>>38806371
BF is the reason

>>38800421
Google "starting nips" it's a solid program and I think it could help

>>38806371
did a high volume PPL for most of my time lifting. Lots of hypertrophy work. Going back I would do a strength program for 6 months first though.

Genetics and bodyfat will also determine how good you look. Plus the angle, pose and lighting of the photo

>>38806371
his lifts are not shit, but perfectly fine, maybe stop stuffing your face with cheeseburgers all the time and bragging about your 4 plate squat that nobody gives a shit about fatty.

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>>38800421
Chloe, is that you

>>38804713
It has to be my form I assume, and high bar squat. http://imgur.com/a/aXWss

>>38804678
are u me?

>>38800264
that fucking midget nipple

>>38801189
this picture is grotesquely photoshopped

>>38807324
nice man looking good. I hope to have that squat in 6 months or so