Was original Jack3d and Mesomorph really that good? People describe

>>38577849
>UNIVERSITY STUDIED
wew, lad

>>38577849
It was like speed because it had some in it

>>38577849
1,3 DMAA

I just ordered Mesomorph.

can't wait.

>>38577849
amphetamine ,
I myself mixed with xtc on some raves. feeling 11/10

>>38577849
Bro, with one scoop you felt like walking on water, you could literally do entire weeks split in one day, it was fucking insane

>>38578798
I still have about 100 grams in freezer, waiting for the rainy days...
1,3dmaa <3

>>38577849
It was amphetamine.
And no, only the names are back.
DMAA and AMP are still banned in most of the civilised world

>>38578823
Bro, i think that shits gonna cake up and when it does, I wouldn't take it if I ware you, personally had really bad experience with that

>>38578853
>civilised world
More like Gains goblins world

>>38578876
can't get caked in freezer. Its is there for months. It cakes in warm.

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QUESTION

Is 1,3dmaa familiar to Ritalin? Ritalin is methylfenidate (amphetamine) and I take it now and then before workout I can go for hours

Is it comparable?

>>38577849
it was amazing. i remember when i first started going to gym on a weekend, i'd take three scoops of jack3d. this coincided with when i started doing hard drugs. the pills and coke were like jack3d only stronger

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when I first started lifting I took it, and because it was legal i just assumed it was safe

would regularly take twice the recommended dose, then go into the gym and hit personal bests with horrendous form

probably the reason my shoulders are fucked

>>38577849
Jack3d was the best thing I ever took. No other pre workout works as good. Best pumps i ever got too. Wish they bring the original back

>>38578966
forgot to mention, would get back from the gym and sometimes LITERALLY spend 6 hours looking at porn and fapping

>>38578925
Ritalin is totally different than amphetamine dumbass, the only similarity is they are both stimulants.

would DMAA help me get motivated to lift when am depressed as fuck?

>>38579489
Are u ok m8 ? Ritalin is literally an amphetamine

>>38578987
I remember those hours long fap sessions too. Its one of the reason i stopped taking preworkout.

Are they really selling it back in USA?

>>38578764
desu it doesn't live up to the hype.

>>38579702
>methylphenidate is amphetamine
wat

Can you get 1,3 DMAA online anymore? If I can get shit like DNP online then I feel like this shouldn't be that hard. Everything I've heard is that jacked doesn't have DMAA anymore so it's just misusing the label to take advantage of the old fame, but I couldn't find any proof one way or another. The places that sell the product intentionally obfuscate the matter so I can't tell what the fuck they are selling.

I've tried numerous pre-workouts and don't get that 'feeling' of invincibility or whatever. In fact, I don't notice a god damn thing.

Is this shit that good?

>>38580022
Yeah you can get the raw powder but you have you take it in microdoses which is extremely hard to measure out

>>38580068
Fuck, I'm surprised somebody hasn't taken to capping or cutting it to the proper dose for us. I don't want to OD on that shit.

>>38577849

no, they weren't all that. I remember I had to do like 3 scoops of jack3d to feel it. I did have one that got my heart racing, muscle marinade, but it tasted shit. this was all 2010-2012

>>38577849
First time I took OG Jack3d, it was at around 3pm and with the recommended dosage. Couldn't go to sleep until 3am. There will probably never be anything better

>>38580089
It's sad anon

There's a preworkout called Jack'd Up that says it contains 1,3 DMAA.

Anybody have any experience with it? I assume it's a Jack3d rip off, but if it works I may try it.

>>38580168
Kanker marktplaatsp

>>38580180
haha yeah

>>38580212
Bro niet kopen man neem gewoon koppen espresso pre-workout die DMAA verkankert je brein chemistrie en geeft hoge bloeddruk

>>38580234
I can't imagine that DMAA is that bad for you. I mean I haven't researched it at all so I could be wrong, but as much as I love coffee I would be a fan of something legal that's stronger than caffeine.

Good lookin' out though.

>>38578987
>would get back from the gym and sometimes LITERALLY spend 6 hours looking at porn and fapping

i do this without DMAA.

>>38580234
Andere anon mongool hier, ik zag net een Jack3d pre workout, er staat niks over dmaa, is dit veilig? Body-supplies dot nl. Maar het bedrijf heet usp labs.

>>38579702
>Are u ok m8 ? Ritalin is literally an amphetamine

fact.

>>38580351
Ja man die jack3d van bodyfit en andere NL w3bsites zijn de "nieuwe" versies en zijn gewoon legit maar dan zonder dmaa erin

Eigenlijk gewoon caffeinepoeder en suiker

>>38580392
Ik ben ^^^^ je kan het proberen gaf hele goed pomp en energie

Maar na een tijdje kreeg ik dikke puisten op mn rug ervan , ik had die jack3d zonder dmaa fruitpunch smaak

Ben allang gestopt neem al 2 jaar kop koffie voor trainen werkt ook goed

>>38580392
Ok thanks, weet ik in ieder geval dat ik die niet moet hebben. Ik haal wel gewoon een goedkoop potje bij de plaatselijke sportschool.

Could you guys take your black speech to /int/ or wherever?

>>38580418
Ja, een maat van me heeft nu z'n hele rug en schouders vol met puisten.. Hij gebruikt ook een pre workout met fruitpunch smaak.

>>38580437
No, go fuck yourself.

>>38580441
Dat is klote man, ik merkte ZEKER dat het kwam van die jack3d fruitpunch.. Mn rug was altijd schoon en moment dat ik aan die shit begon kwam het...

Blijkbaar zit er iets in wat je lichaam niet accepteert .. Waarom stopt je maat niet? Ik gaf mn potje half-vol weg aan een vriend lol fuck die shit

>>38580458
ok, brb.

>>38580487
Omdat hij waar voor zijn geld wilt lol. Maar nee, hoelang train je al?

>>38580516
Sinds 2012.. 4 jaar nu. Jij? Waar woon je

>>38580546
Sinds 2014, dorpje vlakbij Alkmaar. Heb je tips over test gebruik?

>>38580562
Hoe kom je erbij dat ik test gebruik
Maar serieus ik wil test-deca cyclen ben nu nog natty

Vind je niet dat je nog nieuw bent voor test? 2 jaar is niks nog man

Anyways test is 250 tot 500mg in de week voor 12 weken met 4 weken nakuur nolvadex

>not just taking Adderall before you lift

Do you want to make it bros?

>>38580602
Haha omdat ik verwacht dat iedereen na een aantal jaar meer wilt. Ik ben zelf nu ook veel aangekomen qua spier in die 2 jaar met een heel zwaar en strict dieet. 1.88m, 96 kg, 12%. Ik werd aangesproken door een test gebruiker die vroeg of ik interesse had.

>>38580640
Ik zoek een legit test source man al die dealers hebben shitty genesis UGL

Heb jij een pharma source?

>>38580168
Yes sir used 3 tubs before moving on. Check out gen one old jack as well. Good luck senpai.

>>38580659
Nee, heb ik niet. Maar de dealer die ik ken is populair onder de bodybuilders in onze sportschool. Dus ik verwacht wel wat goed spul.

>>38578987
Yeah I did this after partying on Amphetamin back then
It was the shit

>>38580632
I can't eat on Adderall

>>38580708
Kom in de neder draad heb er net een ge opend

>>38580632
>can't get adderall legally

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>>38580458
I WISH I COULD

>>38577849
>People describe it like it was like amphetamine.
I don't know about Jack3d but the reason Craze was banned in EU was that they found what was basically a "designer drug" version of amphetamine in it. It was speed with a small little twist so it technically wasn't speed until that little twist got flagged and banned.

>>38581109
>Cohen said researchers informed the FDA in May about finding the new chemical compound in Craze. The team found the compound — N,alpha-diethylphenylethylamine — has a structure similar to methamphetamine, a powerful, highly addictive, illegal stimulant drug.
>the compound found in Craze was the same as that found in a crystalline powder seized by narcotics agents in December 2011 as a suspected illicit designer drug. In that case the powder was found in an unclaimed lost package shipped from Vietnam to South Korea, according to an earlier journal article published by the team in late 2012. "It appeared that the recipient of this article sought to abuse this chemical in the same way as amphetamines. There is a possibility that this chemical will be widely abused for recreational use in the near future,"
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/10/14/tests-of-supplements-craze-and-detonate-find-methamphetamine-like-compound/2968041/

that shit worked tho

>>38581210
No way. So should i stop using preworkouts altogether? I didn't know they had meth-like compounds

>>38581902
well I mean it was banned in 2012 and the craze v2 they sell now isn't nearly as effective so idk probably not

Dmaa is the shit
Just took it with mushrooms at a rave last night
Felt like molly, pretty tight /10

>>38580022
I bought DMAA 2 years ago from nutrivitashop( ) com. I would advise to buy a micro scale, this shit is intense. Im an Amerifat tho, not sure if they ship internationally.

>>38582036
Fucking degenerate

>>38582135
>He is on 4chan
>Calling other people degenerate for consuming substances.

Thanks for the laugh.

>>38582142
not him but I fap to trannies and call people who go outside on fridays degenerates. it's all relative

>>38580089

Ephedrine caffine dmaa stackers are pretty popular where I am

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>>38577849
just get pic related
>1,3 DMAA
How does nobody mention this yet?
>go to aps nutrition . com and buy it
youre welcome

Personally i reccomend fluoroamphetamines 4FA/2FA or a-pvp for my preworkouts. If you can manage to find dnp and the like you shouldnt have trouble finding these compounds. Invest in a milligram scale though.

>>38582278
heres the link , the y got a buy one get one 50% off right now
https://www.a1supplements.com/aps-nutrition-mesomorph

>>38578853
Why not just take aloe dose adderral?

>>38578853
>>38578853

I live in USA and the local mom and pop store sells 1,3 DMAA stuff for cheap

>>38579702
Amphetamines- Releasing Agents, like amphetamine, meth, 2-fma, MDMA etc.

Methylphenidate- Reuptake inhibitiors like Ritalin, cocaine, mdpv, a-pvp etc.

Completely different pharmacology(reuptake inhibitors make me depressed and jittery where releasing agents like adderall or meth dont have the side effects or crash), and thus different affects. What they share in common are they are both dopaminergic stimulants. That's about it.

Google releasing agents, and re-uptake inhibitors to get a feel for how they are different.

>>38582318
"Note: Manufacturers continually change product specifications. While we try our best to keep product descriptions up to date, they do not necessarily reflect the latest information available from the manufacturer. We are not responsible for incorrect or outdated product descriptions and/or images."
Under a photo of their 'version 2' This means they already updated their ingredients, but will continues selling it under the assumption that you are getting the old one. not a scam, but shady

>>38582304
I remember the good days of mdpv and a-pvp I brought a gram to high school giving lines out to everyone for free one time I jacked off till my dick skin peeled off from the friction and bled.

>>38581210
experienced jack3d and craze, feels good man

also dont know if anyone can remember but the purple craze was significantly stronger than the others, the ingredients were supposedly exactly the same, ds (was that the name of the producers of the product?) publicly said it was nonsense and that all flavors had the same effect

experienced it myself, purple was the first one i tried, when it ran out i tried a different flavor and it fucking sucked

You do know plenty of pre workouts right now have dmaa in it right? God if rage, the Blackstone labs dust, mesomorph, the new super pump has a ridiculous amount in it too

>>38582668
Get it off of eBay, that's where I got the dmaa version.

>>38578853
Dmaa is still legal to buy bulk in the US. Supp companies just can't use it in their propietary blends anymore because of health concerns. I bought 10 grams from some site a few weeks ago. Like super caffeine. No euphoria though so you can't get high. Hence why it's legal.

>>38579688
absolutely

you'd have an epic workout, come home and tidy your house

you might forget to eat though

>>38582744
yes except I never tried other than purple because I heard the rumors

>>38582304
All forms of pvp give people ridiculous high levels of vasoconstriction I have seen people's fingers starting to "die" like white thick ass callouses and weird shit in their finger tips I would advise against pvp

>>38582786
Yet plenty of companies still use it...

>>38582627
Ah

So coke basicly KEEPS the water in the bottle

And AMPHETAMINES basicly ADD water to the bottle

Can I see it this way?

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>>38578987
same here

>>38580899
Bitch

>>38582856

Coke keeps the water in the bottle while more water starts surrounding it too so when the bottle starts leaking more water is ready to come in.

>>38582856
Yea that's how I think of it

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>2009
>be using picrelated
>Jack3D come out
>mfw Jack3D was absolute garbage compared to picrelated. I gave it to a friend

>>38582278
https://www.a1supplements.com/aps-nutrition-mesomorph
This the stuff?

>>38577849
Take ephedrine an hour before you take preworkout

Feel like a fucking machine

>>38578876
Heh, I threw away half of tube of original Craze, because it got bad after few months. Didn't keep it in a fridge tho.

Speaking of Pres anyone try Rich Paninis 5150

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Saw this mentioned, worth getting or no?

https://www.a1supplements.com/hi-tech-pharmaceuticals-jack-d-up

>>38583635
a dying fucking machine

>>38583811
Mesomorph, god of rage and dust extreme by black stone labs all have dmaa, and are all better then jacked up

Mesomorph was my first preworkout. Not that great desu. U get better results having full servings of beta alanine, creatine, caffine, and whatever else u want than having ≤half doses in one shake.
>But muh flavour
I would recommend gains over taste

>>38584166
did u have the dmaa one or the one without it?

>>38577849
>. Apparently those preworkouts are back


sauce? DMAA is illegal

>>38584287
Dmaa is not illegal. Who told you this? It's legal to sell/buy but you cannot legally market it as a supplement. It was was a consumer protection kind of thing. You can buy Dmaa from nutrivita shop and a ton of other online stores that are based here in the US. Nutrivita shop even includes a 10mg micro scoop.

I remember my dad bought some of that in probably 2009-10. I had some at 3pm, immediately took a shit and felt queasy. After an hour I worked out like never before. I tried to fall asleep at 11pm that night and I sat in bed wide awake until 6 am.

Never again.

>>38584360

Nutra shop apparently just lost their dmaa supplier. I got the 50g until 2019 at least.

If I were going to buy DMAA from somewhere like Nutrivita, is there any reason I couldn't just dump X amount into a container of regular preworkout and shake the shit out of it to get everything mixed together? Any recommendations on what X would look like assuming it's a 195g container?

>>38584287
here

https://blackstonelabs.com/products/dust-extreme

http://www.extremepowernutrition.com/products/centurion-labz-god-of-rage

http://m.ebay.com/itm/APS-Nutrition-MESOMORPH-Original-PRE-WORKOUT-7-Flavors-ROCKET-POP-TUTTI-FRUTTI-/281996136906?nav=SEARCH


Is this old stock with dmaa? Im about to buy one

>>38582668
Lokk this up , it's what it is called now to get passed regulations
>geranaburn 1,3 dimethylamylamine HCL
>>38584559
Yes all mesomorph have it , I've been taking it for about 6 months now , gets me fucking bouncing off the walls , try it you will love it , go half scoop first time because it messes with your head the first time but after that its cash

I hate adderall, ritalin, meth, cocaine, caffeine they make me depressed and anxious but is dmaa worth trying for preworkout or is it just another stimulant?

>>38584492
Common sense seems like you'd end up woth hot spots and not so even distribution, but i dont see hiw they do it to get it right

>>38583248
link where to buy?

>>38585639
It got pulled off the market and replaced by a shitty version.

>needing a preworkout to work out

Wanna know how I know none of you are going to make it?

>>38585661
so roids then?

dunno about jack3d, but mesomorph is meh. then again, my stim tolerance is really high. i usually take 1 and a half scoops of meso + 200mg caffeine powder. my heart starts beating a bit faster, and it lasts about 30 minutes. that's about it. sometimes it seems to work better, but it's kind of random and rare.

Just did caff anhydrous, 1,3 ,and some H for pwo just to see what happens oh lawdy jesus

In Australia a guy took seven times the recommended dose and went for a run and guess what, he died. So they banned it.
Jack3d gave you a feeling that you had to move, you just needed to do something with all that energy so what better way than to lift.

University studied probably means they gave samples to 100 umass kids and said "go fucking nutz bro"

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>>38584556
>A new hope has arisen for all of you stimulant junkies. A group of freedom fighters has pushed back against the seemingly inexorable tide of wussification in fitness supplements. Lead by Blackstone Labs, these liberators of ferocity have taken back what is rightfully theirs in the galaxy of hardcore substances from our secret base in Boca Raton. Behold: Dust Extreme cometh!

>Don’t get us wrong, Dust still sits upon the iron throne of pre-workout formulas, that much can not be denied, but,a sizeable contingent of people seeking the truly profane still exists. We haven’t forgotten about you and would like to extend an olive branch of sorts. We offer you Dust Extreme, our new, balls-to-the-wall, over-the-top, forbidden formula.

>The bulls are out of the pen and running wild. 1,3 Dimethylamylamine is back with a vengeance. Once ruled out as being too hot for the market, 1,3 Dimethylamylamine is now available for human consumption once again. If you thought the compounds in Dust were strong, 1,3 Dimethylamylamine will make you think you’ve made a pact with the dark lords of the underworld for unlimited power.

Sounds like I need to give my money to a necromancer and get dusted.

>>38580632
I'm on Vyvanse, that and a cup of joe fucking gets me going. Downside is I sweat like crazy.

>>38586255

how edgy. DMAA isn't hard to find. it also sucks because tolerance builds fast AF.

>>38586255

Florida has the obscure powder game locked down.

>>38586477

Checked. You could keep the stuff on hand and only use it when you're feeling particularly lethargic but you've got to be disciplined when it comes to drugs.

>>38586189
>then they moved to south park

>>38586571
This, dmaa and true meth have annoying tolerance hikes. To the point where it's unenjoyable to engage. I think most stims can put you in some level of psychosis. I did on meth and I notice the pull now doing any other kind of stimout if I meet anyone on aderall

>>38580053
I also dont really feel anything out of the ordinary but I definitely feel stronger when lifting

>>38582142
I take a hand full of 4chans every weekend bro.

>>38583811
Well do you wanna get Jack'd Up? There is your answer bud.

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>tfw never got to try it
>because some stupid fucking bitch decided to take it and run a marathon
>gets heart attack
>gets banned

woman, they always fucking ruin everything

>theres probabaly a huge batch of original jack3d on some warehouse
>yfw you will never have it