Anyone else feel that deadlifts are massively overrated

No.

>>38512128

Deadlifts are massively overrated period. If you ain't DLing for a meet, don't bother.

>feel

>>38512128
its the "drink whiskey from a dirt glass and your dick will get bigger along with your beard" equivalent of bodybuilding
and pullovers,fuck those

>>38512147
Kek, good joke. Some dyel noob might not understand the sarcasm, though.

ITT people don't know bout deficit dead lifts. It's all about the rom bros. Squats ain't shit if you're only going to parallel so why do the same for deads

>>38512197
>pullovers
Fucking useless. They're supposed to be a chest and lat exercise but the only place I feel them is my triceps and serratus.

if you don't deadlift you are a pussy

>>38514713

See this circle jerk surround deadlifts is fucking ridiculous.

It is just an exercise. You don't have to do it unless you are a powerlifter.

I love deadlifting.
They have built my neck and traps better than anything else.

Sure they aren't necessary if your goals are purely hypertrophy and aesthetics.

Buttfuck you I enjoy them and they give me something to look forward to regarding gym work. No other exercise do I enjoy as much.

>>38514757
Most dudes on this forum are DYEL faggots who don't even have arms past 17 inches.

I fell into the deadlift meme too for a while but after actually thinking for myself I started realizing that they aren't an end all be all exercise.

However, if your main goal is to get stronger than deadlifts are a very good exercise.

If your main goal is to get aesthetic you don't need deadlifts.

The problem is that most guys have never talked to pros so they don't know the fact that they only deadlift and go heavy for the camera.

Ronnie Coleman is an example of this, everyone talks about his 800 lb deadlift but he himself admits that he doesn't always go that heavy and it was only for the camera.

>>38512665
You're doing them wrong or confusing it when it's really your lower lats. Will say that unless you squeeze your ass off you won't ever feel it in your chest that shits retarded

>>38514713
I dont and I can probably deadlift more than you. Hard to feel like a pussy when I don't care about it

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>>38512147
zoo wee mama

>>38512128
I do DL for strength and enjoyment. For hypertrophy: back: pendlay rows, shrugs, chinups; legs: squats.

>>38512627
It's about the fucking back angle not about how deep your hips are you stupid fuck. Its a completely different movement.
Is /fit/ this retarded?

>>38514757
Yeah but they make me feel strong and they're fun

I train primarily for strength, but if your goals are hypertrophy/aesthetics, I personally feel that conventional deadlifts have no purpose in your traininh program. Perhaps Romanian deadlifts, but not normal ones.

>>38514789
Bodybuilders look retarded imo.
Really strong deadlifters always have this brutish, strong af look to them which looks sick af. I'd much rather look like jesse norris than ronnie coleman desu.
everybody has a different definition of aesthetics though.

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>>38512128
Yeah, I have always done Romanian deadlift instead.
Makes my hamstrings fucking juicy, also it have gave me very nice back.
Or could be also that I like to row heavy, dunno.

>>38512128

I train for aesthetics and I deadlift.

Not as strong as the powerlifters here but definitely the big compound lifts make you look better more than tonnes of isolation.

>>38515152

I train for aesthetics and I totally agree with this, Coleman looks awful and his training methods are not applicable to /fit/ given how blatantly he is on drugs.

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>>38515152
>jesse norris
>ronnie coleman
>aesthetic

Pick neither.

Deadlifts are just massively overrated in general. Useless meme lift.

>Make you weak
>Dangerous
>Useless for hypertrophy
>Looks stupid
>Stupid meme lift
>Done by fedoras

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>>38515189
I literally stated that everybody thinks dofferent bodies are aesthetic lmao.
He looks pretty good imo.

>>38512128
Maybe, but if you lift and cant do 4plates you are basically a subhuman

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>>38515187
pic related - Ronnie Coleman

Its great for hypertrophy. I gained 30 lbs of muscle doing nothing but DL. Only problem is it isn't A E S T H E T I C at all and I look DYEL with a short on

>>38515287
Doesn't look good to me and most people.
Whatever floats your boat though,m8.

>>38514789
>If your main goal is to get aesthetic you don't need deadlifts.
Wrong faggot. There are two ways to achieve what you retards circle jerk over all the time called aesthetics: copious amounts of gear and low bodyfat combined with lifting or, as a natty, low body fat and lifting as heavy as possible. Doing 12 reps with a dumbbell won't get you shit.

>>38515329
You do realize that the guy you are talking to is probably twice as big as you, right?

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deadlift the best lift
uses more muscles than most any other exercises
does nearly your entire lower half
expends more energy = more weight loss
activates more muscles = more muscle gain
easy to do, mostly legs and lower back
there is literally no excuse not to do them, they're great and you should do them.
hell, i'll come around to your house and help you do them. they are the bomb dope. awesomeness
approved by mother mary
ave maria

>>38514789
I just saw your name and lol'd
peace bro x

>>38515337
If he's who I think he looks like Senator Sanders. Fuck idea that dead lifts as a heavy exercises aren't better for looking good as a natty than doing 4-5 different isolation with at best half the weight. I guess unless you want to be one of those weird faggots with a half decent v taper and weird proportions everywhere else.

''''Aesthetics''''' as a natty is a fucking joke and it's far more irrelevant how you train on gear as long as you're training.

>>38515104
Yeah nah your reading comprehension needs to be above grade school level for my posts bruv.

>>38515104
R u dum?

>>38515337
Post body then big boy ;)

>>38516184
I'm not him but he is a well known trip who posts in cbt's you retard.

>tfw shit grip strength
can't even deadlift 90kg
please tell me how to improve grip strength
I could use wraps but I don't want to become dependent on them while lifting such babby weight

>>38514789
It was a squat but your post is still relevant

>>38512627

>tfw short arms long torso

I deficit pull every time I pull conventional from the floor desu

>>38514789

>Tripfag
>Multiple spelling errors
>Factual errors

0/10

>>38516262
>Dead hangs
>on your last rep of your set on the dl, hold the bar for as long as you can at the top
>barbell rows
>heavy barbell shrugs
Just hold a bar more often breh, my grip has gone from double overhand 80x5 to 120x5 in the past few months.

>>38516262
hold the bar in your fingers, not your palm

>>38512583
.t dyel

at my gym you can easily notice that the only guys who deadlift regularily look like shit
and the big and strong guys deadlift only once in a while just for fun and to test their strength which they built mostly by just training legs and back seperately. many of them deadlift 200kg+ without doing it more often than once a month (I know that for a fact because it's a small gym and we're all bros)
I'd say it's definitely a meme lift but that's just my experience

>>38516262
Keep deadlifting

What are the best exercises for aesthetics then?

>>38512128
Only thing that consistently gives me a good hams workout.

>>38512128
>body builder fag calling deadlifts overrated
You guys are a joke.

>>38515342
Where you live? I need help.

>>38517010
>I read SS, I'm an elite powerlifter now and know everything about hypertrophy also

>>38516262
I hang from the bar after my last set of pull ups or chin ups and also only increase my dl by 5lb a week. You could also load up the bar with 70 to 80% of your dl weight and do static holds. I know you don't do power cleans anyway so Monday and Friday would be open. I just can'take be assed to load up the weight just to hold it haha

Unlike deadlifts, RDLs aren't a meme, and they actually make you look good

As someone who built up to a 600lb deadlift, they are not really necessary for aesthetics, and wouldn't recommend to everyone. If you're a plain powerlifter and going into meets, go ahead. But if simply looking for casual aesthetics, theres really no point. As you'll need more time to recover from your sessions, increase probability of getting injured, and stunt the progress of the rest of your workout that day.

Deadlifts builing your ENTIRE body is a meme.

But they actually do A LOT of work for your traps, hamstrings, glutes and quads, for sure. At least for me personally they have.

>>38512147
/thread

I'd rather do RDLs.

>>38517222
>He thinks hypertrophy is real for anyone except people cycling
>He tries to body build as a natty
Yeah, you and every dad bod mother fucker at the average gym will surely become part of the Greek Pantheon if you continue to do 12 reps and be dedicated bro, no lie.

>>38512128
>This thread again
When will dyels leave?

>>38512128
no

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>>38520493
keep goin bro someday you'll do 400lb diddly and be a little girl too

>>38521149
I already max out at 507lb you dyel cunt

>>38521188
>100lb more than a little girl
lol

>>38521192
>being this high
man you gotta get sober

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>>38521208
it's cool man someday you'll grow up to be as big and strong as this 130lb champion diddlying 600lbs

then maybe when you're physically smaller than most girls you will be the one true non dyel, because deadlifts...

deadlifts is the only lift you need tho

>>38521287
>38521287
that guy is like 5'2" and ripped as fuck for his height. Quit being a jelly dyel faggot. Deadlifts are GOAT.

>>38512128
SPIT THAT REDPILL OUT

>>38521328
just sayan he's tiny and can outlift most of you so when if ever you reach his potential, it doesn't mean you're gonna look any less dyel, breh

>>38521287
whoa we big girls now

>>38515312
Why are you even here if you want to look like a twink?

>>38521364
newsflash, i am closing in on lmao6plate and my legs nor my back look dyel. keep trying though

>>38521192
How much do you deadlift?

>>38521364
And when you finally surpass your 1pl8 bench for 12 reps, you're not going to look any less dyel, breh.

>>38521508
>6 pl8
>everything looks small
You don't all the plates on both sides m8

>>38512128
Absolutely not.

>>38512128
no

>>38521508
fat, roids or delusional which is it

Ok seriously, if the deadlift is a bad exercise for aesthetics, then what are the alternatives? I'm about to do back/biceps so this thread is a nightmare...

>>38521928
none of the above.. kek

>>38521956
>i'm aesthetically desireable yet i don't post pics
-said by no aesthetic person ever

>>38521969
>posting pictures of yourself on a Taiwanese fuccboi hookup forum.

I don't have to prove shit, don't deadlift if you dont want to, but you wont have developed spinal erectors glutes or hamstrings as a result.

>>38512147
>i can't even pull 1.5 times my bodyweight

hahah this board is such fucking shit and always has been

>>38522034
brah conventional deads aren't even top 3 for developing any of those

deadlift is a meme lift for insecure people

>>38522161
I dont do only conventional. I switch between sumo, hybrid, RDLs, and deficits/snatch grip deads.

i just test maxes with conventional because it's a good measure of progress.

stay weak

>>38512128
Power cleans are better tbphwy

>>38522197
You don't do any kind of deadlift with considerable weight unless you enjoy getting no gains while your body takes longer than necessary to recover.

>>38522082
i doubt theres anybody that cant pull 1.5 times their weight.

>>38522221
>too weak to deadlift twice a week with adequate recovery.

lmao at your life

>>38522271
yes, that's how actually heavy deadlifting works. elite lifters break the lift down into parts because it's literally a waste of time to deadlift heavy outside of competition.

>>38520265
/thread

>>38522266
I always knew I'd surprise someone someday

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>>38512128
No. You're doing them wrong, that's all.

>>38522587
what the fuck happened to them all?

CNS failure?

>>38522335
>elite lifters
How do you think they got to that point retard? You're like some fucking moron claiming going to the driving range isn't a good place to work on your drives because Tiger Woods doesn't and instead x. You don't train like an elite athlete if you aren't one.

>>38522795
There's no shame in passing out at the gym

>>38522854
Rack pulls and halting deadlifts mainly. The point isn't how the point is it's retarded to begin with unless competing.

>>38522795
They held their breath while using a shit ton of energy. No more energy for brain = pass out

>>38522161
>Deadlift is a meme
>1 of 3 top compoud exercises ever being a meme
Get the fuck out of here dyel

>>38523426
t. ss beginner

>>38514789

Deadlifts are great for back development. And developing your traps. They strengthen your posterior chain as well. You shouldn't neglect doing them. Yeah sure, you can do isolation movements for all of those muscle groups, but why not hit them all at once?

You can build your back better with rack pulls and hammies better with RDLs all with much less risk and better.

Deadlifts are just for competition. They aren't a superior way of building anything but a bigger deadlift.

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>>38516337
it was both but your post is still relevant

>>38512665
>>38512197


Pullovers are an incredible exercise. Found the dyel's in this thread

>>38515287
the lats really do look retarded though like wtf

>>38514789
Stop posting and giving advice you little shit.

>>38512128
no

>>38522161
You must be massive then..and you didn't even have to deadlift! Post pic/timestamp plus stats or shut the fuck up.

>>38521287
Kek what the fuck his legs are like toothpicks

>>38512128
For hypertrophy? Yes
For general health and safety? No.

Car crashes don't cripple you if your spinal erectors are strong enough to take the strain off your spine.

>>38522266
More than half of my gym? You underestimate how weak people are now.

I've had my 13 month old toddler outlift two pudgy high schoolers on rope pushdowns.
I am not exaggerating - a literal toddler, who still treats walking as a novelty, had a stronger back and arms AND had more endurance than two 17-19 year old 'men'.
Those two pudgy bastards struggled to push down three microplates for 6 reps, while my son was playing 'pull the rope down' with two microplates for something like 30-40 reps non stop (and fucking strickt reps too).

>>38524116
>and you didn't even have to deadlift
no i'd just rather do objectively superior lifts since i'm not competing for anything

>>38523730
>Anyone who deadlifts is an ss beginner

Even your dead king said deadlifts were number one you useless faggot.

>>38524291
king at wasting your energy and snapping your back, sure

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>>38524388
Get btfo'd you weak unfit cuck

>>38524390
lol?

>>38524388
>King of wasting your energy
Lol at this unfit faggot

>>38524390
king of DED IN SAUNA

>>38524408
you can hit the same muscle groups harder and recover faster so yeah, it's basically one of if not the stupidest lifts in existence, especially for beginners

>>38524390
He's not wrong. Seriously, the only guys you'll consistently see doing DL's are the guys with actual mass.

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>>38524444
And the little girls....

Deadlifts do a lot of good things for your body and there's really no reason not to do them unless you have physical problems.

Am I the only one who enjoys the feel of deadlifting but not the feel of squatting? Seems the online fitness community feels the opposite.

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>>38514815
I bet you think 2 plate is a good dl.

all I can say about deadlift is this.
1. if you do them correctly they do not cause harm.
2. the feeling after a nice heavy dl is unlike any other feeling in the gym, aside from maybe squats.
3. dl really fills in gaps in strength most people don't train for. how many guys really train their lower back? weak lower back is the real cause of lower back pain.

>>38515152
>I'd rather look like this roider than that roider

>>38516679
All the big guys are on gear, though.

>>38516360
I know that feel. 5'9 and 52" wingspan. How the fuck does conor mcgregor have 70+

>>38524768

Fucking hilarious the way you people believe anyone who is big/aesthetic and doesn't do strength training must be on roids.

>>38524840
Having large defined muscles requires an inordinate amount of testosterone in the bloodstream. That's just how it works.

>>38524840
Because it's the truth, newshit. I've been lifting for over 5 years, I have a 1400 total. I know what I'm talking about.

>>38524609
GTFO
Squat feeling >>>> DL feeling. >>>> shit >>>> sumo DL feeling.
Unless you're using almost exclusively legs, which is wrong.

>>38524430
>recover faster
Yeah

>Hit the same muscle groups harder
Wrong. Compounds > Isolations ESPECIALLY for beginners. Post your body so we can laugh at you.

>>38524430
>He got physically exhausted from his first time doing deadlifts and probably squats too so he tries to rationalise not doing them

dyels, when will they learn

>>38524745
Are you dumb? I never said jesse was natty and who cares if he roids lmao.

>>38512128
no

>>38525133
But Iso's hit muscle groups harder than compound, that's why peolpe do them, that's why they're called isolation exercises.
Also, IMHO really weak, anorexic guys should start with Isolations (like a month) because with noobgains they can fuck up the form/health too easily; after the muscles are fianlly used to strain move to compounds.

>>38525472

They don't. Isolation/compound is related to joint movement, not activation.

People do them because, rep for rep, they're less stressful which is good for accumulating more volume. Actual work per rep tends to be worse.

>>38525472
Tell me more about your 135lbs deadlift

>>38524206
buff baby ftw

Next CBT you go in, look at everyones back. Most of the people that are in between DYEL (real world standards) and God mode have no visible spinal erectors and shit thickness. Think about that next time you want to skip deadlifts.

>>38522587
>snatching in straps

>>38525472
>How to spot a dyel

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>>38524013
if by retarded you mean sexy as fuck (no homo) ur right.

>>38515104
Logic would dictate that the lower you go the more work you have to do.

ITT:

Hordes of maricones who do not understand that the better way to boost your CNS and core so you have better progression for the other lifts its HEAVY ASS DLS.

Its not about the direct effect of deadlifts, if theres something like it, its about how they affect your whole routine.