>you must count calories if you want to be shredded Who started

>>38455266
You should stop tryharding too
>checkmate

If adding 3 or 4 digit numbers that are generally multiples of 100 is hard for you, well...

How strong are you op?

>>38455266
Can we just leave this thread to die before a bunch of you get baited and memed?

@OP: For one, since when is basic multiplication and addition tryharding? Second, you won't maintain it either by just cutting some arbitrary amount of food then eating it all back not knowing what you're doing.

It's kind of like saying:
>You must put in a certain amount of gas to go through a roadtrip
>Who started this meme? If you can't eyeball the amount you need for X distance, you'll never make it.

It's just dumb. Calories and macros are tangible units that simplify weight loss, they do not complicate it. It gives you a measurable of food to eat and adjust.

Srs response because I actually dislike people trying to sabotage others and meme. Put out all the manlet memes you want or whatever other bs, but at least dont get in the way of other's fitness goals man.

>>38457126
do you really calculate how much gas you need? just fill up the tank man

I agree with OP even if he is a faggot. your fitness routine should be something you can maintain long-term , and being anally retentive about every calorie is a quick way to burn yourself out.

>>38457126
>Can we just leave this thread to die before a bunch of you get baited and memed?
>proceeds to type a whole bunch of shit in response to OP
You are actually your own cancer. That's pretty funny.

>>38457160
In that sense, just applying that to food will not net you actual losses in fat.

You don't have to be anally retentive about every calorie forever, but this is extremely useful during a cut, and during the period of reverse dieting. After that, maintaining low bodyfat is smoother sailing.

Nothing comes easy and it's like saying "if you are not naturally lean you won't make it" which is untrue.

Now just fuck off with your broscience. Let the people that want to better themselves do it without getting in the way.

OP is 100% right. If you don't agree with it, you're being flat out ignorant.

you can literally count calories in your head on the fly, i've been doing it for 10 years. i frankly can't believe that people don't.

>>38457198
>Let the people that want to better themselves do it without getting in the way.

Because you can't possibly better yourself without counting every calorie like a woman, right?

>>38455266
I am pretty lean without counting but this is pretty stupid man. Not everyone has the same genetix, apetite and metabolism, but the good thing is they can still get shreded if they want.