I want to be confident in my ability to beat up and/or knockout

Mma

>>38287079
Alternatively, carry a brick.

>>38287081
or pocket sand

>>38287064
Kickboxing is best.

Muay thai is good but overrated.

Sport karate is hit or miss

Tkd is a joke
Kung fu is a bigger joke (yes, even meme chun)

For grappling, wrestling and bjj is king

Judo is overrated

Aikido is the memiest joke
Most other grappling is mediocre, but effective (incl. jew dough)

Grappling is so easy to spar, it is not hard to find decent techniques outside of aikido

Dont fall for the a/sp/ie meme that grappling dont real and you can fight 20 people if you only do striking

insecure martial art fags are the worst

>>38287113
It amazes me so much of /fit/ hasn't realized that fighting is for children and niggers.

>>38287099

>grappling

LMFAO!!!

carry a gun or pepper spray if you are that scared

brazilian jiu jitsu will enable you to beat anyone who doesn't know brazilian jiu jitsu

bjj and muay thai should cover most of your bases

if you just want to learn how to punch someone out from a standing position then go with boxing

>>38287126
>>38287113

Not a fighting fag, but I do not see anything wrong with it.

sic vis pacem para bellum

whatever is the closest to you. go for a few weeks and learn how to punch properly. learn how to take a punch and spar a some.
done. now you are better than most of the people who would actually try to fight you.

>>38287157
>bjj and muay thai should cover most of your bases
This
Could substitute with kickboxing and SW but otherwise it holds true

Also how well you preform REALLY depends on your trainer/group
Some teach an aggressive style and to just push through, others are more tactical and focus on analysis and skill
Learn what works for you personally and play to your strenghts

Take up boxing. I've taken many styles of fighting but boxing is all I've ever needed.

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Here's a post I made in another thread a while ago

>learning martial arts for self defense

Nothing beats a well placed pipe bomb, anon.

Seriously though, getting good enough at a martial art to be competent in a street fight is not worth the effort. You're better off with just keeping a weapon or pepper spray on you. Learn to fight for the athleticism and the discipline, not for some bullshit, ego-fueled desire to win bar brawls.

Most martial arts don't prep you for multiple or armed attackers. Martial arts is a sport, don't get it confused with street fighting. Of course knowing how to fight is an advantage, but using tools that are designed for self defense is far more efficient. It's 20 bucks for a can of pepper spray, and that will stop an attacker just as well as a hook or a kick to the liver. Don't dedicate time and money into martial arts if all you want is protection, see it more as an added benefit for participating in an enjoyable and active hobby.

If you really want to have a 'practical' knowledge of martial arts, you generally have to crosstrain anyway. Old /asp/ would be good place to go to if you want to discuss that shit, but that place is full of pro-wrestling nerds now. However, the usual non-bullshit styles are generally boxing, muay thai and kickboxing, with judo, bjj and wrestling for grappling (sambo if you can find a good gym). Don't fall for shitty clubs and retarded ancient asian styles.

>>38287064
boxing

pipebomb

>ctrl+f
>No Krav Maga

What's wrong with you people

>>38287253
tits or gtfo

>>38287253
Krav Maga is a meme MA.

>>38287126
Do you not understand the concept of being attacked on the street?

you can't always choose to not be attacked. especially if you're /fit/..... we all know none of us fucks do cardio - we can't exactly run away

>>38287253
I feel like people who recommend this don't actually do it, but think it's somehow effective...

you can't ballshot and eye gouge your way out of every confrontation

>>38287064
obviously boxing/kickboxing tardo

>>38287293
no because i dont live in germany/sweden/france/uk

>>38287308
you listed some mooslim terrorist shit.

im talking about niggers that get uppity on the street when it gets warm outside

>>38287300
you think so? it doesnt seem very likely to get attacked by a person whos already missing both eyes and both balls. and if they are, they probably wont be too hard to avoid

>>38287326
If a martial art is nullified by a woman wearing glasses

it's probably a shit martial art

>krav maga, grappling, wrestling
Top mlem

Streetfights are done in few punches, you're not going to wrestle with idiots for half an hour, or get to apply some supercool move you saw in wwe
2-3 punches to the head and your oponnent (or you) gets ko'd
My advice is boxing (or carrying gun/knife)

Also
>fighting
I too remember my edgy highschool days op

>>38287095
Underrated post

>>38287300
I have both done it and instructed KM and recommend it to people wanting practical self defence based on real situations.
As for the ball shots. They go a long fucking way and are an amazing equaliser if you're outnumbered or outsized. Even if it doesn't drop the person it buys you time to follow it up with your counter attack or get the fuck out of there.
Too many people on here bag it without ever trying it. I can't defend it against 12 autists all sperging out about it so I rarely ever comment on these threads.

>>38287353
>I am top level krav maga master
>I hide my powerlevel

>Shh nothing personnell, kid

>>38287341
Krav Maga doesn't advocate wrestling or going to the ground. It also doesn't feature in wwe.
Swing and a miss there bro.

>>38287371
Found the first sperging autist.
That's your childish response to a serious reply? Your obv well informed

If you are only going to do ONE martial art, do BJJ

If you are going to be smart and get the whole fighting package do bjj, judo, wrestling, muy thai, and boxing.

>>38287353
why wouldn't you invest your time in boxing or muay thai?

Honestly. You've probably wasted years doing something that - if not wholly ineffective - is far less superior that boxing or a kickboxing form

Boxing and kickboxing spar against fully resisting opponents where you can actually see if what you're doing would actually work in a real fight

You can do your 50 combo 5 opponent drills in krav all day long - but you MUST know in the back of your head it won't work.

I will give Krav one compliment which is that it teaches aggressiveness. aside from that - why the fuck?

Other martial arts have proven their effectiveness in real fights - there are countless vids on youtube of boxing kickboxing bjj, wrestling, even judo beating up real opponents in real fights on the street

>>38287341
>Streetfights are done in few punches

People who have never fought and don't know what they are talking about should not respond.

>>38287300
Yeah, but it's one of the few martial arts that don't have rules. It's why there aren't any Krav Maga competitions, because then there would be rules, and then it'd be less use in an actual fight.

Even MMA, do you know how often the groin is left unprotected, because groin shots are illegal in MMA? In an actual fight, if you left that shit open, you can bet your ass I'm gonna go for it, cause it will hurt like fucking hell.

>>38287064
Worldstar fuccboi style. Just hit some one before they're ready. Shits not hard.

>>38287397
boxing and striking arts are inferior to grappling arts.

I weigh 160 lbs, have grappled in BJJ for one year 5 years ago, I can say without ego and total confidence that I could beat you in a fight if all you know is a striking martial art.

>>38287413
I can never tell if krav posters are serious or if they are just trolling

>>38287420
>grapple with nignog
>his buddies come around and stomp your head
>left with a concussion and brain damage

OR

>strike nignog
>retreat to safe distance
>notice his buddies are acting up
>either run, or strike a few more times and then get away
>leave with minor to no injuries

>>38287397
>>38287420

Oh sorry, I didn't fully read your post, I thought you were saying boxing was superior to grappling.

>>38287420
I can never tell if people who mock krav maga are serious or if they are trolling

>>38287397
I took up Krav on the advice of an MMA friend many years ago when I said I wanted something that wasn't rule bound and combined weapons/multiple attackers. He recommended it. I don't think its a waste of time at all. And I know for a fact it's very effective. As for comparing it to the others you mentioned. Of course I can't out box a boxer or out grapple a grappler etc bc they train specifically for just that. What I CAN do it brings things to the table that a boxer,wrestler,MT fighter has never encountered in their systems bc it's simply not allowed. I'm also comfortable working against multiple attackers bc we train that constantly. How many boxers in this thread have had 3 opponents come at them at once? The answer is 0 BC that's not boxing.
The 50 hit combo bullshit is just that. You obv have no idea about the training since the WHOLE idea of KM is to do as much damage in the quickest possible time.
There is more to say but I'm not sure you really care.

>>38287413
Why do you guys always bring up rules?

Do you really think someone that does muay thai can't kick you in the balls better than you can kick them in the balls? they probably would be way more accurate

Do you really think ball shots are that debilitating? With the adrenaline pumping I'd assure you 99% of guys would push through the pain and kick your ass. in mma fights people over react to ball shots to take a rest period. please show me a street fight with 2 guys where one gets hit in the balls and can no longer fight and gets his ass beat (a real fight, not two friends goofing around)

and how accurate do you think eye pokes are? It's like 1000 times easier to punch someone in the face than poke their eye.. it's a super small target. why would you practice something that's so unlikely to occur?


In a no rules fight to the death - someone that has done kickboxing and wrestling would kill any krav guy EASILY.

While they're going for super unlikely eyepokes they'll be taking kicks to the head and getting their limbs snapped on the ground after they're knocked out

>>38287438
The problem with striking is that there is no control.

Regardless of how skilled and experienced you are you do not control your opponents body and their is opportunity for them to attack you back.

It's not as simple as
>strike opponent

A skilled grappler has total and constant control of the situation in which he is fighting.

More than likely, the grappler would have mounted the opponent and would be striking them from mount and if his friends came along he would be a total liberty to stand and retreat.

>>38287420
im a blue in bjj and i also do muay thai and boxing but because people seem to always hate on bjj i focused my argument more on striking

>>38287462
>Do you really think someone that does muay thai can't kick you in the balls better than you can kick them in the balls?

No they can't because it's against the rules.

Only krav maga has been blessed by the almighty master of rules that we do not have to follow the rules.

Our ability to not follow rules have made us masters of combat.

The fact that we do not actively spar or preform stress testing doesn't mean anything, you hear me? ANYTHING

>>38287454
you really think you could take 3 opponents at once with your krav? Honestly? How fucking accurate are your eye pokes dude?

>>38287474
>im a blue in bjj

Then I probably wouldn't win.

>>38287462
Why do you think KM is only ball shots and eye gouges? You're completely ignorant to a system your bagging man.
If you like MT so much stick to it but why open your mouth to discuss a topic you have NO IDEA about. It's weird.

>>38287477
>No they can't because it's against the rules.

that really made me worry until i read the rest. hahah they actually believe that shit!

>>38287227
> Hummus ----> Krav Maga
Made me laugh.
Krav Maga isn't really a martial art, much like protein powder isn't really food; it's a tool meant to break your natural fear and hesitation during a confrontation and to make you more willing to react and eliminate a threat. In that regard, it's very effective, but it's not really something you can come out of showing flashy moves or medals.

Also OP, it's not about who's stronger, but who threw the first punch. Learn how to sucker punch and you're done.

>>38287477
What school/system have you been to that doesn't spar and stress test? I'm the KM instructor from above and I read this once a thread at least. I know your entire post is sarcasm but my question stands, where have you heard that KM doesn't spar or stress test? In the US there are some really shitty off shoots but I can say the 2 I have been involved in spar and stress test constantly. I wouldn't do it otherwise

>>38287490
because that's a main thing that differentiates it from boxing and kickboxing.

KM has strikes but i'm focusing on the major differences. their whole idea that there are no rules and that somehow would allow them to beat 3 people at once

>>38287462
Eye pokes =/= eye gouging. As in grabbing their face and thumbing the eye. If you had me locked in a ground guard, you'd be defending your face, while getting ready to go for a joint lock or a chokehold, as is trained in MMA, but I'd attack the groin, causing you to push me away, allowing me to escape the ground, so I'm not liable to be attacked by anyone else while I'm locked down.

>>38287477
Since they don't train to attack those parts, they won't instinctively attack those parts. Training to fight works by repeating a move so often, that you are able to do it without thinking in the actual situation.

>>38287522
Krav Maga isn't for being able to beat massive groups of people, it's designed to win fights as effectively as possible. You're more likely to defeat 3 people in a fight if you can defeat or incapacitate each person faster. Do you think that you can chokehold your way out of a fight with 3 people?

>>38287520
I took karv maga for a year and we never once sparred.

All we did was practice the "muy thai" clinch (as they called it) and skip kneed in the gut all day. occasionally we would do these horrible excuses for throws which we never practiced in sparring. Other times we would punch heavy bags with literally no technique.

I knew after 4 months there that in spite of all my training, I had no idea how to fight.

>>38287522
there is a lot more to it then that lmao
what you are thinking of are those little 5 minute speeches where they teach girls how to not get raped on the walk to their car

>>38287546
Shitty instructor =/= shitty martial art

>>38287535
>Do you think that you can chokehold your way out of a fight with 3 people?

Actually yes I think I can. I used to clean house with the neighborhood kids even the I was the youngest and the smallest, all because I had taught myself the guillotine choke even though I didn't know what it was.

>it's designed to win fights as effectively as possible.

That sounds good, but what does that really mean? it's honestly too philosophical for me to interpret.

>>38287522
That is not the main thing at all man. What are knives/sticks/hand guns/long weapons/improvised weapons/multiple attrackers/de escalation/use of common objects as defence/attack/verbal cues/attacker mentality/moving through crowds to escape/go towards a threat/defending a third party. THey are an example of the main differences. There is more but I think you get my point.

>>38287557
Well I would be delighted if you could provide me with an example of "Real" krav maga as opposed to the mcDojo crap I was introduced to.

>>38287567
>Chokehold one person
>Other two beat the shit out of you while you're choking the one

>>38287524
> If you had me locked in a ground guard, you'd be defending your face, while getting ready to go for a joint lock or a chokehold, as is trained in MMA, but I'd attack the groin, causing you to push me away, allowing me to escape the ground

Okay, please listen to me, im a blue belt in bjj and i'm trying to help you

i wouldn't be in guard going for a submission. i'd be on top at all costs.

BUT lets just pretend for whatever reason i was on bottom with you in guard. - i would never try to submit you from there, i would sweep you quite easily (assuming you've never done bjj for any length of time) and get in mount and punch you until i got tired.

secondly you couldn't attack the groin when im on bottom and you're in guard, it's literally in a position held so tight to you( so hot) that you would have to pry in between your abs and my body to get to it, guard isn't a loose position. everything would be very tight and close. if you just punched down you would hit my pubic area. you'd be far better off punching at my face.

third, if for whatever reason i did want to submit from the bottom ( which is a bad idea on the street) you would have made it 100 times easier by going for my groin - dropping your hands - leaving your head / neck open to me.

lastly i'll add that in bjj we actively practice standing up from the bottom of guard. in a street fight (at least in my gym) it's not recommended that you ever be on the bottom in a street fight ever.

I'd want to get off the ground as badly as you would

>>38287535
No, i don't think I could beat 3 people at all.


and I know you couldn't either.

the gracies actually did a video on "how to beat multiple opponents)

the video was about how you can't defeat multiple people with bjj

maybe with striking - but you'd have to be literally world class.

>>38287571
That sounds cool, but the reality is that most militaries, when it comes to hand to hand combat, are utter and complete shit. No authority in the military even takes the idea of gun disarming seriously and they don't invest at all into investigating effective techniques and developing a functional martial art. Most hand to hand combat systems developed by militaries are after thoughts and not even developed.

The strong militaries who take all aspects of combat seriously contract their hand to hand combat training out to third parties like the Gracie family and other grapply/striking/mma instructors.

>>38287578
well, we were kids so a choke hold did a lot more damage than our fists.

5 second guillotine would disable the first, then the next, and so one, and they all hit like children because we were so I didn't care if they hit me.

>>38287524
As soon as you attacked his groin you would be caught in a triangle choke and passed out before you even knew what happened.

I'm not saying that for effect either, you would literally be unconscious before you knew what technique he was using on you.

>>38287615
thank you,

that's why i added this line

>third, if for whatever reason i did want to submit from the bottom ( which is a bad idea on the street) you would have made it 100 times easier by going for my groin - dropping your hands - leaving your head / neck open to me.

>>38287593
This is a street fight thread. Not a military hand to hand thread. The person who pulls a gun/knfe is gonna be some smacked out junkie who wants $10 Or someone literally trying to kill you. It'd be nice to at least have an option other than get stabbed or shot.

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>>38287622
both hands in or both hand out.

I'm a fan of the double hook under pass, but I have to be really quick and synchronize my hands so I don't get one caught in the guard.

>>38287574
Ikmf or KMG

>>38287654
Who's the one caught there? Because the guy tith his arms under the legs could just grab one of the other guys fingers and snap it.

>>38287651
I'm not very well trained in the proper schools of martial arts, I only have a year of BJJ, But I have a little experience with weapon fighting, with the exception of knives.

I've been attacked with 2x4s and hammers, and each and every time I have taken their weapon away from them, much to their horror.

I would never fight someone with a knife and expect not to get cut.

But from my experience, most people who pull weapons... what's going in their mind is "holy shit, I'm attacking someone with a weapon, I can't believe this is happening".

You just have to be more audacious than them. Take charge and control of the situation.

The guy who was attacking me with the hammer, hit me in the head from behind, I turned around, and when he swung again I grabbed it by the handle and took it from him. He was so surprised he stumbled back on his feet.

People who are crazy enough to pull weapons, are counting on their recklessness to pull them through in the fight, most of the time they have no real control of the situation or the weapon.

>>38287695
A knife is no different from an short iron bar if they can't hit you with it.

>>38287687
jesus christ.

if that's a serious question you should avoid bjj and wrestler guys like the fucking plague. you'd be put to sleep in 10 seconds flat

the guy on his knees is in the process of passing the other guys's legs to one side, or flip him over, so he can gain a more dominant top position over him.

no one is caught here, its a transition phase

>>38287143
Neither are legal here. Not everyone lives in America.

>>38287687
also he can just stand up and walk away from here. the guy on his knees is choosing to engage in ground grappling at this point.

>>38287715

Thing about knife fighting is even if I close the distance and get a hold of his knife hand, if he wrestles that hand away for just a second, I'm going to get stabbed in the gut at least ten times and die, depending how hardcore my opponent it.

>>38287733
>>38287715

Now, are there truly effective ways to engage in knife combat? Maybe, but I haven't researched it at all, so I know that if someone pulled a knife on me, I would be looking to retreat, rather than fight.

>>38287772
In all fights, your first aim should always be to leave the fight as quickly as possible. You should only fight if there is no other choice, if your goal is self preservation. The only reason to fight if you can get away, is if you choose to.

>>38287733
The trick is to counter attack asap. Once you gain control (if that's what your plan is) strike/kick simultaneously to soften them up. They won't wrestle nearly as hard wth a fist smashing into their face and their balls back inside them.

>>38287099
As a judoka I can tell you that judo is not the flipy shit from movies and ronda vs girl from kickboxing class.
It is a sport that has practical elements when it comes to fighting.
If you want to fight train a art that has been adjusted for mma e.g. bjj(some) wresting.
For striking boxing ,my or KB is good as long as it involves heavy sparing.
Same with any other

>>38287079
Fuck no.

>>38287064
Boxing

>>38287454
Dealing with multiple attackers is a meme unless your Steven segal
Are you hit with force, if not you'll need to be.
>inb4 2 deadly
Remove your fedora and katana blade

>>38287064
Boxing > all

opinion might be a bit biased but it's what seems to work best in the real world aka streets.
no way you'll be throwing kicks(unless low kick but even then its dangerous) or grappling or whatever
I've also seen the muay thai guys that try out boxing with us that have a really shitty guard against someone that boxes

>Best self defence art argument
>no one brings up staying home and shit posting
>inb4 what if you get in my face
>Has anyone got stabbed on 4chan?

>>38288371
Yeah and I've seen boxers who dont know what to do when someone kicks.

If you wish to be good at fighting you need to train multiple disciplines

>>38287157
Bullshit.

Punching someone is significantly easier to pull off than grappling someone to the ground.

Brazillian jiu-jitsu is such a specialist martial art you may as well have suggested 'freestyle wrestling'. Sure, it's useful, but only once they're on the ground, or if the fight starts with you right in their face.

>>38288399
Kicking is a meme outside of competition.

Grappling is good but only in one on one fair street fights, which idk about you guys, but for me I haven't seen one of those since the days at the school yard. Street fighting is a nasty business. Boxing is the most practical combat sport that would help you in the street.

But in reality, the best is a CCW.

T. Floridian.

>>38288399
>Yeah and I've seen boxers who dont know what to do when someone kicks.
>Yeah I've seen morons.

You grab their legs.

Do you wanna know why you rarely see kicking in MMA and street fighting? Kicks are opportunistic, and you rarely have the opportunity.

>>38288420
>j-just grab the kick
Why didnt anyone think of that in MMA or thaiboxing?

shit son, you might actually be retarded.

>>38288295
boxing is a part of mma, how can boxing be ok and mma not?

>>38288399
gotta have dat dere fast footwork

kicking is too dangerous in real life, you can slip or get grabbed, even worse if it's against more than one person
with box you just do the pivots and distribute punches to everyone


I want to learn muay thai one day though, and yeah a boxer would have problems with kicks, my master taught me how to fuck them up but I forgot, have been on a 2 month vacation without boxing.

>>38288430
Because that's the elite %1 of fighting sports

The other 99% basement dwelling NEETs that frequent gyms will get rekt.

>>38288295
Seriously, boxing is the only real answer especially considering the actual question. The best way for a beginner to beat someone up.

If we're talking strictly self-defense I'd say do a 12 week security course, that way you're more employable and learn a myriad of methods for apprehending someone with minimal risk of injury or fatality.

But if you want to be confident in your ability to king hit someone or simply beat them in a fight? Boxing.

I'm not saying other martial arts aren't good, but they generally involve knowing how to punch.

>>38288440
Look, boxing is a spectacle, it's not an effective way to fight someone who doesnt limit himself to just boxing.

Your footwork would get your legs killed

>>38288430
>you must be retarded for thinking that a level strike with a limb that has potentially more bodyweight behind it is better than a strike FROM THE GROUND with a limb you need for balance.

So, that's your argument then?

>>38288448
obviously someone that knows more than one martial art as an advantage but in the streets you won't be doing much more than either using your hands or knives(in this case just fucking run)
you also have to know the other martial art to a minimum to know how to fight back, a clueless or bad boxer will get shit on by kicks

also most people don't fight, were talking about street scenario not ring which boxing is the best martial art for it, one good punch will leave the guy in the ground

>>38288433
Don't get me wrong mate, mma is fun, but the average mma trainer sucks dick at most martial arts and is just trying to ride the wave for money. They are not even decent at one thing. You're going to learn 1000 moves with absolutely SHITTY technique when really you should be practicing the same 5 punches 10,000 times.

You gotta understand, the fitness industry is 90% industry 10% fitness. And right now mma gyms are making a killing off the meme that is MMA.

With boxing, most of the trainers have been boxing their entire lives and can turn off lights with a well placed punch. It is also much easier to find a really good boxing or kick boxing or bjj gym than it is a mma gym. Most mma trainers just trained in MMA. The guy I worked out with boxed for 10 years, did bjj for 5 and wrestled in high school and college. He is a beast trainer because he was able to get a real good grasp on those arts individually and synthesize it all together as opposed to just learning mma like most do.

>>38288476
I'm not sure you're kidding or not, you kick way harder than you could ever punch.

>>38288488
Trolling or...?

Whatever, I'll bite: When you punch properly you use the force and weight of your torso, arm and legs. A punch always has more potential momentum because you don't need to sacrifice half of your bodyweight to life your arm up.

>>38288448
Most people fighting in the street are poor ghetto thugs who haven't had formal training with anything except street fighting. You're not going to see a tom of kicks and shit in the street.you just don't.

Take it from me. I was he only spic who grew up in the pork and beans in Miami. Most street fights involve weapons, concrete floors, and multiple people om both sides
Kicking and grappling is suicide in those situations.

>>38288488
Jesus dude...

just stop.

>>38288482
well, you just kinda assume that OP wont be able to find anything that is not a mcdojo
which may or may not be true depending on the area he is in, but the question was more about disciplines in general, if i read correctly

>>38288415
keg kicks work and should be used by heavyset boxing styles (want, rampage) and super atheleats styles (gsp, jbj and mm)
It is like the whip like jab gsp has as a underated tool to add

>>38288493
Not sure what you're point is, whenever you kick something you use your entire body to do so, it is very evident you have no training whatsoever if you think you can punch harder than you can kick.

>>38288482
pretty much this

my master used to box as a teen and grown up, won titles as a teen and was vice-champion as an adult
did a lot of other martial arts and learning boxing with him is fucking goat, not to mention he's almost 40y old and big and a fucking beast
Pretty fun watching him rotate the entire gym(were like 4 guys counting with him, sometimes 5-7 but they always come to try and simply quit due to the intensivity kek) and just shit on us

not only am I learning how to box but also how to become a man, itt's pretty amazing how a lot of stuff on box(mostly psychological/mental) applies to real life struggles

>>38288517
Kicks work in competition. Not in the street m8.

>>38288482
This is true.
Fundamentals is more important that wheal kicks and flying armbars

>>38288306
Says the fucking guy who has never trained in it. If you're scared then that's fine but shit talking about a subject you know nothing about is lame man. Go eat another bag of Doritos

>>38288531
>going to kick
>slip on something on the floor
>fall or lose balance for a second or two
>instantly beaten by 8 negroes

>>38288512
In terms of the disciplines themselves, boxing would be the best for what OP wants, which is to knockout/beat up the average male. The average male has no combat sports training. Boxing would do a beautiful job of keeping you safe while ending confrontations quickly.

>>38288531
I have seen leg kicks land in street fights and have an effect the fight is won with hands.

>>38288556
dude stop replying to them, they're boxers who dont realize that their combat sport is extremely limited.

>>38288500
>>38288546
(This)

>>38288563
>check out my dank memes bro.

>b-boxing is best because you can beat up homeless people with it

yeah that sounds like boxing

>>38288534
I have done krav mega for years.
Guys don't jump back if their poked in the eye, it is not wwe.

>>38288563
I am trying to explain how the same aspects can be found in different techniques such as leg kicks.
Boxers tend to be in good shape, leg kicks will work especially well for someone who has these traits>>38288564

>>38288621
And if they're not in good shape, they're Tyson fury and will sit on your to death regardless of your grappling or kicking skills.

>>38288621
leg kicks work if he's at a distance, which he won't be.

>>38288409
I'll take takedowns for 500, ALex

>>38288646
>boxer babby who only uses his hands thinks he control the distance
lmao

>>38288584
No you haven't. You're nt even a good liar. If you'd done KM for years you'd know multiple attackers aren't " Steven Sagal" shit. You'd have trained it for years and understand what's been said above. You'd also know that if you touch someone's fucking eyeball they react. No human just ignores a finger in the eye you retard. Go jam you're finger in your own eye and see how well you type your shitty misinformed reply to this post.

>>38288652
>>38288580
>>38288563
>sports
>control distance
Nigga were talking aboutnstreet fighting you faggot not competitive sports re read OPs post you fucking faggot.

>>38288632
>can you re word that please.
Tyson fury has a body composition that fit different styles (see Keith jardien, Connor McGregor)
Hope that answers your question

>>38287099
>judo is overrated
>I used to watch my drunk Russian friend slam varsity wrestlers on their spines at parties every weekend
>he only practices judo for 4 years overseas

Yeah ok.

>>38288696
Your friend is a faggot. The parties you attend are full of faggots. You are a faggot.

>>38288659
>Let's create a scenario to demonstrate the contrast in our logic.
If I have your back and in a rear naked choke (pic related) and you poke me in the eye I believe that I am not going to release, jump up and roll around the floor.
I am going to become more angry and hostile, in this situation snap your neck.

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>>38288723
Pic related

>>38287420
Daniel pls go.

>>38288696
As a judoka I can tell you that some of the throws and styles do not Cary over well, judo is a point sport and the best thing it give a fighter is physical ability, a core set of skills (more mental) and the fact that you have someone one hanging on to you pulling you every which way to unbalnce you

>>38287420
>Damien Maia mode achieved

>>38287522
Oh my god you're retarded lol. Like shit, I rag on my lifting buddy because he does krav and I do sambo + judo, but you have absolutely no fucking idea what you are talking about.

>>38288706
You sound hurt kiddo. Stick to lifting, this obv isn't the thread for you :^)

As long as you can find a club that spars regularly, I think that's your best bet OP. Being able to actually spar a couple times a week will make you less afraid to be hit, and being afraid is what gets you really hurt.

The MA you choose matters much less than the frequency of sparring.

lmao @ these fucking boxertards

>>38288882
At least crossfiters think they can fight

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>>38287126
Beating the shit out of others is the ultimate high

>>38288696
Unless you train without a gi, judo and bjj are kind of shit.

>>38288988
The GI should be used if you are under 16 due to it's advantages but advanced players should look to remove it

>>38287064
pipe bomb

>>38287064

As long as you live in a civilized first world country, the average male has no idea how to fight at all, so any fighting discipline will give you an advantage over them.

However, if the place you live is a shithole filled with niggers/spics/pakis who've grown up getting into streetfights all the time, your best choices are boxing, wrestling and MMA. Don't bother with any meme shit like Krav Maga or BJJ.

Also, if you're ever in a situation where the fight is 2 or more against one, just run away. No amount of fighting skill will help you if 5 guys get you cornered.

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>>38288482
This is why my mma gym has one wrestling pro, one bjj pro, one muay thai pro, and one mma pro,one training session with each of them each per week, maybe you could simply look up those people that train you, like a responsible adult, instead of jumping on the "mma sux xddd"-train?
Also in what kind of third world shitholes do you guys live? Almost every mma gym(not the cheap shithole hyms) in my city has atleast one ufc fighter
Have some high test bro

>>38290396
Nigga I train at an MMA gym with fighters in there I just said the guy I train with has done all those for decades and that MMA is fun. We have guys there that just box and fight professionally, kids in college wresting my gym is pretty stacked bro.


But for most cats MMA is going to get them killed out on the street. And for every really good gym theres 3 shit ones that will blast the logo all over the place to reel in normies . again, 90% industry 10% fitness that's indisputable

Look OP you wanna knock cats out, box. You want to compete, do your research. Find gyms that haven trophies hanging on their walls. That goes for all gyms, kick boxing, bjj, wrestling any gym worth a damn will have trophies from their fighters who have fought out that gym.

>>38290396
> mma sux xddd -train
Looks like a Linux command to me...

>>38288523
I am not sure if you took a bait or those guys are actually retarded...

>>38287717
Well obviously you need a box cutter for work.

>>38287293
Carry a gun like the rest of us. I'm more afraid of being attacked at the gym. Too many weapons there.

>>38287394
If they cover judo basics in Bjj like most places, just do Bjj and a striking art like kickboxing, muay thai, or boxing.

>>38287064
It's all mostly bullshit but any one of them can give you basics of how to properly fight and throw a punch and take one ect. One of the biggest things is being able to take a punch, and it's more confidence then some kind of ability (though the glass jaw is real, some people is just pussy)

I'm biased but American Boxing is great exercise and focuses on actual fighting and not some martial art meditation bullshit. I assume other 'disciplines' like Kickboxing, MMA, Krav Maga and BJJ are the same.

>>38287064
Are these the sengan galo guys?

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>>38290627
I see your point breh, but to be honest to knock out the average "man" nowdays practicing some meme martial art should be all you need
Have some high test

>>38287341
Is it worth it for a woman to learn wrestling since she's probably going to be getting raepd?

>>38287064
What is wrong with all their eyes?

>>38290802
Wrestling is pretty much only about getting your opponent to the ground, bjj might be useful when getting raped

>>38290818
they're asian

>>38290864
Oh shit sorry, didn't want to pick on the handicapped

Everyone
:

https://youtu.be/X9iGCDMltZ4
This is what a street fight looks like..

You know whats the best way to win a street fight?

Run and escape with your health intact.

I spent time in the can and have seen shit worse than that video, but when youre in prison you have 0 choice. Ive taken and givinf beatings like that. Its not fun. Its not cool. It destroys lives in seconds.

Unless you are in prison and can't run, don't get into fights I'm the street.

t. /fit/ bro who got into shape in prison.

>>38287717
>mace
>illegal
See you on the playground

>>38290935
In*
Given*

See what thefuck fighting does to you?

>>38290935
>Ive taken and givinf beatings like that
Were you arrested by the grammar police?

For simply beating the shit out of your opponent, Krav Maga/Boxing

>>38290935
Holy shit

Rex Kwon do

>>38287064
>azns with blond hair
>any non white with blond hair for that matter
why do people do this?

>>38292169
Why do people get tattoos in languages they can't read? Same reason.

>>38287064
These gooks look fucking retarded.

>>38292354
Because they're clueless faggots? Yeah, you're probably right

>>38292162

Only works if you're fucking Starla, otherwise it's a meme Peter Pan.

>>38287293

This doesn't fucking happen. Be male, tall, and walk with your shoulders back and nobody's going to fuck with you.

That said, martial arts are good for other things.

>>38287402
>Streetfights are done in few punches

This. 90% of real fights are about wind and endurance - or who is less drunk. >>38287341 probably thinks frat boys shoving each other at a bar is a 'fight' though.

>>38287593
>contract their hand to hand combat training out to third parties like the Gracie family and other grapply/striking/mma instructors.

Gracie fanboi detected. You guys are like the Aikido true believers who think the OSensei could dodge bullets.

>>38287695

Guns have a similar flaw for 'self-defense' - they're only useful if you're willing to shoot and kill another person.

Most people simply aren't.

>>38288415
>Kicking is a meme outside of competition.

This is why you'll lose fights if you ever actually have one.

Legs are stronger than fists, and 99% of the population only knows how to punch. A quick kick to the head will end most fights, if you're able to do it.

>>38288879

This, beyond all. It's practice being in fights that helps the most.

Go to a boxing gym and make some bros, learn how to take a punch yourself and/or tap. Humility will solve most of your concerns.

>i want to beat up average
Stop. Martial arts are meant for killing other trained killers, as Joe Rogan says. Having a couple years of boxing will help, but as soon as you fuck up and start fighting some insane mma guy you're donezo.
Train Krav Maga. I'm thinking OP wants a confidence boost "oh yeah fuck this dude I'd beat his ass" but Krav will get even the most retarded person the basics. Supplement with Muay Thai, Wrestling, Boxing, BJJ, whatever. When you train with no intention to compete, don't train with rules in mind.

Boxing/muay thai for striking and judo for ground work and learning to use the energy of your opponent.

If you train these two you should be fine.

>>38288409
>specialist martial art
>literally a must know by any MMA fighter today
pick 1

it's pretty hard to punch someone when they're tackling you to the ground so they can whoop your ass using BJJ

if you're going to rely on your boxing ability vs a BJJ fighter you better be damn good at wrestling too so you can avoid a takedown

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>>38288377
4chan stab victim here. never again

>>38292508
>I've never been in a fight: the post.

>>38293004

Been in a few, including one against 7. I've also ended a fight with a circle kick before - because the lunk wasn't expecting a kick in a street fight, and my boot hitting him in the temple convinced him to sit down quickly.

>>38293068
>Circle kick
Did you knock out ryu

>>38288723
Since this is a street fight and not a ring fight by the time you are halfway to managing to get me in this position on the ground my mates have buried their boots in your skull and your unconscious. Seriously, if you don't understand the flaws of going to the ground in the street you're going to end up dead.

I recently started training Wing Chun, what does /fit/ think about this MA?

The best response to these garbage children's thread is Pipebomb

>>38294390
>Wing Chun
>Get pushed
>Fall down/lose balance
Wing Chun and everything like it has no defense against a "controlled charge".

>>38287064
Become fucking Jason Bourne.

>>38287371

Yeah not him but you're kind of a faggot.

avoid fights and train boxing and avoid fights and carry a knife

>>38287064
The problem is most of the fighting in real life starts with random circumstances. If two parties are inexperienced it becomes a funny video if someone is recording. If one party knows a discipline, it may become a one sided fight. But for this to happen you need to do the fighting on your terms. For example I sincerely believe that any grappling discipline would help you beat pretty much anyone if you can take fight to the ground. But if the other party keeps getting away it's just impossible.

What I do is, I don't put myself in dangerous conditions and I contemplate on how to beat people in different situations as a pastime.

In short: there is no best fighting discipline to rule them all in real life, there is situational awareness, skill and training.

>>38287095
Best post in thread.

WRASTLING & Kickboxing are a pretty solid combo. If you don't want to destroy your fists by missing, make sure you learn the subtleties behind ground and pound. It will help you prevent fucking your hand up and get around the different efforts they make to cover up