How the fuck do people eat >3500 calories a day? This shit

>150g of oats

I have 400.

>>38143729


3x 1k meals and some snacks or soda shit? I don't know, doesn't seem that hard.

What I was wondering if I can just fill the rest of my calories with alcohol if I hit my protein and fat goals? Anyone ever did that?

>>38143740
>1k meals
what does this usually consist of?

>>38143729
Sugary drinks and fat. Fat has lots more calories

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>>38143729
This

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>>38143729
Do you like oreos?

>>38143729
Oats are a fucking great food but they're terrible for bulking. Way too filling for the amount of calories you get. You need more shit like the peanut butter; low satiety crazy high calorie.

>>38143729
do people not realise you can ask them to put extra meat and cheese on your burger at maccas?

>>38143759
I have a question.

"Oats and squats" is a meme I heard a lot on /v/, and I'm trying to find a replacement for my current snack.

Whenever I hear oats, I think of what oxen eat. Is there a certain brand or something I can google?

do you even pasta? pasta, yoghurt, nuts, rice, how in the fuck can you not hit your goal of 3,5k ?

>>38143729

My maintenance is about 3000~ when on gear and am obligated to have at least 250-300g protein, its pretty annoying eating clean but at the same time its nice you get to eat so much.

>500g yogurt + 2 scoops (500 calories)
>600calories of chicken/lamb/pork/beef any part or mince and 400g mixed vegetables with 4 eggs(about 400 calories)
>another 600 calories of meat and about 500 calories of a pasta dish, or root vegetable mash, etc

For the few hundreds left I usually just eat protein powder straight up (salted caramel from myprotein, yum) or just eat some deli meats if I can find it on the discount section, or any random shit I find on the discount section.

I could eat bread or oats or whatever for ridic easy calories, but fuck that shit you might as well just eat poptarts and pizza.

>>38143747
>>38143759
>>38143770
>>38143779
>>38143740

Basically you all just told me it's okay to eat unhealthy stuff to reach macros.
Isn't there anything healthy that is calorie dense? (And also cheap)

>>38143744
3 slices of French toast, 8 oz milk, and syrup gets you pretty damn close. It's not hard.

The problem is that you people eat INGREDIENTS instead of MEALS. Try being a little creative and branching out from spoonfuls of peanut butter.

>>38143754
Look at that protien. Damn shame Baskin Robin don't exist where I live

>>38143787
nuts

8 sausages, fried eggs, cheddar and gammon stacked on toast, that'll get breakfast out the way

>>38143787
Carbs, i'm cutting right now and 200g of rice is about 700kcal.

It's almost half of daily cal intake. but ridiculous in portion size, for a whole day.

>>38143787
eggs

beer

>>38143787

the fuck? i didn't in any way advocate you to eat shit like bread, poptarts and pizza.

Like 500 calories of that garbage is fine post work out but I ain't suggesting you should.

>>38143816
That's really not that much protein if you look at the calories

>>38143816
That's really not that much protein if you look at the calories.

2 scoops cmon and you'd have about the same amount of protein at 10% the calories

being able to eat more than your body needs was literally the requirement to survive for millions of years
those who didn't eat as much as they could when food was abundant would later starve in the period of scarcity
you should kill yourself if you can't bulk because you're a genetic fuck up

>>38143853
Just curious, why is it fine post-workout?
>>38143833
Should I eat whole bread?

>>38143747
that shit is literally frosting marketed as being good as breakfast food and it weirds me out

>>38143914
because it'll cause an insulin spike when your muscles need amino acids, shunting excess glucose and other food derivatives into bodily tissues, including muscles
also cause you've just used up a lot of calories in the workout

I always thought oats were great for bulking, is there a replacement for them?
Peanut butter satiates me tho.

>>38143914
For the exact same reason people inject insulin after workouts to get huge.

liquid calories

>>38143729
220g protein
120g fat
400g carbs
Breakfast: 110g rolled oats, 40g sultanas, 60g frozen berries, 2 scoops vanilla whey, 30g crunchy PB, 250g bannana, and 300ml light milk +multivitamin and fish oil
Then eat chicken, rice, fish, frozen vegetable mixes, fruit, muesli/oat bars, cereals with yoghurt, and pasta.

>>38143933
of course they're great for bulking, why wouldn't they be
some people just can't stomach adult portions

>>38143729
People have mentioned nuts and that's a great one to have as a calorie dense snack, OP.
Walnuts for example are 210 calories for 1/4 a cup. You get healthy fats, vitamin E, omega 3 and protein from it and it's a large amount of calories for such a small amount of food.

I'd say cheese is another decent option. Depending on the type, it could be 80-110 calories for a single slice. It's pretty much a cup of milk in one slice, but I still wouldn't go overboard with it.

Do you not make smoothies? It's the easiest way to down a lot of calories and vitamins in one go and can really add up. Throw in milk, frozen banana, cherries, kale, chocolate whey protein and you've got 600 calories or more if you add more than one scoop of whey. Hell, you can throw in the walnuts or even the peanut butter you don't enjoy on its own.

>>38143729
Ma maintenance is 3.2k. Currently lean bulking at 3.5k. I need to eat lots of bullshit to get all the calorues down desu

>>38143767
mate other cuntries dunno what maccas is

>>38144023
Post bod stats?

>>38143729
Drink more milk. Easy as fuck calories. 1 liter of milk has about 500 calories.

>>38143729
>How the fuck do people eat >3500 calories a day?
What kind of pussy of a man are you if you can't even eat 3500 calories.
That's easy as fuck.

>>38144313
Literally perfect
>skeletons will still complain

i used to be like you OP. i couldnt gain weight. tried GOMAD but ended up vomiting every evening. could barely digest ½GOMAD and still gained like 0.3 kilos a week. and that was only like 3000 calories a day.

after my mandatory military service i learned to eat. getting only one meal a day at most for a week or two teaches you to eat as much as you can in one sitting. nowadays 4000kcal a day would be not a problem at all.

i eat 400 grams of rice every day in two meals. its way easier for me than oats. oats are a bit too filling IMO. so, if possible, do that.

you should strive to eat more carbs rather than just calories. it's way more efficient in terms of recovery and performance than just eating for calories and getting shitloads of fats, provided you get enough fats (and protein) already. like 1g/kg of fats and 2.5g/kg of protons.

uhhh u dont need to eat 100% clean to get your daily calories just make sure you hit your daily protein

Willpower. I swear this skelly "How do you eat so much?" shit is the reverse of fatties whining that eating smaller, lower-calorie meals is tantamount to starvation.
Force yourself, faggot.

Some people love to eat

>>38144327
>>38144313

>only 130g protein for 3700 cals

You going for the jason blaha look?

>>38144327
There used to be a pizza place near my home that did 20" square pizzas and one of their 'sauce' options was garlic butter (not some puss out sauce, I'm talking actual butter and garlic applied with a baking spatula). One of those with all the meats and double cheese could hit 12,000 Calories.

>>38144313
>20 grams of fiber for 3700kcal
enjoy shitting your intestines out

>>38143729
Pretty fucking simple, eat calorie dense food.
example
1kg of quark is 500kcal
100gr of chocolate is 700kcal
(1kg / 10 = 100gr for you americlaps)

>>38143729
I fucking wish I could eat 3500 cals and not be a fat fuck.

Honestly my appetite is fucked from being so fat before. If I don't pay attention or stop myself, I could probably hit 5k cals a day.

>>38144342
you never tried lowering protein didn't you you fucking noob
regular sized nattys don't need more than 100g. 130g is enough for a 90kg guy

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>>38144342
Happy now?

>>38144358
>Not cleansing your colon with grease

>>38143729
>half a liter
>150 grams

This is why you're a baby, EAT BIG TO GET BIG BITCH.

>>38143729
stamppot desu

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>mfw reading this thread

Idk man, I'm a professional cook and I struggle every single time to stay below 3500. Good thing my work keep me on my feet for most of the day, when i'm on holidays I balloon up like you wouldn't believe.

>>38144383

>5100 calories
>only 270g protein

going for that sumo look now?

>>38144382

who should I believe?

>natty fatass summerfag redditard visiting /fit/ who has neither aesthetics, muscles or a phd related to bodybuilding

or

>layne norton, lyle mcdonald, dave palumbo, etc

enjoy your protein deficiency.

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>>38143729
>half a liter of milk a day, 150 g of oats 2 table spoons of peanut butter
mfw that's my breakfast

>>38144439
just from this post I know you haven't been lifting for more than a year

>>38144439
>He can't burn 5100 cal in a day

>>38144463

t. fat pajeet using his "own" routine and "own" diet cause he's superior to olympia level coaches and people with 10+ year phds on bodybuilding.

Rock on raj, you gonna be the best "indie" bodybuilder in mumbai

>>38144383
Jesus christ that proton-carb-fat ratio

Why

>>38143754
The existence of this shake scares me.

>>38144489
That would be the several loaves-worth of dough.

>>38144491
It's almost as if... they want to make people fatter...

>>38144491
How the fuck do you even put 2600 kcals into ONE cup?!

>>38143729
>even by drinking half a liter of milk a day

What? I drink 0,5 - 1L milk per meal. Step up your game OP

>>38144507

that's almost 1 liter.

That ain't no "cup"

>>38143754
>doesn't contain crustaceans
>you will never enjoy an Oreo and woodlouse shake

>>38143729
ten doughnuts equal 3000ish calories. if ever you need to pad out your diet with bullshit, eat a damn pastry. or mashed potatoes.

honestly, living in america, it's quite easy to hit any number of macros.

>>38144512
Some Americans will drink 32oz of soda before brunch.

>>38144496
Going for that 60% carb 20% proton 20% fat ratio kek

Require more protons and less carbs

>>38144512
It should have a big label on it saying: YOURE GOING TO GET FAT AS FUCK PUT ME DOWN

>>38144507
ancient 5%ers from Mutant Valley who mastered the art of scooping would supposedly make shakes with 10,000 or even 20,000 calories
their techniques were forgotten and the best the guys like Rich Piana today can do is 5,000 which is still pretty good
just ask the biggest guy at your gym about scoops, it's worth it. 2600kcals in one cup will seem like nothing

>>38144533
>20% proton
>more protons

It may not be great pizza but I'm pretty sure Papa John's doesn't contain significant quantities of transuranics.

>Having trouble eating 3000 cals
Just eat some meat and pasta, that's like 800 in only one meal, over 1000 if you put some sauce or shit on it.

>>38143729
cheese, butter, and oil are probably the biggest culprits.

when you cook for yourself you tend to ration your cooking ingredients cause money and it's gross to see that much butter or oil in the pan. but fast food places and restaurants just serve you the shit and since you don't get to see when goes into it you just assume it's no different I guess? I remember on man vs food he went to this one place that brushed half a stick of melted butter onto each bun of their burger so you were eating a full stick of butter per burger. that should be basically illegal unless it's in bold print on the front of the menu

>>38144533
slightly more proton, way more carbs and way less fats. why the fuck would you eat less carbs? 400 carbs is fucking nothing for 5000 kcals

>>38144561
Best ratio is 40/40/20

If you eat 60/20/20 at 5100 kcals you're going to be a fatass, i don't care how much cardio you do.

>>38144571
oh and my answer would be more animal protein. every meal eat some kind of chicken, pork, or beef. I'd say fish but too low cal if you are having trouble meeting your TDEE. but yeah. meat. hell, bacon and sausage for breakfast with eggs is awesome and so satisfying. plus all that greasy goodness will make your shits slide out like a canned ham.

>>38144578
Not that guy and personally i stick to 50/30/20, but that's a moronic statement. Long distance runners/ciclist and swimmers often eat more than that and with even less proteins and more carbs in proportion and yet I've never seen one of them fat.

>>38144375
I know your pain.

>>38144578
>missing the joke

>>38144578
ratios do not really apply for 5000kcal diets. theres hardly any point in getting 400 grams of proton instead of, say, 300. same goes for fats. its just more calories and for most people, getting the extra cals from carbs instead of fats and protein is more efficient in terms of recovery and performance.
>>38144578
what benefit do you think you'd see from getting 500 grams of protein instead of 250 grams? 3-4 grams of leucine per meal is enough to maximally peak MPS and 250 grams is easily enough for that.

>3500
Lmao that's one pizza you cunt

unless you are on roids and train 2 times x day 2g x kg (1gxlbs) of body weight is more than enough.

>>38144638

>eating 5100 calories
>natty

yeah no, with gear you can absorb more than 300g.

>>38144663
absorption does not matter, peaking MPS matters and gear does not change the amount of leucine needed for maximal MPS

>>38143754
Just add 4 scoops and you're done for the day.

>>38144687

guess every pro bodybuilder is doing it wrong.

>>38144718
nice authority fallacy

>>38144759

alright mr 4chan 10 year+ phd ifbb pro who has coached dozens of successful professionals.

If you actually had the motivation for bodybuilding you'd show all those losers what a real bodybuilder looks like, but ofc shitposting as a fatty summerfag is more fun.

>>38143729
i can easily hit 3500 Calories a day with chicken and rice, but it's because i used to be a fat piece of shit and i still have the planet-sized appetite of one

>>38143769

You make porridge with it. A cup of whole milk for every cup of oats, throw it in the microwave for 2 mins, add fruit and nuts, done.

>>38143754
263g sugar you fucking faggot

>>38143769
anon, get yourself "instant oats", powdered like flour. mix with milk and drink that shit.. 150 gram oats with 300ml milk has ~750 calories.. put maybe 40g peanut butter in it and you have another 200kcal.. drink two shakes and you have ~2000 calories

its not easy to stay commited tho..

>>38143787
see, your problem is that you view foods as "healthy" and "unhealthy". foods are either calorie-dense or not, so if you're bulking, your "unhealthy" foods are "healthy"

>>38143924
Nutella has been sued in a shit load of countries for that commercial about it being a great start in the morning.

>>38143740
>soda
Never gonna make it

>>38143729
Ended up eating 4400 yesterday.

>>38144313
9400 mg sodium. And im trying to stay under 2000 lelelel but im cutting. Better half gallon water desu.

>>38143729
>even by drinking half a liter of milk a day
Bruh, sometimes when I'm behind I'll drink 2 one liter cartons of chocolate milk, each has 880 calories.

>>38143729
u can stick a whole stick of butter in ur foods and not notice it.. also with olive oil when ur making sauces...or cream cheese....or brown sugar...........taco bell too....

Adderall

>>38145203
limiting sodium? do you have high blood pressure or something?
it's like you don't want to be vascular and get sick pumps at the gym

>>38143729
Read >>38143794

I was always a 'hardgainer' until I learned that you need to cook recipes. The recipes can be simple but you gotta make tasty foods to eat loads.

Also IFFYM helps (if it fits your macros). EG if you gotta eat 400g carbs, get 200-300 from pasta/rice/whatever + sauce and meat and veg and oil and spices, and the remaining from ice cream/sweets/biscuits/whatever treat you want.

One of my easymode high carb recipes is blended frozen pineapple + apple, and use it as 'milk' for muesli.

>>38143744
If you cannot cook for shit, four tins of tuna on four slices of bread with a drizzle of your sauce of choice on top. I'm partial to sriracha or mustard.

If you trust yourself around cookware, a pasta dish with 400 grams of minced meat worth of meatballs. If you really wanna pile on the calories, make a huge pasta dish and use sardines instead of meat, filling the sauce with delicious olives and capers. Or about 400 grams of minced meat beat into burgers (Makes 3 patties), grilled and served with some buns and your favourite toppings. These dishes can all be done in about 10-20 minutes.
You could also make a pizza and top it with whatever. A little bit of prep work, but they can easily be around 2200 calories without much effort.
Make a good white wine sauce and pour it over 500 grams of butter-and-white-wine-poached cod with some rice (You're gonna need a fair bit of sauce or rice, or even more fish, as the fish is only about 410 kcal)

>>38143729
2 tbl spoons?

NIgga I eat half a bowl with marmalade.

450 grams of pasta
450 grams of minced pig
400 grams of bolognese pasta sauce

its like 1200 kcal bam, thats just one meal

>>38143729
>trying to bulk by eating ingredients instead of actual food
>trying to bulk on the shit a cutting diet is made of

what the fuck are you even doing

>>38143729
Try having a protein smoothie in the morning.

Frozen berries
Banana
Oats
Protein powder
Coconut Oil
Full fat yogurt

If you put a decent serving of each in, it should be least 1,000 calories. Have that for breakfast.

If you can't drink that much in one go, split it in half and have one in the morning and one in the evening.

>>38145565
Make sure to add water and ice to get the consistency you desire.

>>38143754
>all that sugar

Don't do it.

>>38143747
>ate a hold shitload of that with a bad immune system in winter
>felt like I had AIDS for the next month

>forget about it
>do it again with similar shitty, room-temp junk food
>same reaction
>start thinking I have diabetes even though I'm a 128 lbs 5'8 manlet

if it's not a hot meal it can go fuck itself
if it's nutella it can especially go fuck itself

I wanna know how people eat 2g of protein per pound of bodyweight. The fuck am I supposed to eat 500 grams of protein?

>>38143729
Cook your meats in 1 tablespoon of olive oil. That's an extra 120 calories. If you eat meat 2-3 times a day, that's an extra 250-350 calories for no extra volume.

>>38143754
LOL @ SUGAR. NIGGA WAT

>GTFO

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1000 kcals from Studentenfutter easly

>>38144478
btfo >>38144463

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>Americans don't know that they're slowly being programed by advertisements to eat more and more

>Americans are taught by commercials that they're average meal should approximate a large burger (600 kcal) large fries (700 kcal) and large drink (550 kcal times the number of (free) refills).

>Americans are being taught that they're supposed to eat approximately 1850 kcal per meal (based on above sample with no refills)

>Americans are being told by ads that they need to eat this three times a day for 5550 kcal

>Americas never find out the normal meal is about 600 kcal.

>Americans keep paying their fastfood lords to keep advertising to them

I'm an American and when I did the math, I was furious that their profit making strategy involves tricking my fellow citizens into killing themselves.

Just eat junk food like fuck and have like 3 protein shakes a day with milk lol.

>>38144514
Don't let your dreams be dreams, go out and make it a reality!

>>38144383
>almost 10 days worth of sodium

wew lad

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>>38146208

>still thinking sodium is bad

Two tall glasses of milk and four FAT pancakes and I'm at 1500 in one go... then again, I'm a natural skelly with insane metabolism so it works for me.

>>38146222
>thinking a gross excess isn't

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>>38146222
>thinking too much sodium is not bad

>>38143729
Whole grain tortillas and hummus is a good way to pack on a lot of calories w/ little to no preparation.

>>38146116
if you're this gullible you deserve it. Nothing I watch on tv is programming me, I'm not taught by commercials, I'm not a retard.

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>>38143754
>hey man you want anything at the convenience store?
>just bulk my shit up

>150g of oats
how is that a lot
>half a liter of milk
how is that a lot
>2 spoons PB
how is that even remotely a lot

>>38146295
>71 grams of sugar
>12 grams of protein

wew lad

What the fuck? That sounds like a lot of food to you?

Honestly 1/2GOMAD isn't that hard and tacks on like 1200 calories. 2 glasses in the morning, 2 in the evening. Eating very normal sized meals on top of that will easily get you to 3500.

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>>38146233
>I'm a natural skelly with insane metabolism so it works for me.
What did he mean by this

>>38143787
hey don't listen to these fucking retards

brown rice and quinoa (half and half mixed) is like 800 calories a cup and has shitloads of carbs and proton, cut up some chicken/pork/beef and toss it in that shit with some teriyaki or soy sauce? maybe a few veggies?? fucking blam-o, ~1200 calories in a perfect macro meal

Whole Grain Pasta is cheap as fuck and calorie dense, throw that in with protons of your choosing, you can do shrimp, fish, chicken, beef, pork, literally any of them. Again, you have the option for veggies, as long as you're eating appropriately sized portions its not hard to hit 1000 calories

certain cereals arent too bad in the morning, along w oats. Just eat 2 cups of whatever w some milk, thats like 600 calories right there, add a cup of yogurt for another 400, maybe toss in granola? shit is calorie dense af senpai

mass gainer shakes are a great way to supplement an extra 1000 calories a day in a hurry

idk famalam but I've gained like 25lbs over the last half year or so (ex skelly) and my body fat has actually dropped below 10% in that time too, just get some good recipes down, sauces and shit like that make all the difference imo, you can eat the same leftovers every night for a week and still enjoy every meal if you cook up a fresh sauce in 5 minutes over a stovetop and toss that shit in

kick things up a notch with your spice weasel bro

>>38146380
>My body fat has actually dropped below 10 percent
It hasn't

I really don't get this
Isn't 3k calories just a shitload? Won't you just go obesse?
I am 5'9feet and 185pounds,if I lift and eat that much won't I just be even worse?
My brain hurts

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>not eating iron man food

>>38146410
Calculate your order

I'm 6'3" 195 lbs and require just shy of 4000 kcal to bulk because I bike for transportation.

>>38146441
>>38146410
Tdee*

Anyway you most likely shouldn't bulk at all

>>38144478
>phds on bodybuilding
lol

>>38145382
2/10
Made me comment

>>38143729
>not adding four scoops

C'mon guys. You gotta do at least four scoops

>>38145051
You're an idiot

3000 kcal of soda =/= 3000 kcal of balanced protein, complex carbs, and unsat fats

>>38146455
I eat somewhere around 1700calories(at home)
and 1500-1600 at work
I'm trying to lose weight,is there even a point in lifting yet? Or do I get skinny and then start lifting?

>>38146509
I should mention I have next to no muscle, just a fag with too much weight

>>38146509
Read the sticky

Yes you should lift

>>38145111
Hopefully unsuccessfully? I'm not shill for nutella but I've read numerous studies that show anything is better than nothing. Even a donut in the morning has positive affects compared to not eating at all.

Point being, for some people, having nutella on toast in the morning is still better than how they were eating before.

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>Fast food place deliberately hides the calories of their foods in their own Nutritional documents

>>38146602
>Hopefully unsuccessfully?

I have not read the result of each lawsuit but I know that the commercial got banned, so I am pretty sure they were successfully.

You can almost always argue something is better than nothing.

e.g. a shot of vodka is a good start in the morning.

>>38146610
Any articles about that online? Sounds like a good read.

>>38144078
6'2 200lbs
Bench 250lbs
Squat 395lbs
Diddylift 450lbs
Nothing special but im tall and fairly active outside the gym which makes my maintenance pretty high.

http://allrecipes.com/recipe/213268/classic-goulash/

>2lbs 80/20 ground beef. ~2.3k calories. 181g fat. 608mg sodium. 155g protein.
>2 large onions. ~120 calories. ~2g protein.
>4x 8oz can tomato sauce. 280 calories. 280mg sodium. ~14g protein.
>2x 14.5oz diced tomatoes. 210 calories. 106mg sodium. 8g protein.
>2 cups macaroni. 780 calories. 12mg sodium. 28g protein.
Total.
>3690 calories. ~200g fat. ~1000mg sodium with no salt added, a teaspon of salt is ~2300mg of sodium. ~200g protein.

Cost to make using my own market costs, tax included.
>2lbs ground beef. Price fluctuates. Typically $3-4 per lb. Looking to spend ~$9 total.
>2lb bag of onions. Price fluctuates. Typically $3-4.
>4x 8oz tomato sauce. $2.05
>2x 14.5oz diced tomatoes. $2.12
>5lb bag of macaroni. $4.84
>1.25qt of soy sauce. $5.49
>12oz bay leaves. $3.22
>0.77oz Italian herb grinder. $2.22
>2 full cloves of garlic. $0.95
Total.
>~$33.89

This is, of course, assuming you need to buy everything. This gives you more food for more than one meal, outside of the beef.

/fit/ I beg you. Please learn how to cook.

You don't need to eat completely clean . As long as 80% of your cals come from decent sources you'll be fine.

How about you throw in a junk meal ? 800 cals of fast food for example isn't really going to have a negative effect if your other 2700 cals come from good sources

>>38143729
i literally eat more then 20000 calories each day, but i guess you mean kilocalories.
what baffles me the most is that amercians are seemingly too lazy to add the prefix 'kilo'.

>>38146509

wow that sucks kek,

I'm 176lbs and at 2000 calories a day I've been losing 1.5lbs a week, though I'm on gear so w/e.

Maintenance is at 3000 and already lost 10+ lbs in 2 months.

1700 cals maintenance at 195lbs you must be really bad at counting or you have some severe metabolic dama- "adaptation"

>>38146711
>176lbs
>cutting
>roiding

You are either dyel or a turbomanlet and you are roiding
Lmao @ ur lyfe

>>38146703
Instead of adding the k, the C is capitalized. Is it retarded? Yes. But it's the standard of measurement and has been for years. Stop being a dicksucking faggot and get over it. Different cultures do things differently, shocking I know.

1000 calories = kcal = Calorie.

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>>38146703

>>38146711
>>38146711
Hold on m8
1700 is not maintenance,that's me trying to lose weight by cutting calories
The whole meintenace thing is confusing, some calculators say 2600 at a medium activity level, does that make sense now? If I eat that much I will just put on weight I think my maintenance number is 2200 or so

>>38146727

t. 5'7 200lbs 27% BF pajeet thinking he's "big"

>>38146765
Oh and I'm 185 not 195 my bad

>>38146778

oh thought you were that other guy.

Well if you just cut and don't lift then say goodbye to your muscle mass.

If your body eats away your muscle on a cut, guess what? it ain't eating the fat away.

>Lanklets

I'd eat over 5k daily no problem just in nuts, oats, fruits and whatever if I didn't control myself, how faggots like OP exist it baffles me how nature didn't prune violently people who reject one of it's scarce resources.

T Guy's been on a cut for 2 months

>>38143754
i literally lost my shit laughing at the 263 grams of fucking sugar

>>38146295
>12g of protein
>for 670 calories

oof

>>38143754
Everyone complaining about the sugar yet the motherfucking sodium is 1770mg.

>>38147033

>1.7 grams of sodium
>per 2600 calories

how is that bad? are you a fucking idiot?

>>38143729
>>38143729
I said fuck it so now im drinking a gallon of milk, loads of peanut butter, oatmeal. Easy bruh

>>38147279
I can't in to math.

i eat 3600kcal while maintaining.

>>38143754
>38g of protein

CMON

>>38144528
I play DnD with a guy that has a 3 liter Coke per game. Not counting what he drinks at home.

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>>38146703
>kilocalories

>>38143729
just eat some Chinese food, its a tasty way to bulk with a balance of protein, carbs and fats.

Get them convenience store gains.

Nutrition Facts
Serving Size: 1 pretzel (110g)

Amount Per Serving
Calories from Fat 30 Calories 350

% Daily Values*
Total Fat 3.5g 5%
Saturated Fat 1.5g 8%
Trans Fat 0g
Cholesterol 0mg 0%
Sodium 1120mg 47%
Total Carbohydrate 70g 23%
Dietary Fiber 4g 16%
Sugars 0g
Protein 12g

Vitamin A 0% Vitamin C 0%
Calcium 4% Iron 25%

>>38147435
Kek

>>38146703
watch out guys he literally eats more than 20 kcals
a day!

>>38143729
>and even by drinking half a liter of milk a day
I drink 2L every day and I don't brag about it.

>>38143859
>2 scoops

Nigg-nog, that's one scoop in a glass of milk

>>38143729
how did you get fat enough to need 3500 calories a day then.......?

>>38146656
Same boat bro.6'2" 202lbs. It amazes me when I read guys here are cutting @1500 Cal a day, I shed fat like a mfer when I cut at 2600 and I was hungry all day long. 3k is maintenance for me

>>38149478
>>38146656

Same here. I'm 6'2" and 260. I'm kind of a fat shit but I start losing weight at anything under 3000-3200 calories a day. I just do not care at all about my bodyfat.

>>38143729

when you dont think about calories it is very, VERY easy.

>>38143859
Two scoops? You some kind of lightweight?

bulking tips:

olive oil on top of salad
olive itself
fried eggs/fried potatoes on top of your regular meal
whole milk after meal, i.e. after your stomach can't take real food

I've been eating 3500-4000 cal every day for the last 6 months and have only put on 8kg. I'll have 3 meals of 700-1000 cal, 3 shakes (450 cal each) and snacks eg. ice cream or peanut butter with bagels.

just eat normal meals plus a cheap mass gainer shake and some peanuts inbetween.

>>38149702
this is horrible. you're retarded.

>>38149765
t. chicken-breast-brown-rice-everyday-tard

It's quite simple: I drink the majority of my calories. I pretty much have to due the adhesions constricting on my small bowel. Too bad my kidneys and liver hate it.

>>38149765
no, his advice is pretty good.

>>38144383
>14,1g of sodium
Why

>>38144313
if you drank 2 gallons of water with this you would gain 20lbs instantly due to water retention

>>38143729
A burger from carl's jr is like 1200 cal on its own. Add an order of large fries to that, it's another 500 calories. Top it off with a large soda (generally another 400 calories) and you've eaten over 2000 calories in one meal.

Now eating lean and big? That's the tough part.

>>38145253
congrats on your impending dissecting aortic aneurism

>>38149925
how does pizza like that even contain that much fucking salt

like jesus christ I am trying my goddamn best to figure this out.

You'd need extra salt in EVERY ingredient.

Breakfast - 2 egg omellete with 2 rashers bacon and some low cal maple syrup

Snack - 400g greek yoghurt, 100g granola, chopped banana.

Lunch - 1x protein chilli burrito and 1x protein chicken fajita (search protein burritos on reddit fitmeals)

snack - 2xwholemeal thins with turkey/chicken, lettuce and cream cheese. I often add hotsauce or something to these.

Post workout snack - protein shake 2x scoop with 400ml full fat milk and a couple tablespoons of peanut butter.

Dinner - meat 300g, rice 250g, veg whatever.
Desert - 200g greek yoghurt with 1 tbps peanut butter, 20g crumbled dark chocolate and 1 scoop.

Supper - 2x rice cakes with 20g cream cheese and 30g salmon each. snack on sliced fruit of choice (I like mangos and peaches).


This is roughly my 4000cal diet. Its slightly off since I often throw in half a protein flapjack or another protein shake to make up cals depending on what im eating in certain meals. But yeah.

Wtf that's only like 5 chicken breasts + breakfast

>>38149925

9 grams of salt won't bloat you that much, don't be a fuckwit.

>>38143754
Jesus fuck.

Just think of all the people that had to agree to this before it could make it to market.

>Hey Bob, do you think it's alright that we're making America into blob fucking city?
>Shut up, Jim. My wallet isn't Healthy At Every Size, and I need that new Lexus, and I don't care how many kids have to get diabetes to make it happen.

>>38150197
>4000 cal

are you the spirit of andre the giant

>>38143729
>Most 3500 calorie master-race eat a lot of pasta and foods that are not very calorie dense.
>Lean Protein clean bulk
>High Calories shit bulk
Literally pick 1.

>>38143729
Nigga fuck you. Try eating chocolate, peanutbutter and cookies and see how fast you're able to eat more than 2k calories in a sitting. I can easily eat at least 6000 calories a day if I wanted to but I'd get fat real fucking fast.

>>38150248
>My wallet isn't Healthy At Every Size
Topkek

>>38146116
Need regulation to stop it, but muh freedoms...

>>38143729
eat biscuits theres 3750kcal in 700grams

>>38143844
T H I S
H
I
S

Take it from me, OP.

I have tried the dairy road
>it fails
>it fails badly
>it fails badly on a hot day
>it fails badly on a hot day in a portapotty
>it fails badly on a hot day in a portapotty while on a construction job

I have tried the sardines road
>healthy, and you should eat them regularly, but not enough fat

I have tried the powder road
>it simply shouldn't be a large part of your diet
>who knows what's honestly in most of them
>the healthy ones taste like sawdust and require you to add fruit n shit

Hard boiled eggs are literally the answer
>boil one batch and they'll keep for at least 5 days
>clean, no silverware or dishes needed
>high fat
>high protein
It is the singularity.

And it's not another meal really. It's just eggs, so you just be normal and add two eggs each day. Doesn't work? add two more. If you add six eggs to your current daily intake and still don't see weight gain then that means you're dropping calories elsewhere.

Look at your eating habit and place the eggs where you miss calories. For me I miss breakfast a lot. So I absolutely force myself to have one hard boiled egg every single morning. One ain't a lot, but it's a shit ton more than nothing. Then also between lunch and dinner I miss food so I have two hard boiled eggs around 4ish usually. If im up two or three hours after dinner I'll have one or two then as well.

>>38151802
NB: your farts will smell kind of bad but still not nearly as bad as dairy farts

Legumes
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>>38143794
you disgust me

>>38146610
>Drive up to McDonalds drive thru
>Everything has calories listed
wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow

Back when I ate fast food 3 times a day, I hit 5000cals just on meals alone.

What confuses you, exactly?

>>38143729
drinking soda passively tends to rack it up. I would go through about a liter or more a day just because I was ALWAYS sipping on it at my desk. That's like 800~ calories that aren't even a meal.

A lot of snacks are high in calories. For example I actually looked at the EL Fudge cookies and saw it's like 140 calories per 2 cookies, and I would put away an entire package in a sitting if I was not paying attention. That's like 2000K in one spot.

And then a lot of deserts and shit are huge in calories. I saw somewhere here someone was posting the content of dairy queen blizzards or maybe steak and shake milkshakes or something and they had something insane like 1000 calories each.

If you're not counting it's super easy to go super high.

>>38152697
One day on a bulk I forgot to eat and was down 1600 cals, I drove to baskin robbins and got one large peanut butter milkshake for the entire deficit

>>38143729
If you can afford it, snack on nuts. Use extra oil when you're cooking. Grate some cheese on your meals. Have a second protein shake, they're about 500cal with whole milk and 2 scoops of brotein. Bake some protein brownies and have a couple a day. Eat tinned tuna with oil, not spring water.
There's heaps of ways to add calories to food. Maybe check out /ck/, those fat fucks'll have some great advice I'm sure.

>>38152729
Yeah, shit like that. Now that I'm actually reading labels and seeing what I'm eating, it's crazy.

I mean, if you're just looking to get a shitload of calories it's pretty easy. But I'm thinking OP is looking for clean bulking.

>>38146772
I'm 6'2 and aryan nice try little man why not post your height?

>>38152729
Does that even 'count' though? I think that would just come out as diarrhea within 6 hours, for me at least.

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>>38152953
Lol Superior Slav reporting in at 6 ft 10.
Come at me little Blondy!

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>>38143747
literally this

up the sugars and fast carbs post workout