Okay thanks for the blog, Elliot

>get /fit/
>get /fa/
>able to talk to girls without spaghetti
>don't have any motivation to pursue anyone
>still feeling tfw no gf

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>get fit according to normies but not to my own or fit standards
>be fa according to normies and my own standards
>no gf
>get mindless sex with good looking strangers without trying

>>38112432
it's all about confidence and resistance to rejection, srsly

>>38112432
No amount of /fit/ and /fa/ can fix a /shitty personality/, OP

>>38112500
>>38112504
Did you guys read those bullshit surveys saying women only care about confidence?

>>38112494
Its good that you got /fa/ by your own standards. The basics of /fa/ are great but when you go deeper and see those inspo threads, you wonder how the hell some of those clothes look good

>>38112511
Did you?

>>38112432
>he hasn't gone /hm/
that's your problem

>>38112511
Literally everyone knows confidence is everything

>>38113702
So a 4/10 guy can get a 10/10 girl by being confident?

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>>38113702
>just bee urself

>>38113885
well he won't get her by not trying you fucking retard

>>38113986
You don't sound confident in your arguement :)

>>38112500
>>38112511
>>38113702
>>38113885
>>38113986
>>38114143

anon is correct, as long as you're not ugly or odd looking to the point of that being someone's first thought, you are fine.

Your fear that you are being judged and rejected immediately, your insecurities sniffed out is ultimately just that, and easy way to understand this is to consider how you think and judge those in your life, to a great extent you shouldn't, and "embarassments", quirks, oddities or whatever of other people are soon forgotten in the great scheme of "me", your personality is just a mask you can craft into any shape you want.

source: was always generally a shy, reclusive guy.
Moved around / exchange trips and decided to try crafting new personalities - if you smile at someone and look them in the eyes and seem confident there is no doubt in their mind that this is you.

Faking it is making it faggots.

>be me
>get insanely /fit/ through painstaking work and effort
>6'5" 250lbs at 15%
>approach women in bars
>20% of them scream outright and another 30% threaten to call the police (I've had the police called on me 3 times just for approaching people)
>30% are curious and ask if I'm a pro wrestler/actor but are otherwise uninterested
>remaining 20% retreat to girl circle and reject outright
Sure was a good idea getting big and strong thanks for the life advice /fit/....

>>38114399
You black/brown?

>>38114399
>be me
>7/10 girl through genetics and cosmetics
>5'8
>drinking at bar waiting for Julia to arrive
>huge fat guy in a wifebeater is suddenly behind me breathing heavily
>e-ever been with a r-real man? he says
>excuse me?
>haHAA ur pretty cute
>tell him to fuck off or I'll call the cops
>he starts exhaling loudly and runs out of the bar
>post later on fb about bar creeps
Sure was a good thing getting that rap whistle, too many weirdos out there...

>>38114399

so the memes were wrong????///

women couldn't possibly give a shit about your body?

wtf i hate women now....

>>38114449
White but I do come from Turkroach descent.

>>38114463
REEEEEEEE I LISTED MY BF% I'm not fat and I know how to dress and act.

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>>38114399
>>38114463

>>38114539
You're enough of a big guy that you don't have to worry at all about impressing women, in fact it sounds like you might need to learn how to soften yourself up a bit so you don't scare the shit out of people. This is going to some counter to most everything /fit/ will tell you but learn how to laugh at yourself and get others to laugh with you. I'm 6'3" and I learned pretty quickly that the best way to get women and manlets to loosen up around you is to making fun of yourself a little.

>>38114489
Women, and really everyone, want someone that makes them happy. There's millions of women and millions of ways to make them happy.

>>38114277
yes, you can look them in the eyes and smile

but how do you talk with them? that's the hard part. my mind always goes blank

>>38114539
you a muslim/genocide denier?

>>381148999
talking isn't just something you can fake per say, atleast, you can't have a conversation whilst simultaneously not caring about the conversation.

You have to learn to take interest, to want to understand someone, their interests, their background, who they are, if you're actually looking to make meaningful conversation this is necesary, if you just want to pick up sloots it still works - conversing must be as a ways for you understanding and learning about another person, not just to fill in time.

You will not immediately become a God at conversations, socialising like any skills takes practice, time and effort. In the grand scheme, even in the small scheme of things an awkward conversation is nothing, first and foremost though you need to get that thought out of your head, it isn't about you, it is about the person you are interested in.

You would be absolutely surprised how little holding conversations has to do with being an interesting person but with having an interest in persons. Humans are prideful and self invested animals, they love to talk about themselves, especially to someone who is receptive.

This is why interest is so important, we all know how dull conversations for conversations sake can be - how are you / what are you up to / so you're studying now? They are meaningless placeholders.

Hi, I'm X / how often do you come out here? / do you live around here / oh really, what are you studying? / english is such an interesting subject, do you lean more to creative writing or the analytical side / how many years in are you?

If you show interest you'll not only convince them but yourself.

A good book is How To Win Friends and Influence People, however take it with a grain of salt, and don't focus too heavy on the manipulation side, especially with conversations.

Just keep trying anon, just like you did with lifting, and gains will come.

You can make it breh.

>>38114899
to you
>>38115016

>>38112432
>got /fit/
>got /fa/
>can't get laid
>decide to fuck it and do whatever the hell I want
>disregard bitches

Simply not giving a fuck about that shit is the best that I could do
Now I can focus on shit that really matters

>>38115165
like posting here, top fucking kek bra

>>38112432
Are you ugly? Are you socially retarded? If not, and you're an average dude it pretty much is a numbers game. You've gotta keep approaching women.

>>38115165
>>38115176
absolutely BTFO

>still not /fit/
>afraid to approach women
>no /fa/ sense at all wear whatever feels comfy/handy
>still feel bad for no GF despite using dating sites
>more busy with other stuff to actually feel bad about it
>use hate for fatties and by extension self-hate as motivation
>feel surprisingly good about this

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>>38114277
My normie friends say the exact same thing followed with a "just talk to em man"

A friend's gf was hellbent on wingmanning me, I got furious and asked if my sex life is some sort of fun game to her
Since then nobody ever tried to impose their unwarranted "help" to me

your advice is shit, there is no easy way out and turning yourself inside out over night will only leave you bitter at the rest of the world that fell in love with your fake personality

>>38113885
I saw confidence lets you get 3 points above your average. So a 4/10 can theoretically at best get a 7/10.

But see being a 4/10 guy getting a 7/10 is to him getting a super model.

>>38115176
casting stones etc

don't get the idea that I am a full time 4chan poster whose full attention is on a meme lifting board

>>38115332
Seems like bro science to me anon
So if i am 7/10 face, 8/10 body i can get to 10/10 just by this`?

>tfw personality perseveres above all else
>tfw years of depression and social anxiety made me a boring mindless drone that feels no pleasure or excitement anymore
>tfw girls are interested at first but they soon cut me off and move on to the other guys


;-;

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>>38115319

>>38115319
When does a personality become "real"? When you hate yourself?

>>38112432
Sounds like you need national socialism!

>>38115319
t. incapable of understanding results are not instantaneous

you think there will be some magic fix overnight, that you can continue to be an autist and then blame others when you're not, this is why you will always fail.

You seem like a bitter cunt, to many people sex can be a fun and playful thing, if you were competent you would have been able to explain this is not the case for you.

Never did I say there was an easy way out, nor an immense transformation overnight, contrarily I said the opposite over and over.

A personality is a personality, real emotions are not fake by the way they are crafted, in fact to transform yourself solely by your own will, to your own way is much more admirable than to continue your existence as the ideological driven mental manlet you've been conformed to by innate experience.

Enjoying others companies is not some trick, interest is not a spell, it is an aspect of life to be developed. If you choose not to you can only blame yourself when you are bitter, there is nothing wrong with a happy recluse, but you so desire something you show no interest in achieving.

Man up or kys

>>38112432

How to get /fa/? When I visit /fa/ I only see some faggot shit, what is good manly style? Pls help.

>>38115451
surely not when you change to please others

looks like personalities to you are shoes that you slip on and off whenever you please huh

you're not in a game so keep it real

>>38115509
t. rhetoric based on miniscule details to avoid actual reflection

>>38115509
anon please he's already dead

>>38115533
Please continue not to address anything and misconstrue my points, change for the sake of societal conformity is ill advised. If you think your personality is some stout, immaterial essence to be kept guard you're invested in too many spooks to change for a good cause.

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>>38113702
It is. Women want a confident man. You'd get a lot of /fit/ beta cucks that are extremely insecure and not confident. That's why you see so many of them trying to show off and be autistic. Insecurities are loud, confidence is silent. Never forget that.

Just because you think he's an ugly beta doesn't mean she does and that's all that matters. Ironically, you're probably the beta.

So, this guy is right. Confidence is key.

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>>38112432
>get /fit/
>wear nice clothes
>none of this matters because text game is weak as fuck.
You'd think I'd be good at replying to texts from all the shitposting I do across the chainz?
Nope, I can't charm a girl through text to save my life.

>>38114277
>>38115509
seems fruitless to help autists friendo

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>>38112432
Getting /fit/ is a no brainer, but if you dress like /fa/ as a 20-something year old man you deserve to have an adult bully.

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>>38115511
Just trust them desu.

This "/fa/ doesn't know anything about fashion, /mu/ doesn't know anything about music, /lit/ doesn't know anything about books...etc..." thing is just a meme.

If you lift for waifus you ll be disappointed about how little they care about /fit/ guys.
If you lift for yourself you become fit for a serious reason plus women will slowly start getting interested in u.
Theres nothing hotter than a determined man with a plan.

>>38112432
Your problem is that you're still autist.
How do I know that? I'm projecting.

>>38115533
>surely not when you change to please others
>looks like personalities to you are shoes that you slip on and off whenever you please huh
>implying any of that

What is it that you're looking for? If you want something and aren't getting it, there's a reason for that. That requires something to change. Either you or everyone else. I wouldn't hold my breath for the latter, so that means you have to be proactive. If you're unhappy, the best way to stay unhappy is to keep doing what you're doing. It isn't "changing to please others" when the person who stands to gain the most from that change is YOU.

Do you know what a personality is? It isn't some static, innate thing you're born with. It's built on experience. It's a feedback loop of reactions that help you deal with life. The more times you react a certain way that "works", the more ingrained and automatic that reaction becomes. The only way to break out of it is to react differently. And react differently and keep reacting differently because that's how a personality forms in the first place.

That initial change in reaction will be uncomfortable, there's no doubt about that, but it will become natural with repetition. You have to judge for yourself if this very temporary discomfort is worth the results. Don't cling to that old bullshit that "it's just who I am!". If you have half a brain in your head, you have a choice. You seem like you have at least that, so use it to think up "how can I?" instead of "why can't I?".

>>38115509
Fuckin a anon

>>38114277
>>38115509
>>38115852
Preach

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>girl messages me on Facebook
>we go on a date On Thursday
>we have a good time
>smiley faces afterwards in texts
>didn't respond to my text yesterday

FUCK WHY WONT SHE TEXT ME GOD DAMN IT

>>38113885
Yep. I've seen it. Some nerdy kid that was so smart he pulled the 10/10's daily in highschool. Lucky bastard

>>38115653
It's good to have it out there for anyone not so far gone who might otherwise be convinced by him that it's hopeless.

>>38115933
Just tell her 'pls respond'.

Works every time.

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>>38114399
Being 250 at 10% isn't what women want anon. They want this.

>>38115319
retard

>>38115319
You could fuck her instead anon, have some dranks and be funny.

>>38112432
>not even /mindless_sex_with_strangers/

I used to think that before it was offered. Went to a boarding school and realized I just couldn't do it, not with those sluts. I have standards.

They called me the weird guy with principles.

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>>38112432
I literally know that feel OP.

I'm even going to school to be a doctor and girls still ignore me when I wear a labcoat.

WHAT THE FUCK DO WOMEN WANT?

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>>38117255
why would you think a labcoat would get you girls

>>38117311
Because people who usually wear labcoats are doctors or labtechs and both make good money(especially Dr)

>>38112432
Getting all of those doesn't fix /asp/ergers

>>38114899
One thing to keep in mind here: It's a 2-way street. The pressure isn't all on you to keep a conversation going, it's on both of you. So if the other person is interested in talking to you, they'll ask questions too. If it feels like you're doing all the work, they're probably not very interested in talking to you. So don't feel bad that you couldn't get a conversation going with them. Both people in a conversation have to want to talk to each other. With that in mind, just keep the question simple and from there, you can gauge their level of interest.

You have a really awful personality if you look good enough to be /fa/ and /fit/ approved and be alone

>>38115933
Same thing is happening to me rn anon, gonna bump this post asking others to please share their wisdom on this predicament. Why do women do this, /fit/? And what can we do about it in our situations?

>>38112432
Did it occur to you that you're a shitty person?

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>>38114539
>White but I do come from Turkroach descent.

>>38114463
I dont get what youre trying to say here.. you told a fat creep to fuck off.. ok so?

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>>38118910
Fuck man me too... this girl and i have something special.... why the fuck are women like this?? .... is this why monks become monks?

>>38112432
>get /fa/

well there's your problem

y'all looking for unicorns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QueiHJLV8S4

>>38115621
You just can't tell, that guy IS good looking, he has high protruding cheekbones. Women like bone structure.

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>>38114539
>White but I do come from Turkroach descent.

One of the best posts I've read all year

>>38115933
>>38118910

Let me guess... You didn't try to kiss her during the date or try to take her home? If yes, then in her eyes you were too slow in making a move and now she is afraid things might be awkward if you continue seeing each other.

>>38114899
Easily. You just need to train yourself. You don't get big in the gym by going there once, right? The only way how to learn how to talk to girls is simple repetition. You go out there, at least twice a week to try and hit on a random girl, and you keep doing it until you're good at it. The first month it's nothing but sperging out and spaghetti explosions, but no matter. To get good you must push yourself.

>>38120588
Nigga would slay if he wasn't a skelly and took care of his hair and skin.

>>38112432
you wll have to leave /r9k/ first

>>38113885
yes, it happens so many times

you dont have to be good looking to get laid, you dont need to be ripped

i learnt this early on when an acquaintance who had acne and was below average in looks (but extremely social and outgoing and confident) was getting laid more than the quiet friend of mine who is extremely good looking

the looks draw in the girls attention, but if all you have is looks thats probably still not enough

Find your own definitions of the things you identify with and own it, instead of making yourself in the image of society make yourself in the image of your own interests/passions

>>38114539
Turkroach abi, you must let the sloots come to you

>>38113885
> So a 4/10 guy can get a 10/10 girl by being confident

Don't act like you haven't seen that one charismatic fatty pulling bitches and having women laugh around him


Let me tell you.Charm, timing, and being humorous is all you need
If you can make a girl laugh, you will go far.

>>38112432
you shouldnt have gotten fat

>>38117311
doctors = money

>>38114950
Armenians are scum

>>38114399
Bet you're an ugly cunt

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if i can have a threesome while being a 4/10 highschooler anyone can

lifting isnt important for sex dude, focus on your charisma and selfconfidence

Lift more. You're probably not /fit/

>>38120699
We kissed first date, everything was great. Then she just dropped off

Charisma absolutely can, and should be trained/worked on.

>>38112432
Daily reminder that lifting doesnt cure autism. (itll also make you catch the gay if you do it too much)

>>38121768
Plumbers and welders make more than doctors lmao

>Getting in shape is equal to buying some new clothes

Who came up with this meme? Also posting on a fashion board literally makes you a fag, no matter what.

>>38122637
15min a day just you and a mirror, we make faces all day and often have NO idea how we come off

>>38122754

does this actually work? like practicing making faces?

>>38115016
I like you anon. Very genuine words.
>>38122637
>>38122754
Bros, is there a place for talking about this? I never realized how much I wanted this advice. My social life is so pathetic

>>38112432
you cant change who you are and how you think stop trying or kys

>>38122122
i stumbled into a 4some as a 4/10 skelly with 0 game my 1st year of college

but it was with hideous bitches that would make me vomit had i gone through with it.

the trick is getting these sexual escapades to happen with actually *attractive* females