>tfw you bulk for a year and look the same w-when I cut I

Welcome to natty gains

>>38013038
Fuck this is depressing
I'm starting a 4 week cut and going to bulk for a whole year again

>>38013019
Your chest definitely got a little bigger but your arms and shoulders are still pathetic. Actually looks like your traps got smaller but might just be angle or pose. Can't determine your legs.

All in all, you had a shitty bulk and you should learn that you needto eat plenty of calories if you wanna get big and stronk.

>>38013092
You still look better than most people mane, you have the body most girls want, not sure why you are complaining

>>38013133
He's seeking improvement. Being stuck at "good enough" isn't good enough for most people.

>>38013019
what was your routine? how much weight did you gain? how much did your lifts go up?

>>38013106
My legs are 23-14inches
Calves are 16 inches

I always did my arm exercises last.

>>38013133
I just want to be bigger mane

chest and delt progress tho

you call that a bulk?
you cant stay lean if you want to make real gains

>>38013187
>I just want to be bigger mane
Just wondering, how long have you been working out and what are your stats for bf%, weight and height. Ever calculated your FFMI? If it's around 23 or above it might just be that's as big as you can get naturally.

>>38013019
How big was your caloric surplus?

>>38013019
Dude, I wanna look like you.
Mirin` (no homo)

>>38013019
>bulk for a year
>gained 3kgs max
100 calories surplus bulk?

>>38013170
>what was your routine?
I did an Upper/Lower/Upper/Lower/Upper
then switched to Lower/Upper/Lower/Push/Pull in April

>how much weight did you gain?
Went from 132lb to 156lb

>how much did your lifts go up?
Squat 92.5kg > 120kg
Bench 62.5kg > 84.4kg

Deadlift was always done after Squats so I don't measure that.
For shoulders I always did dumbbells and have now switched to ohp.
I guess I didn't focus on strength enough

>>38013187
>My legs are 23-14inches
23-24*

>>38013229
>how long have you been working out
2 years

>what are your stats for bf%, weight and height
bf% 15%
weight: 156lb
height: 5'7

My ffmi is 20.9 lol

>>38013239
>How big was your caloric surplus?
Made sure to gain about 2lb per month.
I went from 132lb to 156lb

>>38013019
I notice a difference, but not a huge one. You've probably been too precious about muh abs and not bulked quite as hard as you could have. How did your lifts go? Add much to them?

>>38013414
So you didn't actually track your calories?

>>38013019
F O R E A R M S

>>38013019
whats your bench, deadlift/squat OHP?

>>38013106
He's flaring his lats you fucking idiot

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>>38013019
>tfw still a wristlet

Chest bigger, back much bigger,
abs much bigger.
Your bulk worked you cunt.

>>38013414
Seems like you tried to do a lean bulk and you got the expected outcome: Optimized muscle to fat gain ratio, compromized absolute muscle gain.

>>38013476
>looks like your traps got smaller but might just be angle or pose
>pose
chill out

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>>38013492
I know that feel.

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>>38013432
>You've probably been too precious about muh abs and not bulked quite as hard as you could have.

I bulked on 3450 calories. 300-400 above maintenance

>>38013439
I did
>pic related

>>38013457
>whats your bench, deadlift/squat OHP?
My current at working sets at 156lb are:
Bench: 70kg 5x5 @82.5% of 1RM
Squat: 100kg 3x5 @82.5% of 1RM
Deadlift: 102.5kg 3x5 (Done after squats so I'm not maxing hard. Double overhand conventional)
OHP: 35kg 4x7 @72% of 1RM

>>38013522
>Seems like you tried to do a lean bulk and you got the expected outcome: Optimized muscle to fat gain ratio, compromized absolute muscle gain.

Does this mean lean bulking is a meme?

>>38013019
you look bigger, pham. Mirin' hard. decent progress for a year and natty

>>38013562
I dunno man. Looks like you've reached your genetic limit.

Now you either become a fraud or live with the fact that you'll never get bigger.

>>38013653
>Looks like you've reached your genetic limit.

Dude I've only been lifting for 2 years

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Since no one else seems to want to say looks like I will have to.

You say you've been working out for 2 years, I've checked your lifts and they're fucking pathetic.

Don't get me wrong OP, we all grow at different rates, have different goals etc...... but the fact that you have a 1rm of 120kg for your squat for example after 2 years of training is fucking ridiculous.

If you want o get more muscular, how about increasing the weight you lift?

>>38013019
How do I get big forearms?

>>38013562
>I bulked on 3450 calories
u wot m8? Im literally eating fucking 2400 cals, walk around hungry all the time, my strength is slowly going up but im afraid to up the cals because i don't want to get fat. I kind of look like you in the after bulk pic

>>38013562
you look pretty decent for having such bad stats

>>38013562
How tall are you?
156 seems pretty light

>>38013562
Wtf what height are you I lift more than you and I look like a fucking spooky skellington wtf fit you told me if I got strong I would get BIG WTF

>>38013725
strength =/= size

>>38013759
How do I be big I've been skinny af all my life pls help me

>>38013167
i think you mean few*

>>38013698
>You say you've been working out for 2 years, I've checked your lifts and they're fucking pathetic.

Yeah I know I never focused too much on strength, I did high volume.
In my new routine (the one I started in April) I'm focusing more on strength

>>38013707
I was underweight my whole life. I also walk to and from the gym. Maybe that's why I need to eat that much

>>38013709
>you look pretty decent for having such bad stats
I agree

>>38013711
>How tall are you?
5'7

>>38013725
>Wtf what height are you I lift more than you and I look like a fucking spooky skellington

I'm 5'7.
I always made sure to keep strict form not just throw weight around. Maybe you need to work on your form?

>>38013766
do sticky reads xFailure

>>38013786
>I did high volume. In my new routine (the one I started in April) I'm focusing more on strength
i assumed this was the case
same height as you and your chest looks pretty much the same as mine but my 1rm bench is 120

>>38013019

You don't look the same you body dismorphic faggot. You only neglected your arms.

>>38013019

what are you arms measures?

you progressed well man, you probably look bigger irl, photos can deceive you

Your back and chest look much bigger, even with an angle that doesn't show it that much. Don't measure all your progress by the size of your arms bruh, and if you're gonna do that, then do some curls or something so you don't get unmotivated.

>>38013698
I skimmed over that part but you're right, he looks massive for such lifts. OHP is good and bench is just okay. Mindblowing that he has such nice pecs from benching 70kg though. Did you write your lifts properly OP? 70kg is barely above 1 plate. Good on you if that's correct, nice genetics. Squats & DL are way too low but those aren't the lifts that make you look big.

>>38013562

You're moving bitch weight, that's why you're not getting bigger. For lifting for 2 years you should be significantly stronger.

Source: somebody lifting less time than you who's stronger and has a higher FFMI than you.

>>38013019
you look slightly bigger, like you gained 2kg but also look fatter plus your body looks more disproportionate b ecause your arms are way too small for your torso

>>38013562
Manlet stats

>>38013414
>Squat 92.5kg > 120kg
>Bench 62.5kg > 84.4kg
kek

>>38013562

Mirin that streak, currently at 222 days

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>>38013842
>You don't look the same you body dismorphic faggot. You only neglected your arms.

I always did my arm exercises last.
Could that be the case?

>>38013844
>what are you arms measures?
13.5 inches but sort of look bigger
>pic related

>>38013896
>Your back and chest look much bigger
I agree

>>38013897
>. Did you write your lifts properly OP?
Yes.

This is the routine I started following since April

>Intermediate (Day 1) - Lower
Squat 3 x 3-5 (82-87.5% of 1RM, RPE: 8-9)
Deadlift 3 x 3-5 (82-87.5% of 1RM, RPE: 8-9)
DB Forward Lunges 3 x 5-7 (RPE: 6-7)
Leg Ext 3 x 6-8 (RPE: 7-8)
Standing Calf 4 x 6-8 (RPE: 7-8)

>Intermediate (Day 2) - Upper
Barbell Bench 5 x 3-5 - (82-87.5% of 1RM, RPE: 8-9)
Barbell Rows 4 x 4-6 - (RPE: 8-9)
Standing OHP 4 x 5-7 - (72-77.5% of 1RM , RPE:7-8)
Close Grip Lat Pulldown 3 x 6-8 - (RPE: 7-8)
Tricep Pushdowns 3 x 8-12 - (RPE: 7-8)
Barbell Curls 3 x 4-6 - (RPE: 7-8)
Hammer Curls 3 x 4-6 (RPE 7-8)

>Intermediate (Day 3) - Lower
Romainian Deadlift 3 x 6- 8 - 70-75% of 1RM, RPE: 7-8
Leg Press 3 x 6-8 - 70-75% of 1RM, RPE 7-8
DB Forward Lunges 3 x 8-12 - RPE 6-7
Leg Extension 3 x 8-12 - RPE: 7-8
Leg Curl 3 x 8- 12 - RPE: 7-8
Leg Press Calf Raise 4 x 12-15 - RPE: 7-8

>Intermediate (Day 4) - Push
Standing OHP 3 x 6-8 (70-75% of 1RM, RPE: 7-8)
Barbell Bench 3 x 6-8 (70-75% of 1RM , RPE: 7-8)
Dips 3 x 8-12 (RPE: 7-8)
Single arm tricep pushdowns 2 x 12-15 (RPE: 7-8)
Flys 3 x 12-15 (RPE: 7-8)

>Intermediate (Day 5) - Pull
DB row 3 x 6-8 (RPE: 7-8)
Close Grip Lat Pulldowns 3 x 6-8 (RPE: 7-8)
Weighted Back Extensions 3 x 8-12 (RPE: 7-8)
Barbell Curls 2 x 8-12 (RPE: 7-8)
Hammer Curl 1 x 8-12 (RPE: 7-8)
Face Pull 2 x 12-15 (RPE: 7-8)

>>38013918
>You're moving bitch weight, that's why you're not getting bigger.
What do you think of my new routine posted above?
It's Eric Helms' Intermediate Routine.

>>38013946
My arms look like shit relaxed. I should prioritise them

>>38013988
>Manlet stats
What can I do bruh

>>38014029
Keep at it bruh

>>38013019

mirin pecs insertions

my pecs look like tits kek

>>38014263

you have very good insertions man, i'm 5'6" and i have 14.2 inches arms and I look smaller than your pic

you don't look the same and if you think you do you have body-dysmorphia

>>38013414
You're like 9-11% in that picture

>>38014336
>you don't look the same and if you think you do you have body-dysmorphia

I don't think I look the same I think I look the same size just a bit fatter

>>38014349
Nah it's all lighting dude. My waist is 27-28 inches on the left and 32.5 inches on the right

>>38014329
>i'm 5'6" and i have 14.2 inches arms and I look smaller than your pic

Maybe you're not flexing correctly?

Your bulk body is my goal bf, also you're not very tall which is a good thing for me. Are you into ddlg?

You're perfect

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>>38014492
Faggot

>>38013414
156 lbs? You must be an ultra manlet

>>38013019
Compared to the pic on the right, the left one looks like a hungry skeleton. Nice job, dude.
Keep working on your arms, though.

>>38013019
Fuck, op, you got me scared. Everybody was like "you got shit stats for two years lifting", I was like "fuck, i got similar stats, wth".

Then I realised you were a fucking midget.

>>38014492
>Your bulk body is my goal bf, also you're not very tall which is a good thing for me. Are you into ddlg?

Kek

>>38014512
>404 arms not found >>38014263
They look like shit relaxed and unpumped.
I'm going to start my Upper day with Barbell Curls and Hammer Curls from next week maybe that helps

>>38014679
>156 lbs? You must be an ultra manlet
I'm 5'7 and have small joints

>>38014689
>Compared to the pic on the right, the left one looks like a hungry skeleton. Nice job, dude.
>Keep working on your arms, though.

I hope they grow dude lol

>>38014825
>Everybody was like "you got shit stats for two years lifting", I was like "fuck, i got similar stats, wth".
>Then I realised you were a fucking midget.

So you got similar stats and are taller?

>>38014888
You're beautiful

>>38013019
Bigger chest you retard

>>38015107
>Bigger chest you retard
Come to think of it now I see it for a bit but my arms/shoulders look the same

>>38014888
20cm taller than you, midget.

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>>38015533
>mad lanklet detected
>pic related is you with your 1/2/3/4 stats

>>38013210
Here's your (You).

>>38015567
sadly, so true :'(

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>He fell for the cutting meme

>>38015883
What?

>>38014263
too much torso isolation, too less arm volume

>>38017195
So Eric helms is clueless now?

>>38013562
You're so small because you're so weak. You've reached near optimal hypertrophy for how much actual muscle fiber you have