Is there any point to taking preworkout? Serious question, isn't

>>37991444
There is zero reason to take a preworkout unless you need a kick in the ass to get off the couch and into the gym. It won't do anything for your gains by itself.

For those who need that kick in the butt they are indispensable though.

>>37991444
Its good for motivation, recovery and improves the length of time you can workout.

People who say "duuuh just take caffeine" have never had a decent pre workoit.

>>37991444
Beta alanine is good plus the creatine if you're not already taking it. Also 600mg is a lot of caffeine.

>>37992127
>Its good for motivation, recovery and improves the length of time you can workout

Explain.

Ps you can buy all the shit in your preworkout for a fraction of the cost and make your own pre-workout.

>>37991444
Not really.

The best preworkouts are basically:

Good taste + Creatine nitrate + a lot of caffeine + a bunch of other bullshit you can buy yourself

I personally need preworkout. I get tired (like straight up sleepy) easily without it. Try it, if ya like it great, use it. If it doesn't help than fuck it don't use it.

Yes, it's mostly just caffeine.

It works great the first few times you take it, but as with any caffeine product, you'll build up a tolerance to it, making it less effective over time.

Pre workout is one of those things that either work for you or dont. Caffiene isnt very effective on me. I love the beta alanine and creatine in it.

>all these fags itt who don't scream or slap themselves inbetween sets to wake the cns...
Enjoy being a little a bitch with no self made motivation and needs placebos to function kek

>>37992351
kali muscle pls go

>>37992127
>implying you ever had a PWO with caffeine and DMAA
PWO these days suck ass and are the same as a cup of coffee with some tingles and vasodilation thrown in

No, there isn't. I used to take it. Just drink coffee and stop shooting up your caffeine tolerance so high that you need to take powder made up of chemicals you don't even know.

That or enjoy your heart attack. Pre is just a meme.

>>37992243
>Ps you can buy all the shit in your [X] for a fraction of the cost and make your own [Z].
this can be said for almost anything though. people pay for convenience

>>37992410
>this can be said for almost anything though. people pay for convenience

Kind of but not really.

Some things you can't make yourself, for example creating your own creatine or whey protein is nearly impossible.

But buying a bunch of powders, some fruit juice and mixing it together and make "preworkout" is easy and tons of people do it.

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>>37992428
that's why i added the "almost" modifier you dense nigger

>>37992455
Well that's what i'm saying you fucking faggot

It's not much more convenience

>>37992477
did i quantify the amount of convenience people would pay for, clownshoes? i'll blast your booty to kingdom come

>>37992539
fuck you faggot i'll overhead squat you then dump you forwards and kill you

I cut out coffee only because I take preworkout. Only reason I take it because it's a real bitch to get up at 5am to get those gains

>>37992384
>tfw still have like 20 grams of DMAA in my apartment

I just take l-arginine and l-citrulline before working out. I don't use any thing fancy.

>>37992764
i used to make my own caps of caffeine and DMAA
>autist mode in the gym
great as a partydrug too

>>37991444
a lot of anons have already said it but its good to get people off their ass and lift shit but after a while it just becomes a way to tell your muscles "hey time to wake up" and you dont really get that "holy shit im going to die" pins and needles feeling

also dont fall for the c4 meme, shit is overpriced and makes you crash super fuckin hard. out of everything ive tried, hyde is my favorite. still get a buzz, dont crash, and good flavors

>>37992779
that's pretty dumb, l-citrulline does the same thing as l-arginine but better

I don't think C4 works for me

It says take 1 scoop, I took 4 scoops and felt nothing, no tingles or anything

They're not necessary at all. At the same time, if I'm tired, little sleep, calorie deficit...etc... I'm at the gym yawning between sets, I'm not going to get a good workout. Sometimes I'm just tired, I never put up more weight or make a pr on those days.

Now I take a pre with that dimethyl whatever crap that used to be in jack3d before some retard died. If I'm tired I take a scoop, and while I'm at the gym I'm alert and focused. Used to take adderall for adhd when I was in high school years ago, a good pre is like that except the focus is on lifting.

When you're energetic and focused you have a better workout. Also my pre is very cheap, $20 for 45 servings, so while I'm cutting I might take a scoop for energy and appetite suppression. It can even get me in mood for cardio. The only bad thing is that it's easy to get tolerance, so I don't use it always.

The pump pres or whatever, I never felt much benefit from. I tried one loaded with magnesium and got horrible diarrhea when I used it. Even shit myself doing squats once, cause 2 scoops of volume explode or whatever is like ipecac for your butthole. My cheeks were clapping together like a Persian rug being beaten with a carpet beater. I dropped the weight cuz I went unsteady and the bar rolling on the safety rack crushed my thumb. Everyone was looking at me, horrible, retailer wouldn't refund me for their snake oil shitpants mount Vesuvius Satan juice. Just not worth it, didnt feel much of a pump either.

Anyways, stimulant pres can be worth it, though I wouldn't pay much more than 0.50 a serving, and if it's just caffeine, save your money and make coffee or buy caffeine pills. Don't recommend other types.

>>37992792
Hyde is good but didn't they ban one of the ingredients?

I heard Meth Lab is good too, by tlm research

>>37992868
looking at my container it looks like there was a reformulation to get rid of the picamilon (quick google search says it was a date rape thing)

The only worthwhile ones are the ones with dmaa

>>37991444
I used to take pre workouts, but it honestly doesn't do shit. Protein + Creatine + BCAAs are really all you need.

>>37993742
Bcaas are a rip. Just eat more protein.

>>37993572

When Trump is president, we'll have DMAA in the fucking cereal and everything else.

We will make America great again by burning the fucking socialist liberals, and get the fucking lazy potheads sent back to Mexico & Canada.

>>37991488
>>37992127
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>>37992243
/cunt

Pre has been a great contributor of gains for me. I work outside on my feet all day in the sun and heat. When I get home I'm almost never in the mood to lift. I used to take 250mg caf, 5 gr beta alanine, 8 gr bcaa. Yes sir I was able to crank out some of the best workouts in my life. Was given a bottle of Jym pre workout as a gift recently. Super expensive but it's really good so far. I'm going to start taking more beta al on the side I only get effects from high dose.

>>37992550
kek

>>37994450
>1,3 DIm in cereal

>TIME TO START THE DAY MOTHERFUCKERS! YEAHHHH!
>no talking just straight focus on the road the entire drive to work, barely even blinking

Holy shit DO IT!

>>37991444
I get it because I have money. Only poorfags that cant afford it say you dont need it.

>>37992827
C4 is the lowest ranked pre-workout drink

>>37992764
DMAA isn't that hard to findthese days