Is PPLxPPL literally the fucking god tier of routines for mass

because this is mostly a board for beginner lifters (look at the heavy focus on SS/SL and the likes) and PPL is an intermediate routine

Because on ppl your strength is kill

>>37747142

Because it's 6 days a fucking week. I have a goddamn life outside of the gym. Goddamn. You fucking wanker. Fuck.

>>37747165
How exactly ?

Maybe your diet or sleep is shit but i would say most of my big lifts go up about 5kg every 8 weeks or so.

>>37747177
can vouch for this, my strength progressed very slowly when i switched to PPL, have been in a deficit for 6 months now and strength has crashed hard (as expected) but i've also maintained almost all of my muscle whilst cutting

made sick muscle mass gains for the 1+ year i was in a surplus

i look like i should be a lot stronger than what i actually am. maybe it's just genetics? i don't know.

>>37747191
>>37747177

meant to reply to OP, woops.

>>37747171
Drop a leg day and its 5

>>37747142
PPLxPPLx
4 days of rest for each muscle group
Push and pull days should be upper body exclusive (no deads on pull, etc.)
Having a decent periodization/progression scheme, taking deloads and keeping the volume in check, etc.
People who do ppl but dont do this are fucking idiots, especially ones who lift pplpplxpplpplx

>>37747142
3x full-body hits all your muscle groups 3 times per week so that's a poor criteria to judge a routine for.

>>37747254
how often should I have a deload workout?
I've just started doing PPL like two weeks ago and my weights haven't even went down all that much, which is weird.

>>37747299
your weights should definitely not be going down unless you're cutting, PPL or not.

>>37747171
>having a life outside the gym

never gonna make it

>>37747311
Oh, I thgouht they would so I took it chill. Because of bigger frequency.

>>37747299
Depends on what you're doing right now
How much volume you're getting, lifting stats, rest, are you working a strennuous physical job/other activity, diet, rest, etc.

Whenever you feel the need (your weights/reps don't go up as planned, etc.)

However residual fatigue will creep in regardless even when you progress so it's better to take them every few weekfor a few days or week

Biggest factor for this is your training experience
Person who squats 450x5 will need much more (often) deloads than a person who squats 285x5