I'm starting to feel firmness and resistance in my chest.

>>37521082
>At what bf% should I expect to be dissapointed by how little progress I've actually made
no one understands your question

>>37522640
I feel op
I felt firm tumtums
I cut the fat
I got to the skins
Still no vagine soaking ab
WHY LISA WHY?

>>37522640
He's saying he assumes he's going to look like a skinny twink once he lost his bulkyness (excess body fat). Happened to me on my first cut. I thought I was pretty big until I cut and was just becoming skinnier and skinnier.

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>>37522640
>>37522682
>>37522700
Well it was mostly a joke, but I suppose what I'm asking is what bf% will I start seeing real muscle definition? I don't think I'll end up being a hungry skeleton, but I just want to know how much farther I have to go to figure that out.

>>37523933
everybody is different with their muscle connections

some people look fucking ripped at 17%, some need to go to 9%

>>37524097
At least I have an idea now thanks

>>37523933
>no money can buy it

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>>37521082

>I just started lifting but im going to do a cut

You're literally that guy at the gym that never makes any gains because as soon as he does he goes on a calorie restricting cut then is back at square one.

You should build a considerable amount of mass before you even think of cutting and when you are ready to cut, dont do it like every other retard here. Subtract about 200 cals under your surplus and gradually lose body fat while maintaining lean muscle mass.

If you dont do this, your options are:

>roids
or
>DYEL

>>37524244
I'm trying to cut before I bulk. Just trying to make noob gains along the way and I think I have.

>>37524271
Dont yoyo with your weight. Bulk right now, RIGHT FUCKING NOW then do a smart cut in about 3-4 months.

>>37524190
>thinking he can buy roids and get that body the next day

lmao @ your pathetic life

>>37524310
>thinking roids isn't literally buying muscle
>having sub human level IQ

>>37521082
16%