Is there literally any point in lifting if you can't get

I'm only asking this because i've realized after 4 years no matter how good I perform in the gym, no matter how strong I get, no matter how much volume I do. No matter what style of training or routine I do.....if I don't eat a calorie deficit I just will never lose the fucking fat.

It's fucking demoralizing desu.

Lifting makes me hungry all the time as well. I actually feel like I was leaner before I began lifting 4 years ago.

>>37490354
Depends on your goals. You can look pretty good at 15% if you have enough muscle and the correct proportions. I'm guessing you're a lot fatter if you "struggle" to get under 20%, that shit is easy as fuck.

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Pic related is the leanest I've ever been.

That was after 3 whole years lifting.

I just don't have the genetics for getting amazing results from lifting. Maybe you're the same?

Most of us have shit genetics anyway, there's a reason why people like zyzz stick out. If everyone could obtain zyzz like body then zyzz wouldn't even be special.

>>37490354
>want something
>cant do it
>whine on an image board

Strongfat is beastly

>>37490354
switch to new goal, dingus
lifting isnt just about aesthetics

>>37490459
Are you trying to take a dump on the floor?

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Goal body, looks around ~15% to me

>>37490354
stop smoking weed fggt

>>37490459

Zyzz did roids. Anyone on roids can get a decent body if you arent retarded.

You looked pretty decent my friend. I'd stick with it. Most heavy weight ufc fighters look like that and would whoop anyone on this board.

>>37490825
>lifting isnt just about aesthetics
but it is if you are not powerlifting

>>37490354
I hit a goddamn wall when I was on keto for about a month with no fucking progress. I kept eating less and even doing weekly 24hr fasts while doing cardio. Fucking nothing. Gave up, feel a bit better desu at least I can eat somewhat normal again while getting stronger.


But,

I will always look better with my shirt on.

>>37490354
>to stay at a caloric deficit consistently
When I cut I like to do it over a long period of time with a lot of breaks, both for mental relief but also due to the simple fact that weight loss always seems to slow down if you keep eating at a decifit for long.

So instead of cutting for 10 weeks for example, I'll start much sooner but only do a couple of weeks at a time followed by a week or two of maintenance, and then back to cutting again.

Slow and steady wins the race.

>>37490354
willpower is everything, and it is a fundamental part of genetic advantage too. You need to train it desu