/fraud/ general

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>>37162867
>>37161548

Wow I was right, her name is coral Sharon

>>37162905
>jew
>into the oven it goes

Whatever happened to the 100 days of fat guy? Did he just end up quitting?

>>37163026

What is 100 days of fat?

>>37163029
It was some obese dude that was blog posting on /fit/ for a while. He would make progress, then break down and eat 2 entire pizzas and shit. It was entertaining watching his mental and physical battle

>>37163045

Christ that is fucking horrid. I am currently a turbo fatty, but in 4 months I haven't even had a single cheat meal. If you don't want to fucking be fat, just make the decision and do it.

>>37162418
bump

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>>37162935
>Well okay, then tell me whats up with Scott Hermann.
>He legitamely looks the same since 5 years and made barely any gains.

Okay, cherry picking man. ''most'' people then. He probably made some slighty gains, but those probably aren't noticable for the steroid eye.

btw; people don't even look like this on gear

>>37163080
I feel you
I dont get how people rationalize failing like that
Kinda going the equivalent with cigs
Im not smoking though ufeelme

>>37163080
Good on you. I know he had a GG that wanted to keep him fat, but he would get drunk and binge eat. I guess he was using alcohol as a "trigger" or whatever

>>37163080

Just take DNP and low dose of Test. You are in /fraud/ after all, no use struggling for it.

I will be put on Nebido the next week, should I get some test E to load test faster? I heard it takes a lot of time for Nebido to start working. Was thinking of adding 50mg of Test E or C/week. thoughts?

>>37162884
FAGS

>>37163850
Fraudulent Anabolic Gain Sluts

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After a couple years of cycling, I've reached my goals, but I'm afraid my dick has become a casualty of war. Can barely get it up at all anymore, but I've got a horny gf that still wants to get some. Does anyone know a good strap on harness that I can use? I've been looking at the Spareparts Tomboi atm, does anyone else have any experience with it?

>>37163675
Go for at least 100mg/week.

Whats the dose of the nebido?

>>37164297
Nebido 1000mg/4ml first next week then probably again in 6 weeks and every 8 or 12 weeks after that, endo hasn't told me yet. so you think I should add 100mg/week for how long? first 12 weeks maybe?

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>>37163045
>mfw wasn't even breaking down when I was eating 2 pizzas
>mfw that was the start to becoming bed shitting messiah

>>37164312
your endo is a quack
tell him you need more frequent injections or dont bother at all

>>37164325
why? it's testosterone undecanoate and it's supposed to be injected 4 times a year, there is no medical test e/c here and nebido is the only option.

>>37164347
test u has a half life of 3 weeks
after 9 weeks theres literally none of it left in your system

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>>37164347

it's got a half life of 20.9 days, not 3 fucking months

>>37164373
>>37164366
oh shit. maybe I can get the doctor to give me shots every 6 weeks. if he doesn't i'll take some blood tests on the last weeks to show him I am right. as I said undecanoate is the only one available here and I am afraid to order online

>>37164397
6 weeks is p shit too
thats like injecting test e every other week

>>37164409
Which is kind of what TRT docs do with test cyp lol

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>>37164397

I can literally give you the study for this shit, print out the relevant pages and tell your endo to actually learn something about their field, e3w pins unless he just doesn't give a fuck about patient health or hormone stability

>>37164419
yeah but its p shit

>>37164422
Are those thighs not too wide for you? They don't look particularly feminine to me.

>>37164422
would it have to be e3w 1000mg/4ml or split into smaller doses?

>>37164422
So I hear JJ finally convinced you to become a vegetarian bruh

>>37164450
Nebido is just a shitty product, you *should* be able to get a vial of Undec and pin every 1-2 weeks at home.

>>37164468
theres nebido vials as well dude

>>37164478
That's good, I've only ever heard of people getting the 4ml shit tier option.

>>37164498
theyre 4 ml vials too kek

>>37164160

post pic of your body

>>37164468
well its the only product I can get for TRT here. what about this study that shows stable T-levels after loading it? http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jc.2004-0897

Do bottle top filters last longer than syringe filters?

If so, how much longer?

>>37163411
>Just take DNP and low dose of Tes

How does one acquire such goods?

>>37163411
What if I don't want myocardial scarring

Posted in last. No answer. Want to run lgd(sarm) but having difficulty finding a good source. I'm am army fag and will be getting a surprise hormone blood panel soon due to idiots. Anyone know where to get some.

Inb4 just use gear
Inb4 wait
Inb4 lrn2greentext

Do I need to sterilise vials that are already topped? I can't see how I'd do it, since the rubber stop would probably melt in the oven.

>>37164697
no
also rubber doesnt melt

>>37164720
Just wanted to make sure, as I'm gonna be brewing my first batch tonight.

>>37164728
you should have bought pre-sterilized vials

>>37164669
theyre going to see youre on something if they do a full hormone panel on you when youre taking sarms

why did i just buy a bathmate!??! KEK

im not even small, 6'.

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>>37164445

want to know how I can tell you've never properly power-fucked a chick before

>>37164450

depends on what dosage he's putting you on, def not 1g e3w

>>37164454
>So I hear JJ finally convinced you to become a vegetarian bruh

>>37164570

they're good for more volume

they both only last one brew of one compound because IT HAS TO BE FUCKING STERILE

ask me how I know you have a whoooole lot more reading to do

>>37164656

that's funny

>>37164736
They were, but I wasn't sure if I should sterilize them again after, after delivery and storage.

>>37164768
When I say how much longer, I know only one brew, but if I'm brewing 400ml in one go, I want to know how long until it needs changing.

Same with the syringe filters, the ones I have currently, generally only last 100ml.

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>>37164800

sealed vials are sealed vials

>I want to know how long until it needs changing

you might get 400ml if you're lucky and don't mind being patient, but don't try to goose the shit and overpressure the filter membrane otherwise it'll tear and you end up with a big mess and a bunch of gear that needs to be re-filtered

>>37164762
6.25 here and I ordered one y.day

>>37164848
That bitch is disgusting

>>37164902
found the beta cuck

>>37164902
nigga you gay

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>>37164902

>>37164312
Yeah 8-12 weeks would probably be fine. Complain of injection site pain and ask if he can break it down to smaller more frequent doses.

Wait why dont you just have the vial and syringes in the first place? Why is your doc injecting you?

>>37164932
>>37164941
>>37165070
She looks like a fucking troll

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>>37164397
I got 4ml 4weeks, later on my Doc opted for 2ml 2weeks then 1ml 1week it's nice Base if you get it.
On 500/500test tren 30dbol my Doc.said once I am done blasting i can come back and get.my free nebido again (healthcare System yeah!)

Does anyone have a link for under construction 2?
It could be pretty interesting.

>>37164762
Shit I'll give you one, it's the x40 or whatever. Hardly used it because Pepe is big enough but who doesn't want a 12x8

>>37165699
I don't, roid libido is too high and 8 thick would destroy any normal girls pussy for days.

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Any of you guys run unigen or AP test? Wondering if it's worth going with them or just shelling out the cash for Bayer

>>37164902
Up the test breh.

>>37165740
Tfw low libido no matter what.

>>37165773
A mixed kind of feel, so many good and bad things about crazy libido.
But I don't think I would trade my sky high one for a normal one.

But it can get really annoying.

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>>37165759
AP is quality, but if you can get original Bayer why not? Pharma gear will always be.the better Option.

Dubs and FL gets his first kiss

>>37165759
bayer only makes nebido and test gel
go with AP if you dont mind amps, otherwise do unigen

>>37165759
Not 100 sure on these 2 labs, as they are pharm grade in some countries I think, but the main thing about pharma is the heavy metal content, and the BA and BB content, it is so much healthier to run pharm grade injectables. This is a pretty huge point imo.

What's your favourite drug fraud?

Hey guise,

/fit/ noob here.
I just got my blood test back and my testosterone is at 5.0 ng/ml. I read that this is at the lower normal spectrum.

Would it make sense for me to take test injections? How does that effect my natural test production and what will it really change?

Sorry for the noob questions

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>>37165882

....

uh, what

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>>37165759
I'am running bayern test for the first time ,only 250mg ew and I can say iam pretty satisfied. Really worth it imo

Anybody tried musclebond here? Legit or scam?

>>37166061
Where did you get this is Dutchland? Do sources sell these on sst? What did you pay for them?

>>37165916
my saiyan queen

>>37165902
Most likely if you dose at physiological level its not gonna change much at all. What it will do to your natural test production is shut you down, it will also decrease fertility.
If you want the real anabolic effects of test you'll have to dose supraphysiological and run it in cycles or blast and cruise.

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>>37166061
On sst that guy wants 70/10ml.

Damn I miss gal and his $4amps

Any of you try out Trestalone yet?

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>>37166179
local dealer, first time. I used to buy my gear online, but only ugl. The ugl brand was also good

i pay 60 for 10ml. ugl i payed 40 for 10ml(but 10ml my ass, probably more like 8-9ml).

With the bayer amps i get exactly 1ml with each amp everytime. No frauding

>>37166287
60/10ml

seems reasonable for pharma

>>37166655
How did you find local dealer

>>37166105
legit

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>>37166688
Almost every gym got a local dealer, for sure. Especially over here.

A guy on tv did a documentary about it while being undercover. He could buy gear from every gym, pretty much

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>>37166287
>>37166655
Guess they wanna make good profit.

I get 10ml pharma for around 40 euros straight out of the pharmacy, so that's the base price in western europe I suppose.

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>>37166771
wow, that sounds like heaven.

40 euro is minimum for ugl here, but they never give you the full 10ml. You can't get it for any less than that. On the internet and local is the same price (domestic)

pharma is 50-60 for 10ml.

>>37166822
It pisses me off how Lee lied about his drug use
He claimed he would come off everything in the off-season and not do any pct

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>>37166822
>wow, that sounds like heaven.
To be honest, I stopped buying it and even want to get rid of the stuff I have now.

I have way too many raws right now.

>>37163045
Meh, I didn't find it all that funny, he'd just do crash diets and inevitably fuck up while most of the replies just blew smoke up his ass and defended what he was doing against any other advice like they were all trying to insult him.

>>37166105
My goto. Maybe a bit expensive but legit.

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>>37166105
>>37166900
Really expensive. Also the one Mike recommended so people hate here lol.

Afaik mostly good stuff though.

Anyone tried biomex labs?

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>>37165848
Man, what are you doing around this time that you're always posting when I'm in the thread?

You're embarrassing me, mang.

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>>37166857
>He claimed he would come off everything in the off-season and not do any pct
he isn't the only one that claimed so.

Arnold said he only used it, prior to the show. Luimarco said that levrone also used it just for the show. And couple of others claimed the same

and then we see bostin loyd as a mobile pincushion , year round injecting everyting he can get his hands on and don't even look close to those guys. Man, his genetics sucks ass

>>37166860
you can always give it to me, if it really bothers you. I have no problem with that at all. kek

so you're producing it yourself?

but how do you get those raws, without getting fucked by the customs

>>37162884

On a deca/test cycle with a tbol kick. 2 weeks in. Looking to change up my routine from your typical PPL to something with more volume and emphasis on arms.

Any idea guys?

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>>37166937
I'd rather just sell it here lol instead of giving it away for free. Customs is avoided by sending it over to mainland cities.

Yeah I produce my own gear.

>>37166822
tfw payin 20 usd per 10ml ugl

>>37166926
>listening to rap song
>come across this pic
>look at boobies
>hear lyrics "dem titties nice"
>nod up and down

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>>37166970
party pooper.

hmm interesting.

hard to do so? I have found some tuts on the Internet, but i don't know if you can rely on that, without getting a cemical explosion

>>37166989
it's because you're living in the Bronx

different cost of living breh

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>>37167020
Excuse me, please don't sexualize cosplayers like that.

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>>37167042
It's easy to do. It being quality is a coinflip on the other hand.

I got lucky and it all got tested as pure. Meanwhile others get ripped off.

>>37166926
Jerrbears FL gf

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>>37167058
You could make a fortune with that, damn. And also being 100% sure of legit stuff.

Living the boss life

What do you all do for cramps? Couldn't even get up yesterday/move after lifting because it was so bad.

>>37167264
I usually take about 6 500mg capsules of taurine for muscle cramps.

>>37167329
I took like 6 grams yesterday, because I could barely walk and then sat on my computer for an hour. Got up too fast, legs cramped and I couldn't move. Had to stand there until my legs stopped fking around.

Shit is the worst.

>>37167362
Potassium and electrolyte balancing

>>37167412
My potassium is in check. It may be sodium, now that I think about it.

>>37167445
Balancing would be the key word there.

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>>37167135
I just sell it to family and friends. Don't think it's worth the risk to sell around to randoms.

>>37167568
Who is this sexy female? Reverse image search turns up nothing for her. Is she a pure maiden?

>>37167658
>female

You dun goofed, that's bailey jay, who has a penis.

But you knew this.

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>>37167682
Check your privilege

One of my shoulders is fucked.

>>37167703
NO!
>>37167942
That all you're gonna do today, complain?

>>37167966
>That all you're gonna do today, complain?
lmao, nice jerrbears.

>>37167966
Might as well. Everything will be over for me soon enough

>>37168025
why's that then

>>37168025
finally, I hope you are serious

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>>37168060
>>37168129
>lel

>>37166926
I get off work at 11;30am and have a few hours to kill before I can go to the gym with my friend
so I dubpost for fl gfs here to kill the time
sorry senpai

>>37166918
There aren't better options for eutofags tho, afaik

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>>37166918
>thought mike was a bro
>he scammed me

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>>37168272
Me if I know you. It's easy to be cheaper than them but still not having to go down to FL tier prices when he went mad. Their vials are at like 60 quid each.

>>37168297
>sad pepe
Ikftb. He got me good too.

Elbow clicking at the top of a hammer curl ever since i upped volume to 15-20reps. On 500mg test tren, no pain when it does it. Concentration curls aren't causing it though, so I'm really at a loss. Anyone else experience this?

Where would be the best place to learn about recreational use?

>>37168448
hammer curls put more stress on the elbow

>>37168535
reddit -> r / steroids -> wiki
I think someone here also has a pastebin you can read.

>>37168547
Reverse curls also a bad idea? Hate not including brachialis and forearms meh

I'll stop hammers for a couple weeks, see how that goes

>>37168577

Oh I was just reading that

how much of a benefit is just doing a bunch of trt without anything else?

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>>37168630
A lot.

>>37168587
do wrist curls/reverse wrist curls, static hangs, and chin ups

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Is this shit legit? Whats stopping me from getting on that HGH gain train.

>>37168637
I naturally have 650 of test at age 20. If I did TRT how high would that number go? Like triple? Could I go from dyel to Zac Efron if I just did that and then DNP before each summer?

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>>37168721
It'd be easier to answer that question if you simply said how many mg of test you're gonna go on every week.

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What is the difference of roid use between someone like Zyzz and Bostin Loyd/Panini?

How did Zyzz have such a lean greek-like look while most roiders have this huge chunky bloated look?

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>>37168736
Bostin easily uses 3-5 times as much gear as zyzz did.

>>37168736
zyzz did orals/injects that dry out, giving a lean appearance

most bodybuilders are doing orals, and other stuff that bloats (causes water retention and aromatization)

also some you synthetic injections to make their muscles look bigger (rich piana)

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>>37167568
Yeah, that's right. It is risky. It only take one ratta that will turn your life into hell.

>>37168736
Zyzz was a faggot, that's why

>>37168745
Seeing what he used at that time, he would probably be bostin -tier user today. He really thought he was immortal. kek

>>37168734

Whatever it takes. I'm not certain how it works. my brother recently hopped on trt so he can help me buy and figure out the dosing.

Basically I'm curious what it's like to have test levels between like 1500 and 2000 and if that is sustainable permanently? Like how does it feel and how accelerated are the gains?

I'm super tired of plateauing.

if I put all the spare money I have each week aside for a few weeks, I'll have enough to start my sdrol,test,tren,mast blast
I-I need this

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> asked if you niggas tried Trestalone
> no replies

Pussies.

It still amazes me how many girls want me for my 10/10 ass.

>>37168823
Post ass

Weird weekend. I'm camping at an REI work retreat, and it's such a 90s movie here. Every outdoors-y person trope exists here at this function. This is real life.

Upped AI today, I missed my ex.

>>37168823
Ass is everything, I went to a party a few days ago, and 3 women I did not know started touching my ass and wanted to talk to me and compliment my glutes.
It takes a lot for girls to do that, so I think it is safe to say that all girls want my ass, and 3 had the guts to try while drunk.


tfw I missed my leg day today and have to take tommorow off, monday it is 4 plates 4 sets of 8 on squats and 1 amrap set

>>37168859
Kinda Hot Tub Time Machine, eh? Any Walkmen yet? Cool people and a good time?

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>>37168839

Nah, I'm going to hold out for G4P.

>>37168922
Jerrbears

Yeah the company is decent. I came with a lady friend. She invited me for my birthday. Fucked her raw last night while thinking of that Asian cunt. That girl had like no personality, so why am I infatuated? Wanting what's hard to attain?

>>37168929
Smart man. It pays well. Send me your info I get $ for referrals.

>>37166061
So you live in germany?

Is this pharma grade gear?

>>37168985
You find the problem interesting and might think it would be a cool one to solve somehow. You know, that or the pussy game tight.

>>37169014
I do like a challenge.

I'm beginning to think she's just a little dumb though. I feel I'm decently high value when strange women here are offering to share alcohol (a camping commodity) or offering extra tent space.

>>37168823
post ass workout

>>37169031
Trying to get through the bullshit on the outside might not be worth your time, yeah, real progress is only going to be made inside the defenses.

>>37169031
what makes you think she may be dumb?

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Ass is all genetics. This girl right here has never done squats or worked out.

>>37169104
Groce.

>>37169135
found the homo

>>37169104
She's really lucky then. Most girls have a flat ass, if they wouldn't shape it. But some just don't have the genetics to shape anything at all and will probably get implants, just with boobs.

Ass is all about fat distribution. I always have had a big ass, without training him. I just have lots of fat there. It will go much smaller when iam cutting tho.

>>37169104
>a muscle is all genetics

ok

I get what you mean

>>37169013
No.

Yeah i guess it's the real deal.

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>>37169148
I like firm ass.

>>37169104
I don't like the long oval butt thing. Perky, tight, round ass is what I like. This chick has the long oval ass, shits not attractive

>>37169194
Small dick detected. You either like big ass or have a small dick.

>>37169198
What do you expect? She never shaped him. Imagine what would happen if she did. This is a raw diamond. Most woman would kill for genetics Ike this.

It's nearly impossible to have a perfect shaped ass without training.

>>37169194
based camera man

>>37169185

>anonymous

I want the real masT to reply, not some faggot

>>37169235
>Small dick detected
Hey, why can't I just be a latent homosexual or something? Why my dick gotta be small?

>>37169235
that feel when u gotta small dick but you like big ass

what do i do?

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>>37169258
Excuse me senior, that was me. Forgot the name.

I'am from the Netherlands. Yeah i guess it's the real deal. Iam only on 250mg atm, can't wait to bump it to 750mg when iam bulking. Iam curious what results it will bring.

>>37169273
Projecting won't help you now breh. We're on to you

>>37169288
Hcg for micropenis. Or just hit her from the front. More chance she Wil feel your little man. Not from the behind obviously

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>>37169324
Made me remember when JM used to respond so aggressively, calling me a faggot when I'd post short-haired women, good times.

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Are there any consequences in pushing your jaw forward and giving yourself a very minor underbite?

it really accentuates my chin and jawline. I hear like mouthbreathing, doing this can help shape your face (except in a good way).

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>>37169364
Are you still trying to get dates?

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>>37169171
You haven't been to the canaries bruh.

90%of girls have really good ass here. No tits on the other hand, but srsly nearly all amazing ass. Way better than the one in that pic.

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Just gone into my second week of a 12 week test e only cycle at 600mg/week. Holy fuck why do I feel so good? I think it's cured my depression. God knows how I'm gonna feel in 4 weeks time. Fuck this I'm never coming off.

> https://youtu.be/bHDHi37bboE

>>37169135

I remember when I was low Test like you.

>>37169171

I'd make her shape it if I ever bed this ho. Almost did, bad timing.

>>37169324
>Forgot the name
mast confirmed anon shitposter

Got a cutie coming over in a few. Pinned a bit of prop and took 50mg proviron. Going to ruin her

>>37169544
do it breh

How does it escalate to fucking with you?

>>37169444
Not at the moment, no.

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>>37169617

>>37169755
Nothing that sad about it.

>sharefacebookimagetalkingaboutjustgettingmyshittogether

>>37169775
Yeah
Being financially stable and healthy probably more important than a gf

who whom frauds, besides fl, is forever alone

>>37169834
Alone until I return to the loam and when cities are but dust, alien civilizations will know: Jerrbears fl gf.

>>37169834
Jerry tried to lose his virginity to a hooker and hasn't touched a female in 5 years

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>>37169932
Lies.

>>37169941
Jerry sleeps with 3 women every night.

#relationshipgoals

invite girl over or study?

starting week 10 of 12 week cycle.
put on 12 kg's so far, bf% hasnt changed much as far as i can tell.
first 8 weeks: 375mg test e
since then and till end of cycle, 500mg test e.

anything i can do to maximise my gains for the last couple of weeks?

>>37170158
invite her over to fuck you cuck

>>37170182
eat more, sleep more, lift more

>>37170192
Take a cab or Uber.

>>37170227
what?

>>37170192
eating between 4000-5000 cal per day, probably should lift more as i only gym 4 days a week.
invite that girl over you retard

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>>37170158
>invite girl over or study?

>>37170291
>>37170276
I doubt we'd fuck. Idk if we'd even kiss, I've basially become autistic after doing too much acid.

>>37164669
Hey bro do sarms actually work? Do they legit not have side effects?

>>37170431
take some and find out

>>37170480
Plz no bully. Im new to /fraud/ and don't want to fuck up my health. Sarm seems to be legit but I'm still scared of side effects

>>37170570
LGD
>raises LDL/lowers HDL cholesterol
>suppresses testosterone

Don't do it w/o a test base

>>37170594
I'm confused. Isn't test supposed to lower your "natural test level"? If so, why take more than one "harmful"?
Would i get fucked up in any way if I just safely run a 8 week LGD cycle then pussy out and see how my health is affected?

>>37170691
LGD does the same thing-lowers natural test level. If you have test. base you would have natural test levels (+higher) and better androgen sensitivity.

With no test. base, you will have almost no test., and higher androgen sensitivity.

Doesn't look like you know anything, fix your shit up senpai

>>37170691
Just attempted my first homebrew. I don't know why, but it took 30 minutes to fill one vial with 10ml, probably wasn't even the full 10ml, and I used a caulk gun. Called it quits, and stored the rest in one of those airtight glass storage jars after sterilizing it. I'm gonna wait til I get a bottle filter before I do this again.

I need my own place. Doing this while living with my father is stressful as fuck, since he'd probably kick me out if he found out I'm using, and I don't earn enough to support myself yet.

I'm going to bed now, it's 04:00, since I had to wait until he went to bed before I could start brewing.

Pic related is the ~10ml of 250mg/ml of Test E. I used 3ml BA, 6ml BB, and the rest MCT. It's actually a lot clearer irl, just looks like that because of finger smudges from a small leak of the product.

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>>37170755
Pic related would be pic related if I didn't forget the pic. That's being up later than I should for you.

>>37164606
napsgear.org for roids
google "dnp pastebin" constantly update source for DNP sources.

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So do you guys have a preference on clomid dosage? I see varying opinions when googling, think I'll go higher dose just to be safe, but would obviously rather save some if i can to make next cycle cheaper

>>37163026
He died. He gave up like a week into his workout, but then like a month later he made a thread about losing weight with DNP, and I've never heard of him ever since

>>37166061
Can you explain why you feel satisfied? What changes are you noticing? Have you lost weight? How much? Why run tren at that dose vs higher. Thanks in advance

>>37171791
my favorite clomid dosage is nolvadex
specifically at 40/40/20/20/20/20

>>37171850
that girl has a lot of cum on her stomach

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So this happened.

>>37171877
>seducing women over text
bruh do that shit in person lmao
limit texting to arranging dates / hookups

>>37171877
give her the succ

>>37170755
so fraud newbie here, is home brewing test cheaper?
and are there any good resources about brewing?

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>>37171886
> stop seducing girls over text

No.

>>37171888
> succ

Will do, nice trips. She wants to fuck "after church"

>>37171877
Step one: Suck her nipples
Step two: Start to leave hickey in most visible place
Step three: When she says stop, say "All bets were off when I sucked your nipples."
Step four: Cum without perimission

>>37164324
B R E H
R
E
H

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>>37170755
>>37170770

you one of the fucks I was educating about brewing before?

>I don't know why, but it took 30 minutes to fill one vial with 10ml

syringe filters are retardedly slow, bottletops are waaaaaaay faster

>Called it quits, and stored the rest in one of those airtight glass storage jars after sterilizing it.

pre-filtered you don't need to be overly concerned with sterility, just normal clean container in a cool (not as in toss it in the fridge, just a cool area in the house) dark place out of the light

>>37171850

250-300ish test and 350-400 tren depending on acetate or enanthate

alternatively go read some of the shit brandon lilly posted on r/powerlifting

>>37171862

my favorite clomid dosage is a gnrh agonist and toremifene

>>37171943

by several orders of magnitude

and you need to actually know shit about gear before you start thinking about brewing

>>37171850

Sounds like you've never touched steroids before, actually

>>37171862
Nolva wasn't available from my source when I bought fuck off

>>37172062

Your source is pretty shitty if they don't carry fucking nolva.

>>37172030
I mean I guess I know "the basics" of testosterone and how it works and its effects. I have just never taken steroids and don't intend too till I'm atleast 30 (I'm 18 rn) or hit my natty limit.

But I'm interested with drugs/chemicals in general and producing them. So I am thinking about selling my home brewed steroids until I hit my natty limit, although my questions would be is there profit to be had in making and selling testosterone and how much cheaper is it generally

>>37172196
>don't intend too till I'm atleast 30
ayy lmao

>>37172263
literally what?

>>37172265
nothing like roiding for used up 30 year old pussy that's been fucked by 500 niggers

>>37172269
>implying I'm lifting for girls
>implying I'm only gonna fuck 30+ year old mediocre women

cmon it's like your not even trying

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Autoclaves are neat, I got this one yesterday. I had no idea they were so loud, scared the fuck out of me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2ZoxCPXK1Y

how much melatonin should i take?

>>37172881
why is this on fraud kek

anyways you should take 0.5 mg or somewhere around that range, 3mg is too much and the only reason they sell it in 3mg pills is to make some profit.

so under 1mg atlleast

Eyo my frauding fellas! So I've got a bit of a problem.
You see I was seeing a girl and then just stopped talking to her.
Then 3 months later I started talking to her again out of thin air, and she agreed to start things up again see if anything was still there.
After 3 dates she told me in person that she didn't have the same feelings as before and was sorry for wasting my time.

Thing is, I'm really realllly petty and I think I actually like her so I've just been very visible on FB and SC so she is constantly reminded of me and that will somehow make her want me again.

So should I just delete her and move on or is this psycho mind game of mine going to work in any way? Cheers bruhs

inb4 person diary

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>>37162884

> going on 3 months since last cycle
> last one was just 30mg dbol /w my 200 test cruise for a month
> gained 10 pounds, kept 7. guessing 5 of it is lean
>finally starting my next cyc
> gona run 600 test + var to "recomp" and recovery from some tweaks
> biggest cycle i did so far was just 500 test last year


im still milking these baby cycles and my eating is still pretty lazy, idk how guys get hooked on these crazy ass 1k a month cycles + hgh + insulin + peptides and all that crazy shit

>>37172956
so if i bought these 10mg pills its probably too much eh...

>>37172976
yeah way to much, try to divide the pills into 4 pieces so its 2.5mg of melatonin then if you can try splitting that piece in half (tricky to do) for a total of around 1.3mg, which is still alot but its better than taking 10mg's.

>>37172970

1) be honest with her about your feelings, plead that you are sorry about what you did to her before
2) if that doesn't work, cut contact (but don't block, just disappear for a week or two)
3) apply the D.E.N.N.I.S. system
3b) or just wait a few weeks and check up on her, chances are she already has a few options and decided to go with them instead of you so it's a waste of time
3c) if you pick option b, just leave the bridge open. who knows, might get you some puss when you least expect it

>>37173018
Cheers bruh, always good to get a second opinion on your pesky life "problems"

>>37173018
>>37173054
ignore that shit, just remove her and move on. Other girls will like you and you'll like other girls. Seeing her or hooking up randomly will just keep you feelings there.

is there a reason roid users cut at only 500 and 1k deficits generally, and not something extreme like psmf?

you're not going to be losing much lbm anyway right? so why not speed it up instead of wasting time?

is it because the glycogen depletion from diets like this make you look like shit?

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>>37173119
dude
what are you on about
Many trips and anons here swear by psmf on a dose of just 250 to conserve lbm

>>37173133
oh i didn't mean here, i don't pay much attention to the blogposts honestly.

i meant in general, if you browse other forums people cut like pussies, 500-1000 deficit, and complain about how "hard" it is.

>>37173151
You might be getting some crossover from shown prep which is an entirely different beast from a general cut if you're browsing roid boards

i read through the pastebin and none of the listed supplements say they help with PN.

is there a supplement or supplements that help with pn?

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>tfw you realize you're insane

>>37173297
Did you google it, or try looking at DNP's pastebin, if they are still around

>>37173300
fuck meant to post this in the dnp thread

>>37173297
yeah fucking god damn nigger SHIT FUCK

getting pn, have to stop the dnp.

time to fucking cut without it... fuck. gonna take forever in comparison. whatever. fuck me

Do steroids affect LBM loss on a fast or no? Since you're getting 0 protein.

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>>37172030
Yeah, I was one of those fucks. I knew it'd take a while, but I didn't think it'd be to the tune of 30m/10ml.

I stored it in one of these things, and put it in a drawer. I guess I could move it into the pantry with my raws.

I've already got a 12 pack of bottle top filters on the way, so I'll be set for a little while.

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>very high test
>eat food
>get bloated huge lovehandles and stomach and tighter pants
>go TRT test and med-high tren
>eat food
>almost immediately get bloated face + neck, get a double chin
>body tightness is the same

What the fuck is going on? is it still because there are large remnants of test left? 1.5g every week still takes a long time to dissipate even after 10 days of no test injections.

My diet is pretty fine

2000ish calories a day.

300calories of green peas(sometimes 1/4th of it baked beans)
100 calories of either tomato/bacon sauce or white/cheese sauce
600 calories of meat
50calories of ketchup


this is my bigger meal.

At work I eat the same, except 30% smaller.

I eat some protein powder straight up at certain points, maybe 1.5-2 scoops as well.

Bloat only happens during my big meal.

I suppose 12.5 aromasin every 2 days is ridiculously bad for 1.5g test or something.

550mg tren with about .5 mg caber every 2.5 or so days.

>>37173569
>pic
Omar imo is the best youtuber there is, dude isnt a dick and his info is good. Surprised lighbulb head Candito isnt on there

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>>37173569
>(sometimes 1/4th of it baked beans)
>1/4th of it
>1/4th
>"One Quarterth"

>>37173935
>bumping /fraud/

>>37174088
>i see what you did there

can crashed esrtro cause acne?
switched from 25mg asin to 0.625mg letro as the asin wasnt strong enough (was getting sore/itchy nipples)
switching to letro has eliminated the gyno symptoms but two weeks after switching i developed a bunch of acne around my back, chest and shoulder area which is completely out of the norm for me
i have no symptoms of low estro but some people report feeling completely fine having crashed estro and dont even realise until they get bloods done

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Restday is something nice, ever 3h a shot 100/100 ipam + Mod a 50prot 50carbs meal and a 2h nap
Life of Kings
B
O
S
S

>>37174228
What is that, salmon?

Never liked it uncooked.

I'll be starting my first cycle soon. Haven't lifted in 8 years. Lost 110 pounds down to 13% bf. Gonna do my first pin the first day I go to the gym. This is clearly not how you should do things, which is why I'm doing it this way. Wew.

>>37174239

carrots

When should I pin? Before or after the gym?

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>>37174239
Never seen Sushi?
You missing out

>>37174299
Not a fan of the texture, ha

I've only got ~10ml of 250mg/ml test e, because it took 30m to filter that 10ml, so I called it quits. I posted earlier about it. Anyway, I won't get my bottle filters until the end of May at the earliest, so I won't be able to make more until then. I'm only taking 0.4ml e3d, cruising, so it'll last me maybe 2 months. Should I just start now and make more along the way, or play it safe in case there are any problems?

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>>37169446
Hmm, i need to get to the canaries then.

I love thick asses. Boobs are also nice, but ass got my priority. There is no better feeling than sticking your dick in a big soft pillow. ask Jerry.

Especially when's she's giving you that look from behind while you're doing it. goddammit

>>37169506
ya blew it man.

>>37171838
Yeah, i lost a ton of weight probably, but that's due to diet and training. Just using the test to hold lbm.

just like with test. But i never used only 250mg before. I have always used 500mg minumum, but i can say it's equivalent of that feeling. I never runned tren, but people run tren higher than test, because of the less side effects? At least that's what i have read over here.

>>37162884

First cycle on 500mg Test Cyp. Main goal is to recomp. Should I cut hard first, or eat at maintenance calories? I don't have the muscle mass I want, but I'm also not as lean as I would like to be. What do?

How do you guys use steroids? Do you take assloads of them while giving no fucks, or do you take amounts that help you get gainz while staying within reasonable test levels for an adult male?

>>37174802
pls research b4 asking dum questions thank you

>>37174802
yes

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>>37174276
I always do it before bed after i showered.

>>37174758
You had to cut to 10-11% bf at least, before you roid.

I would first cut. then gain the mass with steroids if i hadn't enough mass already.

you should know this already, come one man

>>37174854
it's not a dumb question

>>37174376
bump

>>37174910
its a fucking retarded ass question that the imbecile would know if he researched for 5 seconds

if he's asking dumb ass shit like this he probably lacks the intelligence to roid properly

>>37174940
how is "research" going to help someone find out how a small, specific group of people use roids?

>>37174961
How is research on people useful on how my body works?

>>37174802
>do you take amounts that help you get gainz while staying within reasonable test levels for an adult male?

Otherwise known as 'pointless'

You're going to run steroids to replace your natural levels of hormones? Not worth the very fucking minor (only due to non-fluctuating levels, that's it) benefit.

>>37174970
english isn't your first language, is it?

uhh guys what the fuck? like seriously what?

not even 30 minutes ago I had severe PN out of nowhere from DNP, was getting extreme fucked up sensations in my hands and arms.

I then ate a meal (doing PSMF on 500mg dnp) because I remembered this happened last time, and behold, my PN is.... gone. COMPLETELY gone.

what the fuck is even the logic behind this? How could not ingesting carbs (i am assuming it's carbs and not fats) cause me to have PN?

I was going to come off but does this mean I can just stay on?

Once again, I went from SEVERE PN (that came out of nowhere, i was absolutely fine before a few hours ago) to completely normal, just from eating a decent (prob around 800 cals at most) meal and a 230 calorie chocolate bar.

>>37175059
Not worth the risk, come off.

>>37175111
since i am completely fine after eating doesn't that mean my myelin sheaths aren't actually damaged though?

this happened to me on my first dnp cycle i remember.

I didn't eat all day and I was starting to overheat. It got so bad I got in an ice bath and my arms were completely fucked with nerve pain. Then I ate some junk food and felt like superman after 2 minutes. I then proceeded to finish my dnp cycle for another ~11 days and came out with no PN.

This shit is weird man

>>37175059
It's probably to do with fluid distribution of your body, causing tightening of certain fascia in the arm that result in the feeling of peripheral neuropathy. Did you just get it in your hands or also the feet ? If its just the hands it probably wasn't a real toxicity problem but rather a pressure problem. PN from toxicity almost exclusively starts at the feet.
I thought of this because I had a similar then when I was on 2cb 2 times now, but only in my right hand a temporary feeling of carpal tunnel syndrome. It would also go away if I ate and drank more. Its the only logical explanation for what I experienced. With DNP I still wouldn't take any guesses tho, better come off it if you're uncertain, long-term sides of DNP are nothing to fuck with.

>>37175293
oh bro that makes sense, it was only the hands and forearms.

hi

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carb day, no pump, cheat pose day

>>37175968
long time no see, thought you were dead breh

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>>37176002

>>37176002
Why does all your skin seem so loose.

Were you fat when you were a kid and made mad gains?

>>37176002
>thought you were dead breh
hella busy with uni shit bro :c
not fun
and working on weekends too :c

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>>37176012
i was tortured and raped as a kid

and it's making way for more gains, when i'am gonna blast full throttle again.

>>37176058
mature life, so its seems.

hows the job?

>>37176108
>mature life, so its seems
I dont wana an mature :c

>hows the job?
preddy damn cosy.
I get there at 10am, set up the coffee machine at my stand.
Then just stand around and enthusiastically talk to passersby about our products and offer to make them some coffee if they seem intrested

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>>37176002
Acne is looking better breh. Did you ever use TB500 or just letting the skin heal natty?

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>>37176162
no more jailbait for you breh.

seems like a good job. Hows your progress going btw?

>>37176186
thanks man, no i hydrated my skin with all kind of creme's from my gf. That helped a lot

i took a long time, but iam happy with the results

iam 100% natty breh, you know me

>>37176186
who is this weenie genie

>>37176276
>no more jailbait for you breh
lol, that's just crazy talk

> Hows your progress going btw?
I've been off gear and diet for like 4 weeks. rip.
starting shit up on monday again.

I've been reading up on UD2.0 all weekend.

Anybody have a concise info source for the negative effects of alcohol without the fearmongering bullshit?

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>>37176276
>thanks man, no i hydrated my skin with all kind of creme's from my gf. That helped a lot
You used one specific cream or many different ones? My back looks a lot like your chest and I am trying to clear it up before beach time. It's much better since switching from exemestane to anastrozole and changing soaps.
>>37176294
>who is this weenie genie
No idea sorry breh.

Ay I'd be fine bringing clomid and caber on a domestic US flight right? Just gonna throw them in supp bottles, can't draw any attention tho because I also have LSD lel

I'm only gonna be taking test, but when should I be pinning? First thing in the morning, or last thing at night? Those are the only two times I can get a regular time on taking it. Night being the easier of the two, since with the morning, I'd have to be pinning at ~05:00, opposed to ~22:00.

It's just I've heard a lot of people saying that if you do it first thing, after a shower, you're up and about so it gets the juices flowing, and ensures the pin site doesn't get sore.

Starting my first cycle around October after a summer of cutting.

I'll be taking Test E, 250mg E3D for 12 weeks. I'll be getting Nolvadex for PCT. How much Arimadex should I get for an AI? The product I'm looking at comes with 28x 1mg tablets.

>>37173599
ever heard of a fourth you dumb nigger?

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>>37176442
wow, off teh gear? you pct or what? must felt like shit

>UD2.0
never heard of that diet. I always do carb cycling, which is very good imo, but also very extreme.

>>37176517
dove purely pampering. kek. It seemed to help with the red spots.

and indeed changing soaps. Neutral soap, withouth the crap

Gonna start cruising on test, 100mg e3d. I'm currently doing Layne Norton's PHAT routine.

Should I change to a different routine, or alter this one to have more volume?

If I should change, what's the best routine to stick with?

>>37173119
Becausr niggas got shit to

KeTo or psmf make being a human person unreasonably difficult

>>37176714
Also, what should I do for cardio with this? Just run long distances, or HIIT? Cardio is supposed to be more important if you're on gear.

Is there anyway to prevent accelerated hairloss when taking anavar? I have otc Rogaine but I'm unsure whether after stopping anavar&rogaine if my hair is going to be more fucked.

And yes I know there are better orals but this is what I could find

>>37174802
The former
Being sensible atm tho

>>37176801
retard

Been lifting for a year now, got a strict diet plan, looking after my body, just upset with the current gains.

Gone from 72kg to 81kg in the past 9 months, but aiming to get to 90kg by the 15 month mark (Christmas)

Currently only taking whey protein once a day, (around 50g of protein per serving) along with a high protein diet.

Any suggestions of drugs I can take to improve gains would be appreciated.

trying to avoid steroids at the moment as I don't want to lose the gains when I stop using them.

>>37176811
For? Roommate was using it for cutting and it was cheap. I'm not looking for obvious gains

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carbs feel so great, no wonder there are so many fat people.

>>37176905
>just upset with the current gains.
>Gone from 72kg to 81kg in the past 9 months
>upset with the current gains.
>upset
???

>trying to avoid steroids at the moment as I don't want to lose the gains when I stop using them.
this is utter bs. i never lose gains as you can see. You won't either if you just eat and train right.

stop believing in those fairytales

>>37176905
Creatine

>>37176914
use dnp if you want to cut
>cheap
lol what

>>37177010
Got it for around 50 cents/tab and didn't have to go through some sketchy online site.

Do you have any idea about the hairloss? I'd rather not do it if it means permanent hairloss. Genetically fucked for that already so that's my main concern, I've done research but haven't seen anything answering my question

>>37176979
>i never lose gains as you can see
Plus don't forget the part where you claim that when you were "natty" you huger than 99% of roid users. If only we had your worth ethic.

have been training for a year and reached deadlift of 120kg for reps, what kind of improvement can I expect on TRT? I've been on low free t and total t all this time.

>>37177080
maybe you should read about anavar first. Have you gotten it analyzed? is it 100% var? is it underdosed?

Any reason you don't want to pin? There is literally no reason to since you don't seem to be concerned about using illegal substances. You don't have to do huge doses and you won't turn into rich piano, wolverine uses roids and he is considered hot af by females

Start with minoxidil right away because why not, hop on finasteride when you start pinning.

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>>37176625
>must felt like shit
confirmed.

and analgirl went on a date with a guy in a wheelchar.
we cuck now

ima alpbox him tho

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yo guys
first time roider here, have done my research and all for months.

Just took my first pin today - was clean, little blood, in the quad(soz, couldnt find 1 1/2 for glutes)

Quad is sore like a post workout. Is this normal? When will this go away? Does it get better next time I shoot? taking Test P and Tren A, e2d.

>>37176905
>/fraud/
>trying to avoid steroids
k

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>>37177139
wrong lind yolo

>>37176714
>>37176792
pls respond

>>37177167

are there any drugs that do similar effects but not the long term fucking up of your body? don't want to get massive, just to a solid 90kg then go natural from there on

>>37176905
brown rice and chickem

>>37177188
If you go above your natty limit, then you will go back down to it if you ever stop.

That's why roiding is 4 lyfe if you wanna stay big.

Some people roid until they reach their natty limit, then stop there.

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>>37177188
do you think we'd be here if there was nigger
nothing will happen to your body, its just the media who over hypes the death of stars and blame it on steroids.

Just dont be a retard, do your research for a couple of weeks, and gl anon.

>>37176562
bump

What time does everybody else here pin?

>>37177188
>are there any drugs that do similar effects but not the long term fucking up of your body?
look into sarms and peptides

>>37177188
HGH

>>37177231
All day. I carry a tank of Venom on my back

>Bane Mode.

>>37169089
She's turning down a high value partner. Goofy stuff. She messaged me on fb asking me to text her, last night while I was getting shitty partying around the campfire.

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>>37177115
1. if everyone on this board would give their 100%, regarding to diet and training instead of only pinning, everyone would be much bigger

2. I probably don't have bad genetics

3. believe whatever you want to believe

>>37177139
>and analgirl went on a date with a guy in a wheelchar.
serious? but how. That's some sick cucking right there

rip

slapbox his weelchair. trow his ass of a cliff

>>37177188
>don't want to get massive, just to a solid 90kg then go natural from there on
HAHHAHAHA

he felt for the 'i just wanna do 1 cycle' meme. lmao