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Is the Overhead Press the biggest meme in gym history? >does

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Is the Overhead Press the biggest meme in gym history?

>does fuckall for aesthetics compared to lat raises
>needlessly complicated lift for a simple set of muscles
>higher risk of injury than other shoulder excercises
>takes up a perfectly good squat rack
>piss easy to cheat on

i find that simply doing a few sets of Lat Raises and Reverse Flyes have done more for my shoulder size in a month than all my years of Overhead Pressing combined.
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>>37024661
post a pic of yourself so we can see where that has gotten you
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lat raises are good but OHP involves a lot more than your deltoids

OHP is a god-tier lift
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>>37024661
>takes up a perfectly good squat rack

Post a pic dyel manlet
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If you dont OHP, then you dont carry / throw your gf in bed, never gonna make it OP.
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>>37024661
I currently don't OHP because my goal is not being ashamed of my bench.

However I'd say overhead press is a feat of strength more than a bodybuilding accessory.
That's kinda the point of classic lifts.
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>>37024661
>femanon

I almost got mad til I saw your trip. Of course you wouldn't know what the fuck you are talking about...
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I can OHP 155 1 rep max am i making it?
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>>37024661
>higher risk of injury
Its safer than bench press
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>>37024726
Exactly, if you can't pick up your girl then you ain't a man
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oh wait... so OP is a girl?
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>>37024795
If you weigh less than 170 you're getting there
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>>37024661
this thread is a fucking meme, it has to be
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>>37024661
>piss easy to cheat on

so don't cheat on it. honestly, OP, how hard is it to lock out your legs and use the targeted muscle group? if you feel the urge to cheat you've got the wrong mentality. honest gains > cheating.

why is cheating even a thing when it isn't a competition, it's just you and your sets? maybe i'm dumb, but how do people think like that? it reminds me of those videos of crossfitters doing pullups...yeah, it may be a more proficient pullup in the real world where you have to climb atop something, but did they forget it's a fucking exercise designed to challenge certain muscles only?
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>>37024747
why don't you just OHP on a separate push day?
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>>37025045
also, if you're going to cheat, then "cheat" by practicing a push press. different exercise but it's the intention to use your legs to drive your torso and the weight up
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>>37024795
Is that a lot?

I OHP 135lbs and I've been lifting since January.
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>>37024661
>one of the best overall compound lifts for strength and mass.
Better make a gay thread convincing otherwise
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>>37024747
You realize OHP also helps your bench?
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>being an adult male
>having a sub 2plate press
pick one
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>>37024661
>needlessly complicated lift
How fucking complicated is pushing a bar over your head?
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>>37024711
>doing a different lift just to OHP
squat rack is the right way
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OHP is pretty sick. Conquering a truly challenging weight feels triumphant when you have it locked out. It punishes you for bad form more than any other lift IMO. If you're form isn't on point, it ain't going past your forehead. Good for shoulder health when done properly, as well. That being said, benching will develop more strength and aesthetics, but both lifts are a necessity.
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>>37024661
>>37025453

op confirmed retarded
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>>37025585
>If you're form isn't on point, it ain't going past your forehead
lel uwot
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>>37025427

>Being an adult male
>Not doing a 2plate "The Press"
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>>37025631

>never failed a heavy OHP

Spotted the dyel
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"cheating" on OHP is a Push Press you fucking moron
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>>37024747
>However I'd say overhead press is a feat of strength more than a bodybuilding accessory

Spotted the dyel

You HAVE to lift heavy if you're a bodybuilder

Compound exercises stimulate the most muscle growth

FFS where are all these retards coming from?

READ THE STICKY
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>>37024661
>Start with Bench or DB Press
>Move to OHP
>Finish with lat raises

Don't rely on one movement. That being said, if OHP is the best for shoulder development by far, not even debatable. Try doing just lat raises strictly with no OHP and watch your shoulders shrink.
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>been lifting since february
>can still only lift the bar
Help
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>>37026022
Do you have polio?
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>>37026022
get microplates asap. OHP is the biggest fucking bitchmove you will ever encounter in the gym and there's probably no exercise harder to get better at.
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>>37026211

I bought 1.25 lb plates early into SS. I started with the bar and now I'm at 100 pounds. 1.25 on each side means you go up by 2.5 instead of 5 and deloading every week.
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>>37026211
Flat broke atm. Couldn't I just include it in every training session (doing SL) and train to failure?
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>>37026252
It's why I'm liking Greyskulls. The weight increases are much more reasonable and you don't have to bother with deloading early on.
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>>37024661
>>needlessly complicated lift for a simple set of muscles
What the fuck is so complicated?

>Set bar up to correct height
>Put weight on bar
>Grab bar
>Move bar
It's the same amount of work you put into any exercise. Hell, less work since you're going to be loading on less weight compared to a bench or a squat.
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>>37024661

>takes up a perfectly good squat rack

either use the seated OHP rack or be a man and pick a barbell up off the ground for military press
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>>37025631
poor form usually means people have their grip too far apart and don't activate their glutes and core before starting the rep, if you don't do that you're not going to be able to put as much weight up period
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>>37026417
stop spreading this meme, it's not funny or smart
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OHP sucks when you stall

Probably one of the best feelings to go up in weight, though
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>>37026438
equally poor form in ohp could be whipping your hips which would get more weight up but would completely defeat the purpose of the exercise
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>>37026438
how far do you grip the bar? I have my pinky just inside of the bearing on the bar
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>>37026472
>whipping your hips

?
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>>37026494
just wider than your shoulders is the best position imo, you want your arms to be as vertical as possible when at lockout, the further your arm is from the vertical the wider the angle is, which means you're exerting more force than you need to to get the bar up

70s big did a good video on it, it's probably in the thread somewhere
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>>37026268
literally ten dollars per pair
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>>37024661
2/10 you fucking skinnyfat
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>>37026498
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7erVblY7aiU
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>>37024661
>takes up a perfectly good squat rack
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

THERE'S A FUCKING SEAT DEVISED FOR OHP YOU FUCKING KEK

DON'T FUCKING USE THE SQUAT RACK YOU GOD DAMN CUNT I AM MAD LAD
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>>37024795
only if that's kilos
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>>37025045
> Honest gains > cheating
Gains are gains.
This isn't a game when you get penalised for "cheating". There are different approaches to things - not everyone has to do what you deem right
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>>37026685
oh right, well surely it's common sense not to do that anyway, if i ever feel like i'm going to have to bend my back like that to get the bar up i just rack it, it's not worth damaging your back for the sake of a PR that you'll probably get in a few weeks anyway
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>>37026022
>Been lifting since 3000 B.C.
>Still can't lift my fingers up to the keyboard to type posts
>Had to use a speech-to-text device to post this
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>>37026252
For OHP, 2.5-lb jumps were still to much for me because I'm a weak little bitch. I bought 0.5-lb plates (for 1-lb jumps). 1 lb per workout is still 180 lbs a year.
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>>37026714

>seated press
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>>37026452

>can't clean 1 measly plate from the floor
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>>37026919
>losing energy from cleaning when you could use a rack and grind an extra rep out instead
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>>37026919
yeah bro, I clean, jerk, and behind the head OHP negative my squats because I'm also a fucking retard.
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Obvious bait is obvious
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>>37024661
>>higher risk of injury than other shoulder excercises
How can you injure yourself with an OHP short of dropping the bar on your nose like a retard?
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>>37027200
Going below 90 degrees with too much weight could snap your shoulder
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>>37027221
shut up you retard
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>Implying being able to lift heavy weights above your head isn't the second most alpha lift, losing only to the deadlifts
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>>37026997

>cleaning 1plate actually drains him
>laughinggirls.jpg
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>>37024795
I do 132 5x5, but I am fat as fuck.
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>>37026714
>squating in the press rack
just fucking clean the bar and do front squats
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>>37024726
This has been my favorite part of making sick gainz
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>>37024726
This is all the motivation I needed to start lifting, still cant OHP though
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>>37027266
Make me
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>>37027221
Yep, pretty much the same as a deadlift in that regard
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>>37026741
True, but when a movement is performed the intention is that it will work a certain muscle group. What's the point in cheating when you can just do a different exercise? Don't look at it as cheating but bad form if that helps.
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I don't get how people can dislike the OHP and not strive to improve on it. I get that its hard, but whats more satisfying than strictly pushing weight like that over your head? Shits metal, man. Also, I don't do much besides OHP for my shoulders, and they're p sexy if I do say so myself.
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>>37024661
>needlessly complicated lift for a simple set of muscles

Lifting shit over your head is a basic life skill.

If you can't, then do the following:
>lift a barbell over your head
>drop it
>die
>your kids won't exist, so we don't have to put up with your autistic shit.
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>>37026022
do it with dumbbells
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>>37027200
I actually popped something in my neck from straining too hard recently. OHP wasn't the issue per say, more the last straw. My guess is that shit form on other lifts set me up for failure. Slept in an airplane pillow for a week. Just don't be a retard and lift when injured--especially if it's your neck.
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>>37027221
that's not even true senpai
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>>37029765
Then I have a weak right shoulder, because it always pops and snaps quite often when I go below 90 degrees on bench or OHP with too much weight
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>>37026022
What the fuck? How much do you weigh? I really can't believe you can't push more than 45lbs over your head anon. That's some grade school tier shit anon.
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>>37027279
weighted pullups > deadlift > barbell rows > ohp

ohp would be manly if you could lift more and look more intimidating, but most people can't.
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>>37024661
After 7 months and 23 days i finally hit 1plate today ohp
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>>37024661
I've got pretty big shoulders, and I'd attribute 90% of the mass to OHP and <10% to raises.
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>>37030691
Congrats. It's a pretty sweet milestone.
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>>37031353
Thanks man! One step closer to making it!
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Do it seated on a smith machine. This way you will be able to focus on your shoulders. The part you intend to work with OHP.

Standing OHP is a shitty exercise for aesthetics because you will not be able to lift that much weight when you have to focus on balance and not fucking up your spine primarly. It's a good accesory exercise for powerlifting/oly lifting though.
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>>37024661
>takes up a perfectly good squat rack
manlet detected
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>>37024661
Ohp has probably helped me the most of all lifts. Its fuckimg fantastic.

A) like all badass compounds it helps with aesthetics insofar as helping build a ton of muscle quickly. It works all your shoulders some upper chest, core and ass too.

B) its really not complicated in the slightest. Compared to deadlifts or good bench/squat form ohp is easier even.

C) citation needed. Unless you go full retard and use bad form or go way too heavy you should be fine. I've had zero problems so far, I think dumbell overhead press and behind neck shit is bad though.

D) Tue enough. But its a good exercise so I'd hardly see its a waist. Try clean pressing 135 lbs up to your shoulders for a strict press and then lowering it after 5 reps safely. Not fun.

E) no easier than benching. Ease to cheat isn't an issue anyways. Your own ineptitude at lifting doesnt disparage the lift.
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Why has OP made this thread like 5 times today?
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>>37024661
Question: Where do you do OHP in your gym? How do you set up for it?
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>>37031432
Sitting your fatass down puts more pressure on your spine while OHP's then standing. Dumbass
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>>37024661
>Be fatass me.
>Do OHP 1.5 times per week.
>Joocy delts popping out of fat within a month.
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>>37024661
>because it doesn't do anything for aesthetics, it's a meme

People who think the gym is about training only to bodybuild should be shot.
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>>37024661
>i find that simply doing a few sets of Lat Raises and Reverse Flyes have done more for my shoulder size in a month than all my years of Overhead Pressing combined.


>It's absolutely not possible that human bodies are different, every single person has the same body type and react the same to an exercise like me
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I saw better results in six weeks of emphasizing BP over the OHP than three months of the reverse. It hasn't slowed down my boxing either.
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Tfw
>OHP 235
>have huge ass god tier delts
Stay skelly
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>>37024726
I literally do not lift and I have no problem doing this, why are you dating whales anon?
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>>37032784
you can't just say that.
Pic and natty status required
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T bar Press > ohp
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>>37024661
Ohp was by far my weakest lift when I started lifting

I started lifting because I couldn't lift trusses overhead

Now I can lift trusses overhead and I'm much better at my job
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>>37024661
OHP is my favourite and strongest lift by far. I have OHPd 97.5kg before while my Squat was only 120kg, simply because I focussed so much on OHP. I just leave the feeling of it. This complete primal domination of the weight. It's just great. Also my shoulders are probably my only slightly remarkable bodypart as a result of this lel.
I look pretty shit though, so you should take that with a grain of salt I guess.
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>>37026211
Or fool around with the rep ranges to have progressive overload.
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>>37026268
Buy a meter (3 feet) of big (the biggest the shorter to use as microplate) chain, weight 500 g or what you need and cut two pieces of the same lenght. Lock the chains to the bar with the collars or a big carabiner. Inexpensive and portable.
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>>37024661
It's the best fucking lift for aesthetics. Grills love nice shoulders.
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>>37024661
>>does fuckall for aesthetics compared to lat raises
comparing a compound exercise to an isolation is useless. OHP uses so much more muscles than just your shoulders. Let alone the carry over and CNS.
>>needlessly complicated lift for a simple set of muscles
A side raise is a simple excersize, an OHP is not. Hence you are complaining here
>>higher risk of injury than other shoulder exercises
I take it you still ride your bike with training weels because it has less chance of injury?
>>takes up a perfectly good squat rack
cleaning the weight you OHP isnt hard
>>piss easy to cheat on
you mean a push press? All are legitimate exercises

>woman complaining things are hard and want people to pamper telling her she is right

I fucking hate woman like yoi
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>>37032889

Get. Away. From. /fit/
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>>37024661
>Looks manly as fuck

That's all it needs
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>>37031432
you're a retard with no knowledge of biomechanics
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>>37026252
WTF why are going deloading every weight ? SS just goes straight up
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>>37024661
>simple set of muscles
what makes one set of skeletal muscles simpler than another?
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Even people who don't dead or squat do OHP. Do it you sperg
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>>37024661
>complains that lat raises does more aesthetically then OHP as if those exercises target the same heads of the deltoïds
>Literally benchpress only while standing up
>implying the high risk of injury isn't due to normies fucking up/not giving a shit about form
>implying the fault lies with the person doing OHP in the squatrack and not at the gym for not having enough material to cater to their cliëntelle
>implying cheating on the lift will still give you worthwhile progression and will not lead to stalling or injury very early on
>femanon
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>>37033273
never speak to me or my wife's son again
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>>37024726
Recently noticed I can front raise her with no effort at all, something I couldn't do before I started OHPing near my max.
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