What is the hardest lift to achieve out of 1/2/3/4 and why

>>37010675
Tbh squat and ohp are my best lifts in regards of 1/2/3/4
Im at 125 for ohp and 265 for squat

>>37010675
It isn't.
2plate bench for working sets took me the longest

All those are fairly easy to achieve

They don't require any specific program or even a good diet. You literally need the patience to lift for 1 year MAX

>>37010675
it isnt because i actually got it first
then bench
waiting on OHP and deadlift...

>>37010675

Deadlift and OHP always feel attainable to me. It's when I start imagining putting that weight on my shoulders or balance it over my chest that I get really blocked, psychologically. Like what the fuck, this weight that I was struggling to deadlift, on my shoulders? Do you know?

>>37010707
Lifting one year here and i'm kind of close to 1/2/3/4 as 1RM but i would have to go on an epic bulk to have them as working sets anytime soon.

>>37010675

>155lb ohp 3x5
>245lb bp 3x5
>315lb bs 3x5
>340lb dl 2x5

Why deadlift, WHY!

>OHP: 90lbs x 5
>bench: 160lbs x 5
>squat: 205lbs x 5
>diddly: 265lbs x 5

Just sen my shit up fuckpai lmao

Checked symmetric strength this morning and OHP is at -15%

>>37010675
3 plate squat is the easiest one.

>>37010906
No it isn't, pushing yourself on squats is tough. Bench and OHP are pretty easy to train a lot.

>>37011002

No, 3pl8 squat is the easiest one. Nothing progresses quite like the squat.

TFW beyond 1/2/3/4 and still look like shit

M-maybe once those weights are my working sets I will look good

>>37010675
Depends on your anatomy and how well you are doing the lift since in last 2 years of liftan majority of people don't squat deep or even to parallel.

>>37011083
How big are you lad? 1/2/3/4 for 1 rm is not that effective for your physique however once you start doing 1/2/3/4 for reps you will notice a difference for me my chest only start exploding once I hit the 90 kg range for 5x5.

>>37011111

FUCKING CHECKED

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>>37011111
I am 200lbs, 5'10, currently cutting. I don't look fat but I'm not definitely not lean. Pic is my "training max" which is about 90% of my real max (doing 5/3/1 BBB)

I achieved 2pl8 bench and 3pl8 squat before I even turned 16. And then when I turned 16 I stopped lifting for 3 years. Literally retarded. I wish I could go back in time and tell my younger self not to be such a dipshit.

>>37011146
>5'10
>200 lbs
Well that's why you're not looking lean man, especially as a beginner intermediate. Just keep up with the cut and honestly diet (Cut out all sugars except for fruit) is the biggest thing i've noticed that helped with getting rid of the puffiness and lower abdomen fat.
I think you're on the right track though just need to lose bit more weight and maintain.

>>37011248
My goal is to be 170lbs and squatting and deadlifting 70 more lbs, benching and pressing 30-40 more lbs, by next year. I'm on track, losing 1lb/week and increasing my max by 5/10lbs a month. Hopefully I don't stall.

>>37010675
>tfw I'm at 1/1/1/1

I've basically accepted that my OHP will never progress

>>37011301
You could be more genetically gifted than me but I really doubt that you can achieve that goal for upper body especially for bench since it suffers so much when cutting, I could definitely see some squat and DL gains (Had a friend lose 20 lbs and advance his DL by 30 lbs) however at 170 or reaching to it you're gonna start stalling.

>110x3 OHP
>155x3 bench
>265x5 squat
>335x3 deads

J U S T
U
S
T

>>37010675
2 plate bench was always hardest for me
>start lifting
>hit 1 plate OHP, then 4 plate dead, then 3 plate squat, 2 plate bench comes much later, relatively speaking
>quit lifting
>start lifting again
>1 plate OHP, then 3 plate squat, then 4 plate dead, 2 plate bench still takes much more time to hit
Wingspan 5" longer than height is my excuse

>>37010816
Post squat and dead form checks
Your routine is probably also holding you back

>>37010720
I struggle to understand how one can bench 225 lb but not press 135 lb overhead

>>37010851
You're weak in every lift, stop caring about proportion of lifts and just get stronger

>>37010906
>>37011056
>I only do half squats

>>37011362
Maybe. I can live with smaller gains. I used to be making double to triple the strength gains I'm making now before I started cutting. I was at 170 last year and had visible, but not very pronounced abs. I'm hoping I gained 10-15lbs of muscle and will be lean enough at 170 to have pronounced abs.

I've hit 1pl8 OHP for one rep but I'm not even close to 2/3/4.

>>37011111
Quints god

>>37010675

The hardest lift is whatever one you have to jump 20kg minimum on to progress.

>Used to be in a good gym, carpets old and the equipment had clocked up miles but was otherwise solid and functional
>Make 4/3/2/1 Dl/Sq/Bn/Ohp
>Start working towards new plate targets
>At .5 / .75 plates for each lift
>Gym refurbishes
>Gym is specifically targeting female audience
>Everything redone, more cardio treadmills and cable stations than the lands of Killgainsia
>Now only has 20kg + 10kg Plates and a vibrating plate machine that jiggles you fat free apparently
>Raise issue with Gym Receptionists + Filling suggestion box
>Told straight up that it was to simplify things for new customers
>Every so often you see a 1.25 plate, by itself on the racks / trees. It's a different brand to the new ones every time and you never see it again.
>Now I just steal them

>>37011449
Go to a different gym
Bring your own plates

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>135/60 OHP x 1
>175/80 Bench x 3
>215/100 Squat x3
>365/165 DL x 1
I know my squat is worse, but people tend to rag on my shitty bench more than anything ,what do I need to fix first?

>>37010675
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7urf9t20hw3n8ce/perfect_symmetry.xlsx?dl=0
3 plate squat are eqal to a 110 kg bench press

>>37010692
Are you me?

>tfw my 5RM squat is, at most, only 15 kilos heavier than my 5RM bench

life is suffering. I'm fine with such a poverty bench (not even bw) but I don't want to focus on my bench too much either and end up becoming stronger on bench than squats.

>>37011146
Doing 5/3/1? I have the Same app.

>>37010707

Only with good genetics.

>>37010675
Bench is hardest for me. Ohp, squat and deads are cake compsred to my garbage bench.

>thought id feel strong at 1 2 3 4
>currently at 190/300/375/460 still feel week
>i-it will end at 2 3 4 5 right

>>37012088
It'll end when you get self esteem.

>>37012104
Im a manlet tho

>>37010675
If it's the three plate squat for you I assume you're going into lifting from a skelly with no sports background. Fatties I know who get into lifting always have relatively strong legs. I went into lifting after decades of hockey and hit a three plate squat after 6 months lifting.

>>37010688
similar story here, 130/195/275/325 5RM

>>37012162
Stable self esteem isn't built on innate/born characteristics like height. It's based on a fundamental belief in the worthiness of your efforts. Don't base your worth on the approval of others--not men, not women, not your parents.

See a therapist.

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>>37010675
This is good!

>>37012215
Sounds like copypasta

>>37012215
>see a therapist
Fuck off beta

>>37012245
Stable self esteem isn't built on innate/born characteristics like height. It's based on a fundamental belief in the worthiness of your efforts. Don't base your worth on the approval of others--not men, not women, not your parents.

See a therapist.

>>37012245
>>37012254
I'm serious, if some guy who's close to 2/3/4/5 is still filled with worry about his strength he has issues he needs to work out. Seeing a therapist isn't beta, an alpha has a stable mental state and therapy is the way to get there.

>>37010675
155lbs OHP
265lbs BP
N/A
N/A
lmaooo

>>37012286
Get a load of this guy . jpg

>>37010675
For me the bench is the hardest. I got to 3 plate squat first, then I got to 1 plate OHP. Now I'm at 365 dead and 215 bench. So close, brehs. Wonder which I'll get first, the 4 plate diddly or 2 plate bench....

>>37010675
I hit 4pl8 deadlift first within like a few months but I just focused all my time on that one lift. I hit 1pl8 ohp really quickly as well. I just hit 3pl8 squat and I still cant bench 2pl8. Id like to blame my 6'10 wingspan but I'm just being a bitch. Less then a year or strength training. Wasted a year doing machines and just losing way too much weight

>>115 OHP
>>205 bench
>>275 squat
>>365 dl

How close am I to making it /fit/?

>>37010675
My hardest was the deadlift because i was a bitch. Now i am almost at a 5 plate deadloft, and my bench is only at 275, ohp at 185, and squat still at just over 3 plate for reps. Squats used to be my favorite, but i just cant seem to get over the mental hurtle of all that weight sitting on my shoulders while i proceed to have the least stabiloty possible.

>probably going to hit 5pl8 squat soon unless injury
>still not even close to 2pl8 ohp
whats wrong with me

>>37010758
Because failing on bench and squat without a spotter is a lot scarier then failing a dead or ohp.

>>37011090
Exactly. All i see are fags doing quarter rom. When i see it i quietly, and unassumingly, decide that today is leg day. I then proceed to do the same weight as them, ass to grass. I dont look at them or say anything, and i just hope they get the clue.

>>37012385
what are safeties?

>>37012215
you're p.tops

have a good day :)

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>>37010675
>hardest is 3 pl8 squat

Maybe if you're a manlet.

>4pl8 DL 5 months ago
>3pl8 squat 4 months ago
>2pl8 bench 4 months ago
>no 1pl8 OHP yet
Why?

>>37012403
Most people are just using a regular bench outside of a power rack and have no idea about the roll of shame. Also I know a lot of people really uncomfortable failing squats. We are talking about beginner lifters here. Not advanced

>>37010692
this desu senpai. I hit everything else for reps long before 2pl8 for reps

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>always the big 4
>no one gives a fuck about them pendlays
why bother senpai

>>37012088
Not till 4 5 6 7.
I am almost to 2 3 4 5, and i am usually the strongest dude in the gym, but sometimes i see someone stronger, and it pisses me off. Not because i resent them, but because i know i have to work even harder.

>>37010816
probably shit form

>>37010675

I know a girl who can:

squat 155kg
deadlift 132kg
bench 55kg

I'm not making this shit up. How is that even possible, I don't know.

>>37012446
Right? I can 1rm a 5pl8 dead and I see some dude triple it and it pisses me off. I wanna do that.

>>37010675

>155lb ohp x 2
>185lb bp x 1
>385lb bs x 1
>395lb dl x 1

>Tfw my bench is so shit that my ohp is actually catching up to it

>>37012307
>no squat or dead

lol you weak as shit son

>>37012439
most people should have read ss.

>>37012479
This is 4chan. That would make too much sense.

Ohp 135x4
Bench 225x2
Squat >270x2
DL 335x3

I did 1pl8 ohp my first day on the gym. Genetics i guess. 3pl8 squat is going to be hardest for me cos my lower back hurts for the past week and i havent been training it.

>>37012464
The strength disparity between males and females is largely because of the upper body, lower body is pretty similar. You can see natty girls with big legs, but only roiding girls will have big upper bodies.

>>37012473
>155lb ohp x 2
>185lb bp x 1

I bet you need to fix your BP form.

Not really sure what you're asking, but ohp will always be the lowest numerical mass you'll lift.
Unless you lost your legs tho

>>37010675
For me it's the 3pl8 squat but that's because I listened to /fit/ and thought squats were a meme for a long time.

I was benching 260lbs and squatting 220lbs for a while... finally catching up though, squat is up to 300 after putting a lot more focus there.

>>37011308
On the bright side, you can only go up. :)

It took me under 6 months to squat 315, and I started with the bar, do you guys even eat?

>>37010675
>3pl8 squat is hard
>not starting with SS

>>37013312
Exactly how many times per week do people vomit at the sight of your fat

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>>37013468
never you fucking faggot

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I'm confused. Google says a plate is standard 20.4kg. So you're saying 1/2/3/4 is aiming for 20kg/40kg/60kg/80kg? Seems low

Could someone honestly answer if 1/2/3/4 is supposed to be for reps?

>>37011308
How can you OHP 60 but only DL 60?

That feel when
1/2.5/4/3

What is wrong with me senpai?

>>37013632
1/2/3/4 = 60kg/100kg/140kg/180kg = 135lbs/225lbs/315lbs/405lbs

>>37013773
that was a troll post you dumb fucking nigger

kys

>>37013632
Plates on each side, you dingus

>>37013780
holy shit, another dumb cunt that fell for an obvious troll post

Why is /fit/ full of lying niggers?... i have rarely seen anyone squat 3 plates or more unless theyre fat powerlifters...

>>37013600
Ok i take it back.

>>37013866
>Why is /fit/ full of lying niggers?.
More like full of DYELs

>>37013773
Thanks! Appreciated

>>37013797
Wasn't a troll post, new to lifting.

>tfw 0.75/1.2/1.75/2.1
Can I make it?

>>37014169
then you are a fucking retard for not understanding the most obvious shit ever

>>37012445
If you're rowing 90 and only diddlylifting 114, chances are you don't have super duper lats and traps, you're just doing retatd-tier swinging-half-upright-sperglord rows

>>37011530
dat 6 axis accelesquatomer

>>37011530
What is this exercise called?

>>37013736
Probably squat depth desu senpai

>>37011111
NICE

>>37014213
Yes, thank you for pointing out my obvious retardation, congratulations, you gimp.

>>37011530
What's he doing?

>>37011056
Squat requires the most exertion in terms of effort required to complete the lift vs the others

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>>37012324
yeah cause being a pathetic loser drowning in sorrow and bad self-esteem is infinitely better than seeing a therapist cause like talking about your feelings and stuff is beta, r-right guys we're a-alpha as fuck .. right?

>>37010675
I concur.

>>37013866
Does each plate HAVE to be 45lb for it to count?

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>OHP: 95lbs 4x5
>Bench: 170lbs 4x5
>Squat: 240lbs 2x5 followed by 245lbs 1x5
>Deadlift: 335lbs 1x5

>>37015324
45lb or 20kg, so basically yes.

Am I the only one who has hard time progressing diddly lifts or something

>>37015445
What about DL 4x10kg pl8. Cos I got that sorted.

>>37015539
lmao no

>>37010707
man you are a retard if you think this. everyone has different starting points.

>>37010692
This. Everything else involved large muscle groups and you improve those muscles quickly.
The bench is really an isolating movement and you need to watch out for the shoulder, too.

>>37012215
you are a good person and i hope u post more often and have a nice life

Squat is defiantly hardest for me. Squatted a lot in high school and maxed out at 290 before I graduated. Started squatting again and still struggling(current toy at 190x5). Bench was always the easiest, got to 2pl really quickly then would rep 2pl no problem not much later. Got 225x9 today. Never deadlifted until a few weeks a go and maxed out at 305 with out ever doing it before so will prob achieve 4pl soon. Never ohp and don't plan on it

ohp, deadlift, squat, bench in that order

>>37012088
You never become satisfied
3/4/5
right now and still feel weak
4/5/6?
I'm just gonna lift till I can't add any more weight to the bar

>>37010675
>145 x 5 OHP
>215 x 5 Binch
>325 x 5 Squat
>375 x 5 Diddly
I used to have a stronger dead lift in relation to my other lifts but it has turned into the hardest goal to complete for me

>started lifting in 7th grade as a total bro
>hit 1pl8 OHP and 2pl8 bench
>squat was 260
>diddlylift was 300
I fucked up real bad desu

>>37010675
For whatever reason, my squat just stopped at 285lb for like two months, and then started progressing very quickly.
Press: 3 months
Deadlift: 5 months
Bench: 6 months
Squat: 8 months

By the time I had my 3pl8 squat, I was getting close to 5pl8 deadlifts.

200 ohp 5x5/ 275 BP 5x5/ 405 squat 5x5/ 405 DL 5x5

I don't think I can make any more significant gains for squat/DL until I put more work into my core.

>>37016046
You're probably half repping

>>37016061
Half repping deadlifts? I wasn't aware that you could do it.

>>37013600
get the fuck out of here chad

It's squat because my knees are fucked beyond helping. I'm already up to 1pl8 OHP for working sets and I'm closing in on 2pl8 bench/4pl8 diddylift for 1RM. Haven't squatted since January...

>>37010675
Nice try with the Photoshop with the pic on the right.

>>37010675
statistically 4pl8 deadlift is the most advanced lift, though I think it's squat because squat's are the most difficult to preform

>>37014611
Every point of contact is another place he can take a dick.

>>37010675

lifting for about a month now
>OHP:105 3x5
>Deadlift:225 1x5
>bretty gud
>bench:135 3x5
>squat:105 5x5
>J U S T

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>>37010675
OHP: 125lb x5
Bench: 175lb x5
Squat: 215lb x5
Deadlift: 305lb x3

Was making good progress then college came in and wrecked my shit. I barely get sleep anymore and haven't been eating enough. Hopefully during the summer I can take less of a workload and rid myself of these gain goblins.

>>37016773

that's omar isuf, aint not photoshop boi dyel

>>37012015
kek dw
my bench is 10kg heavier than my squats

>>37012445
There's no fucking way you're doing proper pendlay rows m8.
I DL twice as much as you do and even i have trouble with 100kg pendlay row

>>37015621
> bench is an isolating movement

>>37010675
>closeted homosexuals will tell you to be attracted to the 2015 picture is completely heterosexual
>traps are 'homosexual'
kek

>>37010675
>tfw severe back injury means i wont squat or deadlift properly again


Death is a more plesent fate

I always thought it was 2 squat, 3 bench

>squat 260lbs/120kg
>deadlift exact same
HELP
it's not even grip strength either

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>>37020095
manlet

>>37020095
Lmao I squat 80kgx5 absolute best and deadlift 130kgx5 pretty easily. Teach me how to get dat squat PLEASE

>lifting for numbers

God i hope every one of you actually powerlifts lol.

>full rom
>maxing out
A complete waste of time and effort if you play any sport. If you run in a sport you don't need to squat any lower than 2/3rd parallel and you only need front squats. The only deadlift variation that does anything functional to performance is the one legged or 'B Stance' deadlift. Below parallel is for power lifters and oly lifting athletes ONLY. Bench is a competition power lift. Not even a full arm extension. OHP/pp/jerk press trio is forever better in every way.

>>37020157
>haha, t-this is why I quarter squat, I s-swear
>it's not because I'm a pussy

>>37020157
>If you run in a sport you don't need to squat any lower than 2/3rd parallel
Doesn't a parallel squat strengthen the posterior chain more, which is pretty the most important muscle group for sprinting?

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>>37011111
>mfw solid quints
>mfw solid advice
>mfw /fit/ is great again
FUKKEN WITNESSED

>>37020095
Are you me?

>>37020191

Yes.

There's other reasons for squatting to depth (particularly related to knee health, both in training and on the field) and times with really good reasons for squatting high but the back end is really important in a lot of sports

>>37020055
It is, and 1pl8 diddly and 4pl8 press. It's pretty much just common sense

Bench OHP DL then Squat easiest to hardest for me. Cant squat for shit. I bench 2pl8 with ease but it takes the same effort if not more to squat 2pl8. This is after SS too. Currently on a modified TM. Might have to Smolov eventually.

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>>37014632
>squat more exerting than deadlift

Who else is 1/2/0/4 like me?

>RIP knees

>>37012412
implying manlets aren't at an unfair advantage squatting

I'm lifting since December and I'm at 0.75/1.5/2.25/3. How long do you guys think it would take to reach 1/2/3/4?

I'm 5'11" manlet king and 207 lbs.

>>37010707
>lifting a whole year for 1/2/3/4

>>37012596
>Ohp 135x4
>I did 1pl8 ohp my first day on the gym

so you decided to not do them anymore?

>>37013282
>listened to /fit/ and thought squats were a meme
what the fuck?
/fit/ tells you to squat all day erryday.

>>37013699
"reaching 1/2/3/4" is usually 1rm, but if people ask how much your lifts are, you'll usually respond reps.
So it differs a bit, but once you've got 1rm foot in the door, repping 1/2/3/4 shouldn't be far off.

>>37012424
youuu lackuu disruprine!

Bench. Definitively. I can do a 200kg deadlift and 100kg C&J, but 100kg bench? Fuck no

>>37021895
Different guy but same boat. I worked up to 155 and then realized my form is shit. I keep deloading and trying to perfect it.

I'm at 145 3x5 now, and I think my form is a lot better. I might just go with the hypertrophy range for that. Ohp started as the easiest lift for me and now it's really fucking with my brain.

>>37012286
>>37012215
>>37014664
>am not impressed by my lifts
>not even 2 3 4 5
>everyone itt says I need therapy
Know how I know you're all small?

80KG PRESS
140KG BENCH PRESS
180KG SQUAT
200KG DEADLIFT

2.5 months lifting
>115x3 OHP
>175x6 Bench
>185x8 Squat (maxed 245lbs once)
>275x3 DL

I think by the time I've been lifting a year I'll be close, only weigh 155lbs atm

>tfw can't bench and ohp because i fucked up my shoulder on the pec deck when I was a lifting newbie a few years ago
fucking kill me pls

>>37013230
and their OHP likely

>>37011422
I struggle to understand how one cant bench 225 lb but can press 135 lb overhead

Good form + strong chest + strong arch for bench
I'm very close on OHP at least.

>>37012385
Do people really not know when they can or can't put up the weight. Even if you fail on a bench, you can literally roll the weight off of you.

>>37021436
You should reach 1/2/3/4 in June assuming you are doing SS or SL

tfw when reached 1/2/3/4 and 1000lb so long ago in highschool that I take for granted the work and grinding it took to get there just because I can't remember.