/owg/ - Olympic Weightlifting General

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>mfw i'm finally getting a home gym

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>>36988500

one for you guys
https://www.instagram.com/p/BE1qsT0qsLr/?taken-by=ooosorio

>>36988605
shouldve done sum bb work

>>36988662
broad bone?

>>36988605
is wrist kill???

>>36988691
forearm?
I think he tried to make a comeback but it didnt happen

>>36988690
bodybolding

>>36988699
making a joke because the bone snapped.

>>36988708
ahahhahahaha

good one

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>>36988696
wait did he snap both his radius/ulna?

>>36988717
not my fault you didnt get it and think bb would have helped.

>>36988747
you're a fucking retard if you think his bone snapped and think bb wouldn't have helped with what happened to him

>>36988927
Watch the webm and see why it snapped in the first place.
He tried to save the lift when it went behind his head, no amount of bb would have helped you fucking newbie.

>>36988744
nah, his elbow

>>36989002
>He tried to save the lift when it went behind his head

he regularly misses his jerks behind you fucking newbie who dont know what he talmbout lmao

>>36989153
lol alright

>>36989216
hehe i know

>>36989279
Why are we the only people keeping this alive right now

>>36989285
bcuz u r a gay

im making PRs left and right, i dont need this place no mo senpai

>>36989316
You lift at a crossfit gym or a weightlifting gym?
I can't pay this 120 a month anymore senpai, especially with no coach

>>36989326
no i go to calstremf

what's the 120 for

>>36989336
Its just to lift whenever I want basically.
Used to have a coach, but they moved over the winter so no point paying that much anymore

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posting clarence until we get to the front page

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>>36989993
got powerlift 2.0s today and i was walking around the house in them, lower back felt activated as fuck after 5 mins

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>>36989997
check em

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>>36990002
fug

>>36989997
why does he 'sit in' to the squat at the end?

>>36990023
it would be weird if he "stand in" to the squat bro

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>>36990023
not 100% sure tbpf senpai
could be because of long femurs combined with going as low as possible?
>>36990056
posters like you are the reason this thread has gone to shit

>>36990066
>posters like you are the reason this thread has gone to shit

says the guy who just bought his wl shoes

lmao

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>>36990076
lol fair point, although at the gym i go to you rent out wl shoes for like 50 cents a session so it's not like i started last week f a m

>>36990104
>not like i started last week

so two weeks was enough to make you an authority in these threads since you can make webms huh

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>>36990113
don't be upset. look you're derailing the thread again

>>36990130
ur the fucking faggot everyone hates just cause you dont post with a trip rn makes u think i dont u

but i do

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i don't really post that often senpai i think you have me mixed up with someone else

does Clarence juice? I don't see how he can be so strong and not want to compete

>>36990066
>could be because of long femurs combined with
stop giving answers to things you know nothing about

>>36990318

yes

there's no way he could be natural especially with robotic knees

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post wl waifu

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sickening jerk

felt pretty ez but my extension isnt full and my elbows didnt go up like i wanted

jerk was just unstable

couldnt stand with 145 :^(

>>36990020

that's the most exaggerated scapular retraction I've ever seen

Hey bros im a powerlifter but I was hoping for some advice on Oly lifts. Im trying to work on my Clean and Jerk form but im not sure how I should be progressing in weight since im not a dedicated Oly lifter and only do it once a week. My form gets bad if the weight is to light and so ill bring the bar higher than I should, and my hip thrust becomes nonexsistent because im sort of rowing the bar since its so light. Obviously if its to heavy my form breaks down.

How should I go about getting the form down since I dont have anyone to coach me on it? I could always post again for a form check I guess

>>36991833
My coach had me go really heavy really often when i was starting to make me get more consistent, but obviously he was there to change things i needed to change.

>>36991870
Sounds like ur both idiots senpai

>>36991891
Idk bb seems 2 work 4 me

Saved from hell.

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How do I use my glutes from the bottom of the hole? I can't make my body understand

>>36991376
rip spine

How do I get my hips mobile lads

>>36988500
>https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mjgz5nmcikhhvnu/28iq3URWUW
dropbox link not found.

>>36994301
stretch
dont be sedentary

Dead thread, dead sport.

where u guys at

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Did I fall for the meme shoe?

>>36995901
They're sexy but you will look like a dick if you don't have a good total

My jerk is 17.5kg behind my clean

How do I get confidence to have same tech with Max weights as I do with lower ones?

>>36996001

repetition and consistency

I just came across this badly-formatted, oddly specific website

http://powercleanbible.com/

I want to take the advice but this guy's power clean PR is like 110kg or something?

anyone know anything about this?

>>36993676

probably because activating a muscle for the first time when you're in the hardest position on the squat sucks, just don't hyperextend your lumbar and you'll be fine

>>36990187
jesus christ

that reverse curl

>can out squat Rob Blackwell
>don't even lift as much as David M from CS

FuckME!

>>36997507

david seems like a reasonably good lifter

>>36997507
becuz ur tech is shit

you deadlift the bar up thats no good

>>36997472
There was no hint of reverse curling that ya moron

>>36997507
Penny finally dropping?

>>36997507
>>36997604

Seriously, durkz, mate, if you just took a few months to retune your body to actually performing the lifts correctly you'd actually see some dece progress. Three no point in having a 220 squat if you can't even clean 150 consistently and proficiently.

>>36997572
david is good, lots of the new cs kids have decent tech like i've been saying for the past few months

that includes me btw :DDD

>>36997507
his best snatch is 137.5, best clean off blocks is 170

best bsquat is 210 he struggles to dl 170 off the ground lol

>>36998042
That's interesting. Have their methods changed much?

>>36998042
Shame they are known for ugly lifting with worse music and a bad attitude

I also don't believe you have good tech ;^)

I already know you have a bad attitude tho

>>36998126
yeah, since torokhtiy came there's been more focus on using accessory lifts to fix technique rather than just cuing the athlete to do shit differently like they have before torokhtiy

>>36998147
look at devin, stephen ngo, david, kristen they all have been lifting for less than 3 years and have decent tech, idk what you define as good but i think a 120 snatch is good tech for lifting under a year?

>>36998152
calstrength's accessory lifts are always shit though

>>36998188
what do you mean? programming wise? they dont appear on program we do it based on what the lifter needs to focus on

like i said we've been doing what torokhtiy taught in his seminars, even the kids you dont see in videos that aren't weightlifters learn faster due to that

not everything we do is shown on film

>>36998177
I don't believe u snatch 120 8-)

But srs if you do yeah that's very good m8 most people don't get 100in a year

What age and weight? CS seem to be producing some good young lifters, desu they need to. Donny and Jon norf for all their critics were good but they need something proper coming through, Nicole lim and Scott hisaka are just Instagram personalities

>>36998233
A lot of the accessories they do are useless and dont transfer to the lift

>>36998246
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jshGa0skSnw

im not stephen btw, and not gonna tell u age and weight cause that's gonna identify me lol

>>36998261
how do you even know what we do? it's not shown on film, they dont film accessories and most of what's seen in videos are two days out of the 6 days the team trains, mostly wed and friday. technique is stuff is mostly tue/thurs and some sats

>>36998307
from what i've seen it's mostly not useful

but i dont really do any accessory besides squat and rack jerk

>>36998329
you need to do some rack holds your upper erectors are weak as shit

>>36998278
your either the devin guy or david m

wouldnt surpise me if you are david coz he looks like an autist desu

>>36998278
U the fat guy rnt u

>>36998332
i added them in ye. twice a week

>>36998329
https://www.instagram.com/p/BDExVaLGHVE/

here's one

like i said you wont be seeing them since they are not filmed

>>36998358
yeah that's ok

>>36998346
lol that kid dont come to cs anymore his brother jaden is a beast tho

>>36998344
devin hasn't snatched 120, david has been lifting for more than a year

>>36998278

>im not stephen

Shut up, Stephen.

People unironically go to calstrempth?

>>36998755
they produced national medalists unlike u tho

>>36998785
just wait

>>36998785
that means shit in the USA lol

>>36998344
devin looks like a bigger autist tbqh
>>36998755
Isn't that the best weightlifting place in the USA? Or are there other ones that are better?

>>36998785
Oh gosh you're right anon
Never making fun of calstrength again

>>36998859
p-podium gold

>>36998859
>calstrength
>best
Wew
I don't even hold usa wl in high esteem but now you're just insulting us

>>36998878
>I don't even hold usa wl in high esteem

exactly, cause you're so new it's hard to appreciate what usa wlers do

i used to hate usa wl too then i started competing and realized i'm shittier than these people i hate on, then i dont hate on them nemore

>>36998878
I have no idea about weightlifting training centers anywhere in the world man.
>>36998329
>>36998877
What's with the shitting on accessories, don't all the WLers do them? Do you even do pulls?

>>36998859

The OTC is probably 'the best'. Cal Strength just has a high profile from their self-promotion.

>>36998945
>The OTC is probably 'the best'
It's the olympic training center, it's supposed to be the best. I'm talking about places anyone can join.

>>36998907
I don't hate usa wl lol
They just think they're as good as the rest of the world minus drugs when they're not

>>36998913
not much

>>36999004
I just remembered you train Bulgarian style. Doesn't really work for guys like me who can't hit the gym daily.

>>36998177
120 snatch isnt good tech lol, its not a bad w8 tho desu m8

>>36998970

calstrength is reasonable considering it's taking responsibility for Moorman and Kitts even though Wes has dogshit technique

I am pretty sure a lot of the others train independently. I like Alex Lee the most out of the lot but I don't think he trains on a 'team', just travels to SK and other places for personalized stuff. I could be wrong though, this is just what I've been able to find through looking him up

>>36999262
no alex has a coach thats been with him for a long time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9lUM4gJ1A4

this guy who beat dimas and huster

How important is stretching/foam rolling calves?

https://www.instagram.com/p/BE4HMOkG1jm/?taken-by=japadu

Jerks felt so light today. I was gonna try 160 and then this happened..... it actually got fucked up on the dip... I have no idea why I re-racked it instead of just dropping it.

>>36999684
i got sort of a urik vardarian bullshit jerk stance going on too. gotta get front foot out more

are there any germans in here?

>>36999096
Tbf not many people even hit 100 within a year, must be doing something right

>>36999527

Stretching for ankle dorsiflexion is pretty major.

>>36999684
M8 you're strong and brave but can your ego just allow you to work on your lifting before you really fuck urself up?

Is it really a problem that I can't squat/do full lifts without knee sleeves or wraps and avoid pain?

I've tried not using them for a while but my knees hurt too much

>>37000094
What you mean? it was a fluke. like I didn't do anything wrong on that lift for it to get hurt.

>>37000272
just stop responding to these weak idiots

every time someone gets injured they ofc know better and always say i told you so, shouldve worked on form better lmao fag

it's fucking useless they wont learn unless they get injured themselves

>>37000350
I guess... It wasn't even on the split. Like it was on the dip.... Maybe I should have foam rolled my legs more...

>>37000468

what is this?

>order Power Perfect 2's three weeks ago via adidas website
>they send me faulty shoes
>send them back
>still no money 3 weeks later
>Probably gonna order them again because there's no place where I can find them for around 90 euro's
FUCK YOU ADIDAS FUCK YOUUUU

Am I doing the cleans wrong if my shoulder is in pain afterwards?
All the guides say the 'power' comes from the hip/legs.

>>37000482
12 weeks of wl generated by my prog maker
just for a guy in wechat

>>37000504

Can you make me a program desu?

>>37000523
u can just do that one lol m8, maybe change a few bits once u get the general idea for how the programming works
i do basically the same stuff myself, i just modify the frequency of certain stuff in my generator to help it address my weak points better, and if some session looks dumb ill fix my prog generator and remake the session

>>37000568

thx m8

what is pause pull? Just a pause clean pull? snatch pull? explain desu

hard pull?

Can you explain some of the stuff?

>>36991376
can you post your log?

you're my favorite /owg/ lifter. thanks for being here, friend :)

>>37000937
this post seems ironic

>>36995901
>>36995993
Exactly this.
Asics are sick as fuck

>>37000485
Lol I got adipowers, size 11-10.5 if you want them

>>37001093
it is not ironic. you're like /owg/'s personal clarence you're gonna be a big guy one day imo.

why can't you accept when someone likes you? we are all here to support each other in this great sport.

>>37001141

Clarence is a pill eating nob head mate don't compare him to our natty king.

>>37001141
lad i'm tellin ya that sounds so not genuine

idk what you really want though. I've logged every day of my training in notebooks since the beginning

>>37001174
Hey man eoin and kyle are both lurking this thread RIGHT NOW

>>37001184

not him but can you post your first month of training for science?

thx

>>37001184
i want your logs when you began the bulgarian method

>>37001200
kyle doesnt come here

>>37000350

His strength lets him get away with a lot of janky shit that will get him injured pretty badly in the long run.

What good is it to say 'I used to
jerk 160 lol weak faggots' when you're half-crippled and can't lift ANYTHING?

>>36993676
Throw femurs out/spread the ground.

>>37001184

Plug that ish into a spreadsheet! Our give me the data and I'll do it for you. I'm curious about how your progress looks on paper.

>>37001204
idk i'll post my first day of lifting

>air squats
>lunges
>side lunges
>jumping jacks
>other warm up shit
then
>clean 3 sets of five 135lbs
>push press 70lbs 5x5
then
>deadlift 265lbs 5x5
then
> db floor press 5 sets of 10 50lbs
>db rows 5sets 10reps 60lbsa
boy lad the guy who was training me had some dumb methods. this was like a day after learning to clean

>>37001338
>clean 3 sets of 5
>deadlift 5x5
AMERICAN HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL COACHES OUT

>>37001338
Bro just upload your log fuck sake commissar do you want to be the king of lolis or not ?!!

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>>37001216
found it

i wrote at the top of my paper "beginning bulgarian"
5/18/15

snatch 175 and 135 for four singles

squat 325lbs

i was obviously ready for this style of training as you can see

>>37001432
lad i dont have time to take a pic of every page and post it
>>37001331
2much work
>>37001430
ikr

>>37001459
omfg this video, i remember this
damn how old is it?

>>37001488
>5/18/15

>>37001498
oh i didnt realize that was the same day sry m8

What stretches do you guys do for knee pain?

>>37001488
>>37001522
are you a big guy yet

>>37001459
tfw stronger than commie a year ago
I hope it takes me less than a year to get to where you are now

>>37001619
>>37001619
avg weight is at ~70kg so i guess im omw

wtf am i supposed to do?
all gyms that train oly lifting on mexico are like professional or some shit, you need to already know your shit or join as a child and i'm 20... fuck this

>>37000568
Pas I'm that guy asking about the program above can you help explain to me what some of the terms mean? I'm not familiar.

>>37002467
>tfw took two caffeine pills instead of 2 melatonin pills
Fuuck I'm screwed and I'm so tired I need to sleep. Do I vomit it up?

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what's with my left foot, and is this a problem?

>>36999376

I didn't know that, but he must be doing a good job cause Alex is technically excellent

missed 2 pr attempts today 145 kg snatch and 182 kg cj. I'm sad

>>37002832
well I don't know what just happened but here it is.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BE4E4E3q0Wc/?taken-by=geordil_

>>37002897

drake is a cool name
what happened, you had it

>>37003017
that's geordil, he's posting his lifter lol

better coatch than deliuge??????lmao

>>37003030

hi deliuge
it was in first person so I assumed it was other guy

>>37001459
did u vote 4 bernold sander... commnist...

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>>37003548
non

Hehe

how to not hyperextend in jerk
asking for a friend

>>37000608
read my recent blog post (chinfl.blogspot) about chinese system

>>37005815

>Squat once or twice a week for a few heavy work sets.

pas pls

>>37007322
squats are twice a week

>>37007322
Le squat everyday maymay :^)

>>37005493
>how to not hyperextend in jerk

must be tight lats, try having him do this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbyhKCjrPSQ

>tfw klokov and smelly bell will never do a training video together
would probably be the best lifting video ever

Anyone here got any experience with an irritated hip flexor? Ive been gradually getting more pain in one hip flexor and i think its because ive started squatting too soon after ankle injury. I heard that i should let it rest (of course), and even refrain from stretching it? I thought stretching was good for injury treatment..
any thoughts brehs?

>>37010299

Yes. Don't do direct static stretches, but stretch 'around' it, especially your groin. Continue to exercise, but listen to your body and don'the push through any actual pain. If we rested every time some muscle in our body was 'irritated' we'd never get out of bed.

>>37010299
I have the same issue.
It was fine whrn I took a few weeks off. BUt dont just hop back into squats, go back in light and slow.

>>37008962

interesting, assumed it was bad shoulder mobility but it seemed to be fine

Noob here.

Does "power cleaning" the weight, instead of a normal clean get you a no-lift in comp.? I understand that at heavier weights, you won't even be able to power clean it, but are they strict on clean form in competition?

>>37010499
No, you can clean it any way you want, unless your knees touch each other or your elbows touch your knees.

>>37010499
You can do any kind of clean. Look at iwf rules. Aslong as the bar doesn't stop (so you couldn't continental clean it) you can power it, muscle it, whatever

>>37010499
no

My LCL is badly strained. Recovery time is 3 weeks - 3 months.. I already bought my plane tickets to nationals on the 21st. Should I just go for it and say fuck it?

>>36989993
does clarence post here or do you just like his youtube channel?

>>37010608
you get a very, very limited amount of time as a competitive athlete. if you really want to push yourself and see how far you can go, you will need to compete with injuries. is it good for your long term health, obviously no, but you knew that already. it's your call

https://www.instagram.com/p/BE6kf5Kikga
what do u guys think

>>37010629
are you serious?
if you want a very limited time as a competitive athlete, sure go with that attitude i guess
if you're not going to medal/win/set a record/qualify for worlds/olympics (depending on what level you expect to reach in your career i guess), there's no reason whatsoever to compete injured

Prd yesterday with an 81kg CnJ. I still think I'm catching the clean kind of high. People tell me I'll start catching lower one I start hitting serious weight. Should i deload and try to correct it or just go HAM?

Felt good man

Wore a belt and sleeves so I'll post this in /fraud/ as well

think i can add like 12kg onto that?

i never took my pulls or push press training seriously but i'm going to do them seriously 1-2 times a week from now on

I swear!

>>37010629
I was planning on retiring into powerlifting when I can't improve as a weightlifter anymore. I'm clearly more gifted in just raw strength anyway.

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>>37011176
:^P

>>37011185
if you focused on technique for a while (6 months to a year or more, whilst still progressing squats/pulls ofc) you would be a far better weightlifter

>>37011277
pas wechat

>>37011277
That's impossible w/ current job. It's just depressing to know that If I would have become a powerlifter instead of a wler I would have probably broken all the provincial records by now.

>>37011472

What are your lifts vs the records now?

>>37011472
thats what you think

>>37011542
i was within 5kg of the bench record as an 85
my squat is 220 maybe more considering my front squat has gone up and I don't do back squat anymore and record is 259
my deadlift was 235 as an 85 and the record is 275 i think. I quit deadlifting a long time ago....
for reference the best squat was 180-190 when i had a 235 deadlift.

>>37011195
you have a slighter better clean and jerk than me and i can push press 110
you'll get up there really fast if you do it a bit more

Hey guys

Can I have a form check?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73VUtOzIWEM

I have an ankle injury that seriously impairs my flexibility, so it's only power snatches and power cleans for the time being. How does the rest look?

>>37008082
there's a big difference between squatting twice a week and squatting every day

>>37012716
You did everything wrong.

>>37013139

Thanks. Care to give some advice in how to improve? :(

>>37011185
How long have you been lifting for?

>>37012797
Twice a week is more than adequate if you're not weak as fuck

Far better spending time on classics/variations

>>37013157
I suck at WL but keeping your back straight and not jumping back would be good.

Squatted a beltless pb in a commercial gym (thegym for fellow britbong) it was either 150 or 155kg cos I think the bar was 15kg maybe

Got looked at like I was an absolute madman

>>37013269
yeah if your goal is to suck at weightlifting

>>37013336
Yeah sure, spend all your time squatting instead of weightlifting and see how good u get

U fuckin mug

>>37012716

Your starting position is basically like a snatch-grip SLDL. Bring your hips way the fuck down. You start your second pull maybe three inches above your knee, which is way, way, way too soon. Spend time finding your pocket, which should be right around the crease in your hip. You extend aggressively from there, nowhere else.
You don't finish the second pull and try to rush under the bar. Be patient. Extend as high as you can.
Your feet in the catch are wide and splayed unevenly. If you were to try to catch like that in a full squat you would lose the lift and probably pull something in the process. Your powers, especially for a newbie, shouldn't be much different than your full lifts, other than the catch above parallel. Drill your foot transition. No weight, just practice moving from extension to catch.
You receive the bar with your shoulders and upper back loose. The weight will really crush you with anything heavier. Fixation is critical. Work on it.
You catch the bar way behind. That looked painful. Was it painful?

>>37013391
Who said squatting often and doing the lifts were mutually exclusive?
You can happily squat 3 or 4 times a week and still get loads of volume in with the full lifts and variations, and still have room for accessories if you want.
Obviously in general your main focus should be the lifts as that's what weightlifting is but you dont get good at them if you dont have good squat numbers. And you can reach those numbers far faster squatting 3/4 times per week than you can once or twice.
Squatting isnt that hard.

>>37013328

p sure ive been lifting with a women's bar the past several weeks.

don't matter, been setting imaginary prs like cray.

>>37013391
You know you can squat at the end of a long session right?
You lazy fuck

>>37013583
Lay off man I get tired easy

>>37013328
>>37013565
My gym has regular length bars that weigh 15 kg, I always feel inferior to the people with nice bars and colored plates.
Anyway how do I fix elbow pain, more triceps and biceps work?

>>37013650
The worse part is the bar was thick as fuck I don't even have small hands but I couldn't hookgrip it properly and it rested on my traps weird

>>37013509

Thanks man. This looks like very good advice.

Nope, not painful at all. In fact, the entire movement felt very smooth, albeit somewhat weak. I also understand completely what you mean about exploding too soon, it's very clear now that you mention it - I had the same problem in the clean but it was somehow easier to fix, there.

A full squat is not possible for the moment because of the injury - you can't really tell in the video but I have a brace on my left ankle - but I see what you mean.

I'll try your advice tomorrow, thanks a lot!

>>37013317

His small jump back isn't really the main problem.

>>37012716

I don't know what's up with your ankle but proper weightlifting shoes will put it in a better position either way. The other comment covered it well, you need to have a proper starting position, and work on extending more, especially since you're doing a power variation.

K I have a highbar squat question friends.
so I did 240x25 today on an amrap day in my program right(felt like I had more but was out of breath and arms were tingling) but I tested my max on friday and I struggled with 330x1. I mentioned this to some other lifting dudes and they all said that that was whack.
thoughts?

>>37015545
Yeah bro 330kg squat is whack as fuck

>>37015583
Good one. All measures in LBs nerd

>>37015545
Lol nice meme program
Also being able to hit lighter weights at higher reps doesn't mean you'll be significantly stronger

>>37015664
I figured as much but surely that should indicate a higher max than my current one. Greg cuckols beginner 3x a week squats senpai. Pretty enjoyable

Please gib sparrow nude album link pls

>>37015737
Well have you considered being fatigued from the day before

>>37015545
You got a stupid body probably

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>>37015545
just b urself

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>>37002563
anyone?

>>37002563

is this in LA somewhere, looks familiar
and dunno what you mean about the foot

>>37016829
im not him but it looks like it turns out and gets up on toes early compared to the right foot

i've seen koreans/aramnau do this, it happens when you try to push the knees out so much at the start of the pull, i don't think it's something that should be paid any attention to unless it starts causing problems

klokov and russians teach the knees out at the start of the pull too they say it makes you feel your legs work better

>>37016975

yeah I realized that too but it didn't even occur to me to point out as a problem, thought he meant in the split or something

I actually find that knees out keeps my bar path much straighter fwiw

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she pretty qt tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sDk3MK4WVo

13:55 you can see li ping coach making fun of her ;((

>>37015545

When you say 240x25, that's for one set, no breaks whatsoever?

>>37017129
that clean looked like snap city

>>37017318

wow you must be really good at this

>>37015545
>>37015545


Nevermind, doesn't really matter.

So, you basically just did a set of 'breathing' squats, which is where you take your 10RM which should be ~75% of your max. Obviously if you can do the weight for 20 reps it's not a real 10 rep max, but really anything under, like, the 2-3RM range isn't going to be very accurate, and you're going to be able to push more given the right conditions. This is more exaggerated the lower the weight. Anyway, you were able to bang out 25 at 240, but you were fucking smoked afterward. This suggests that 240 is closer to your 12 or 13 'RM', which should be around 68% of your max. (240/.68) is about 352, which is probably possible for you if you really went for it like a true one rep max--which I don't recommend.

>>37017428
>which is where you take your 10RM which should be ~75% of your max

and do it for 20***

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>>37016829
UCLA
>>37016975
hmm.. okay, interesting. a year or two ago i strained my ankle, although it wasn't too bad. i followed up with a ton of yoga, so my rom was never impacted. i wonder if it's due to that.

i also seem to only move my right foot out on the snatch. it's not an issue, and it doesn't cause any problems. but curious if it's negatively affecting my lifts.

>>37017515

oh yeah you used to work at krec huh
you need to get stronger bro

>>37016975
>klokov and russians teach the knees out at the start of the pull too they say it makes you feel your legs work better

yes, definitely fires the hips and inside/outside of thighs, i think

>>36988601

>tfw no gym bros

>>37017528
haha oh fuck! yah i did.. who are you?

yeah, i know.. school, man..i also suck at following programs. i'm still at 92kg snatch 104kg cnj and 124kg bsq..

>>37017562

white dude who does wl sometimes, 95/125 at around 80kg bw

stopped going so often because the squat rack sucks, the floor underneath is uneven and soft and I just can't get my head straight

that's the wooden volleyball courts right, how do you lift in there?

>>37017597
oh.. english dude??

yah, wooden is better if you go at the right times..

i was a presenter (just a test dummy lol) for a friend that's a pt since it was uc fitcon and he was teaching an owl seminar.. so after it ended i stayed to lift a bit.. super nice area, but the acoustics are massive and when you drop weight it makes the whole room vibrate lol

>>37017703

yeah kiwi, close enough

I had no idea but you can actually sign up for weightlifting classes through the ucla recreation website, crazy stuff

krec would be a fucking great place to lift if they bought a squat stand or some half moon blocks or something, but they never do anything to improve the facilities

apparently it's becoming a high school so fair play if they don't give a fuck anymore

>>37017735
>weightlifting classes
they're shite, tbqh, though
i took one for a few weeks, but didn't do any others after that.. wasn't worth it.. learned a lot more on my own

and yah,. krec had potential... it's also funding that's the problem.. are you still in the area? why not train at wooden?

>>37017810

because I'm training at Takano's gym in Woodland Hills now

not getting coaching from him but he's a nice guy, we chatted for a bit about how I'm self taught and he said that he was too because that was just how it was back then

>>37017428
I wasnt that smoked senpai, I reckon if I really pushed I could have got 35-40

>>37017129
dammit is my goal body esp legs, so mirin

>>37017974

Right.

>>37017991

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>>37018065
no i am white stuck in asian body, so having asian goal body is closer then a white woman

>>37018160

R u a Hapa?

>>37018186
what is hapa

>>37018238

here you go

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=hapa

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>>37017839
oh, nice. i'm thinking of doing a month at takano's once this quarter is over, maybe... doesn't seem too expensive at 120/mo

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Can i post bw gifs here?

>>37018256
no a slav with a distant azn heritage

>>37018262

yeah it's a good deal for sure, nice equipment too

>>37018289

post lifts???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

>>37018402
it's not that impressive, but for sickly woman is not bad i guess
125lbs 5.5
185 squat, can do more on good day
2plate dl on good day and 105lbs c&j, screw bench

>>37018481

Kgs plz, also no snatch?

>>37013524
lots of (possibly even most) powerlifters squat once or twice a week, and they prioritise squat progression

>>37019039

Powerlifters are also dealing with a very different form of squatting (especially with those who popularised the twice a week approach) and a different overall gameplan.

They also don't prioritise squat progression in quite the same way as some oly lifters do. Its an event, yes, unlike for oly lifters but powerlifters also have to deal with the deadlift being a comp lift which oly lifters don't really have an equivalent to.

>>37019083
im p sure all the sn/cj/pull volume we do gives fatigue roughtly similar to a powerlifter deadlifting once a week or so

>>37019223

To light pulling? probably, might even be slanted in favour of the oly volume.

To (near) max pulling? probably not. That's the kind of lift that can fuck with your workouts for the next two weeks.

>>37019244
from what I've seen powerlifters wont be pulling maximimal deadlifts too often

>>37019306
also tbf weightlifters should probably sometimes do near maximal pulling too, slightly less often tho i guess

What to do during harsh (1000c deficit) cut?

TM, 2 day gnucks or 3 day gnucks for squats?

>>37017562
>tfw 87/102 with 160 bs

Just get stronger senpai that's some good effecincy

>>37019411

There's something of a difference between a max effort clean or snatch pull and a max effort deadlift. Both are rough on the body but the deadlift favours grinding so much more than it tends to beat you up to a much greater extent.

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is this any good? also am i doing it right?

>>37020097
ive done slower clean/snatch pulls than deadlifts desu senpai
but my point was overall both pl and wl have lots of external fatigue, and both want to increase their squat as fast as possible, especially plers, and most don't tend to do high frequency squatting

>>37019306
>>37019411
heavy powerlifting deadlifts fuck your CNS up
a heavy snatch/clean pull is way lighter, more emphasis on correct position and correct speed
nowhere near as fatiguing

also what olympic lifters do you know doing pulls/deadlifts to max

>>37020663
idk when i was in china we all maxed clean pulls once and i was encouraged to go heavier even when tech wasnt good. coach said to do it once every month or two ish or something

>>37020101
Don't rush under it makes you short pull

Stop looking down, this isn't a deadlift keep your head and chest up

Anyone got any dank webms of lifters from 70s/80s/90s?

>>37020101
last ohs is the worst of all. you want to avoid leaning back so much like that. almost looks like you'll fall backwards

>>37019855
>Efficiency along the lines of Swedish immigration
>185 bs 105 cj 84 snatch

>>37019855
yeah.. maybe i haven't tried hard enough..

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Sup /owg/

Anyone got some cues or pointers to help me avoid doing pic related in the snatch? (i.e. swinging the bar slightly forward after the drive)

>>37022150
no one has a straight bar path retardo

>>37021975
I see it as a double edged sword... Getting stronger is very easy on paper, however, if your strong but with shit technique, it might be a frustrating journey but when it does click the pb's will roll in...

I hope so anyway

>>37022395
>Getting stronger is very easy on paper
fuck no man getting strong is so difficult for me.

>>37022798
>on paper

It's a simple concept, straight forward programming etc. There's more factors in technique training

>>37019573

The fuck. Never cut. RECOMP. God dammit, why do I have to keep saying this?

>>37019573

But if you are on a significant calorie deficit don't expect to make any progress on your lifts, especially not your squat. Just try and maintain the strength you have.

Or, you know, don't cut.

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>tfw trigger point on my traps exactly where I rest the bar when squatting

HELP

>>37020663
Any high end lifter gets away with deadlifts. Clarence. Klokov. Poliv.... Etc..... The magic of steroids. Dafuck man. These guys are fully recovered from deadlifts in 4 hours

>>37023298

Remove traps.

>>37023351

Their bodies are also acclimated to lifting heavy two times a day, six days a week

>>37023061
na its p ez to stall on strength m8
>>37023351
if u pull heavy more often u get used to it and its not so bad

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>>37023298

Rest the bar lower or higher?

>>37022150

Are you sure you're actually throwing it forwards? From your pic it looks like you might be confusing forward movement with the hook the bar does at the end or the path.

If you actually have issues with the bar path, try not to actively shrug the bar, and practise technique with drop snatches, focusing a lot on elbow position (pic) and footwork.

Also, post vid if you can.

>>37023909
What part of on paper and concept don't you guys understand?

I know it's easy to stall on strngth but it's not particularly difficult to sort that, especially if you're only squatting 130 or whatever that guy was

>>37023971
How is a drop snatch to help bar path?

>>37024081

If you're using everett's nomenclature, I think he calls it snatch balance.
Need to check on the book.

>>37024081

But this is what I mean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ts5essXg1Bc

>>37024115
>>37024130
Yes, snatch balance and drop balance are very similar

But why would it help with bar path? All you do is drop under with the weight on your back... I don't understand why it would help pull straighter

>>37024187

Watch the video lad, trappy is talking about something else.

>>37024187
>>37024233

tall snatches are the correct term

>>37024233
He also does a snatch balance/drop snatch in said video tho. Confusing.

What trappy is talking about is a 'scarecrow snatch' to alot of people

>>37024252
>>37024255

It's neither of those, actually. At least not according to Greg Everett.

It would be a Snatch Pull to scarecrow position with pause, then Scarecrow Snatch.

>>37024310
Noone cares about what Everett calls it

Fact is it's neither a snatch balance or a drop snatch, they're different things

>>37024394

It's also neither a scarecrow snatch or tall snatch.

>>37021758
nothing wrong with his OHS dude

Why is Toro teaching 'jump in snatch' by having people leap onto plates?

Klokov said no jump, slide, knocking clips away

Who is right?

Shouldn't we just not try to do either, just learn how to pull properly and allow it to naturally be a slide or jump?

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>>37025136

"Jumping" is easier to teach (same reason Rip teaches it this way).

"Sliding" is better technique, but harder to teach.

Help with the phase from knees to power position? Starting to make it over complicated and getting really frustrated.

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>>37025231

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGYKQZg-b1FYhl4P8OnCd_C2v2tjOC55X

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGYKQZg-b1FaJbNrQrwYXkP0BVDKdTpPy

>>37025282
lmao. stop posting this shit videos for everyone who asks for technique help

you are so useless

>>37024063
na it can be tuff to soft it out desu

>>37025136
The jumping on plates is nothing new. They taught it in the past to work on footwork and rhythm.
I was taught to do the same while holding a pvc pipe in front of me to have balance

>>37025136
Klokov has a similar drill if you watch his seminars

It's to create power he said

>>37025215
No it's not you don't now what ur talmbout

>>37025136
If people learned how to "naturally" lift it would be with shit technique

There's a reason all these drills are made, because lifting the bar overhead is not natural

>>37025136

In training the jump it's already assumed you know not to bunny hop prior to extension, which is what all that cuing 'not to jump' is meant to correct.

Again, a jump and catch *with extension* is perfectly sound technique, and actually preferable for a lot of lifters. It's particularly common among light lifters, and you also see it in heavier lifters like Torokhtiy when lifting lighter weights. 'Jumping' without extension, however, is bad, and is common among beginners and those with poor proprioception.

>>37025231
Bump, this --> >>37025282 didn't help much

>>37025231

First thing: find your power position.

Next thing: set blocks to knees.

Next next thing: pull from blocks at knees to power position.

Ta-da.

>>37026091
So you just told him to pull from the knees to power position but you added blocks in there without telling him cues or what to think about. He already said he's having problems doing that, adding blocks don't magically make it go away

Lmao fucking idiots in here I swear

>>37025231
>>37025842

Define what type of help you need, exactly.
If it's just form, watch the videos again. Klokov goes on detail on how to set up from the knees to the extension.

>>37026624

I guess it was my bad assuming he wasn't a moran with no sense of his own body.

He also complained of 'making things overly complicated', but I can see how you could miss that chomping at the bit to tear someone else down.

Anyway. >>37025231 Hey bud. Be sure that when you set up from the blocks you are in the position you would be as if you were pulling from the floor. Your legs should be taut, your arms loose, your shoulders and lats keeping the bar in proximity to your mid-line. As you move upward toward the power point, the angle of your hip should be opening more than anything else, and by the time your actually reach the power position your torso should be almost vertical, your feet FLAT on the ground, with your shoulders still 'over' the bar. Focus on balance and consistency. If you feel yourself being pulled forward stop, reset, and focus on keeping the bar in proximity.

>>37026624

That better, cunt?

>>37023147
Can you explain please?

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>>37025231
what exactly do you need help with?

usually hang or block variation can help

>>37026754

Why are you cutting? Are you significantly overweight, or do you just want to 'look good' for summer? If the latter, fuck that vain bullshit. Focus on gittin gud. Aesthetics will follow.

In the proper order of things you should actually be gaining weight and going up weight-classes as you progress until you just can't put any more weight on. This process takes years, of course, but the trend should always be gentlen incline toward plateau, rather than peak-and-valley. This isn't wrestling.

Now, assuming you actually are overweight considering your progress as an athlete, rather than cutting down to where you 'should' be, a more economical option would be to 'recompose' your body--replace the fat in your body with muscle. To do this you just eat at maintenance throughout your training. No spiking. No periodic fasting. No gimmicky faggotry. Just eat what you should and workout. Your body will reorganize its resource allocation according to the needs you're signalling to it, which is basically: hey, take all this stored energy and make it usable for the activity I'm engaged in.

>>37026624
>guys solve this problem for me
>doesn't state specific parameters of problems
You double digit IQ or something nigga?

>>37026938
i didnt axe the question i still lift more then u nigga lmao

New dread:

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