ATTN KETOFAGS!! Few questions. Are you cutting? Do you count

>>36699021
bumpan for curiosity

>>36699021
perma lean bulk, literally do not gain fat

i used to but not anymore

yes by far

>>36699021
just eat steak, eggs, butter, heavy cream, chicken with skin on etc

personally I'm not a fan of refeeds but I suppose there's nothing wrong with them

follow the guidance of Vince Gironda, the ultimate shredded natty, he knew how to fucking diet. was keto b4 keto was a meme

http://www.ironguru.com/vince-gironda-maximum-definition-diet

http://www.anabolicmen.com/vince-girondas-old-school-steak-and-eggs-diet-for-ultimate-weight-loss/

I have tried before but it fucked muh metabolism and test levels.
Now i eat protons + complex carbs for a cut and i'm losing fat alright.
obviously counting.

>>36699021
also, cutting out an entire food group is bad for you. not to mention a whole macro.

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>>36700263
Would it be reasonable to say though that if you previously had a pretty high carb diet it wouldn't hurt cutting some of it out and replacing more of it with lean fat/protein?

I'm not sold on the whole less than 5% carbs like keto recommends. However, I've been lifting for about 6 months and just ate whatever... inb4 SS.. I blew up to 190 at 5'11.. .definitely put on muscle, but am now slow as fuck when I have to do pt test runs.

I've heard the whole calories in calories out deal... and "read the fucking sticky"

Less carbs more meat and vegetables. What thinks you?

>>36699021
I wanted to cut for summer two years ago so I tried keto.
Never went back to normal diet again. Best decision I made for my body.

>>36700242
>eating complex carbs on a cut
JUST

>>36702618
>dude states he's losing fat including complex carbs in his diet
>"nvm I'll stick to my memes and imply complex carbs are literally fat in a can"

you think the only complex carb in the world is bread and pasta am I right anon?

>>36699021
Cycle a high carb day once a week or so. It helps. And by high carb I mean potatoes or something, not shitty crap from a cardboard box

>>36699021

Yes
No, I do lazy keto
Yes, only thing that's ever worked

My tip would be Udo's choice or cod liver oil as a supplement

>>36702787
what the fuck is wrong with bread or pasta on a cut? Maybe if you're a fucking manlet skinnyfat beta who cuts on sub 2k calories it'll be hard to fit them in.

>>36703091
>what is wrong with what I do
>must be a fucking manlet beta cuck [meme] [meme] [meme]
>completely missing the point I'm trying to make

keep it up /v/, sorry /fit/*

>>36700263
t. food group expert

keto is a meme

any diet will result in weight if you're in a calorie deficit

if you're getting enough protein most of it will be fat

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