Phalates, plastics, fertilizers are turning us into low test,

>implying I'm going to have any children

J U S T
U
S
T

Because only /pol/ gets worked up over weird conspiracy theories meant to justify the author being unsatisfied with their body.

>>>/pol/

>>36685573
>current year
>caring about children
Muh white genocide, no one gives a fuck

>>36685587
>>36685610
If you don't have kids you've failed as an organism

>>36685610
It's not white genocide that's my issue, it's my potential son growing up to be a beta cuck. Surely here of all places you should understand that.

IMO the bigger issue is western society saying that masculinity is no longer necessary. Saying you don't need to be strong, tough, and stoic will have a greater effect on guys than trace levels of chemicals(not saying the chemicals should be disregarded though).

Besides that, it's not a huge societal conspiracy. It's just all this new shit we have been inventing over the past 100 years that we thought was so useful and versatile and are just now realizing its negative effects. It comes from a place of ignorance not malice.

>>36685638
You eugenics dudes who always refer to themselves by their most basic animal traits are really fucking weird desu

>>36685638
Once again, who cares.
>muh appeal to nature

>>36685638
news flash: natural selection and therefore evolution isn't happening in humans anymore, so the "goal" of having children is outdated.

Mostly the problem is that dudes like you think being fem and being tough must by nature be mutually exclusive when guys are the ones that always are getting their feelings hurt and getting all cut up over girls.

>>36685648
This pretty much. It's easy to think there's some evil force behind this, but like with most things it just boils down to good old fashioned ignorance.

Just remember that you are above all responsible for yourself, and you can choose to live the life you want. If you want to be masculine, strong, and stoic, then work towards that.

>>36685664
>evolution in humans isn't happening anymore
this is patently absurd


Also why is /fit/ so antinatalist?

Has anyone else noticed that all /pol/posters can talk about is how afraid they are of evolution.

>Muh face of 2050
>Muh feminization of men

Sorry you aren't along for the ride, but hey, let the best win is your guys whole thing right?

>>36685573
>sons
top kek FUCKINGF KEK LOL

>>36685664
Are you high or violently retarded? Every time a baby is born evolution is happening. Why do you think some people are lactose intolerant and others can drink milk their entire lives?

>>36685728
>why is [community] so against systemic human engineering fueled by bias, inferiority complexes, and the media

g i wonder

>>36685981
>>36685664

not them but i don't think they meant "evolution" in that sense

what they meant is that the evolutionary success isn't a valid goal anymore because natural selection has been waned off of the environment and been handed mostly to random chance with some arbitrary and constantly shifting societal factors thrown in

your semen is no longer a legacy, you are alone

>>36685664
are you retarded?
lol, if you think about it the increasing amount of retards on this board is proof of modern day evolution.

>>36685638
"Failed" would imply that there is some goal to achieve. Having children serves no purpose. It only continues the meaningless cycle humanity must go through. It's an inherently selfish and narcissistic act. No ultimate goal, no purpose, nothing is fulfilled by human life. We have availed nothing. I won't be having children. It would be cruel in my opinion.

>>36686079

Agreed, not to mention having children will decrease your quality of life by forcing you to spend a shitload of time and money raising it for a minimum of 18 years, and the constant stress of dealing with school, its health, doctors, buying it shit, etc. etc.

>>36686043
You are retarded

>>36686043
But now we have much more assortative mating. So even if people are surviving and reproducing as a whole, you now have populations becoming more distinct. Success and wealth is far more tied to intelligence than before (when aristocracy had a greater stronghold). Elites and their children are rapidly being distinguished from plebs in terms of intelligence, height and attractiveness.

https://vimeo.com/15346778

Check this out.

I think there is some merit to it.

Maybe the Jews did this. Make all the filthy goyim into low test beta cucks.

>>36685573
>Why is this not a bigger issue?
because although xenoestrogens and endocrine disruptors are a serious issue, their impact on male health is generally overstated and is easily eclipsed by bigger issues

if you want to worry about your children's future, worry about:
>obesity
>diabetes
>cardiovascular disease
>climate change
>water shortages

>>36686043
>what they meant is that the evolutionary success isn't a valid goal anymore because natural selection has been waned off of the environment and been handed mostly to random chance with some arbitrary and constantly shifting societal factors thrown in
So, basically just like it's always been for millions of years

>>36685601

>Weird conspiracy theories

Skepticism over unhealthy substances from plastics and industrial farming chemicals is mainstream as hell, anon. BPA-free plastics are becoming the norm across entire industries and minimalist/natural hygiene products like Tom's of Maine toothpaste are more and more popular every quarter. Even the normiest of vaguely-health-conscious norms are starting to take note of this shit, what the hell are you talking about?

>>36686213
>climate change
Literlaly garbage tier

>Not listing unchecked 3rd world immigration
Meanwhile the western world is getting flooded by violent third word savages

>>36686302

Go back to listening to Fox News and Trump you retard

>>36685638
>If you don't have kids you've failed as an organism

ive never failed to give your mum an orgasm though lol

>>36686079
>>36686144
Your genes have literally existed since the dawn of living shit. It is selfish not to reproduce

>>36686362
I just got rekt
Fuck you fite me irl

>>36685664
You're an idiot
Evolution is simply a shift in the frequency of alleles in a population
If you don't think that's happening then you can get out

>>36685573
You know what is a bigger factor in feminizing men? The transition from K selected, to r selected.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8N3FF_3KvU

>>36686079
The goal, like it is for all life, is to reproduce
People overcomplicate human life
Your existence is no more important than a worm
Human intelligence itself is a product of sexual selection
An individual that has a much higher fitness than the rest of the population doesn't mean anything I'd those traits it possesses are not heritable
Your body is literally just a vehicle to carry your genes so that they can propagate

>>36686381
Yes, it's so selfish to refuse to force someone into existence for the sole purpose of stroking my own ego.
My ancestors were selfish. It's not "selfish" of me to understand that their actions were selfish and to not continue this cycle for no reason whatsoever.

>>36686403
say that to my face not online see what happens cunt

>>36686462
I don't really consider that to be a true goal rather than a senseless cycle. That's exactly why I do not wish to participate.

>>36686043
thats not evolution just shit genes

>>36686481
Because 99% of people think it is real selfish to exist.

>>36685601

The kind of people that are on /pol/ are the kind of people that have been on 4chan since its inception. If you don't like it you should seriously fuck off back to redbit or tumblr. I'm getting so sick of redbitors on this site - you already have your Socialist PC shit hole of a website to go to, don't come and fuck up my spot.

>>36686570
Anytime two sets of genes form a new set means evolution is happening.

>>36685664

>the only girls I've ever dated where 'highly independent' and had a liberal art degree the post.

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>>36686079
Supreme Edgelord

I think the one on the right looks better.

Also, fuck having kids I have my own life to live.

/fit/ is LOW TEST

>not wanting to instill good values into your son
>not wanting to raise him to be strong, healthy, and wise

bunch of numale trash here.

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>The oil companies have lots of money to extract from your pockets and will do anything to maintain their stranglehold on the energy sector. Even if it means poisoning the freshwater supply of the Earth (fracking). They think they can just drink and cook with filtered and fuck the rest.

>Big Pharma has billions to make off of selling treatments instead of cures.

>The ultra liberals have an agenda to support in justfying homosexuality and transexualism.
Would they really reverse their opinion given that so many have been irreversably damaged. Is not the safety of the ecosystem more important to them? Apparently not.

This is a point in which all these agendas transect and in which ego has gotten in the way of truth.
>>36685648
>It comes from a place of ignorance not malice.
It came from a place based in ignorance and now justified with malice.

>>36686676
>Edgy
Nice buzzword reddit

>>36686718
>not giving an argument and just calling people nu males
Come on man.
Also if we're going to make baseless claims, I guarentee that you're dyel(you probabky actually are, but that's aside from the point).

What about Diogenes? Was he a nu male?

plz no bully :;(

>>36686718

You seriously want to know where these people come from? It's /r/4chan and /r/fitness. That's the honest answer.

I started on /b/ back in 2009 and then went to redbit. I got banned probably 3 dozen times from different subreddits and even the entire website a few times for having an opinion different than their liberal faggot mods. I literally got shadowbanned twice for posting a non-gore pic of the Rhodesian genocide because it made "le kewl black ppl" look bad. I eventually came back to 4chan. But I can tell you for sure that retards shill 4chan over there all the time and that's why theres so many tumblr numales and feminists on 4chan now.

The worst thing about these people is theyre not content with just having their opinion and you having yours, they try and overtake or expel anyone who disagrees with them. Its like online communism.

>>36686744
understand this is not merely about how this affects humanity. This affect the entire ecosystem of the Earth. These xeno estrogens are damaging the reproductive systems of ALL the animals they encounter. From the oceans up. The excess plastic byproduct is changing the ph of the oceans. The most obvious effects we are encountering are the amphibians that are flipping sexes and affecting their reproduction and the animals above them.

>>36686079
This will trigger those with low IQ

>>36686481
You're such an edgy retarded fuck. I'm glad you're not reproducing

>>36686796
What can we do about them though?

>>36686796
>amphibians that are flipping sexes
You have convinced me to start supporting dumping plastic into the ocean, to think this could be a reality...

I'm really worried tbqh famm.

I watched that sperm documentary about our sperm getting less dense and men getting more feminized. Fucking super scary. Soon there will be no more men, only whiny bitches and transgender freaks.

>>36686918
>Implying men aren't the whinest bitches of them all

I'm soooo sick, there's no way I can make it in today

Oh man I can't believe derek would say that I'm so mad at him now

That girl rejected me, I'm going to send her messages saying "bitch" for the next two years

Eastern men are OK, Western men are lil pussies who whine about how the world isn't as easy for them as they thought it would be.

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All of /fit/ is gay anyway. Why do we care about reproduction?

>>36686718
>taking a Japanese dinosaur trading card forum seriously
>being this autistic
JUST

>>36686857
>d-dude you're edgy and retarded
You haven't done anything to back up those claims. Nice buzzwords though, really, keep em coming.

>>36686421
Not in the population as a whole. Sure it still happens in isolated areas, but generally humanity has been in a stable evolutionary state for atleast 10000 years.

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>>36685601
>that nigger so butthurt about /pol/ he mentions it in every thread

>>36685845
Devolution*

>>36687070

There's no such thing as biological "devolution"

>>36686359
He's wrong about climate change, objectively right about the second part.

>>36686944
well maybe you only hang out with whiny hipsters.

>>36686744
I've never heard such a fedora tipping post in my lief

>>36686918

It's great for the global elite because then what you end up with is a docile population. If you don't have aggressive men to stand up and fight against an oppressive system you end up with some shit like Sweden and Germany where the government can literally do whatever they want.

>>36686944

Shut the fuck up.

I don't understand why every generation says we are feminizing our children. So what guys now shave there pits, balls, and maintain their eyebrows. Years ago recently it would be weird for a guy to wear skinny/slim jeans cause it would look gay. Go back 100 years ago it was weird if a man shaved their face. Society changes overtime. Eventually their will be makeup for men and it will be accepting.

>>36685573
it's called adobe photoshop my man

>>36687092
That doesn't mean something is inherently good because it's new. Race mixing isn't "evolution" either.

>>36687145

You're confusing evolution to mean "things I like are happening"

>>36687132

That is the goal.

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>>36685573
>dont ever talk to me or my feminine twin brother ever again

>>36687134
They had that, it was the 80's punk thing, then the glam rock thing then the "metrosexual" thing then the emo and goth thing

it's all been carely calculated manipultion of popular music to sell makeup to men.

>>36685664

If anything, humans are evolving MORE now than we used to.

Think about it, back in the day if you had weak genes you didn't make it to adulthood and didn't have any babies.

Now you can be a full-fledged retard and still manage to have children, so more different types of genes are being passed on.

>>36687134
Pretty spot on, maybe society becomes more feminine, but it's all circular, at some point it will break down anyway and we begin with new standards.

Being a "man" is not defined by how you look, it's about how you act and treat yourself.

Of course feminine guys have a harder time maybe in a more macho world but ours at this point is more about being outgoing, kind and good looking, which is not always a stereotypical manly look.

>>36687288
Hitler Dubs speak the truth about eugenics

>>36685573
>Why is this not a bigger issue

because society doesnt give a fuck about men

retire later
die earlier
99% of homeless are men
pay more in insurance
longer jail sentences for the same crime
be forced into going to war if shit hits the fan

compare breast cancer campaigns to testicular cancer campaigns

nobody cares about men

>>36687295
Being a man actually is defined by how you look.

>>36686944
I agree with you but its Because they baby you all the way through high school. They treat you like dumb children ( which you are) and discipline isn't PC anymore cause who are YOU to say how well behaved MY child should be? This is America right now. As an event security worker i can tell you that almost nobody listens to anything you say unless there is a negative consequence. We live in a world with people like ISIS yet you can be sued just by putting your hands inside somebodies bag even though you are security, you have a license and your job is to check bags for banned items like weapons. Someone can claim you stole something with zero proof just by violating that rule. Its the fact that you can't prove it didn't happen ( even though in a reasonable world that's easy to do). You're treated like a special snowflake your whole life and then bam your 18 and you can get gangbanged on camera, be s stripper and get your head blown off in the middle east. It's unsettling at first because you're straight up lied to about the future. Childhood was shallow, materialistic and filled with porn starting immediately at puberty. Its such a race to grow up cause you notice girls around 12-13 and everything in life is forcefully rated G but when you talk to peers its like everyone wants to be as adult as possible as fast as possible.

Not an excuse at all but this is partly why you see this. They forcefully baby you for too long. I thought middle school and on was going to be manly and adult. No it was baby shit until you graduate high school. Misleading as hell. Start manning kids up at fucking 13 not just good luck at 18. School was just a government run daycare for minors. I didn't learn shit for the 4 years i spent in high school. They prepare you for nothing. They expect kids to be fortunate enough to understand the importance of a well ranged education. Not knowing we are raised like babies our whole lives.

>>36687175
No, I'm not. You are. Humanity isn't going to "evolve", may as well preserve human diversity and structure things in a eugenic rather than dysgenic way.

>>36687311

Yeah, it's pretty Hitlerish but it's true.

A hundred years ago you would die as a child if you had:

>Diabetes
>Asthma
>Cancer
>etc etc

You get my point.

>Woman rapes 1-year-old son, sends video to pedophile, gets sentenced to 100 hours of community service

>>36687416

>No, I'm not. You are.

Heh heh. Buddy, you're looking at it like this

>if things go the way I want them to, that's evolution
>if things don't go the way I want them to, that's "devolution"

Like you think evolution should check with you and ask you if you're okay with the changes that are happening. Whatever works, works. If it's not your personal ideal, it's still evolution.

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>>36686079

>>36687132
Ahahaha baby

ITT: Faggots getting worked up over fashion, then talk about how other people aren't as manly as them.

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>>36687604

>baby
>ITT:
>faggots
>trying this hard

>>36686519

Ding ding! All you idiots are arguing over "purpose" - the fact is humans have so far overpowered other species there's no absolute need to reproduce if we don't want to.

It's not like I need 'ol Helga to whelp a son every year (because some will die) to man the farm when I pass.

In this age there is no underlying need. We live, we die, we're forgotten all the same.

If you enjoy being a parent though, good for you - I certainly won't shit on your decision to do so.

Why there is so much stuff that increases estrogen but only roids increase test?
World is cruel

>>36687670
>but only roids increase test?

What is proper diet, exercise, a low stress, fulfilling lifestyle and plenty of sleep for then?

>>36687661

Maybe you faggots should do something about exploding populations in India and Africa then? Or would that not be politically correct?

>>36685664
>>36687025
This is true. Intentionality takes all but variation (mutation) out of evolution

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>>36686896
ITT Homos and trannys of /fit/ defend the oil companies that permanently damaged them and endorse the destruction of the ecosystem of Earth.

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>>36685638
I'm trying to Genghis Khan this earth

>>36687312

sadly true. I noticed the same

>>36687692
>low stress, fulfilling lifestyle and plenty of sleep

These aren't that easily achievable.
Also low test makes you more stressed, which makes a vicious circle

>>36687916

>These aren't that easily achievable.

But achievable. You don't want it bad enough, anon.

>>36685601
Hello weak ass leddit faggot.

>>36687884
Me too, me too.
Shame I'm an ugly cunt, maybe I'll have to pull a proper Genghis Khan

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>>36685573
feminizing *white men

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>>36687312
I don't know when but at some societies definition of a man was someone that handled their shit without whining to someone who lets people fuck him in the ass without doing anything about it. Because men don't complain right? So if we're real men we should just tough it out and let other people fuck us in the ass while bowing to our liberated femifat overlords

>>36686302
Droughts in parts of Africa and the Middle East due to the changing climate effecting rainfall is catalyzing civil wars and chaos by causing shifts to cities from rural areas and sky rocketing local food prices.

A lot of the instability which lead to the Syrian civil was was exacerbated by this thus leading to European migrant crisis.

Climate change, political instability and unchecked 3rd world migration are linked.

>>36688319

Droughts in parts of africa and the middle east are because they are in a fucking desert

>>36688319

That's because brown people can't maintain civilization and can't stop fucking like rabbits.

Then numale faggots like you enable them even further by helping them migrate into white countries.

>>36686796
Not only do the plastics cause effects but fire retardants used in plastic are carcinogenic, plus plastic tends to absorb heavy metals in the ocean.

Interestingly some of the greatest proportion of plastic fibers off the coasts of developed nations are from synthetic fibers from clothing.

So whenever you use a washing machine with it draining into the sewer without a filter, you are adding plastic to the ocean.

>>36688064

I work in a prison niggers are pretty primal. stupid and act on instinct it's scary. they're also 85% of the population. I was searching this dudes cell and I saw he had killed a 13 year old girl. Figures why I noticed he was so recluse

>>36686619
>are the kind of people that have been on 4chan since its inception
Incorrect. The kind of people that have been on 4chan since its inception are either gone or dead. The kind of people that have been on 4chan since its inception took /pol/ for what is should be: a joke. But the first batch of newfags who became aware of 4chan because of chanology missed the "joke" part and took shit seriously.

>conspiracies
Daily reminder that people who take conspiracy theories seriously are people who have lost control of their lives
http://time.com/3997033/conspiracy-theories/

t.Eternal Newfag

phd in molecular biology reporting in

too many misconceptions in this thread to point out individually so if anyone has a specific question they've been wondering about i'll be thread watching

>>36688354
How does implying that climate change may exacerbate Europe's problems make me a numale?

>>36688411
Can an adult change their facial bone structure even slightly? i.e more defined cheekbones and jawline?

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>>36687052
that cracker who's been cucked so much he blames the fact he is a failure on blacks

>>36688565
not my field, but short bones can still be remodeled in adults (think marfan syndrome, acromegaly), so yes I would conclude that hormonal changes could remodel facial bones

I have no idea how effective such a regimen would be though

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>>36688415

Because le climate change meme is all you faggots care about. You don't care about the real problems, like exploding populations that are *responsible* for drying up of water tables across the Tropic of Cancer that is going to displace hundreds of millions of people into Europe. You think the droughts are caused by le gasoline and le cow methane - not 3 billion people in Asia shitting in the street. Not their lack of infrastructure, ability to maintain it, or anything like that.

If there weren't 3 billion people in such a small region they wouldn't have dried up the water tables. There's too many people. And instead of addressing the fact that brown people can't into civilization or stop fucking, you blame "le climate change".

>>36688597
> cracker

This nigger doesnt know that cracker is a term used for slave masters whipping their slaves.

Fuck outta here and pick my cotton

>>36686844
>empathy = low IQ

that's the half that's a twisted fucking psychopath talking, right?

>>36688597

Blacks as an entire race are a failure. Just look at Africa and every major city with a high negro population from Europe to South and North America.

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>>36688415

>>36686619
>The kind of people that are on /pol/ are the kind of people that have been on 4chan since its inception.
NEW NEW NEW NEW NEW NEW NEW NEW NEW NEW

>>36686481
lol what? I enjoy life and I think ~95% of other people do. Statistically it is a kindness to bring another creature into being that will get to experience life.

>>36688724
>correlation = causation
reeeeeeetard

>>36688724
>black is a race

>>36688772
>>36686481

the amazing thing about life is that it can adapt

even people that live in the shittiest of the shitty conditions can enjoy life

the problem is when you get used to something good and then everything goes to hell--in that case it's 12-gauge w/ my toe city

>>36688783

One could claim their lower IQ and genetic predisposition for a more aggressive behavior (google Monoamine oxidase A) are the cause for the correlation, but I doubt that would convince a liberal retard that already have his mind corrupted by egalitarian ideologies.

>>36686619
Dude stop please

>>36688834
>pseudoscience
reeeeeetard

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>>36685650
>>36685664
>>36686079
>>36686144
>>36686481
You are all completely correct. Please don't reproduce and pass on yourselves. In the end, it will only mean less genetic competition for my children. Win for me.

>>36688812
yeah I see what you are saying. I was lucky enough to be taught to appreciate what I have been given (working a fucking hard job when I was 14 was part of that). Hopefully I will be able to teach my children to recognize how much they have been given.

>>36689045
there's actual behavioral research about this that is starting to be published

early-life stress leads to better stress response later in life

>>36689095
Would placing a small speaker in my childs room and playing spooky sounds while they are asleep help them later in life?

>>36688894
>>36688834

Science has actually decided it would be "unethical" to further continue studying racial differences for fear it would stoke the flames of racial tensions. So we're basically all being lied to and told we're all the same for the sake of political correctness.

>>36685660
Appeal to nature has nothing to do with what he said. Also, humans are apart of nature. We are bound by the laws of nature and life. If you don't like that, you can kill yourself, literally, because that's the only way you'll ever escape this fact

>>36685573
my doctors are trying to get me to take risperidone so they can turn me into a bitch
i just pretend that I take it
they want me to turn into a ladyboy

>>36687266
those 2 dudes are who i picture when i imagine twins that like to fuck

>>36689152
blame it on this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Jay_Gould

Every FUCKING time.

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>>36686079
>It's an inherently selfish and narcissistic act.

So? Being alive at all is the same fucking thing. Go fuck yourself. If we're able to even type this shit out, then by definition we are all selfish.

ITT:

>what is kin selection

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>>36685601
>weird conspiracy theories
Good goy.

>>36685638

humans are pack animals. there are many "dead ends" in human genetics. It's actually very hard to get pregnant, and for the baby to survive, in the wilds where humans evolved.

Survival of humanity revolves around the packs. It's why being completely gay was actually a benefit to the pack. Gay brothers/sons/uncles whatever, stay with the pack and have no reason to leave the pack to take care of children. It's why a large % of women are barren (when compared to solitary animals). it's why we don't have a litter of children, we only have one at a time.

>>36686079
Easy there Ruston

>>36688653
>>36688740
Fuck this is a really good point...

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>>36685601
>OY VEY SLIDE IT CLAIM!

>>36689504
>the current year
>questioning anything at all
What are you an antisemite?

>>36688653
This
Within a few decades, Africa will run out of food

90s called they want their bpa scare back

How about we teach our sons how to be heros instead and transcend hate on a personal level and pedantry and cattiness and all the other bullshit that is actually female? Make them become fucking legends instead of some Chad with everything handed to him because of his symmetric face and high dimorphism..

Fucking hell am I the only one who even sees how much we cuck ourselves with this shit?

Women DICTATE our thoughts. "Alas if ONLY I was born a Chad..."

And then we project that onto our sons

gg

I want to scream.

Stoicism is a fucking cuck philosophy. By slaves for slaves.

>>36686955
Winner

>>36688935
Yes fellow Christian, your life isn't complete until you have a wife and lots of kids. Make sure you make a lot of them so they can all experience this gift of life. Don't worry about paying their median $52k college educations, a part time job builds character and student loans are really convenient and affordable these days -- not like when we were growing up, Christian brother. Make sure to cosign their mortgages as well -- it's not a rich, full life unless they have a nice big house to raise your grandkids in. Also be sure to buy new cars on payment plans, secondhand sales hurt the good American auto industry. Pay with credit, the bank is here to help you after all. Increased spending is vital to the economy of this great Christian nation.

It's up to us to keep the American Dream alive.

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>>36689669
i cant wait t b h

>>36686944
>derek being petty

Why is this so funny

>>36691840

Enjoy your lonely hedonistic life with your feminist wife who's in an open relationship while you take care of the cat child and blog about vegan diets.

>>36691923
>Implying I don't have an infertile sub gf and GH-farming-induced prostate cancer already

>>36688409
I started coming here summer 2004

I left because of project chanology but I came back for /fit/ when I started lifting and /pol/ is honestly what half of /b/ used to be after wading through the porn and gore

>>36685664
This is like saying the world is flat. I can't believe a human just said that. Go fucking hang yourself now. Best thing you can do for this planet.

>>36688411
What should I worry about then?

>>36686744
How exactly does homosexuality or transsexuals affect straight men? Who cares what they do, they're an insignificant fraction of the population.

>>36686795
I've been on 4chan for a long time and also go to reddit sometimes, it has its uses. But I don't go to the default subs. Usually smaller game-specific subs, weightlifting stuff, or history-related ones. They tend to be smaller and not subject to the hivemind.

Reddit isn't as liberal as 4chan thinks it is and 4chan isn't as conservative as reddit thinks it is. it's got a lot of people from all over.

Then again I'm in my late 20s and don't give a shit about stupid inter-social-media rivalries.

>>36692514
most homo guys on my campus are bro tier, some of the trans are just retarded though. Fucking poisoning our water with their HRT piss.

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>>36686079
>it would be cruel in my opinion

This is the one thing you got right

>>36689883
How so

>>36685845
>best
fittest*

Best would be to select for higher intellect in order to increase the ways we can decide our fate and liberate us from the chains of our evolution history in a transhumanist manner.

>>36686079
You are fucking retarded in every way imaginable. Sure there is no real goal of life, if you think about it deeply enough well you end up in a situation where there is no real goal to anything but even then you should simply have your own happiness in mind like the rest of humanity. By these same rules you can't be selfish, you can't be narcissistic. Stop throwing buzz words around and think about what you're saying. "It would be cruel in my opinion" you realize the only way you could safely make that judgement would be if you thoroughly didn't enjoy living yourself. Can you really sitting on your computer now say that you were worse off living than dead? No, and if you could you should've committed suicide years ago.

So now you're left with two options
- Stop being a fucking retarded edgelord, too obsessed in his own depression to actually live life
- Kill yourself

I highly recommend the latter.

My goal in life is a legacy. In the grand scheme of things no matter how successful I am it would have no effect on anything but it doesn't matter. We only get a brief moment of time to live then we are nothing, it's up to us to get the most out of it and I have an obligation to make that the best it can be for my children and my children's children.

>>36695711
*your wife's children
Anyways, yes, you can be selfish and narcissistic even under those condition, dumbass. If everyone is a selfish narcissist, that just means what it means. Not "hur u can't be a selfish narcissist".

You're the one throwing buzzwords around by the way.

>you realize the only way you could safely make that judgement would be if you thoroughly didn't enjoy living yourself
That isn't true at all. You don't have hate life to in order to realize this.
>Can you really sitting on your computer now say that you were worse off living than dead?
Yes, I could.
>No, and if you could you should've committed suicide years ago.
No.


So why are you so upset about this anyways autist?

Also
>telling people "kill urself xD"
>calls other edgy
You understand how ironic this is, right?

>>36695855
Do I really need to fucking walk you through this? I was hoping I wouldn't. In a world where everybody is selfish and narcissistic what is the point of saying it? You said it like you mean't something by it so I assume you weren't aware of this.

Yes, it is perfectly true. It would only be a cruel act if you were subjecting some one to something that is in total a bad experience. If you yourself can't say that it was a bad experience in all your failures of life then what makes you think they would? There are very very very very very very few people on this earth who could justly say "Maybe death would've been better than this life". In fact I'd even argue that.

"Yes, I could."? So kill yourself? I don't understand? You're saying that in your position life is worse than death so just kill yourself? That is perfectly logical and yet you haven't which means you are full of shit.

I wasn't just saying "lmao kill yourself retard", I was pointing out how if you're not bullshitting, which you are, it's actually your perfectly logical best move.

If you wan't to fucking quote me, quote me lmao. Stop with all this fucking projecting with "hurs". You're the idiot here.

>>36686744
>Big Pharma has billions to make off of selling treatments instead of cures.
Have you guys ever thought about this being a 'survival of the fittest' thing?

You know, people who don't need medicine all the time will have more money to spend, are more healthier (obviously) and what not.

Those who need it never get cured, spend their money to feel better and the side effects of medicine only produce more problems.

>>36686955
I cant unsee that that anime girl has a beautymark but no nose.

>>36695855
What's your excuse for not killing yourself? You're parents? Friends? All of them don't matter in your mindset. Give me one logical reason why you choose to continue breathing if your life is actually worse than death. Not that you can even fucking comprehend death itself. Can you imagine nothing? No, none of us can. Our best analogy would be sleeping but it is nothing like that. I have only ever enjoyed going to sleep because I know that I will wake up. You're so full of fucking shit it hurts. How old are you, 16? Think more about this shit before you let it out of your mind or you'll look like a fucking idiot.

this thread has made me more angry than any thread i've come across in my years here. the fact that there are people who think this isn't a big deal makes me sick to my fucking stomach. it is painfully obvious we are being feminized and i have no words to describe how that makes me feel. i have fucking tits for fucks sake. i had a weak face my entire teenage years, my fat distributes to my hips/thighs and chest and i have no stamina. both my parents have god tier genetics. but ive had a fucking horrid diet my entire life, and now that i have changed that about 3 weeks ago ive already noticed differences in my mind, mood and amount of energy.

something needs to be done. but we're probably hopeless. I will do what I can for my son if I have one, and make sure he stays away from all of this packaged shit. my bodyfat is ~19% and i can literally feel lumps of strange painless cyst-like sacks in my chest, i dont know if i have fukcing breast cancer or if it's cysts or what, but the last pair of titties i grabbed didn't feel this way and im scared for my fking life let alone my appearance.

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>>36685638
>If you don't have kids you've failed as an organism
But you successed as an individual.

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>>36695993
im depressed. feel liek shit after reading through this and doing more research. going to the doctor to get these lumps examined. hope to god its just gyno and i also hope if i keep lifting i can look like the man im meant to be.

>>36695983
>>36696005
So get on TRT and stop bitching.

>>36696024
only 18. no way i could. i probably wouldn't even be able to get gyno surgery. i plan on bringing my total to 900 and then starting a cycle. hope that will help/

>>36688740
So we move the indians into africa and let them fight it out

>>36685638
So what? I can live with this

>>36686619
No, they aren't. 4chan was libertarian during the days of Ron Paul, and Anonymous was pretty left wing.

>>36685573
>muh xenoestrogens
It's all education. That's why pinning /fit/fags are still a bunch of feminine pussies.

>B...but behavior cannot alter hormone levels!
Yes, it can:
http://www.dangerandplay.com/2014/07/30/science-shows-dominant-behavior-posture-increase-testosterone/

>>36685573
>Should we not be worried about this, especially for our sons?
nah, I just limit the ammounts of animal products I eat. I know people think soy is bad for men because of estrogen, but in soy it's phyto-estrogen which is pretty difficult to process and so isnt much to worry about, compared to say milk and beef (with mammalian estrogen) and chicken (with bird estrogen). So i limit the ammount of animal stuff I eat and just eat a lot of nuts, beans etc and a bit of chicken every now and then

>>36685845
dude it's not a /pol/ thing. I'm not saying someone is deliberately malevolently making men effeminate, it just so happens that the cheapest plastics for drinks bottles contain estrogen, and that chicken are pumped full of estrogen to grow more breast meat.

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>>36688409
>Unironically quoting time.com to silence conspiracy theorists
Lel

>>36697041
>Unironically quoting time.com to silence conspiracy theorists
Read the article and get the actual link to the study.
>inb4 I don't like it; it's a conspiracy

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>>36697060
The System doesn't like conspiracy theorists, because every now and then they actually get things right. That's not good. Time, being as big as it is, is definitally under control of the Elite that rule the world. Time is their voice to the people. Can the people trust that voice? I sure as hell can not.

Also, the entire article boils down to this quote;

“We found that if you give people a feeling of control, then they are less inclined to believe those conspiracy theories,” he says. “Giving people a sense of control can make them less suspicious over governmental operations.”

What I read is;
>Give people a false sense of control, and we can get away with even more awful shit

>inb4 there is no world elite

Hell yea gonna fuck me son traps son

>>36696901
what are you on about 4chan is a counter culture whatever the fuck is popular is the opposite of what they'll do

the reason why 4chan was libertarian that time was because being conservative was popular now that being libertarian is popular shit like pol is popular.

that's the whole reason as to why fit was so hung up about "muh full body routines" when the sticky was made is because body building was what was popular back then and now that powerlifting is getting popular you see more aesthetic fags posting nowadays

it's just a cycle that renews itself from time to time.

>>36685638
>2016
>implying genes are still more important than memes
>clearly never played MGS2

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>>36697297
SOLIDUS DID NOTHING WRONG.

>>36695926
Yeah, but what about when medicine is socialized. Then the healthy, wealthy fit people who should reproduce have to pay for unhealthy, unfit people to live and possibly carry on their bad genetics.

>>36685573
There are bigger factors in the environment than pthalates and plastics, take parental guidance for instance. If you're afraid that your son will turn into a "beta cuck", then it is your duty as a future father to turn him into a well adjusted, mature man.

Take all of your maladjusted sissies, the ones that you spergs love to bitch about, the losers that you'll only find on tumblr, the limp wristed man children found in college campuses, and look at their parents. You'll find an inadequate father (and mother as well) who raised a son who is just as bad. It's not the plastics in our food, it's the parents.

Behind every strong man is a stronger father. It is your job to be that kind of father.

>>36696485
Poo in the loo vs. Eat da poopoo

Fucking brilliant, let's make this happen

>>36685638
literally the ugliest, fattest and dumbest people have kids

it's not an achievement

>>36685573
Because you fuckers dont eat broccoli and dont have enough vitamin D i have 2300 testosterone

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>>36685845
>Has anyone else noticed that all /pol/posters can talk about is how afraid they are of evolution.

Don't you mean
"Has anyone noticed that all male fitness enthusiasts can talk about is how afraid they are of an increasing saturation of female hormones in their food packaging, in their water, and almost everything in their daily lives, stopping them from developing properly, giving them prostate cancer, and making their kids have a higher chance of being born with some intersex disorder that causes them physical problems and enormous amounts of mental and emotional anguish over their lives?"

Why is it in your interest to conflate people concerned over their environment and the health of themselves and their children with Nazis? What do you hope to gain?

>>36685638
This is only true if you're white.

>>36686462
>Your existence is no more important than a worm

Importance is an abstract concept measured by what how much humans ascribe to it. Nobody cares about a worm, but somebody always cares about a person, whether it's their social group, or just the guy who has to move the body.

A human is objectively more important than a worm.

>>36697634

He was going to set off a nuke next to a city so he could hack a computer

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>>36687134
>Go back 100 years ago it was weird if a man shaved their face

You're full of shit m8

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>>36685601
>muh /pol/ boogeyman
It's a well known fact that there are hormones in the water and other products like baby wipes, shampoo etc.

>>36688772
MOST PEOPLE ENJOY LIFE?

WHAT THE FUCK?

How someone could enjoy life unless they are elite rich is beyond me. You actually enjoy life? Most people enjoy life? WHAT AM I DOING WRONG.

>>36697717
This right here is cuckoldry in its entirety
>muh manliness
>muh nurturing
>muh responsibility
>muh father figure

You read some artofmanliness article written by a woman, ate it all up, and now you are spewing out that cuckold garbage.

But I love being feminized

>>36698488
I actually enjoy being emasculated. It is enthralling and it makes everything fair for both sexes. Women are objectively superior to us, and all we can do is crawl around like the cockroaches we are.

>>36698243
I can't tell if troll. If not a troll, look at how happy people were in the past, despite all the difficulty and you get some perspective.

>>36698488
>>36698538

>tfw every fetish i have is deeply at odds with all of my core beliefs

>>36698243
You sound like a miserable person with very few friends.

And you probably think that only the "elite rich" are capable of having friends.

>>36697230
>the system
Kek. Your lost is literally tin foil.
>it's good to not feel in control so the government can't fool you
>totes legit u guise they get things right some times

>>36698243

How can you not enjoy life? What are you doing wrong?

>>36688653
>And instead of addressing the fact that brown people can't into civilization or stop fucking, you blame "le climate change".

Which brown people are you talking about?

>>36698024
and if you're not

Could someone link some sources on phytoestrogens and phalates in the water/food supply or is this all exaggerated bs

>>36698606
That's how fetishes usually are, anon. That's why you may feel 'dirty' when acting on them.

>>36698488
>>36698538
Can't tell if trolls, I'm losing my touch

>>36698877
https://vimeo.com/15346778

Unfortunately a lot of what it says can be BTFO by "correlation =/= causation", but that's applicable to most environmental problems, and doesn't mean they should be ignored

>>36698964
how do I stop these fetishes that are at odds with my morals then?

>>36688935
how is that a win for you?

>>36687425
then how do those things exist today? shouldn't they have been bred out of our genes?

>>36699028

Stop being a dumb moralfag?

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>>36697807
you nailed it

>>36699235
kys

So what foods do I need to avoid to not turn into a girl?

Couldn't this just be fixed by professionally administered test injections?

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>>36696061
>mfw been planning a cycle for years but still can't start
>mfw 1300 total as a natty

Is there even a point anymore?

>>36685573
Meh, I inject mad steroids. I'm good to go bro.

>>36698616
>And you probably think that only the "elite rich" are capable of having friends.
It's a coping mechanism to shift blame for his failures to anything else but himself
>shit financially
>fucking Jews
>shit physically
>fucking Jews releasing estrogen in the water
>shit socially
>fucking Elite Rich, who are also Jews, hogging all the friends.

What is a safe amount of steroids to take just to counteract the estrogens in the food supply?

What should I be taking, letrozole? What about letrozole+finasteride to counteract dht-induced hair loss?

>>36699258

No idea what this millennial speak means, sorry. Go back to Tweeter and Kick or whatever you kiddies use these days

>>36699347

There is no "safe" amount of steroids. Supplementing testosterone to make up for environmental reduction is not without side effects.

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>>36699538
>Human males should have a natural amount of Test in their body
>This is reduced by foreign environmental chemicals
>Taking any amount of Test is dangerous even only to supplement to bring it back up to normal physiological levels

>Normal levels of test are dangerous

>>36699575

Your body will stop producing any testosterone at all moron not to mention injecting it is not the same as your body naturally producing it

>>36698078
Well okay, that may have been a little overboard.
But he wanted to do it to stop people from getting their freedom of thought and speech taken away and put through the war economy.
That counts for something, r-right?

Oh who am I kidding, my hero's a madman.

>>36699857
>Your body will stop producing any testosterone at all moron

Uhh, no.

Your body stops producing test naturally because you're just straight up shooting supraphysiological levels of the shit. It stops making it because you're pinning more than it would have made anyway.

Do you think that shooting 1% of your natural test production causes your balls to shrivel or something? It's entirely volume dependent m8

plastic water bottle buying fag here

what kind of filter/steel water bottle do i buy to avoid plastics?

>>36685601
This is a health issue not a race issue you dumb faggot

Alright so has anyone discussed the source material in OPs post?
Is there any validity in this shit or is it just another tin foil scare?

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>>36686359
Get cucked faghole

>>36696901
Yeah 4chan grew up

Anonymous was NEVER a part of 4chan btw

They were parasites who clung to us

>>36685573
Stop using plastics and eating foods with fertilizers.

/thread

>>36700503
While anonymoose was never a true part of 4chan, 4chan was always stormfront-lite. There were constant threads about hating niggers, the white masterrace, jewish conspiracies, skull size theories, and a bunch of other similar topics. There was also a lot of gore, shit, and cp. This was back in 2007.

>>36686213
>but they are lynching negroes in america!

Not an argument.

>>36689768
>you can dismiss scientific and medical evidence by calling it a "90s scare"

Kill yourself, cuck.

>>36699269
>1300 total as a natty
Is that good?

where can I get my test checked for cheap?

>>36699268
>professionally administered
21st century is the age of DIY. Once you get a GF after you get your natty gains, she can pin you instead of doing it yourself because you'll be too swole to reach your asscheek.

git-r-dun, you cuck

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>>36698629
>missing the point this much

>>it's good to not feel in control so the government can't fool you
I'm just pointing out what the article you directed me to said. People who feel in control, like they have a say about what's happening, are more inclined to look past some of the fucked up stuff that happens in the world. Thank god for democracy, atleast we have our vote :^)

I never said anything about it being better not to feel in control. But it's best when the control isn't an illusion.

>>totes legit u guise they get things right some times
>Going hurr durr in a discussion
Please

Look historically at all the fucked up things that happened behind the scenes, without anyone noticing. Do you honestly believe no major things are taking place in the world today? That would be extraordinary. The people with most power always end up exploiting, and getting away, with awful things. Fucking look at the Panama stuff going down right now. If I said all the rich people were hiding their money a couple of weeks ago, you're the kind of person who would ask me to take my tinfoil hat on.

Don't fucking believe everything you are told

Take note that I havent even touched on ANY conspiracy theory, but you're still arguing against my belief that SOMETIMES conspiracy theories turn out to be correct. Is it because I used the term "the system"? What other words would you prefer I use to explain it?

>>36700785
http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/female-hormone-testing.php

Got the link from /fit/ so YMMV, I haven't tried it yet. Also you're supposed to take the female hormone panel (have no idea why).

>>36700881
By that I mean the first one, since the others are >$200

>>36699331
>fucking Elite Rich, who are also Jews, hogging all the friends
This created an image of a fat, malicious Jewish guy corralling my friends into a pen.

>>36685981
No, the reason there is all these health issues is the fact evolution in the sense of natural selection has stopped..

In evolutionary populations less then 30% of males ever reproduce, while in human society its closer to 90% with females in both sectors being 95%...

So, in the evolutionary populations only the top 30% of males can reproduce, rhua ensuring healthier and stronger offspring

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>>36700994
Natural Selection and Evolution never stops, period. What can change is the selection, meaning nature now selects different traits than before.

Just about where in your ass did you find all these percentages that prove nothing?

A smaller % of males reproducing would speed up the natural selection, I won't deny that.

>>36701043
>A smaller % of males reproducing would speed up the natural selection

false

>>36700994
all false

>>36701236
Why wouldn't it speed up the selection process? The fewer amount males who gets to reproduce, the pickier the women can be.

Genuinely curious,

>>36701370
Because natural selection is as much about selecting FOR genes as it is selecting AGAINST them. It's completely unbiased.

If a larger % of males reproduce and there is a highly unfavorable gene that is causing a disproportionate amount of men to not reproduce, it is actually selected against more quickly

>>36701395
Aight fair enough, I was thinking more in the sense that it would more quickly force the evolution in a certain direction. Like how we've created distinct dog breeds so quickly through ruthless selection.

>>36685573
I'm not a /pol/ guy I'm not into all that racial bullshit but this feminization of men is absolutely disturbing, help /fit/izens what should I avoid eating?

>>36701589
Eat clen
Tren hard

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>>36685573
I look like a complete neanderthal yet my diet for almost all my teen/growing years consisted of almost nothing but hamburgers, pancakes, and kraft-dinner

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>>36701589
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

Watch this, senpai. Stay as far away from processed food as you can. Don't drink soda, juice, or anything else that's almost pure sugar. Fruit and berries, brah. Shortly after you quit eating sugar in excess, fruits will taste much better than what you're used to.

When you're buying groceries, have a look at what they contain before you put them in the bad.

I don't have cheat days. Unhealthy food genuinely disgusts me, knowing how it's fucking with my body. The times I get craving to eat some crisps or have an ice cream are so few and far inbetween that it really doesn't make a difference. After getting used to fruit, candy is just way too sweet and has lost it's appeal entirey.

>>36701731
same here

if I need something 'sweet' I eat cacao nibs or a couple bites of the 85% dark chocolate they sell at aldi

>>36685573
There's not any concrete proof yet, and if there is, then the government and corporations will act.

>>36685638
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>>36700994
these are some of those most cringe worthy posts I've ever seen on this board, or even more so on the entirety of this site. Be it a thread about the feminization of men to have all these insecure cucks trying to justify their life choices and attempting to force them onto others.

FIRST OF ALL, having children =/= being a "father". so the logic of "its evolutionary to have a family/raise offspring". I have 2 sons that live in completely different states, one of which i met once during a week visiting, and one i've only ever seen on instagram.

I've had children, i've 'secured my genetic future', but fuck having my 'own kids'. You think i wanna deal with fucking children and all the responsibilities that come with it?? thats retarded.

and before you white knights come attacking me, i did everything i could to try and get these girls to get abortions. They just wouldn't, i had zero say. They wanted to bring children into this world knowing their father wouldn't be apart of it? Not even so much as i didn't want to, but i couldn't. When the day comes that my sons ask about their father and possibly reach out to me, i'll make sure they know their mothers decided they would be fatherless before they were even born, and how i was almost conned into something i really couldn't deal with or was prepared for.

Thus you fucking numales can stop arguing about who's right and who's not. You want to have children, have them. You want to 'continue your genetic line, do so, But don't act like the 2 are correlated. How many different species in nature have no part in the upbringing of their offspring?? The only difference i'd say is we are sentinent as humans, we really aren't part of nature anymore

>>36692837
>not scoring test from your FtM brehs.

>>36698481

You people are so deluded and just too far gone. Good thing none of you have any realistic chance to have offspring.

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>>36701731
>pure sugar. Fruit and berries, brah.

Used to eat sweet sugary cereals for breakfast

Switched to oats and blueberries
>mfw breakfast has never been sweeter

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>>36701785
>tfw none of my posts are quoted
Wew

>>36701691
hory shit, a sasquatch

>>36700758
thats pretty damn good if you ask me

>>36700758
>>36701877
it's above average

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These enviromental factors have nearly no effect on your hormones.
I'm sorry to tell you this but most of us just have poor genetics.
Nature doesn't give us so much pressure anymore. Any cunt can go and make kids.
In the old days, if you were a beta cunt you died in the first battle against a wild animal/hostile tribe.

>>36701977
>talks about having bad genes
>posts a picture of a completely different species
we aren't neanderthals breh

>>36701987
obviously you haven't kept up with science over the past 2 years

>>36685664
JEsus christ you're fucking stupid

>>36701769
Wrong. Just one facet of this, male sperm fertility/viability, have gone way down in the past 50 years.

>>36702129
>citation needed

>>36701977
>These enviromental factors have nearly no effect on your hormones.
>t. Doctor Broscience

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>>36685610

>nobody, cept the large amount of people that show up to protest it peacefully in northern Europe and the cops have to disperse them with water canons and other riot tactics

>>36702161
https://vimeo.com/15346778

This convinced me beyond doubt

>>36702286
i highly prefer peer-reviewed paper since I know the level of intelligence of an average film major

>>36700622
>There were constant threads about hating niggers, the white masterrace, jewish conspiracies, skull size theories, and a bunch of other similar topics.
No there wasn't newfag. There were threads with funny pictures of black people doing stupid shit and fulfilling stereotypes.

>>36702323
I can see where you're coming from, but I just don't keep that shit around to link it to people on fit.

The documentary is a good place to start, and you can look things up in more detail later on.

It's 44 minutes of your life, with potentially great returns. Seen that "give me the solid proofs"-attitude in so many people who just don't want to expose themselves to things they don't believe. The ego is a bitch. I have no way of knowing if you're like that, but everyone should keep that in mind.

>>36702414
no I believe it intuitively, but I'm a scientist and if I've learned anything in my field it's to ignore my intuition (to a point) and rely on fact

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>>36702323
>Immediately blaming the medium without given the content any chance at all
I know the level of intelligence of an average shitposter

>>36702462
this response actually makes me want to believe it less tbqh

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>>36702161
>>36702323
>>36702443
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>>36685573
The importance of neck thickness

>>36702489
>i have no solid proof so I'll just meme and ad hominen instead

>>36702323
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1469672/

Here's a direct exposure test done on a commonly used model organism (because human testing would be difficult and probably not get past ethical approval) directly implicating xenoestrogen exposure in reduced testicle size and sperm production so as to avoid any of that "correlation =/= causation!" crap

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>>36702533
Come back and complain after you watch the documentary, fag

>>36699269
>1300 total as a natty
believable number

>>36702550
thanks

>>36702557
Wait which side is this meme in support of? What the hell is "post physical", you mean the supernatural?

>>36702603
afterlife

>>36702129
It's also okay for a man to talk about their feelings now.
Diets are shittier, and men are more docile. It makes sense that we'll have less test because of the environment.
If you look at prisoners, they have higher test, because everyone in prison has to be and act tougher. I believe it has more to do with social changes.

>>36702668
I'm gonna need a source for that

reddit taught me that I'm a scientist who needs to see a peer-reviewed double-blind university study for everything or else I can't believe it. ESPECIALLY ever since I graduated with my BSc in Gender Studies after spending 7 years at ASU. My standards are just too scientific and factual to believe your bullshit without any good proof, dude.

>>36688411
Xenoestrogens; how much affect do they really have? Also, is there anyway to make wide hips narrower?

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>>36702668
I agree that there's a degree of socialisation to the sheer volume of nu-male beta cucks today, but

>Oestrogen analogues building up in our lakes and reservoirs turning crocodiles into hermaphrodites have nothing to do with it

>>36688411
Are you a reddit "scientist" here to obfuscate the truth about xenoestrogens, or are you an actual scientist who's here to answer our questions?

>>36702744
I'm not trying to say that there aren't other factors to consider, but there doesn't seem to be enough evidence and concern yet.
Then again, I'm not reading research papers to study up on the topic, I'm just shitposting on the internet.

>>36702826
>but there doesn't seem to be enough evidence and concern yet.
>Then again, I'm not reading research papers to study up on the topic, I'm just shitposting on the internet.

So you're full of shit and we should disregard everything you say, you mean?

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>>36702826
>Then again, I'm not reading research papers to study up on the topic, I'm just shitposting on the internet.

Very honest. You're one of the good ones.

>>36702842
Like a lot of posts on the internet, yes.
Where do you think you are?
You're on a shitty anime imageboard full of NEET manchildren.

>>36702885
But everyone on /fit/, /k/, /biz/, and /pol/ says that they're 6'6" aryan ubermensch gods with 10%BF and >170lbs of lean body mass that makes $350k/yr minimum at a STEM-oriented self-owned small business

>>36702744
They're exposed to pounds of this stuff, we aren't

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>>36702908
Except we are.

>>36702916
Yeah, over the course of a year maybe
Not in the short time span that they

>>36702962
Try over the course of in-utero until death, you cuck.

>>36685638
Can entropy be reversed?
Evolution fails in the long run, dude.

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>>36702908
>Sprayed on our crops
>Leaked into our water
>In our water containers
>In our food containers
>In the feed livestock eats
>Injected into livestock straight up
>In the fabrics we make clothes from
>From conception until death

You're right, we get hardly any, what are we even worried about?

>>36703643
What are you, some kind of bigoted homophobic woman-hating conspiracy theorist?

>>36703675
I know you're not saying this sincerely, but is this what it was like to say smoking caused lung cancer in the 60s? Or that sugar was worse for you than fat ten years ago?

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>>36703714
You're right I wasn't.

And yes, it was. There's still retards who believe that a "round earth" is a "bullshit conspiracy theory made up by the "Elites"" so I don't doubt that there's retards who'll keep being obtuse for the sake of being obtuse about this issue too.

>>36703737
>Hollow Earth theorists

I don't have the expertise to propagate any new insight into whether the earth is round or hollow or not, but it's not like "actually the earth is flat" is on the side of voluminous evidence or common sense either, unlike "oestrogen-like compounds used in plastics and developed without proper testing leaking into the water cycle en masse and more than ever are probably going to have an effect on human endocrinology"