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>>36661296

In for becoming a temporary steroid king pin for the extra cash

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>>36661258
gpzmedlab

and yes

>>36661283
>>36661383
>tfw just chained 5% referrals on a certain gear-vendor site using browser scripts for $850 worth of free gear
brewing gear is easy as fuck tho and like little to no effort whatsoever


>waifu claimed

>>36661383
I think everyone has though of that already.
I am just too much of a pussy to order 1kg test/tren to Austria. Anal custom s here. Got to be EU source.or I am.fucked

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>>36661412
Easier to resell when it comes to avoiding the law though
Never even have to touch the gear
Just get money

>>36661418
Of course
I'm not being serious, I'm just enjoying talking about the possibilities

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>>36660939
>piss us off and we'll kick down your door in the middle of the night, shoot you in the face, and dump your body in the ocean
kek, but it will only take 10 years..

Use arimidex during entire Test E cycle?
Or only when getting symptoms?

Super mixed results when lurking online.

If the latter, what dose to start on? And what dose to move up to if first dose isn't enough?

And when to start nolva after last pin of a TEST E cycle?
2 weeks after last pin right?

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Reading up on busts.

Cop was busted for aas distribution


In a way I feel kinda bad. Cops have a tough job. I'd hate to work in the ghetto natty.

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Can someone summarize Jason Blaha's diet and gear usage so I can do the opposite?

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Claimed mine

>>36661544
Literal human feces

Tren

>>36661562

Bro, ease up on how much test you're pinning

>>36661538
you start PCT when the compounds have completely cleared from your body, so yes 2 weeks for test e.

you won't get a straight answer for the AI. some say it's better use preemptively and some will tell you to use it in a reactionary fashion. I'd recommend aromasin over arimidex but you start at 0.25-0.50mg EOD

/fraud/. I'm about to fucking kill myself. My total Testosterone levels is FUCKING 270 ng/dL WHEN I'M ONLY 19 YEARS OLD.

I didn't have a chance to speak with my doctor yet. What's the chance of my doctor getting me TRT?

>>36661540
What's that "movie" someone made with a bunch of gangs?
Basically showing the shot they did day to day.
Mostly just punks trying to act tough and then the occasional guy who would actually shoot people.
But there was this one cop that kept popping up during street fights or shootings.
Mother fucker was roided to the grills and basically ran around knocking gang bangers into the pavement.
That's my kinda cop right there

help, just recently it has started to be insanely difficult and painful to stab the needle through my skin.
it's almost like my skin has gotten twice harder recently even though I've changed to smaller 23g needle instead of 21g that I used to use for the first week or two of the cycle.

I'm now 9 weeks in and srsly considering quitting right now cause it just hurts too much no matter would I do glute or delt.

>>36661737
i just recently added tren-a to my cycle, could it have anything to do with it?

>>36661626
Why aromasin over arimidex?
Thanks for the response btw

>>36661706
just pin pussy

>>36661765
I want to get my insurance to pay for it

>>36661540

Hah try being a cop in prison. You know what motivation to work out is? 2000 convicts eat - sleep - working out with only one goal in mind. There's no lack of motivation on my end to stay alive....literally

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>>36661475

and you'll die a tired, broken, powerless old shell of your former self who had to spend years scurrying from hole to hole like a rat

>>36661753

because arimidex is absolute shit compared to aromasin

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>>36661737
You're probably getting anxiety before you pierce your skin. The only place you're really going to feel the needle is either on your skin or right below the main layer.

23g is a good size but you could try 25g too.

>>36661845
Cool thanks for the answers mate.
Just one more though.

Do you take anything from the time of the last pin until you start PCT?

>>36661845
brick pls
I've played army mans with Americans
You're easy as fuck to decimate in land warfare.
It's drones, C130s, jets and bombs that do your dirty work.

>>36661873
it just takes a lot of force to penetrate the skin which again makes it hurt like hell, it almost feels like the needles would be duller than before but i'm making sure i'm not poking them at anything before pinning

>>36661706
iktf

Just found out today my test levels are 520 ng/dl at 23 years old. Might be due to the fact ive spent the last 3 months with a super high stress job, zero working out, heavy drinking, and over eating followed by starving myself for days at a time....

Oh well time to hop back on the gear!

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>>36661901
I take it you're using a new needle each time, correct? What brand? If you got vet grade they're usually of lesser quality and potentially sharpness.

>>36661845

I actually take 1/2 a tab of letro e3d or so. Normally that'd crash e2. Mine's SLIGHTLY below minimum ref on it. Can't remember what exactly but I really do aromatize like crazy apparently.

And that was on 250mg test as well as 500 and 750mg. I am "sort of" crashing my e2, but apparently it doesn't want to fully crash. lel.

>>36661901
Happens to me sometimes, it's because I use pins made for small animals kek 22g

Also, you can have slight scar tissue or if it's on your ass you could be injecting into that muscle that's high up near your hip (forgot what it's called) which is fine but sometimes can be a little tough.

Gently gently place the needle on your skin and see if it's tender or if you feel a sharp pain (more so than usual). If so,move it a few cm up and over.

Don't do that over and over obviously or you'll dull the needle. Just once or twice

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>>36661884

depending on compound, dose, and ester all dictating clearance times you'll need to figure out how much longer you have to extend your ai and titrate it down

steroidcalc.com

>>36661892
>You're easy as fuck to decimate in land warfare.

raise your hand if you've actually been deployed in an active combat role as part of a combat arms unit

I'm pretty sure I've got a pair of boots that have more miles on patrol than you

I try to play nice but let's not forget which of us has actually had real significant rooty tooty point and shooty time

not even going to touch the whole military vs military dick-waving topic, but it's hilarious that you'd think that was a good argument

>>36662071

jfc dude

I could run zero ai even at 20+% and only have a little bit of extra water retention

let's hope that trend continues and trest doesn't pull some crazy shit

>>36662078

how in the name of god do you people fuck pinning up this badly

1 week into 50mg dbol a day and 250 test e E3D and my libido is trash. No sides from dbol yet. Taking aromasin E3D because no sides yet should I back off on the aromasin even more?

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>>36662210

>>36662157
Does not change that American army can only occupy and hold, not enter a hostile nation and fuck shit up effectively.
That's why you've got marines and SF.

You're puffing your chest up about the effectiveness of your Army but it isn't boots on the ground that makes America tough, it's espionage and superior machines of war.
Bad guys run from your drones and your missiles. Not convoys of grunts.

>>36662263
thx bruh, seems like it's low.
Guess I'll do it E4D for now and go from there.

>>36662268

The grunts are there to be killed. It's natural selection, they're good only for something that's become pretty much obsolete.

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>>36662268
>Does not change that American army can only occupy and hold, not enter a hostile nation and fuck shit up effectively.
>That's why you've got marines and SF.

dude, you really have no idea how far over your head the water is right now and you're just walking further out

>You're puffing your chest up about the effectiveness of your Army but it isn't boots on the ground that makes America tough, it's espionage and superior machines of war.
>Bad guys run from your drones and your missiles. Not convoys of grunts.

1. do you know what "combined arms" means?
2. no, they actually run from all of it
3. who gives a shit if it's a or b or c or z, the entire fucking alphabet's coming along for the ride regardless so arguing the merits of a vs b vs c is immediately and utterly worthless

you're arguing shit based on a brief, faint brush with the boys that play in the big leagues and a whole bunch of guesses pulled out of your ass, not any kind of actual concrete knowledge or experience

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>>36661296

my 2d waifu.

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>>36662519

please let outfits like this one become a thing again for grillz. Oversized boots & regular jeans, hnnnnnnnng.

Also Moretz <3.

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>>36662538

>>36662438
>combined arms
No. Australia has no idea what this is.
Oh god it's actually painful to read the reports of our LTGEN's struggling to understand using combined arms.

You're basing all your assumptions on my knowledge on the fact I didn't deploy.
You don't have to deploy to know how thinks work brick. You would have done training prior to deployment. Would you not call that knowledge prior to being shot at? (Obviously just a small example, but you get my point)

I'm focusing on the fact you're acting like you're taking credit for that combined arms effort.
Like somehow you and your platoon walking through the desert is the reason Taliban run and hide, not the big fuck off bombs M777s lob, A-10s buzzing overhead and predators invisibly circling constantly.

When Pakistani kids are asked what they're afraid of, they don't say "American soldiers" they say "The drones"

>>36662519
Breh, I started CC and loved everything but there was one huge fucking problem that made me quit like 20hrs in.
It was waaaay to easy.
Literally never had a party member die.
Is it like that the whole game?
I really enjoyed it cuz it was comfy but holy shit, was it unchallenging.

>>36662538
This is a thing in Aus with bogan girls
Except they're uh boots and usually yoga pants

>>36662575

bogan?

>>36662567

Keep playing, there's 2 discs for a reason. There's a few bosses that actually require strategy. AND you'll need multiple new game+ plays to get all characters. Some routes are harder than others.

Also, if you want to try something different.

LET HER DIE.

>>36662616
white trash.

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>>36662575

Not a fan of her, but this outfit. On the right girl HNNNNNNNNNG. Makes no sense to wear workboots with a skimpy outfit like that but still HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG like hisao.

does anyone know how to get good steroids in brazil? labs here are shit tier and the pros won't give their list

>>36662616
>>36662676
Aren't there comfortable fashion boots now that look like work boots?
Actually yeah there definitely is, seen some before

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>>36662538

lord have mercy

I don't think the boots are actually oversized though, it's just comfortable as shit to tie them like that if it doesn't give you any heel slippage or shit like that

>>36662563

I'm not taking credit for shit, I'm simply stating we do it better than the next two or three militaries in the entire world

and like I apparently keep having to repeat, it's not a situation where it's bombs or drones or boots on the ground, IT'S ALWAYS FUCKING GOING TO BE ALL OF IT

jdams, hellfires, reapers, fast movers, all of the fucking whiz-bang shit is only an incomplete part of the picture that can't accomplish everything without having motherfuckers on the ground walking around and picking fights with people

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>weight loss = best facial gains
No more round face, nice and square now.
Also got veins in my hips and through my shoulders now.
Still wanna do a week or two on dnp with a 1K deficit, to bring me down to sub 10%
But domestic dnp seems to be an impossibility at this point due to my complete retardation at finding sources

$13 for 5 grams of TUDCA

Is this how much its supposed to cost? That's barely 25 tiny servings

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>>36662263
I just read the low estrogen sides and said "ah fuck" but then I remembered I'm trying to reverse the little bit of gyno I have with 5mg letero ED.

>>36662749
So you meant "we" in the same way someone refers to their sports team winning being "we"

Also I'd say "doing it better" is completely situational.
Eg the USA really fucked up when they found out they were funding 2 different Miliatias in Syria who were fighting each other instead of IS.

But the lessons learnt by seeing how Russia got fucked up in street by street fighting in Afghanistan lead to the US developing the best urban warfare strategies in the world.

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>>36662837
Thats nice. Very nice.

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>>36662837
>5mg letro ed

>>36662869

the royal "we", as in "the us military"

>Eg the USA really fucked up when they found out they were funding 2 different Miliatias in Syria who were fighting each other instead of IS.

that literally has nothing even tangentially to do with anything I was talking about

can you stop moving the goalposts

>>36661296

Anyone had experience with bunk arimidex?

I was using one brand that was working well until I ran out. Then I swapped to some other arimidex and I genuinely feel like it's not working.

My heart-rate is up, I've gained water and my nips are getting sensitive. Could the arimidex really be fake?

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>>36662923

ASS FOR THE ASS GOD

>>36663002

perfect example of why you always keep guaranteed legit shit around as insurance in case something turns out underdosed or completely fucked

>all this letro talk
going to switch from asin to letro in the next few weeks. currently taking 12.5mg asin eod. what would be a similar dose, but for letro?

>inb4 fraud bully brick bullies me.

>>36662977
>Royal
>USA
You lot wish you were still part of glorious commonwealth. Could have pledged allegiance to badass Queen Elizabeth instead of flag.

I thought we were taking about the USAs combined arms efforts making dessert dwellers run in fear?
CIA paying militias to fuck with people is part of that.
Or do we forget that Taliban were created to fight Russia and Iran only exists as it does thanks to CIA intervention?

Okay here's an example on a smaller scale.
Both US Army and USMC fucking suck at doing anything quitely.
Both have a history of bumbling through the scrub making noise, talking, lights and shit everywhere. Basically just attract the enemy to you then smash them with superior firepower.
Guerrilla warfare works great on Yanks because they aren't prepared for hit and run tactics.

>>36663088
i doubt you could split a letro pill into small enough pieces to get an equivalent dose

Putting in an order at powdercity:
L-Carnitine
Noopept
Taurine
Caffeine
TUDCA

Anything I should consider researching and adding in?

>>36663158
>taurine
Wat? Please explain

>>36663158
Adrafinil

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>>36663088

hey

hey

fuck you

but seriously why the fuck would you switch to the nuclear option

$43 for 30x25mg natco asin from either takky or adc

>>36663130

you're talking about apples and oranges, and STILL running with those goalposts

>>36663140

shit would be like powder at that point

>>36663189

...ew

>>36663201
You said the USA does it best
I'm saying it's totally circumstancially and the USA fucks plenty of shit up by not being the best.

Giving you examples and you keep claiming it has nothing to do with being the best

>>36663201
Moda is the real deal, if you can't get it then why not the pro-drug?

>>36663201
Those heels ruin it

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>On week 8 of my 500test e blast.

Is it safe to run dnp while on cycle?

Fuck dbol bloat

Anyone here who has run both deca and tren in separate cycles?

What's your opinion on the gains on tren vs. deca? Assuming eating at the same surplus on both. Naturally tren will lean you out more the entire time as compared to deca, but is the LMM gain roughly the same?

About to say fuck the deca and just give tren a second shot and hope I stay sane.

>>36663183
its in your goddamn sticky

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>>36663250

you're trying to argue that a regular military force should somehow be magical insurgent-fighting machines instead of, you know, a regular military force trained and equipped to fuck up other regular military

misapplication of the round peg into the square hole does not somehow mean the peg is shitty, especially when it still outstrips everyone else's by a fucking country mile

that is literally moving the goalposts from "the strongest, best-equipped, most well-funded military by several orders of magnitude that can kick the fucking shit out of anyone else around" to "WHY CAN'T A BUNCH OF GUYS TRAINED TO FIGHT OTHER GUYS LIKE THEM BEAT AN INSURGENCY BURIED IN AN ENTIRELY FOREIGN CULTURE?!"

you argument is fucking terrible and you should be ashamed that you've dragged it on for this long

>>36663259
>Moda is the real deal, if you can't get it then why not the pro-drug?

I mean... I guess?

still terrible though

>>36663265

pointy elbows/10

>>36663268
>cycle

found your problem right there

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>>36663353
>fuck Dbol
Stopped reading there
Get out!
Dbol is great m8 I r8 8/8

>>36663395
Implying I bothered reading the half finished sticky.
It's easier to gain knowledge just by asking Coah and brick questions and letting them give detailed specific answers

>>36663268
its a waste, isnt it?

>>36663410
dbol IS gr8 m8

the bloat is what I don't like, but fuark, these pumps are joocey

>>36663158
Phenibut

>>36663201

Any idea where this is from?

>>36663410
exactly what I'm doing usually. I've read the entire reddit wiki but it doesn't really answer everything. trying to search forums and youtube for answers results in a wide variety of opinions

>>36663410
Also what the fuck did you do to start working your chest more

my form is fucking top notch on everything and I still feel like I'm not working it enough

>>36663353
coach pls help

My first cycle was originally going to include Test E, Dbol, NPP... But on some forums I basically got ripped apart for wanting to go too hard on a first cycle. They said I should stick to 250mg test ONLY.

Is 500mg Test going to do me good for a first cycle? Is including other compounds on your first really such a shitty thing to do?

>>36663468
Go real slow on the cable cross and incline dumbbell press famm
Contract and squeeze that shit til youre about to cum your pants
6x12 on each, 30-45 sec rest.
Guarantee that chest gonna grow like fuck

>>36663401
Oh so you're ONLY talking about conventional warfare.
The way you worded it made me think you were saying the USA is the best at war, the entire spectrum of it, not just one small part.

Yes, the USA is good at conventional warfare.

>>36663436
The bloat goes away when you stop
Enjoy looking big no matter what you do

>>36663444
Yup, a lot of stuff to do with your body will be circumstancially as well, so you have to try to know.
But some people are a wealth of knowledge when it comes to how and why stuff happens.
So sticking around for those tidbits of knowledge is good.

>>36663468
Incline and decline bench. Plus flies
Fucking flies all the time.
Anons suggestion of upping chest to twice a week was good too.
Day 1 is heavy lifts on flat bench and trying to hit PRs
Day 2 is getting perfect form on incline and decline with 8-10 reps and smashing out extra sets of flies

Chest has started to look nice and full

>>36663353
Deca is much milder and easier on your joints, you can do a 20 week low-and-slow blast and make mad gains.

Tren is great but you're pretty much limited to 10 weeks by mental sides and it requires a joint-supporting synergist compound to get the most out of it (preferably var).

bernie-clinton 60-40

>>36661296
what happened to JM?

>>36661892
>You're easy as fuck to decimate in land warfare.
>It's drones, C130s, jets and bombs that do your dirty work.
>>36663505
>Oh so you're ONLY talking about conventional warfare.

Fucking spastic go drink bleach

figured I'd ask again..

Is there a cheap store to get TUDCA? It's the most expensive of all the recommended supplements in the wiki by far, according to the stores I've looked at.

>>36663500
Thanks for the advice, doing 6x12 on each currently but will slow it down
>>36663505
just recently added in higher frequency on my flyes, will see if it helps in time, thanks
>>36663523
currently exactly what I just started out, 20 weeks of 600mg/wk test 500mg/wk deca

considering just adding a low (350?) dose of tren to my cruise to avoid sides and shred up after the deca bulk. seem reasonable?
>>36663539
g4p pics leak
suicide by suffocation in aboriginal hooker ass
>>36663575
what exactly are you trying to get tudca for? to run with what compound?

>>36663600
>g4p pics leak
is this true?

i remember JM calling chem a degenerate (pot callin kektle black) for doing g4p

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>>36663443

beyond the tumblr from the watermark, nah

>>36663468

my upper body is fucking retarded from the combo of decently wide-grip, arched bench with 8 rep chest dips as heavy as you can go, also going slightly crazy with my back accessory work in addition to the whole heavy as shit deadlifts

3-4 sets of weighted supinated or neutral grip chins, a mid-back row like t-bar or seated cable, and the thing that really adds the last little bit of oomph, 2 sets of 12-20 rep kroc rows with just chalk then add straps and up the weight as heavy as you can go while still hitting that 12-20

>>36663600
Advice 1: don't ask manletgains for advice
Advice 2: don't take advice from manletgains
Advice 3: learn how to really contract your specific muscles properly, use light weight and get the motions, form, and "feeling" of it down. It's key imo for hypertrophy training and also makes it feel so much more satisfying

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Friend of mine and her boyfriend.

Explain the legs, he's a stick as it is but... I never understood how he even walks.

>>36663600
Cruising is about getting your health markers in check m8, you should drop plenty of water coming off that stack anyway.

See what you look like 8 weeks into cruising, if you want more shreds then add 200-400mg mast e to help you look dry and tight without the tren sides.

>>36663623
very true, link somewhere in old thread
beware the anus
>>36663625
>decently wide grip, arched
can work on my arch I'm sure, but the grip is fine
>8-rep chest dips as heavy as you can go
I do 12 unweighted, will have to try weighting them

kroc rows + t-bar are two of my favorite lifts.

>>36663639
kek

form is already pretty solid, will definitely attempt to work on any small issues on my light day though

>>36663600
wanting tudca to run with dbol.. Maybe a different oral in the future but that's what I got coming in to me in the mail

>>36663683
>girlfriends arm is bigger than his
>the shorts
>the shirt
>the hair
>the shoes
they make these guys in a factory somewhere, I'm convinced.

>>36663687
I will have bloods done post-blast as usual, basically my question applied only if everything checked out, but thanks for the advice on mast.
>>36663704
don't worry about tudca with just dbol, unless you have an extremely sensitive liver, it's really not necessary.

time inbetween blasts... Is it set in stone time on = time off?

Using steroids at 18 years of age, been lifting since 15 consistently with good results. How does 500mg test 15 wks 5 wks 50 mg dianabol and 12.5mg aromasin ed sound
question is for how long do I cruise after I come off cycle? planning to just cruise at 200mg week

thanks

>>36663683
Every time I see a skeleton with a girlfriend I always wonder how they can be attracted to someone who is literally the same size or smaller than them

>>36663718
cycle looks fine, cruising is indefinite, go as long as you'd like. Generally time on=time off between blasts, but getting bloodwork done is the real proof of recovery.

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>>36663544
You clearly don't understand that they are completely different docterines.
Combined arms is when you add different doctorines together.
Guerrilla warfare and conventional are two very different things and are fought very differently.
That alone should be easy even for an idiot to understand

>>36663600
>tfw having a full chest
Is an awesome feeling
Gotta push it up so its massive, I want them fuckin man boobies

>>36663625
btw fuck your for suggesting dips kek
Yes they work but god damn they make me feel like a bitch

>>36663718
Blast 12-15 weeks
Cruise 6-8 weeks

I started roids at 18 and it was the best decision I've ever made famm, these gains goblins just don't wanna see a kid make it

>>36663718
50mg Dbol could jack up your BP too much, keep an eye on it and do your cardio.

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JUST

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>>36663639
>Advice 3: learn how to really contract your specific muscles properly, use light weight and get the motions, form, and "feeling" of it down. It's key imo for hypertrophy training and also makes it feel so much more satisfying

I think I just learned the proprioceptive shit ass-backwards, going heavy as fuck and being forced to learn how to actually maximally contract everything to keep bumping the weight up

>>36663683

holy fuck, did his parents sent their kid to a jewish summer camp?

>>36663696

for reference even on a cut I'm doing at least one working set of 5 at 335, then for dips 6@190 12-15@135 and 15-20@90, then maybe some incline bench afterwards

most of the time I actually try to stay away for dips heavy enough that I can't do at least 8 on my first set, but my shoulders have been playing nice lately since I started doing more lu raises to strengthen my supraspinatus

chins went from like 8@bw to 20+ and 8+@45, 2-3 sets of weighted and 1-2 sets of bodyweight to kill my lats and hit 4 sets

>>36663744

"land warfare" and "conventional warfare" are synonymous, trying to say otherwise is disingenouous at best

>>36663472
any advice on this?

>>36663744
5 mins of googling led me to this
Combined arms is when you add different combat arms of the military together in order to achieve mutually complementary effects.
Combined arms does not suggest the combination of two completely different battlefield tactics, but the combination of arms, something even an idiot should be able to guess

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>>36663838

500, maybe an oral

you can do whatever the fuck you want, but it's going to be better in the long run if you don't try and go full retard right off the bat

>>36663756
>>36663734
>>36663753

thanks guys, how does one fare with gear costs? are they expensive? I'm starting college in the fall and was wondering if its fairly easy to pay for gear costs and cruise. PCT drugs are expensive as fuck and i figure cruising year round is way cheaper and healthier too than constant hormone fluctuation, i mean if you're on you may as well stay on and you only accelerate the inevitable TRT anyway
plus with each proceeding generation according to the medical literature having lower T, we're practically all 18 y/os with the test levels of a 80 year old man in the 1920s, whats perceived as normal now isn't actually normal
i do cardio 3x a week so ill keep ontop of it if anything

>>36663828
>"land warfare" and "conventional warfare" are synonymous, trying to say otherwise is disingenouous at best
I would actually agree for the most part.
However.
You can't always have all of your assets.
>Good luck taking tanks through a jungle.
>Planes aren't so great in cities
>Land locked nations = no massive anti-air weapons platforms

You have to keep doctorines seperate for circumstances where you can't use combined arms.

>>36663853
You literally backed up what I am saying.
Convential warfare is a type of war, in the 21st century it usually entails a combination of military forces in an attempt to counter an enemy nations military.

It does not include warfare such as digital, espionage, guerrilla, political etc

These are all VERY different things. Regardless of how they can be used in tandem to aid each other

>>36663828
>I think I just learned the proprioceptive shit ass-backwards, going heavy as fuck and being forced to learn how to actually maximally contract everything to keep bumping the weight up.

I used to focus on strength mainly as well, but after fucking the joints in my shoulders slightly up and getting 2 separate short term injuries from deadlift I gave it up

I still do strength every once in a while but not to the degree or with the level of focus as before.
Ive also stopped deadlifts completely.

No regrets at all though, Ive gained a lot of LBM, look way more proportional now, and shoulder pain is gone.

>>36663893
Where do you live?

>>36663912
Bruh are you retarded, stop changing what you're talking about with every post you make, how do you keep up with your own bullshit

Better to muscle hcg or pin under the skin?

>>36664019
sub-q in belly fat is what I've always heard, never used myself, could be horribly wrong and thinking of something like igf

>>36663838
It's really up to you, NPP honestly isn't too crazy to throw in a first cycle, I've heard good things from those who did.
Keep your test base at 500ew, add an oral kickstart if you want, and throw in npp if you want.

The reason people reccomend test only for first cycle is because you really can't predict how your body will handle the compounds and how much it will aromatize

But, Like I said it's really up to you, if you do your research and have a fundamental understanding of what you're taking, the potential sides and so on, then go for it..

>>36663998
I've changed nothing

>brick says America is the best at war
>I say its circumatancial
>he says conventional war
>I agree
>you interject with retardation by confusing land warfare doctrine with combined arms
>I point out that combined arms is not the same as land warfare
>you try to put combined and conventional warfare into the same boat
>I point point out how they are different and why NATO militaries specifically keep them seperate
>you try to pretend I've changed the topic

>>36664056
>>36661892
>I've played army mans with Americans
>You're easy as fuck to decimate in land warfare.

According to you land warfare doesn't entail combined arms then?

>>36663130
They lack discipline as a people and a culture of loud, obnoxious posturers. Is their militarys behavior really that surprising in this regard?

>>36664056
>>36664084

America IS easy to defeat on the ground in land warfare because their doctrine is written for conventional warfare.
Not guerrilla or digital.
Are they easy to defeat in conventional war? Fuck no!
But it's pretty fucking easy to fire a few rockets at a convoy or base then vanish before artillery or air can be called in.

I'm sure brick can agree that one of the most common occurrences for and fob or a pog base is to have rockets, mortars or random machine gun fire come at them and the shooters scurry off before anyone can shoot back

Just did my carb refeed a day early
Never going to get a gf

>>36663946
U.S

Cheeks are sinking in again.

I think my face actually looks more aesthetic off gear. No water retention in my face.

>>36664111
It's unfair to say that this is solely an American problem. Developed nations in general are ill-equipped for counter-insurgency.

https://open.spotify.com/track/6aKC3NwkV0oyf0SYnUnkbd

Such punkrock , many angst, wow.

That said, any good beach songs I can do on my guitar? It's been a while since I played but girls dig it. I'm not bad and apparently can sing okay as well so...

Anything nice for stoned/high teenagers?

Got invited by a 17yo and her friends, and THEY'RE bringing the drugs.

Marihuana for 8 and 8 tabs of 2cb.

I'm bringing purple kush, pineapple express and another 8 tabs of 2cb as well as 2.5g 4fa and mdma. They don't know.

I know nothing about pot. Those two came highly recommended. Kek.

>>36664183
Obviously.
Most NATO militaries and doctorines are interchangeable.
But we're specifically talking USA because someone wants to try pretend they're some come of undefeated King of war
>lost its last 2 campaigns
>can't be defeated on land kek

Considering dropping the comp. comp is same day as my pease expiring. Gotta adult and decide between comp fees, tanning, and tailored shorts or a new house.

Sup with you nerds
>got gf
>npp in the mail
>got nipples pierced
>still big

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>>36664227
>got gf
Still celebrating my prophecy coming true

>>36661793
Free, pharmaceutical quality gear is best gear.

>>36664212

Isn't the last war the US won their own civil war?

>>36664267
P sure we count dropping atom bombs on japan as a decisive victory

>>36664055
I've been told that on your first cycle, Test alone works such wonders that throwing in an oral on your first is a waste of money too, as the gains from Test will be kind of plateaued in that first time period.

Is this bullshit?

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This is what my waifu did to my back when she wasn't my ex.

This was very mild.

God I miss this.

>yes, PLENTY of scars.

Will post 17yo qt I would do in a heartbeat that will be attending said drugfest after this.

Pantydropping song

#1 goo goo dolls - iris.

>>36664267
kek
>didn't England burn Washington to the ground?

tfw Australia never won a war, just managed to be the first to defeat Rommel, first to defeat Japan, successfully ran away from Gallipoli with zero deaths during evac.

Aborigines are probably the only war Aus won it its own.

>>36664318
>when sooner or later it's over
>I just don't wanna miss you tonight
>AND I DONT WANT THE WORLLLLD TO SEE ME

t b h f a m you're right

>Oasis - Wonderwall
p gud too

>17y/o

you and yolo should go on a double b8 d8 m8

>>36664246
You're making me feel weird

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>>36664097
>s their militarys behavior really that surprising in this regard?

the fact that you think this is somehow magically isolated to the us military is cute

>>36664183

sshhhh

it's like trying to hammer a nail into mercury, it's dense as shit and will just move around any point you try to make

>>36664212

holy shit do you fucking ignore anything that doesn't support your fucked as a football bat viewpoint or do you just have the memory of a goldfish?

like half a dozen posts ago

>misapplication of the round peg into the square hole does not somehow mean the peg is shitty, especially when it still outstrips everyone else's by a fucking country mile

it means you're a fucking idiot for using a round peg instead of a square one

>because someone wants to try pretend they're some come of undefeated King of war

don't get butthurt at me just because I'm stating simple facts

>>36664227
>>36664286

who the fuck wants to be an adult

>P sure we count dropping atom bombs on japan as a decisive victory

el oh el

>>36664318

or black balloon

>>36664334
>first to defeat Japan

uh...

where has trendick and yolo gone? does canary still post?

>>36664318
Nice back you fucking twink

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>>36664286

Ah right.

This gryll and her sister will be there. 16 and nearly 18.

She's approved yes?

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>>36664352
You should feel weird kek

>>36664361
>stating facts
Still lost last 2 campaigns
As I said originally, it is ALL circumstancial.

Google battle of Kokoda.
Time to learn of the first time Japanese forces faced defeat during WWII
Australian reservists fought like savages and managed to halt Japan for the first time during the war.

>>36664364
Whatsapp
Canary posts occasionally and people get mad that he has harsh views on girls

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>>36664392
>nearly 18

>>36664449
Legal age is 18
Poor Americans

>>36664444
checked
i thought canary stopped whatsapp cos it was makin him upset
>>36664470
actually the age of consent ranges, i believe the majority of the states have it set at 16.

>>36664444
Is it really that weird I don't think so

>>36664267
>Iraq war
victory
>Libya
victory
>Afghanistan
victory
>Kosovo
victory
>Bosnia
victory
>Haiti
victory
>Somalia
victory
>Gulf war
victory
>Panama
victory
>Tanker war
victory
>Grenada
victory
>Cold war
victory
>Dominican civil war
victory
>Lebanon
victory

>Korea
stalemate
>Bay of pigs
defeat
>Vietnam
defeat

>>36664501
Didn't hear any of that
Only know he still pops up and posts occasionally

>age of consent
At least they're catching up to the rest of the world

>>36664504
A bit weird after insisting you wouldn't date her m8 :^)

>>36664534
>tries to claim Iraq and Afghanistan as victories
>that delusion
>or just bait

>>36664552
Afghanistan
>Victory
>American-led coalition invasion and occupation of Afghanistan
>Destruction of al-Qaeda training camps
>Fall of the Taliban government
>Establishment of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan under the Karzai administration
>Start of Taliban insurgency
>Death of Osama bin Laden in Pakistan
>Commencement of war's 2015–present phase

Iraq
>Victory
>Invasion and occupation of Iraq
>Overthrow of Ba'ath Party government and execution of Saddam Hussein
>Iraqi insurgency, emergence of al-Qaeda in Iraq, and civil war
>Subsequent depletion of al-Qaeda in Iraq, improvements in public security, Iraqi insurgency persists
>Establishment of democratic elections and formation of new Shia-led government
>U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement
>Withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq
>Increased Iranian influence in Iraq
>Escalation of sectarian insurgency after U.S. withdrawal and spillover with the Syrian Civil War
>Rise of the Islamic State of Iraq, the successor of al-Qaeda in Iraq

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All my raws feel and smell right
Too bad I just started a cruise
I should be doing 2g test

>>36661296
>steal jerry's waifu edition
EXCUSE ME

>>36664286
I like how it mutated their women into 2d as well
USA USA

>>36664612
Oh so you're claiming victory while the fighting continues.
Makes total sense. Totally not political bullshit to placate an angry populace back home wanting to know why billions is being spent on war.

Solid arguement anon.
I admit defeat. America totally crushed everything everywhere kek

>>36664636
>2g test
you're either huge or wasteful sempie, when are we getting pics

show us that qt butt

also since you're the resident eq dude, have you ever mixed eq with deca? i'd imagine it's more efficient to just use in separate cycles, or it needs to be ran iwth excessive amounts of caber

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>>36664392

Acoustic version of

>Lean on, acoustic
>polly, acoustic
>JB's Sorry but rewritten for guitar
>coldplay - scientist
>our last night - wrecking ball
>mumford and sons - I gave you all and lovers eyes.
>sting - shape of my heart

Anything acoustic dire straits captures people's interest. If you can do knopflers voice OK.

Private investigations is good. As is where do you think you're going.

>franz ferdinand - dream again
>https://open.spotify.com/track/6nMV8kUcl892SqibezGjPw

That one, so angsty, so workable on teens.

https://open.spotify.com/track/7wWT7zdP8Uws7yriwSQyW3

Legit tears. One relationship cliché after another. Good movie

>>36664292
is this a dumb question?

>>36664449

16 is legal here.

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>>36664661
lmao I'm a twink

I cant handle nand, its too wet
I dont see why youd separate them though eq is so light

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>>36664693
I hate this country
>tfw won't ever be able to pretend to be back in high school and persuade easily malleable teen girls in to slobbing on the knob

why even live?

>>36664738
Go to Alabamer, Mac on some 15 year olds there.

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Bernie Sanders was one of the main players on the committee that demonized Sosa, McGuire etc during the steroids congressional hearings in the 90s.

What does /fraud/ think about that? You guys all #FeelinTheBern?

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>>36664738
thats why god invented loli porn

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>>36664738

you obviously don't know what it's like being a ready-made replacement father figure for chicks a decade younger than you

one chick turned red as a tomato when I caught her eye-fucking me from across the lab bench because I was leaning on it propped up by my elbows doing some shit to my experiment

>>36664708
isn't that the kid that did a shitload of DNP BEFORE he started lifting weights?

>>36664809
Bernie as a politician is pretty horrible, but some of his political ideas make a lot of sense. Universal health-care, minimal wage, removal of the college debt slave system and general social safety nets should not be revolutionary things.

Sadly with Bernie much of it is driven by ideology and not by common sense and the result of this is that most of his opinions are based on ideology. See his weird stances on nuclear energy for example.

>>36664809
Fuck your file size.

>>36664129
You can buy gear cheap off the internet, might have to be careful getting it sent to a campus though.

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damn I;m drinking way too much on this pmsf
I dont even think I'm at adeficit today

>>36664830
thought it was clen or something?
but yeah

its ok we all have body dysmorphia in someway

>>36664809
theyre all fucks
whos that congressman who used campaign moeny for videogames
thats the president we need

>>36664650
They are different conflicts and operations, friend :^)

>Operation Active Endeavour
>Operation Enduring Freedom
>Operation Enduring Freedom – Afghanistan
>Operation Enduring Freedom – Philippines
>Operation Enduring Freedom – Horn of Africa
>Operation Enduring Freedom – Trans Sahara
>Operation Iraqi Freedom
>Operation New Dawn

all victories

Now we are in
>Operation Inherent Resolve
aka the War against ISIL

Don't get mad at me, get mad at Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States

mmmm look at all those victories

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Do you guys agree with "Time on = time off" on cycles? I'm researching and across forums that seems to be the broad consensus, but I get a strong feeling that it's overly cautious for the sake of idiots who hurt themselves...

>>36664227
Just continue prepping like you were going to compete and get the new place, check what the competition was like later and be satisfied knowing you would've destroyed them. Those things are such shitshows anyways at the local level, maybe wait until after your next bulk then just annihilate the competition and have an easier time about it too.

>>36664985
That's also not including your pct either. 4 mo cycle, 1mo pct, 4 mo off.
That's why you b&c anyways.

>>36665036
can you cycle DNP while you're doing your PCT?

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What are some good foods for PSMF? Supposed to be around 1300cals with 250g protons and I'm going to get sick of egg beaters, tuna and chicken after a month.

>>36665036
So like, you only get two blasts in in a year, and what do your gains look like after a blast in numbers? And how much do you lose during the 4 mo off?

>>36665062
You can do dnp whenever, but you're supposed to eat low carb/ low cal while doing dnp, which is going to make HTPA axis recovery difficult/prolonged. You'd end up losing gains.

>>36665064
fish

and I like to add in a lil turkey food substitutes
like I'll have 1/2 a spicy turkey sausage one day, like 7 slices of that small turkey pepperoni the next (but not hormel that shit is gross christ)

whey+coffee is good too, nice appetite killer

>>36665062
absolutely do not go into a deficit on pct
you have crashed your test levels

I'd recommend doing more research into what pct is and what it does for you if youre asking that

>>36665099
>>36665085
I've never seen the term HTPA axis recovery before.. what is that?

And yes I need much more research

>>36665076
I did a 6mo blast, put on a solid 35lbs, at least 25 muscle. Hit 2/3/4/5. My cals were only around maintenance my last month and in the very beginning, so I could have gotten another 10lbs if I tried harder.
Coming off, you'll lose some strength, some mass, maybe 15-20% if you pct well you can keep losses minimal. It really depends on how much you're over your natty limit. If you're under, you'll lose a lot less, but if you're over you'll lose more, so that's why it's better to b&c once you have a lot of mass.
You'll still lose 5-10 lbs of water weight, so you can't include that.

>>36665125
Hippocampus, testicular, pituitary axis. Essentially your estro, test, and gh production. Regulation of your body's hormone levels. Like the other guy said, going in a deficit on pct is not a good idea to do.

>275 incline bench 5x5
I am a weak pupper but that felt strong

>>36663683
I think my mom has his sandals too.

>>36665144
I'm nowhere near my full natty limit.. Using gear to GET to that limit, is why I'm cycling.
6 month is a REALLY long blast isn't it? Is that safe?

>>36665259
"blast and cruise" means being on roids all year round senpai

Hey
If I wante to grow, what should i take and how often?
HGH with arimidex or something like that?
Thank you for your time.

>>36665259
I did 6mo because of the compounds I was using. I wanted to really take advantage of equipoise for my cardio/endurance b/c milfag. I only ran something strong (tren) my last 10w.

>>36661296

This looks just like my dog. Thanks for posting, OP.

>>36665274
yeah but it means your 'blast' is a cycle but you cruise inbetween them and it still lasts the same amount of time, right?

I kinda want to just BnC for a year and see how big I can get in that time.. Maybe actually reach my natty limit or get much closer to it.

>>36665345
A blast can be however long you want it to be. Over 6mo kind of takes away the effectiveness unless you're on hgh because your tendons can keep up with the muscular growth. They don't repair/strengthen as quickly. In addition you have to worry about bone density and physically being able to support rapid weight gain without causing damage to joints etc. Then you have to worry about your liver because of enzyme change and roiding tends to lower your good cholesterol and up your bad cholesterol. Time off or cruising allows your body to move closer to homeostasis, adjust to your weight gain, and recover.

has anyone seen JuicinJ?

>>36665439
this is actually really relevent to my interests because I've always been curious if the tendon/join stress form rapid muscle growth is exaggerated and how long it takes for your tendons, etc to adjust

>>36665511
haven't seen him in quite a while

same with jm but for more obvious reasons

>>36665523
I know he had some personal shit go down. He poked his head up then poofed again and I haven't heard from him in two weeks.

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>>36665175

not bad, primary compound or accessory after some other shit?

I'm going to hammer the everloving shit out of my tris, shit's always been my weak spot with bench and it really shows from my choice of grip width to how much my incline lags in comparison to flat

>>36665291

so fucking glad I never have to run another goddamn 6 at 06 because some stupid twinky faggot cross country pl doesn't know how to do anything else, bitch I'm built like the love child of two nfl linebackers

I dared that motherfucker to say a goddamn thing again after the first time we took casualties and the shitbag that runs his 6 at like an 8:30-9:00 pace is slinging grown ass men in full combat loads around like they're little kids as they cry for momma

lord you haven't lived until you've seen a super motard RANGER TAB bc with veins throbbing out of his face because you just steady pace out a 12 miler in 3 hours flat

>>36665439

holy shit somebody else can actually string together a couple coherent sentences to convey logical, reasoned thought

>>36665522

test by itself above some number that I can't remember off the top of my head (180mg? 280mg?) is supposed to actually downregulate collagen synthesis in connective tissues, according to a study I've got bookmarked and don't feel like actually making the effort to find

it's a moderate issue that's alleviated somewhat by the more volumetric emphasis most people put on their training while they're on gear, but you're still playing with fire to a certain extent and just seeing how much you can toe the line without fucking something up and putting yourself out of the gym for weeks/months/etc

crossing my fingers that I can pull a miracle out of my ass and get legit tb500 from a chinese supplier

>>36665522
It's definitely not exaggerated. Depending on your viewpoint. My buddy ran a gram of test (he's an idiot), put on a ton of mass, threw out his shoulder and can't lift any more. Permanently fucked up.
Granted that's anecdotal and more on the extreme end, but joints and tendons are under high stress while roiding.

>>36665585
Hit inclines after 250 neutral grip pulldowns and 4.5 plate tbar

>>36665585
The company I just left got one of those PLs in my platoon. We had some barrel chested Lt that liked to do crossfit before. I fucked my back on a jump so I hardly run anymore but I was able to keep an 8:30-9 on my 5s. One of the fastest sprinters. But now that I'm 240+ I'd be lucky to get under 9:30.
No damn reason to worry about getting under a 3hr 12mi. We had an 8mi <2hr recently that over half the battalion didn't get <2hr (we're mainly all 11B1P).

>holy shit somebody else can actually string together a couple coherent..
After working with retards 24/7 it's easy to break it down Barney style

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>>36665616

not too shabby

might've been able to do fractionally more if you'd warmed up and done inclines first, but pre-exhausting antagonists isn't going to fuck with the agonist's ability to fully contract by that much given you're only going to lose a portion of the potential stabilization

I don't know if I like seated cable rows more or stealing the triangle grip from it and doing t-bars, I usually shy away from t-bars since I'm doing the shit after deads and expecting my posterior chain to be happy about having to static hold 4-5 plates while I'm doing rows is a bit much

I fucking love neutral chins though, last set of 20-25 dead hangs after three heavy weighted sets makes me feel like I can fly

>>36665694

>fucked my back on a jump

fuck everything about that goddamn maroon beret and its magical gravitation vortex that warps all rational thought approaching it into the most motarded cockgobbling faggotry imaginable

the fucking struggle to take care of my guys and keep these stupid cunts from completely breaking them before they hit their mid-20s was insane with light infantry, I heard enough shit from classmates that got shipped to bragg to be blown away

people would look like they just saw a talking monkey when the sham shield doc starts bawling out some shithead whose rockers completely cut off the oxygen to his brain and started giving him ideas about how the dude who was on his way to needing help getting around for the rest of his life was a profile-riding shitbag

jeeeezus, some of that shit... if motherfuckers didn't know I had an outside voice like a goddamn air raid siren before that happened, they sure as fuck did afterwards when their ears stopped ringing

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Order just landed from puresarms, how much mk677 do I take to get healing gains? What dose does it start to become negative?

Jesus fucking christ dbol pumps are fucking nothing compared to tren pumps

If my hair line is already

>JUST

Will roids just finish it off even with hair replacement/medication

Can i run the ECA stack with Mk-677?

>>36665887
i was thinking about doing mk 677 and was going to do 25mg

this good?

>>36665954
Yeah of course. I actually make sure I use Eca around the time of ingestion so I don't go crazy and eat the world.

>>36665961
25 is good yeah, that's basic dose. You can go as high as 100MG according to mk677 studies and the effects on your serum gh levels will increase. 50mg gives me bloated numb fingers/hands.

>>36665935
Maybe. Probably. In one of his videos piano man said he was losing hair and then used a combination of things including fin I believe and says they worked. Don't know if he ever got transplants. Also your response to these drugs will vary just as your response to hormones varies. There is no always correct answer.

In general though it seems to me from reading anecdotes that if your hairline is totally stable on its own, you'll be OK. If it is starting to go, then there are better odds that hormones will kill it off faster. Obviously these hair saving strategies don't work for everyone, but they do work for some.

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>>36665935

if you're going to lose it you're going to lose it and no amount of kicking and screaming is going to save it, gear will only accelerate this process

so skip the other four stages and go straight to acceptance, buzz it and start getting jacked

>>36665935
Yes, start roids only once you're at the point of no return.

What do you guys do to protect your joints? I'm only taking fish oil atm

>>36665963

Yehhhhh, is it best to take mk-677 before bed?


On a side note, why have i just herd of mk-677?

>>36666013

Also does anyone for the cycling info on mk-677? 5-25mg with 5 days on 3 days off?

>>36666013
Because people here thought it was a meme. That's what happens when you deal with 4chan people.
Take it whenever you want, in the studies they cycled it in the morning though.

Sales at puresarms.com is probably the best source I've used.

Tfw too scared to test 1RMs because of fucked joints and being on tren

>>36666103

How bad is the lethargicness?

Didn't this general have a pastebin a long time ago?

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>>36666135
yes

>>36665819
Thanks dogger

I think I may go back to an Arnold split alternating agonist/antagonist pairings. Had good results with that. Since I'm not hitting this spring comp I may try to a 250 and work on gaining some strength focusing on some 5x5 schemes.

>>36666133
I don't get lethargic. If anything you'll get a ton more energy. You also risk getting insomnia if you take it before bed and can't fall asleep.

>>36666142
link?

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>>36666180

oh rlyy

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>>36666147

aw yiss

that's actually kinda why I do bench/bi deads/tri and squat/ohp, my tris are already fucking wrecked after bench/dips/incline so it'd be fucking pointless to try and get shit done then

plus that's kinda the only way I can figure to shuffle everything around and have shit actually work for a 3-day

excited to see how basically doubling training days with a whole lot more assistance and variation is going to treat me with enough retard-strength gear to turn me into an ogre

>>36666352
Have you tried like horizontal push/horizontal pull vertical push/vertical pull bi/tri

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>>36666522

I actually haven't but that's because aside from ohp I'd be robbing from one lift to give to another if I did more than just bench, deads, or squats in a day

I fucking despise trying to do deads and squats same session or same day, and pretty much all of the other possible combinations are equally fucked

like I said, bench/bi deads/tri squat/ohp is the only workable shit I could figure out

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I'm a raw newbie with only a month of lifting experience... My friend is amazing and has been helping me with my form and diet and I feel great and I'm pretty lucky to have his help. He's an awesome guy but today he's telling me he seriously wants me to jump on steroids with him to speed things up.

He seems very knowledgeable about them, and he's huge, but I feel like he's biased as hell and I'm only 150lbs, 12% bodyfat and 5'9, as I'm just getting started..

I want another opinion. What will happen if a scrub like me who's just getting started gets on gear to speed things up? I'm not gonna lie.. I'm REALLY tempted by all the gain promises, and it's not that I'm not willing to work hard (I'm busting my ASS in the gym and kitchen!) but I've also just hit 30 and I ain't getting any younger.. What do you guys think?

>>36666724
If you wanted an unbiased opinion you should go to Reddit or Sth, everyone here will tell you to hop on or that they don't give a shit about what you do.

>>36666724
Your joints will explode. Also maybe tiddies.

You don't even know if you like lifting yet damn. Tell your dog to chill, while you focus on eating and programming for a year or two. Figure out if you even like the hobby.

>>36666243
Other anon here, I get bad insomnia on mk677, but feel pretty alright throughout the day. For example I woke up at least 10 times last night been in bed from 11 to 6 and been awake for most of the time, but I'm working out now and doing fine. I use phenibut once a week to get a good night's sleep and don't cycle for longer than 4 weeks because of the increase in BP I get besides the insomnia

>>36666724
Well honestly, the health risks are your own choice, but if you are still a noob to lifting, it would be a waste of your health to hop on gear without really knowing how to train or diet.

If you want to hop on you need to be able to understand training and diet fully by yourself, or at least that is the intelligent thing to do if you want good results. If you hop on gear and eat and train like a natty, you will get better results, but not nearly what you could accomplish if you understand the changes you need to make to accommodate the gear.

Is it safe to use EC Stack while on Test/Winny for cutting?

Do I have to take accutan for mild roid arcne like it's supposed to be taken (accumulated dosage 100-150mg per kilo over 6month) of can I just take some 20mg tabs for the duration of my cycle.

Even at takkys it's about 600$ for a full therapy. Little hesitant about the price

>>36664444
Nice quads you fucking midget.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu_War
>Australia loses war to unaware, flightless bird opponents
>proceeds to run mouth on greatest military in the history of the world because we can't simultaneously root out guerilla fighters and follow the rules of the Geneva convention, and human decency

>>36666724
Learn more about it and make your own educated decisions. Used appropriately, they're a great tool and don't have severe side effects in >99% of cases.

Misused, steroids are an absolute shitshow with severe side effects coming as part of the deal.

As a fellow 30yo I see nothing wrong with a little 400/wk "high trt" dose, but know what you're getting into. If you've got specific questions please ask

18 Australia, never done roids before and know nothing about them, will research later but how does anvar go?

>>36667850
How much are you taking? I took 80mg and I damn near shit my liver.

Update: So the bloodworks came back. Liver is fine. Kidneys are fine. Liver is still slightly tender but no inflammation. Very odd. Gallstone is possible but it would have to be in very early stages. Probably gonna clear up now that I'm on tudca. Accutane is annoying.

>>36666724
The reason most newbies are warned to stay away from it is because of the diet and training factor. Plus, if you don't like the hobby of lifting, you'll fall out of touch with it and your steroid use will be an irrelevant waste. That being said, I started as a noob, about 6mos lifting experience, and haven't looked back since, but YMMV.

>>36668743
yes

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>>36661845
>and you'll die a tired, broken, powerless old shell of your former self who had to spend years scurrying from hole to hole like a rat
Seems like someone is living the boss life IN THIS PIC

you're just jealous. Look at all that high tech

>>36666103
they don't have a webpage right, you gotta contact them by mail?
I was kinda thinking about getting some lgd but >yurop
I can literally get anavar more easily than sarms what the fuck

>>36668878
Cheers cunt

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>>36668912
In those last 10 years. He managed to watch a lifetime of porn.

fucking lmao why are all natty lanklets so insecure? in the ideal gf height thread all lanklets wanted a girl that was like barely over 5' kek

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>>36668973
indeed, I bet he just lived like a boss.

again, a typical american hero story to say he lived like a rat

look at his hugh hefner mansion.

>>36668978
>lanklets
absolutely the fucking worst

>girl that was barely over 5'
because then they can at least say "short girls like tall guys, lol right?..right?"

>inb4 a slight breeze rolls through and their girl is left alone as they float off into the distance

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>>36668999
I mean... if you were told you had 10 years left would you do anything differently from him?

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>>36669025
Who woudn't? I mean, this is was the best option.

boss lif-tier, as i would call it. Jm got nothing on this guy

SULTAN OUT

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>>36669133
How many plastic pussies do you reckon he owned?

In for I just paid 5 dollars for a website to see if my gf is using tinder or okcupid.
Tfw

>get on test
>constantly wanna cheat on my gf
>sloots are actualy looking my way
You haven't prepared me for this. How do I handle it? I already ,astrubate furiously every time gf is away.

>>36669262
Does she?

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>>36669241
72 virgin pussies

>>36669314
Nope.
I really wasn't worried but an ad popped up offering the search so I stupidly paid 5 bucks.

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>>36669324
Kek

Clomid or Nolva after Test E only cycle?

>>36669429
>cycle
no

>>36668743
Wew lad.
Too young.
Keep lifting and lurking.
Research your Gear, AI, PCT, possible sides from everything
Var is pricey

Guy at work just shouted out
"My girl said she lost 25lbs, I slapped her on the ass and said I found it baby!!"

>>36669522
Do you work with special needs folk?

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>>36669522
$10 she has an ass flatter than a pancake.

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>>36669291
lmao, you think you're the only one

she's thinking about the BBC all the time

she would cheat on your ass when she has the chance


>>36669429
Nolva

>>36669437
What's wrong with cycling.

Imo it's good to do a couple of cycles first before considering to start bnc

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>>36669562
Flat butts are depressing.

>>36669607

nigger

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>>36669679
i go crazy when i see high test.

thick juicy round ass is the best

>>36669683
Woudn't you prefer bigger boobs/tight pussy and a good ass

>thinks there aren't better options than himself

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>>36669717
>i go crazy when i see high test
Same. test500 is nuts

>>36668762
None at the moment. Still trying to get it on free healthcare but if shit breaks loose I gotta get it from takky that's why I was wondering if there is a accutan "vcruise" protocol

At the moment trying to get it with creams and zinc under control

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>>36669679
Breh...

>>36669717
Your girl have a nice ass? IIRC she was on the smaller side physically.

>>36669767
Tfw 500test but low/no libidos. I must be broken. 6.25mg ED of asin also

I'm going to run 300mg test e for 10 weeks. I've got nolva and clomid on hand.
What pct should i run and do i need anything on hand during my cycle in case of sides?

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>>36669767
fuarkkkkkkkkk

>>36669835
Yes, she has a good ass now. But i must admit, it wasn't good before she started to lift.

it's really hard to convince woman to work out. You really have to be straight to te point, otherwise she will remain lazy.

It's nearly impossible to have a good ass without training. Maybe when you have god-tier genetics.

fat distribution is also really important of course

most woman have really shit-tier ass genetics, especially white woman

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>>36663683
sometimes I wonder how these kind of people are in happy relationships but then I remember that I'm a steroid and drug abusing guy with no job no car nothing but an ugly sad past and a few friends and a lifting hobby

tfw all relationships i have had were prolly only just cause looks why else would anyone see someone like me

>>36670043
Damn bro.

Too early for those feels.

Just got my first tren cough fuck this is annoying, how long until this goes away

>>36670133
Oops, accidental namefagging

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>>36670043
Life is what you make it. Get off the dugs and find a job, get back into school or become an entrepreneur if you have good ideas.

She's probably not happy in that relationship having a boyfriend with calves like a 6 year old girl though.

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>>36670043
>tfw all relationships i have had were prolly only just cause looks why else would anyone see someone like me
>just cause looks
>looks

no shit. Everything is about looks

NOBODY give a fuck about you when you're ugly. Would you care about a fat and ugly girl?


Of course, you want to give her a chance and find out about her inside

Only the inside matters

remember lalalalaal

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>>36670043
Fuck the past. Lift for the future.

>>36670157
does this bitch live in a Nike store?

>>36669874
That cycle woldn't normaly require pct, keep some ai at hand, thats all.

>>36670313
>That cycle woldn't normaly require pct
yea, if you b&c

>>36669874
10 weeks is too short, 300 mg is too low, you wont gain much more than natty, you will lose some on pct and wont be gaining shit till your hormones get back to normal

tldr: blocked hpta, less gains than natty overall and wasted time

>>36663683
My female coworkers use those white sandals aswell

Tren is making my hair fall out at a record pace....how do I stop . reverse this

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>>36670220
Fuck, now I regret posting her picture.

>>36670496
You could run dutasteride or whatever it's called. It'll break your dick though.

>>36669874
You should run atleast 500mg a week
might as well throw in some orals to kickstart the cycle

Cycling info on mk-677? 5-25mg with 5 days on 3 days off?

>>36671506
Why not just run it at 25 no days off?

>>36670392
>>36670558
I am aware the cycle is pretty low, but i want to start easy and besides it is still more than 5x natty test levels. (natty test level is 30-50 a week)
So what would be a suitable pct?

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F I N A L L Y

>>36671808
>>36625671

>>36672007
The studies show people using it for over a year same dosing reg every day 25mg with no diminished returns. People are so funny at making things up.

As for where to get it, I'm like the other fraud I get mine from puresarms because it's really fast domestic and tested. United States only though sorry guise.
The email name starts with sales, let's see if you can figure it out lol

>New vendor on SST
>Cheap prices on test and tren, right as I'm about to order more test
>"Eh fuck I'll try it out they got their post approved by mods so what are the chances it'll go wrong"
>Order 5xt 2xtren
>Next day post removed for being slow to respond to mods about some minor thing

It's been a week since I ordered and it isn't here.... That's not an egregious t/a but fuck I'm sweating.

>>36672057

Can't i take some days off to make it last longer?

Anyone have any experience joining military post college as an officer through OCS?

Thinking about it for next year for air force or army

>>36672057

Im guessing you guys also prefer powder over liquid?

>>36672181
Is it a certain lab who's initials are the same as our resident Pokémon man.

>>36672347
Powder probably easier to dose accurately. (With a scale)

>>36672372
BHL

holy fuck tren, I'm on 300mg tren and 600mg test a week and I'm so fucking horny I can't think of nothing but sex even after masturbating 7 times during the day

was tired at the gym started daydreaming staring at some blonde sluts ass for quite a while setting up for bench not even minding the fact that she was kinda out of shape and not even any good looking

the pinning hurts like hell but the tren-a cycle won't last that long

>>36672392

Hoe many time can i reuse the mm droppers?

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>>36672513
>300mg tren 600mg test

I've always heard that tren>test is better. Why'd you dose it like you did?

>>36672495
Who tf is that? I don't see any lab with those initials.

>>36672372
RIP pokemaster. I wonder what he did with all the gear he still had.

ay I have an idea

I'm coming off an injury and have gained about 15 pounds of fat...currently around 20-22%
Im 5'11" 230 lbs and have been lifting natty for many many years. I usually chill around 15% but I've been sedentary and lost strength/gained fat.

I want to cycle ASAP, but I'm scared I'm too fat and I will get a lot of estro sides. Cutting down to 12-14% seems terrible as I tend to lose slowly, it would take me months. Could I kick start my return with 6-8 weeks of moderate/high dose var? I've seen reports of a lot of people dropping 5-8% bf and making okay strength gains. I know I should add test and people don't recommend oral/var only cycles, but considering my bf and goals, could I justify it?

tl;dr?

Is var only an ok option for a semi-fatty to kick start my return to BBing? Cost is not a concern

>>36672605
Like I said the lab was removed because they were slow to responding to a mod's pms about something.

Didn't fatman claim to be off the juice a while ago, even while he was still selling?

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Thanks for answering my questions fampais, here to you guys.

Fatlifts from what I heard got hit and is told he needs to flip on two others