any vegans on here? or is this board just full of poison eating

>>36638272
I eat meat but I don't eat poison m8

don't you have a street to visit with her?

I hope she washes her hands

Hey, we live downhill from you, and I guess now is as good a time as any....

Erm... could you ask your wife to stop shitting in the street? It's not really sanitary and my kids haven't played outside ever since you moved in. I don't want to offend you, but really, enough is enough.

Anyway, glad I got that off my chest. You're still coming to my cookout right? We're grilling burgers!

>>36638282
No we own a house in goa

>>36638285
she's indian not pakistani

>>36638288
we've got a toilet that aint my wife shitting

>>36638272
Yfw the body can only absorb 30g of protein per meal

>>36638505
nice bro science did you read that on the back your weight gainer you fucking cock. The body can absorb upto 200 grams of proteins per 40 minutes.

>>36638272
Thinking about the torture and suffering of animals that I eat makes my meals more enjoyable

>>36638505
Nice broacience faggot. This isn't even true. They've done studies where people computed hundred of grams of protein vs only the 30 and found more gains woth the hundred grams.

Also not all protien digests at the same rate.

>>36638566
Of course i learned thatits 30g on this board,, who to believe ;_;

>>36638579
do you think i really give a shit about animals. only faggots like morrisey care about that shit

Does your wife shit around the house?

>>36638640
in the toilet yes

Do you ever have sudden urges to take a squat and shit liquid in public while rioting at the cricket because your team lost?

>>36638272
I am a part Hindu and that shit has no protein as you are claiming to be. It probably has 12gm of protein thats all. I was on that diet since I was a child. one of the reasons how I got turned into a skeletor.

>>36638699
How do you eat 900K for breakfast and be skelly? Wtf?

>>36638272

>D E S I G N A T E D
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>>36638272
THANK YOU DESIGNATED HUNGRY PAJEET

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>>36638285
fucking

savage

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>>36638272
daily reminder that vegans are cancer

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>>36638282
>>36638579
>>36638988
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>>36639033
Don't worry guys, I got you.
If you ever see vegan threads, fill them up with shitposts until they expire.

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>>36638272
>look mom I posted it again!

https://authoritynutrition.com/top-5-reasons-why-vegan-diets-are-a-terrible-idea/

http://paleoleap.com/vegetarianism-bad-environment/

www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-08/why-vegan-diets-suck

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/09/17/angelina-jolie-says-vegan-diet-nearly-killed-her.aspx

http://thestir.cafemom.com/food_party/166532/10_mouthwatering_reasons_to_never

>>36639341
>>36639359
>>36639367
>>36639407

>popsci
>paleoleap
>authoritynutrition
>cafemom
>fucking cafemom

What next, you'll link me Dr. Mercola? No wait, that's too high level for you

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4245565/
>The Health Advantage of a Vegan Diet: Exploring the Gut Microbiota Connection
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2677007/
>In an analysis controlling for medication changes, a low-fat vegan diet appeared to improve glycemia and plasma lipids more than did conventional diabetes diet recommendations
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4446759/
>These data suggest that, in the short-term and in a small specific population, plant-based diets are not detrimental to bone in young adults.
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2453753/
>A gluten-free vegan diet in RA induces changes that are potentially atheroprotective and anti-inflammatory, including decreased LDL and oxLDL levels and raised anti-PC IgM and IgA levels.
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3918974/
>A self-selected low-carbohydrate vegan diet, containing increased protein and fat from gluten and soy products, nuts and vegetable oils, had lipid lowering advantages over a high-carbohydrate, low-fat weight loss diet, thus improving heart disease risk factors.

I can go on for ages, kid

http://www.veganzinga.com/going-vegan-wont-end-world-hunger/

>>36639423
>What next, you'll link me Dr. Mercola? No wait, that's too high level for you
OH WAIT
>>36639396
YOU FUCKING LINKED ME DR, "SCAMMER" MERCOLA TOO
ahahahah

http://thoughtcatalog.com/baihley-grandison/2014/07/7-reasons-why-all-your-vegan-friends-are-miserable-by-a-vegan/

>>36639033
Have you actually looked up what arachidonic acid does?

No?

Kay, gtfo.

http://letthemeatmeat.com/post/1141998663/how-the-ethical-argument-for-veganism-fails-and

http://www.theveganrd.com/2010/11/how-the-health-argument-fails-veganism.html

http://erikaawakening.com/vegan-philosophy-collapses-contradictions-hypocrisy/

>>36639459
>http://www.theveganrd.com/2010/11/how-the-health-argument-fails-veganism.html
Are you even reading the links you're posting? This one promotes veganism. Lol. Just not for the health reason, it promotes it for the ethical reason.

I have Chron's Disease, your 'vegan' diet would literally KILL ME, either directly in searing pain, or slowly through malnutrition. Meat is one of the few things I can eat, my DOCTORS tell me to eat it if I want to continue living. Shove your 'vegan' bullshit up your ass, fucker. When there are damned few things you can eat that don't try to kill you, you're sure as fuck not going to embrace some bullshit trendy tree-hugging hippie shit that limits what you can eat even more.

>wife
>hindu

I'm sorry friend.

>>36639468
>http://erikaawakening.com/vegan-philosophy-collapses-contradictions-hypocrisy/
Wrong.

http://matadornetwork.com/bnt/why-vegetarianism-will-not-save-the-world/
http://www.all-creatures.org/articles/ar-vegan-diet-not-for-you.html
http://vedgedout.com/2012/09/11/20reasonswhygoingvegansucks/
http://acsh.org/news/1997/04/01/why-i-am-not-a-vegetarian/
http://www.livescience.com/26278-risks-raw-vegan-diet.html
http://www.vega-licious.com/vegan-not-for-everyone-people-who-should-not-be-vegan/
http://www.ourhenhouse.org/2013/02/the-ethical-arguments-against-ethical-veganism/
http://theurbanrealist.com/ur-debate-5-reasons-go-vegan/
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=231x15586
http://www.theawl.com/2013/06/if-god-wanted-us-to-be-vegans-why-did-he-leave-holes-in-vegan-logic
http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/warning-raw-veganism-will-steal-your-health/

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>>36638272
As a vegan, what is your opinion on vegan gainz?

>>36639424
>>36639450
>>36639459
>>36639468
>>36639506


>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4008446/
>This case report seems to suggest that an ultra triathlete living on a vegan diet has a similar profile, physiologically and in performance terms, to that of triathletes of similar age living on a conventional diet.
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3138638/
>The results of this study suggest that low-GI vegan diets may have specific advantages given the high prevalence of obesity in type 2 diabetes
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864
>Position of the American Dietetic Association: vegetarian diets.
>It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases.
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24871675
>Vegetarian diets confer protection against cardiovascular diseases, cardiometabolic risk factors, some cancers and total mortality. Compared to lacto-ovo-vegetarian diets, vegan diets seem to offer additional protection for obesity, hypertension, type-2 diabetes, and cardiovascular mortality.

>>36639396
>http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/09/17/angelina-jolie-says-vegan-diet-nearly-killed-her.aspx
In this one he admits that there were some favorable findings for vegetarianism.

>>36639407
>http://thestir.cafemom.com/food_party/166532/10_mouthwatering_reasons_to_never
This is just about taste, not health.

https://authoritynutrition.com/7-evidence-based-health-reasons-to-eat-meat/
http://www.livescience.com/24875-meat-human-brain.html
http://www.rense.com/general20/meant.htm
http://mindfullybliss.com/humans-are-designed-to-eat-meat/
http://www.npr.org/2010/08/02/128849908/food-for-thought-meat-based-diet-made-us-smarter
http://letthemeatmeat.com/post/430287173/are-humans-carnivores-omnivores-or-herbivores
http://simplegoodandtasty.com/2010/04/23/why-animal-lovers-should-eat-meat
http://phys.org/news/2012-10-scientists-oldest-evidence-regular-meat.html
http://patient.info/health/paleolithic-diet
http://www.theflamingvegan.com/view-post/Vegan-Mythbusting-2-Eating-Meat-Gave-Our-Ancestors-Bigger-Brains
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2012/10/raw-food-not-enough-feed-big-brains
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/41517627785028068/

>>36639509
As a fellow vegan (not OP) Vegan Gainz is a sociopath. He's a bad role model for people wanting to go vegan. People constantly use him and Freelee/Durian to say "HEY LOOK! ALL VEGANS ARE RETARDED AND CRAZY." When in reality, that is not the case.

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>>36638272
Why the Fuck do vegans always try and recruit people. It's fucking HIGHLY annoying. Nobody cares what you shit tier "study" shows. We all know damn well one study will show one thing and ten more will show an argument against it.

Also, studies have been proven to be done once with a bias and then once done again (which they typically dont) shows completely different results.

Lastly, eat what ever the Fuck you want to eat and keep your shitty vegan opinions to yourselves.

>>36639543
Why do you keep spamming these useless low quality click-baits? Do you like to get spanked, kid?

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26561618
>Vegan diets may confer a lower risk of prostate cancer. This lower estimated risk is seen in both white and black vegan subjects
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4420687/
>Vegetarian diets are associated with an overall lower incidence of colorectal cancers. Pescovegetarians in particular have a much lower risk compared with nonvegetarians.
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26138004
>Vegetarian diets appeared to have significant benefits on weight reduction compared to non-vegetarian diets.

>>36639554
Because misery loves company.

And there are few people as miserable as vegans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_peUxE_BKcU

>>36639556
Wow! Honestly, get help you're sick in the head bud


>>36639554

>>36638272
Enjoy pissing out your ass while not pooing in the loo.

>>36639533
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>>36639423
I can call in sick to work tomorrow, start drinking coffee (with CREAM, mmmmm!) and do hard-core research all night and all day tomorrow until I drop, and post thousands of links to articles, opinions, scientific studies, and whatever else I can find that says 'veganism' is bullshit and should be disregarded -- and if you were willing you could probably do the exact same thing -- and NOTHING WOULD BE PROVEN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. You may as well be trying to argue about abortion, or gay rights, or raising the minimum wage, whether gloabl warming is a real thing and/or is human caused, or whether God exists or does not exist; NOTHING WILL BE PROVEN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. So how about you go back to 'manlet' trolling, or whether Starting Strength is a meme, or whatever else, because this is POINTLESS.

>>36639556
I am going to steal all of these links. The Pro-Vegan/vegetarian ones.

PAJEET MY SON

>>36639565
>I-I'll r-resort to n-namecalling!
>no one will n-notice, right?

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25911342
>Position of the academy of nutrition and dietetics: vegetarian diets.
>Vegetarians have lower low-density lipoprotein, better serum glucose control, and lower oxidative stress. Low intake of foods containing saturated fat and cholesterol, and high intake of vegetables, fruits, whole grains, legumes, nuts and seeds, and soy products that are rich in fiber and phytochemicals are components of a vegetarian diet that contribute to reduction of chronic disease.

>Effects of Vegetarian Diets on Blood Lipids: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis of Randomized Controlled Trials.
>This systematic review and meta-analysis provides evidence that vegetarian diets effectively lower blood concentrations of total cholesterol,[...] Such diets could be a useful nonpharmaceutical means of managing dyslipidemia, especially hypercholesterolemia.

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26355190
>In the cross-sectional comparisons, all sub-types of vegetarians had lower likelihoods of abnormalities compared with non-vegetarians on all metabolic traits

>>36639573
>NO I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
>NOTHING CAN BE PROVEN

Oh look, the ultimate fallacy. Darwinism will take care of your puny, pathetic ass
I replied ONLY with academic paper, whilst you posted click-bait ONLY (pospci, cafemom, blogs, pinterest, ancient shit from 1997). Get fucked, kiddo

>>36639597
Mad respect for posting only articles from medical journals.

I wish these threads would be actually useful instead of stupid discussions about why you should or not should eat vegan.

>>36639638
what do you expect its just a constant slew of arguments because autistic faggots just read the word "vegan" and feel threatened. Wanted to share some tips and shit with some fellow /fit/ vegans and these faggots come out of nowhere because they feel as if their lifestyle is threatened.

>>36639638
They could be useful if all the meat-eaters stopped posting "muh bacon" on them.

>>36639638
What do you need for them to be useful to you?

>>36639519

This biggest problem with all of these studies is that they compare a perfect vegetarian/vegan diet against a fat middle aged man who eats too much red meat.

The argument makes no sense, a meat eater can have the exact same diet as a vegan and add some meat on top. And i'm talking healthy meat, boiled chicken, egg whites, fish, very lightly cooked red meat.
How the fuck can you argue that the vegan diet is better? The benefits of the meat surely outweigh the downsides?

>>36638272
POO

>>36639713
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>delicious shit

>>36639560
The level of TOLD In this post is amazing. I've been a lot of places and met a lot of people, but I can say first hand that vegans are some of the most miserable cunts there are. It doesn't even matter what their motivation to be vegan is, it's like the lack of protein and meat specific micronutrients takes a toll on their frontal lobe and mood hormones over time.

>>36639733
I'm sorry that's been your experience, but I have experienced the opposite.

>>36639638

Vegan diet is an extreme diet, no different than proponents of keto.

You're either with it or you're not, there's no "sort of vegan".

So naturally you're going to get sides say it's great, or it's shit.

That's how a hardline dichotomy works.

>>36639705
>I'll try to fling shit over something I didn't even try to read
No, none of these (and many other) studies consider an "average fat middle aged man" nor a "perfect vs imperfect" scenario. I did limit myself to the studies published in the last few years (mostly in the last year). Please stop making a fool of yourself.

You know, there are a couple of arguments you could use, but you're choosing constantly the wrong ones. Rhetorical fallacies and lies won't help you in life.

>>36639638
Top Kek, the op is literally a taunt against meat eaters and you think that's going to spark a nice discussion among vegans instead of a shitstorm that does nothing but chew up a bung of people's time?

You in the wrong thread boy if that is what you want? Also, the amount of subtle samefagging that goes on in this thread is amazing, OP could make a mint in sock puppet theatre with those mad shitpost skills!

vegan here

why meat eaters gotta come into these threads and act mad, and turn shit into a debate ffs

And OP fuck you cunt why antagonize meat eaters because of their diet? Let people eat what they want
I don't give fuck what other people eat i just choose this diet for my own personal beliefs

>>36639768
There have been posts specifically bashing vegans, I've seen like 3 in the past week. It's only natural for people to get defensive.

>>36639749

I literally have no idea what you're talking about.

I don't give a flying fuck about any of this.

Vegan/vegetarian diet = healthy
Vegan diet with some meats = healthier.

There's nothing to discuss.

>>36639771
This.

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>>36639743
Anyone can put up a front and seem nice anon, but most vegans I've met are absolutely miserable at the core of their personality and bit seems to stem from their super idealised world view and lack of any real belief system.

To get to that core, I have to wade through a river of "stop doing things I don't like!" But once through that, the damage veganism takes on a person is clear to see.

>>36639807
Well, I'm certainly not miserable. No reason to be. Married, going places in life. I'm vegan for health reasons, I supplement with b12 via fortified soy milk (femanon here so soy doesn't fuck with me like it would a man) and I use Cron-O-Meter to make sure I get all the required nutrients.

>>36639792
>Vegan/vegetarian diet = healthy
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>Vegan diet with some meats...
does not compute. Just say "flexitarian" or "semi-vegetarian" or "pescetarian"...
and you're backpedaling on >>36639705 where you wrote
>How the fuck can you argue that the vegan diet is better? The benefits of the meat surely outweigh the downsides?
but it's a nice backpedaling. "How the fuck?" Read the papers. Any "benefit" from meat is largely outweighed by the downsides once you're not a teen any more.

>>36639771

> why meat eaters gotta come into these threads and act mad

> hy antagonize meat eaters because of their diet

wow that was hard

>>36639831

>Any "benefit" from meat is largely outweighed by the downsides once you're not a teen any more.

Complete horse shit. All of those cancer risks apply to redmeat cooked in fat.

Since you love studies so much, link me some studies to negatives of chicken and fish?

>>36639849
Increased risk of dying from foodborne illnesses via chicken and increased risk of consuming too much mercury from fish.

POO IN LOO
>>36638272
>>36638272
>>36638272

>>36639849
>Complete horse shit.
>All of those cancer risks apply to whatever I decide they apply to
>implying the fuckton of papers cited were all about cancer
Only a couple were about cancer.
You may start reading the papers. Or may continue shit posting. The choice is yours, but you're on your own now.

>>36639863

> foodborne illnesses via chicken

> increased risk of consuming too much mercury from fish.

are these ironic points or?

this is like saying being a vegan increases your risk of e.coli, hep A, salmonella, listeria, and staph.

>>36639863
Mercury is sometimes present in significant amounts in wild caught apex predator fish, it's almost non existant in farmed fish comparatively.
You do know that 60%+ of Japan's dietary protein comes from fish anon, don't you?

Incidentally, Japan has no significant mercury related illness rates, even among those who eat shellfish and large predator species often.

>>36639849

http://nutritionfacts.org/video/switching-from-beef-to-chicken-fish-may-not-lower-cholesterol/

>>36639863

You're kidding right?

>>36639884

Please, I've done this before. I know what the papers say. You're still wrong.

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>>36639888
You can still get sick from produce, but the risk of DYING is higher if you get sick from meat/poultry, according to the CDC.

>>36639922
>http://nutritionfacts.org/video/switching-from-beef-to-chicken-fish-may-not-lower-cholesterol/

Great scientific article mate. Spot on.

>>36639888
This. lettuce, endive, and many other greens are literally grown in animal shit. There have been some notable cases of e. coli poisoning from lettuce grown in improperly rotted compost lately.

This is why we have immune systems, meat helps to build them stronger.

>>36639950
But can that immune system help you prevent getting type two diabetes, cardiovascular disease, hypertension, Alzheimers, and cancer?
The top 15 killers in the United States can be treated and in some cases even reversed through a plant-based diet without medication.

>>36640032

well I mean obviously: cancer, alzheimers, and CVD can't be reversed by a plant based diet.

T2DM can be temporarily halted, but not stopped completely.

HTN sure.

preventing alzheimers no

preventing cancer no

preventing CVD depends

T2DM sure.

>>36639821
>I'm certainly not miserable
>femanon
Why would you? Your vegan diet just another female privilege.

>>36640058

CVD certainly can

http://dresselstyn.com/JFP_06307_Article1.pdf

>>36640098

you can't just say it'll cure CVD, as CVD is an umbrella term for multiple diseases.

CAD aka coronary artery disease I could accept as being prevented via vegan diet.

but that's one CVD.

hence the: depends.

>>36638272
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>>36639341
>reads till bottom
>2015 Update: This article was written in 2013. I have since changed my mind about vegan diets. I do think that they can be healthy when properly planned and based on whole, unprocessed foods.

It is this attention to detail which is why so many carnists still cling to their outdated nutritional dogmas.

>>36640058
>>36640032

I think he's referring to this presentation that goes down the list of the most common causes of death and provides evidence that a plant-based diet can help prevent or treat each of them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30gEiweaAVQ

It's pretty good

>>36640145

T2DM, CAD, HTN I could accept a plant base diet would help if not be very protective against these conditions.

CA & Alzheimers? I strongly doubt it.

You're straying too far from lifestyle diseases into genetic diseases, and things get muddled.

His point about: well we took no vegan/noexercise, exercise/novegan, and exercise/vegan and compared the cells responsible for apoptosis: conclusion more cells w/ vegan/exercise so therefore it prevents cancer?

Obviously that's not how it works.

>>36640032
With the way you 'murricans feed and supplement your produce animals, I'm not surprised that disease is rampant.
If there were a study of people eating hormone free, grass fed cattle their whole life alongside non processed produce and grains and still having non genetic markers for all the disease that vegans are so rabid about (High LDL, diabeetus, cardiovascular disease etc) I'd happily concede that you're right about eating beef being harmful.

Whether it'd actually stop me from eating meat or not is a completely different matter, that shit is del ish yus m8.

>>36640193

>CA & Alzheimers? I strongly doubt it.
>You're straying too far from lifestyle diseases into genetic diseases, and things get muddled.

Another video from the same guy on alzheimers

http://nutritionfacts.org/video/the-alzheimers-gene-controlling-apoe/

For the most part diet > genes.

Many videos on cancer as well.

> conclusion more cells w/ vegan/exercise so therefore it prevents cancer?

Blood that's less hospitable to cancer cells means less chance of developing and/or dying of cancer, thus cancer is prevented. Someone claiming that you could have a 0% chance of getting cancer would be bullshitting though.

>>36640232

> Blood that's less hospitable to cancer cells means less chance of developing and/or dying of cancer, thus cancer is prevented.

No, that's like saying buying the most expensive motor oil will 100% prevent your engine from ever breaking.

Alzheimer's is tied to a specific gene expression, so although diet can 'help' delay the progression, it doesn't seem to be able to prevent Alzheimer's.

Again, you're abusing words like "prevent" and "cure" to half truth-half life in an argument.

>>36640259

>No, that's like saying buying the most expensive motor oil will 100% prevent your engine from ever breaking.

I specifically said a 0% chance of getting cancer is unrealistic, but if a good motor oil can make it significantly less likely that your engine will shit itself and keeps your car working past when it otherwise wouldn't, it has prevented your car from breaking down.

>Alzheimer's is tied to a specific gene expression, so although diet can 'help' delay the progression, it doesn't seem to be able to prevent Alzheimer's.

Alzheimer's, like any disease, develops through a process. A gene can make you more susceptible, but if the process can't complete, how can the disease develop? If diet and lifestyle factors can prevent the amyloid plaques from forming and keep your brain functioning properly even if you're genetically susceptible to the disease, then diet > genes and that would be fairly called prevention.

>>36640226

>If there were a study of people eating hormone free, grass fed cattle their whole life alongside non processed produce and grains and still having non genetic markers for all the disease that vegans are so rabid about (High LDL, diabeetus, cardiovascular disease etc) I'd happily concede that you're right about eating beef being harmful.

What about grass fed beef is supposed to make it incomparably different from conventional beef? It's the same food. And it's not added hormones or corn in the animals' stomachs that raises LDL, causes insulin resistance, or has a meaningful role in cancer, it's inherent properties of the food itself. Regardless, countries like those in South America eat grass-fed beef and aren't spared any of the problems. Colon cancer for example is linked to meat through things like the blood-based iron that's very reactive with colon cells, carcinogens that form when meat is cooked, and an inflammatory sialic acid called neu5gc. Uruguay and Argentina, along with having some of the highest grass fed beef consumption in the world, also have some of the highest rates of colon cancer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12351164

>>36640301

> I specifically said a 0% chance of getting cancer is unrealistic, but if a good motor oil can make it significantly less likely that your engine will shit itself and keeps your car working past when it otherwise wouldn't, it has prevented your car from breaking down.

Or it will make absolutely no difference at all.

I know of vegan marathon runners who both got cancer in their 30s.

I know people who are in their 90s after a life of drinking/smoking and are still independent and self ambulant.

That's the joke.

This is why this all comes back to my original point:

> You're straying too far from lifestyle diseases into genetic diseases, and things get muddled.

You're playing the game of chance, of mutation, of gene expression, of luck.

Well what if we move like this, at this time, at this speed? Maybe it'll make a difference, maybe it'll make no difference at all.

You're trying to combat the very nature of the human body itself, which is to degenerate, mutate, and ultimately collapse on itself, almost seemingly at random.

You're arguing against entropy essentially, it's why I never really take people who argue lifestyle as a means to prevent any of these diseases seriously.

Is a vegan diet preventative to CA? Yes probably.

Does that mean you won't get CA? Nope, in the scheme of things on the human timeline it makes probably no real difference.

Shit like CA is bigger than diet, hence why we've been trying to cure it for hundreds of years and the best thing we have is:

1. blast it with chemo
2. blast it with radiation.
3. cut it out and hope it doesn't come back.

>>36638272
>96g protein
>vegan

HAHAHAHA

You would need to eat literally half a kilo of steak to get that much protein.

>>36639509
Lol

>>36639509
At least he doesn't censor comments like /fit/

>>36640373

>Or it will make absolutely no difference at all.
>I know of vegan marathon runners who both got cancer in their 30s.
>You're playing the game of chance, of mutation, of gene expression, of luck.

For the third time, I agree that thinking you can have a 0% chance of something with a luck factor like cancer is stupid. At the same time, if diet and lifestyle can reduce the risk that a disease will afflict you, such that you end up not developing that disease, that is by definition prevention. If you have 100,000 people that would have developed a type of cancer or alzheimer's disease, and healthy lifestyle factors gave a 90% reduction in the risk of developing those diseases, then those diseases were prevented in 90,000 people even if the other 10,000 weren't so lucky.

>Shit like CA is bigger than diet, hence why we've been trying to cure it for hundreds of years and the best thing we have is:

"Prevention is worth an ounce of cure." Look at lung cancer rates in smokers vs. non-smokers. Wouldn't you agree that not smoking can help prevent lung cancer?

I also don't think you watched the alzheimer's video I linked so go back and watch it >>36640232

>>36640463

Ha, I fucked that quote up

"A pound of prevention is worth an ounce of cure"

It's like 6 in the morning so I'm going to sleep

>>36638340
>she's indian not pakistani

You mean the same India which has designated shitting streets? The same India which has to roll out 'poo in the loo' schemes? You mean the same India where a great many of its population use their left hand to wipe their shitty arse?

Pakistan actually doesn't have nearly as severe a shitty finger problem as India does so your supposed insult/ignorance of saying she isn't Pakistani falls flat.

>>36640483

Haha, "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." Fuck it, you know what I meant.

>>36638272
>my hindu wife
>shits in a bowl and i eat it
>get on my level, autists

>>36638272
That's a lot of calories
If you eat less, will you die?

I've been vegan for 8 months now and to be completely honest I haven't seen any down side to it.

My face cleared up, my bowel movements were a LOT better, and I have seen no negative aspects in terms of my health.

There's so many academic papers and articles on line that none of this shit helps that much, maybe a tiny bit, like the biggest articles done on veganism, the EPIC Oxford study and a few others which show a lower chance of cancer for vegans.

Tbh, I prefer not eating corpses, just try the shit out for yourself and see how it works out. I consider animal products unnecessary in this day and age.

So fuck you and your papers and authoritynutrition links and ditch the fucking corpses you weak ass motherfuckers.

Vegan 2 years here. Smashed 1400cal of beans and pasta for lunch today. Bulking feels good man.

>>36639207
You don't win friends with salad

>>36639922
For starters, the omega 6:3 ratio is totally different

>>36640555

I would be extremely skelly

>>36638740

South Indian vegetarian here can confirm, posting average daily meal

breakfast~ 4 idlis/dosas

Lunch OP + rice
curry+rice
Sambhar+rice(the dish, not the deer)
curd +rice

Dinner is alsmost the same as lunch, minus OP

Was 6 feet, 55 kilos until 6 months back when I started working out, now 65 and still gaining. Started eating meat after leaving home though, really helps.

>>36639207

Indians aren't vegan though, just vegetarian. they love milk and milk products, make a ton of awesome sweets with it. Some even make an exception for eggs and seafood.

>>36640488

Okay, guys, honestly, designated shitting streets are a meme. Indian here, I've never seen one of these, people will shit wherever they want.