Does anyone here not do bench and work their chest some other

No bench, just dips.

>>36119447
Normal or weighted? Also what set/rep range?

Flies

I don't consider the bench press to be a chest exercise. It's more of an overall mass builder - There are better exercises for each of the individual involved muscle groups, but the bench press allows you to handle some pretty heavy weights and that means it's easy to make progress on it. Plus the strength gains spill over to your other exercises.

There are a million ways to build your pecs. My favourite exercise are push-ups on rings where you focus on brining your hands together and can get a much better contraction than pretty much any other pressing exercise. The pump is unbelievable so it's a great assistance exercise for pec hypertrophy.

>>36119533
So basically do cable work if you dont goto a ballerina gym with gymnastics bs?

>implying you can get a big chest anyways
This is literally the same fucking argument girls use to not lift
>No lifting for me, I don't want to get too big!
Quit being a fucking pussy. It'l be mostly down to genetics anyways on how your chest looks. There are plenty of flat chested looking fuckers benching 3-400 lbs.

there's no reason to bench unless you want to powerlift. Flat BB bench causes a lot of injuries compared to flat db, incline db, etc

that said, your argument is silly because swimmers have pec activation for most strokes

>>36119565
While standing cable chest presses do mimic the same movement as ring push-ups, the feeling IS NOT the same. I'm not a fan of cable work. They feel great, but for some reason I never actually saw any size gains from it.

If you don't have access to rings, I recommend other push-ups variations - especially diamond push-ups. It's commonly thought of as a triceps specific variation but the fact is that it also hits the pecs much harder. Dips are very very good too, but few people have the shoulder mobility to perform them safely on the longterm, sadly.
A final word on push-ups is that contrary to what a lot of people think, they are NOT too easy. Focus on making them harder instead of making them easier and you will love the results. They're incredibly safe to do as well.

Also, find a properly equipped gym.

>>36119573
Can vouch for this. I swam for 8 years (4 competitive high school) and when I started lifting more rigorously my bench progressed super easily. Hitting 275 1 rep right now where my squat is only 250 and deadlift 315.

>>36119573
yes swimmers have pec activation, but it's a totally different look to the hypertrophied pecs of bodybuilders

>>36119437
weighted dips

>>36119818

well, trust me, you won't get a massive chest unless you try really hard to

>>36119437
Due to a wrist injury I didn't do bench for 1.5 years. I did db fly, pull overs, pec dec. Just started bench pressing about 1.5 months ago. My chest developement suffered because of it.

>>36119437
Cable flyes + OHP

>>36119841
no obviously not, but it's more about having a less developed lower chest with a more developed upper chest due to focus on the OHP. this would avoid the feminine look that you see in people like scooby

>>36119693
More like you're just half repping

>>36119573
>there's no reason to bench unless you want to powerlift.

If you can't bench 2pl8 for reps you're not a man, though. It's worth benching so you can at least pass that watermark.

yep. Just incline bench and ohp.
I never enjoyed benching, so why do it?

>>36120011
Let me guess, you're not a man I'd you don't weigh 200+ pounds?
Why do you base your masculinity on the opinions of others?

>>36120122
>Why do you base your masculinity on the opinions of others?
What else would define your masculinity if not the opinion of others? Honest question.

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>>36119451
Which do you think?

>>36120135
This stung, unexpectedly.

why does every "youtube fitness personality" have a partner with fake silicone titties?

>>36120122
Why are you strawmanning?

If you can't bench 2pl8 for reps you're a pussy, regardless of your bodyweight. It's just reality, don't blame me.

>>36119437
>>36119437

Yeah I don't do any type of bench press. I really don't see the point but I'm not a bodybuilder I'm an athlete.

I do weighted dips, ohp, handstand press ups, push ups, planche press ups

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>>36120147
>I'm an athlete! I do Pushup variants like the Olympians do! I'm a true athlete!

>>36120135
What does my own masculinity have to do with anyone else? Seriously, my own ______ is all self determined.

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>>36119437
The amount of vaginas in this thread is disturbing. If you haven't worked your bench up to over 2pl8 you have no excuse to be avoiding the bench press.

>>36120147
>I don't do any type of bench press. I really don't see the point but I'm not a bodybuilder I'm an athlete.

The NFL combine requires any player in any position to be capable of benching 2pl8 for at least 10 reps.

This standard exists for a reason. If a man isn't capable of benching 2pl8 for reps, he's not a strong athlete and will be easily dominated by other men.

If a man isn't capable of benching 2pl8 at all, he's not a man, he's a boy.

Do your goddamn bench press, faggots.

>>36120167

I get paid for my sport and have sponsors. (not crossfit)

Also although I've never bench pressed my bench was tested at bodypower and was 120kg for 2 reps

>>36119437
The only people who don't like to bench are people with shit benches. Girls live pecs, don't neglect them, but if you really insist on not doing bench, then at least do dips.

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>>36120142
Because fitness chicks have low bf% and that kills natty titties. Better to have impants than pecs.

>>36120169
My point is this... If you're just sitting there by yourself thinking to yourself "damn I'm masculine" but everybody else disagrees, then you're just delusional.

No offense to you.

>try bench press one day
>OH MY GOD MY CHEST IS TOO BIG NOW WHATEVER WILL I DO

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>>36120175
>lying on the internet

I didn't know getting Reddit Gold counted as getting paid for your """""""sport"""""".

>>36120170
>>36120170

How much is two plate?

>>36120192
None taken, it's not like I sit in a chair all day thinking about my masculinity, I just don't particularly care if other people think I'm masculine/feminine/in between

>>36120199
That's two 20 kgs/45 lbs weights on each side of the bar, totalling in 100 kg/200something lbs

>>36120199
1 more plate than 1 plate

>>36120135
I'm not going to do bench press because "otherwise you're not a man" just like I won't do X thing because otherwise I'm not Y
Go fuck a fatty since "only REAL MEN can handle all these curves :P"

>>36120170
Okay.

>>36120218
>I'm not going to do bench press because "otherwise you're not a man"

Then you're never going to be a real man. Some kid who can bench 2pl8 would literally dominate you in a fight.

Or think about it this way, a moderately heavy man could literally sit on your back and you wouldn't be able to get up. Because you're weak.

Your posts reek of hyperbole and insecurity. Just stop being a faggot and bring your strength up to par, it's not that difficult.

>>36120231
>he actually thinks strength is more important than fighting skill

>>36120190
Love the freckles on her chest

>>36120231

Ummm if you are ever in a situation where a moderately heavy man is sitting on you you're not pressing my off you. He's not a barbell. His weight is distrubted unevenly.

Also if you've done any bjj you learn very quickly 10-20-30-40lbs guys heavier than you doesn't mean shit when it comes to technique.

Very easy to use their weight against them and sweep to escape or get top position.

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>>36120231
>Some kid who can bench 2pl8 would literally dominate you in a fight.
>Your posts reek of hyperbole and insecurity.
Not that dude, but dude, you're pathetic.

>>36119934
nah it's a full rep bro, chest touch to full lockout, with butt on the bench

>>36120245
>>36120261
>>36120265
Why are weakfags so easy to trigger?

If you don't want to bench a respectable amount of weight, stay weak. It's your loss.

>with my superior speed and fighting technique I am SURE TO WIN
Okay kiddo.

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>>36120287
>with my superior bench i am SURE TO WIN against the guy who has been boxing against other trained boxers for years

If you can't bench at least 2pl8 you're legitimately weak. I wouldn't trust you to carry more than one bag of groceries at once, and I wouldn't hire you for any position that required even moderately heavy lifting.

If you can't bench respectable weight your wrists are most likely thin and you're probably perceived as a betamax by everyone around you. That's why you come up with excuses and avoid the bench instead of just fixing the issue and building your bench.

>>36120231
Okay

The standard for strength on /fit/ has always been a two plate bench. Sorry that this topic upsets you so much newfags. Get stronger.

>>36120308
why would not being able to bench prevent you from carrying groceries? you ever heard of a farmers walk faggot?

If you can't bench 2pl8 you're literally a curlbro and should kill yourself. DYEL?

>>36120320
If you can't bench more than baby weight a person who can will destroy you in the farmers walk.

All this delusion... literally just stop being a vagina and build your bench to a respectable level. You're not going to win an internet argument and suddenly be a respectable male without having to get your bench up.

>>36120231
I'm not sure you understand what insecurity. Doing something you don't want to in order to impress people is a tad insecure.

>>36120320
>B-BUT I CAN WIN FIGHTS WITH SUPERIOR BOXING TECHNIQUE
>B-BUT I CAN CARRY UP TO 3 BAGS OF GROCERIES FOR MY MOM AT ONCE
So many excuses. Just forget it. It's like you're scared of being even remotely strong.

>>36120352
I'm certain you've never been in a fight in your life.

>>36120366
Seriously, if you want to be weak, be weak. You can stop arguing now.

You're like a fat girl making excuses for herself. Just love yourself and stay inferior. Getting upset at people on the internet isn't going to help you.

>>36120334
This. Nearly every girl I match with on the tinder wants to know how much I can bench press. I'd show you my tits but I'm at work.

>>36120376
Cool. Just remember that even if I never lift another weight in my life I'd still be able to KO your fat bench pressing ass before you could attempt to somehow push me to death.

Fat fucking dog fuck you

>>36120407
>Fat fucking dog fuck you
lmfao

Being weak sure makes you angry doesn't it?

>>36120407
>caring about fighting ability in the age of modern firearms

>>36120414
Fuck you piece of shit If i ever see your fat lmao2plate benching ass im gonna fuck your undeveloped ass till you died

Im literally fucking shaking here, i just cant understand how you faggots care about the bench so much. Fuck.

>>36120417
Seriously. I was just giving a basic example of why being strong is important but there's always some twinklet who thinks he can take down men who are stronger than him because he's an MMA star or something.

Those kind of people always miss the point: they are weak as fuck and if they had work ethic and cared about their own strength even a little they could easily fix it.

>>36120434
I bet you post conor mcgregor threads you fat dog

>>36120334
I can't build my bench. Anon says I have to kill myself because I can't bench [insert arbitrary weight higher than my max but lower than his].
Sorry.

>>36120417
>Knowing literally nothing about violence or combatives.

Carry, by all means. I do. But to think you'll ALWAYS have access to it or even enough notice to draw tells me that you're just talking out of your ass.

Read some Rory Miller or something.

>>36120432
Maybe you should avoid threads about bench pressing if it upsets you this much? Not everyone is going to agree with the idea that bench press is meaningless.

>>36120448
Fuck you faggot i created the fucking thread, its my thread now get out just stop replying

>>36120376
You're like a powerlifter pretending his obesity doesn't matter because he can lift a bit heavier than someone else. >>36120434
I could've sworn you tried to say high bench = better in a fight than someone who trains for fighting.
It's almost like you're backtracking or something.

>>36120447
for what it's worth I also bench 2.5pl8

pretty shit at fighting though

>>36120451
Assuming you really are OP, if you want to do OHP but you can't bench 2pl8 your OHP is going to be weak as fuck. Your tricep, chest and shoulder strength aren't respectable without a 2p8 bench.

One of the best ways to increase OHP is by having a strong bench. If you can't bench 2pl8, you don't have a strong bench.

So stop avoiding the bench, you little girl.

>>36120459
You weakfags are literally seething with anger at being reminded that you're weak.

Benching 2pl8 is not "power lifting" it's literally beginner level strength and is expected of anyone who lifts for any reason.

If you're not willing to accept /fit/ standards than don't post on /fit/. Crybaby faggots lmao.

>>36120470
LEAVE NOW

>>36120476
>seething with anger
I'm more amused than anything.

>>36120479
Why don't you try and push me out? ;)

PAHAHAHAHAHA

>>36120459
>better in a fight than someone who trains for fighting
Nobody said that, retard. You're all hyped up with your TAPOUT tshirt on and trying to turn it into an MMA argument like most weakfags.

>yeah I'm weak but I'M A TRAINED FIGHTER
Topkek.

>>36120199
215. 180 (4x45lb plates) and a 35lb bar.

>>36120543
You're a little lady.

>>36120543
225 lbs. But if someone can't do 225 it's likely they can't do 215 either, kind of a moot point.

>>36120261
If fighting had nothing to do with weight, then why is it every fighting sport has weight classes?

Oh yeah.

>>36120535
So help me out, Anon. How to into big binch?
And don't just say "eat more, bench more". Be specific

>>36120442
>I bet you post conor mcgregor threads you fat dog
You're clearly a manlet and are very upset. Are you one of those manlets screeching about how the Mountain wouldn't have beat him in a real fight? Seems like it.

>>36120443
>getting mad that people on a fitness forum take weight lifting seriously

>>36120563
I went through the effort of studying how to grow my bench, you should too. It's a simple matter of increasing your tricep strength, learning proper form and systematically hitting new PRs in the gym at least once a week. Give adequate rest between bench days.

>>36120551
Oh, is the bar 45? I never really cared enough to know. I can't bench 225 tho because I'm a skinnyfat with nogains but I'm trying. I'm fine admitting I'm weak though.

>>36119533
this

it's the jack-of-all-trades for your pushing muscles, but there are way better ways to target chest alone

still, bench will always be a staple in my workouts

>>36120535
>yeah I'm weak but I'M A TRAINED FIGHTER

https://www.instagram.com/p/BByiQWGmXSj/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjFp1R5klo4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVov2TEYJ8k
Training trumps brute strength 9 times out of 10 dude. /fit/ always gets autistic as fuck about this, but it's true.

>>36120562
>I can't into old MMA with no weight classes where 150lb BJJ guys dominated the sport until people got wise and started training in BJJ as well.

I never liked the BB bench
>only do incline DB and cable flyes
>chest looks great

decide to focus on the BB bench
>never feel my chest
>make great strength gains
>after 6 months chest looks smaller

thanks BB bech, back to incline DB it is

The only shitty thing is my gym only goes up to 40kg DB's

>>36120586
I asked for specifics, not
>get stronger
>get better form
>set PR's somehow
"Wait more days between sessions" is useful, but since you didn't mention anything about volume, it's null.

>>36120641
>Training trumps brute strength 9 times out of 10 dude.
That doesn't excuse these DYEL curlbro faggots from doing bench press though. There is no excuse for being weak. Autism is being weak and telling strangers on the internet
>I could still beat you in a fight because my uncle taught me to box once!

>>36120682
>decide to focus on the BB bench
And completely stop doing DB and flyes? You cucked yourself. It's not the benches fault. This either/or mentality is also autism.

I honestly hardly see anyone at my uni gym hit 2 plates for reps. It's sad that im hitting 195 at 5x5 and im usually the "strongest" person on bench

>>36120722
how else can you compare both?

thanks for giving me that heads up that I am an cucked autist. I knew this forum would help me in life one day

>>36120706
c'mon, m8. I thought you wanted autists to get gudder?

>>36119437
>I wanna do an exercise that hits primarily the front deltoids to get the flat chest swimmer look
are you fucking retarded or something

>>36120011
Guess you just hit 2pl8 with spot shrugs huh?

>>36120378
Because girls know anything

>>36119437

Faggots ITT don't realise the benefits of training closed kinetic chains over open kinetic chains and the transferability of strength

stopped benching when i hit 2pl8

for chest now i do dips, hanging plank flyes in gymnastic rings, cable flyes and maybe on rare occasions incline bench

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>>36121217

Why I don't do bench but test it every one or twice a year.

Mfw probably done total of 50 reps total bench press and bench double bodyweight

>>36120586
>tfw anon won't help me become a man

>>36119437
OHP is not a particularly effective chest exercise. Do flies, weighted dips, weighted push-ups, depending on the reason why you don't do bench press.

incline bench>flat bench

>>36121237
>when you weigh 130lbs
Grats m8

dips are enough for chest size

everyone asks me what I do for chest and they get suprised when I say; ''just dips''. Its a very underrated exercise

>>36120706
i don't think he actually benches 2pl8, he's probably trolling given the purposely vague answer

>>36119437
Why don't you swim then?

>>36121409
Figures. You have to be a special kind of retard to write what he did - but even retard strength has its limits.

this thread is proof /fit/ is a autistic sperg ground.. the majority of you are complete losers. the guy sperging out about you are not a man if you cant bench press 2pl8 is a fat guy. remember that.

>>36119884

In a majority of people their pecs will look the same regardless of if they spend their time trying to grow the sternal or clavicular heads.

>>36120190
>That pic
I smell roids