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>>35669361

honestly just watch the video right before you do them, they're super simple

I use regular plates, 10s fyi

not sleeping on it, lu raises, and switching from 3x5 to 5/3/1 made my shoulder feel a lot better

btw meps only ever does the normal opioid/benzo/weed/etc tests

>>35669647

this, although I mentioned I might try doing a1/b2/c1/x/a2/b1/c2/x to separate heavy deads from heavy squats so I can put 100% into both

>>35669650

like 1 in 6-8 from what I saw and the time they spent around us deployed

>>35669696

exactly my line of thinking, upper back and arms but no chest because I categorically refuse to shave off my chest hair

In 4 yolo test Enanthate raping jailb7 in the courtroom
>yeah lick dem niggas nuts

In 4 pillow gf that can't send me to jail

>>35669887
meh.
Whatsapp doesnt approve of me taking her to court :/

>>35669889
>pillow gf
Sounds ez compared to irl crazies

>>35669928
Wear running shoes :^)

Thinking about it I'm kinda fucking turned off. This girl still loves her ex? That's fucking grimy. I was over my ex in 3 days after 3 years of dating.

I could be an asshole though.

>>35669950
W-why?

>>35669928
Why do you want to take someone to court? Wat did they do?

>>35669994
Is that a duh or a no?

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SET FOR LIFE

>>35669889
depending on how lewd and your pillw gfs age it could lol

>>35669988
Fuck knows.
Its either senpai related or baby daddy related if I have to guess

>>35670018
Lol no, not even.
Thank god
Cant make a preg gril preg anywayz

>>35670014
so tsundere

>>35670056
It's because it's easier to be a dick to people than to open up and be a real person.

>>35669759
when I brosplit I usually just hit everything in 5 or six days. Some weeks I'll do combined arms, others I'll have a separate bis and tris workout.
Back when I did madcow, I did the typical 3 days madcow split with 3-4 accessories on the main stressor for that workout i.e. chest accessories plus some back on bench/row day, trap and delt work on OHP/Deads day, and Legs on Wednesday since it's the lighter squat day for the week.
Then I'd do other accessories on shit I needed extra work on Tuesday/Thursday and occasionally Saturday.

Fucking loved that split and saw excellent results.
>>35669783
>inb4 she sues yolo for rape without him knowing in advance

>>35669884
ohrly? I read somewhere they test the majority of applicants for one specific drug, 1/100 or something on a7 panel, and 1/1000 for the full 10. I wanna say it was an official Navy site.

>>35670017
fbi pls go

>>35670118
Yo Chem, what happened to Men?

>>35670118
doxxing fatlifts made you happy?

>>35670173
Shit....sounds a bit scary. Hope the little
Niggas ok

>>35670197
face it. filling fetuses full of meth and turning poor fatlifts into a stimmed up crackfiend with a record are your proudest achievements

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>>35669884
Always trim body w/ 1 guard.

Such a perfect length for everything.

>>35670097
Fuck you

:(

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Found out that the record for bench in the new gym is 130Kg
130.....
What'd I just bench the other day out of interest as to what I could max? 105?
This shit is gonna be easy lel

>>35670191
slightly interested, but never heard of the lab

>>35670232
Oh that's cool, bless him. Probably Tren fucking the local chicas then

>>35670119
Pepper pls
Hast even gotton the yoloD yet

>>35670281
the judge doesn't know this tho breh

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>>35670119

my 3-day routine is pretty much the first block, just slightly more volume on the accessories

and all the drug shit is just my own personal experience, I got 9-paneled before going to meps and I'm assuming the same there

but honestly you should be completely off everything before you ship out anyway, or is this just the initial shit to get you depped in

>>35670191

wtf, is that a vacuum bag?

>>35670223

I trim pits and pubes to a 1 with a little edge dressing around the tower of power and completely clean on the coinpurse

prob going to get my back lasered at some point down the road, chem can attest to the amount of body hair I've got going on

>>35670226

gonna see if I can hit 6-7@315 then 4pl8 4x6 chest dips

/dickwave

>>35670305
Meh.
Fuckit.
Cant spell yolodrol without y o l o

>>35669848
Advice on how to start first cycle, also I need a supplier of tren in England.

>>35670338
>prob going to get my back lasered at some point down the road, chem can attest to the amount of body hair I've got going on
I probably will too. It's not bad now just a few stray hairs on my traps and the back of my neck easy to hit with a razor. But it would be nice to not have to do it anymore.

I know someone who got their neck done right up to their jaw so they never have to shave again. That would be nice AF but probably pricey.

Fun fact: some places offer lifetime warranty on hair removal so should it regrow (say because of blasting) you can go back and have it touched up free of charge.

>>35670417
Read up on reddit steroids wiki
Reddit steroid source talk is the place to find/talk about sources

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>>35670439
Is Tren even a recommend first roid? Also what's a good starting dosage per week?

>>35670338
I actually ship out to boot in May.
I'm not doing anything other than cruising right now, and don't want to waste money on the kind of blast I have planned if I'm gonna lose all my gains at boot. Trying to see how this new job I got goes because if I have a solid paycheck, I don't want to leave for shit pay with the military as much. As much as I've always wanted to join up, money is a huge part of life, and it really bums me out I won't be able to juice my first two years because of the fucking lengthy ass Nuke school.

>>35670358
just make sure that you give her the yolodrol if you end up getting sentenced to jail time. It's already statutory rape so I mean it's not like it can't get any worse.
>taking yolodrol for baby gains

>>35670391
I just don't know if I trust some anon with $60 lol

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>>35669954
>I was over my ex in 3 days after 3 years of dating.
It sounds like you did the dumping. And before dumping her, there was a lot of time for thinking + emotional detachment.

The girl you're talking about is the dumpee. They didn't have the time to detach, so it takes longer obviously.

>>35670417
dbol + long ester test for 12-16 weeks @500mg/wk

Don't hit up tren on your first go. Save that for after two or three cycles or blasts.

>>35670487
Meh
We'll see.
Not really sure wot do or wot feel.

>>35670503
Kinda sounds like me and my lady. I've been talking about leaving her for weeks.
Get really fucking angry with her over small shit easily now.
Already talking to other girls.
Always pissed off at her because she has a genuinely bitchy attitude towards me for literally no reason.

>>35670538
hmu
it's my trip at countermail dot com

>>35670417
500 mg test e every week for 12 weeks
60 mg dbol every day for the first 6 weeks

>>35670441

mine's like bottom of my shoulderblades to almost the neckline and across to the backs of both shoulders but not super dense, still would be nice to not need to have someone shave it or get it waxed

>>35670487

oh jesus fucking christ you're a nuke

ABORT ABORT ABORT

god damn dude the only way it'd be worth it is like something ct preferrably ctn so you can make six figures once you get out with that sweet experience + clearance

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I have no clue where to get gear.
How'd u guys go about it.
>Inb4 fbi

>>35670578
is the nuclear power program really that fucking bad?
I figured it was good because of all the credits you get towards college + sign on bonus every contract + bonus nuke pay and automatic e4 after A school plus clearance and shit.

What's ct/ctn?

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>>35670578
Highly recommend it

>inb4 shill claim

>>35670594
>>35670445 last line

>>35670588
that's fl, right? I was talking to him the other day. Some fucking amazing prices on gear. Wasn't sure the quality tho

>>35670564
Expect a dick shot soon breh, just waking it up

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>>35670619
Whoops.
Thanks man :)

>>35670608

just think about why, despite reduced military funding and a still shaky economy they're offering those kinds of bonuses for nukes

it's because the fucking school is godawful and the job is fucking miserable shit that will have you suicidal in months of hitting your first ship

ctn : cryptologic technician, network

go read up about that shit, if you can make nuke you can make ctn or at least another ct field, specifically research the civilian parallels because you do your 4 or 6 and get out of those fields then go work for the nsa or one of their contractors or pretty much any corporation and make out like a fucking bandit

>>35670663
lmao no penis pls cheeky u cunt

>>35670672
well fuck. I've been in dep since June of last summer. Let me do some reading, and I'll have to see if switching is even an option for me at this point.

I've honestly been really tempted to just cut it and go apply with the army 'cause dat der ranger school, but all my army buddies advised against it lol.

Hey fraudsters, I think I fucked up.

I just started a beginner cycle of 400mg test per week but after the second pin I am already feeling sore near my left nip.

It's possible that I messed up and injected subq, could that cause an estrogen spike? Or am I just extremely susceptible to est?

I'm not as lean as I should be, around 14% probably, can 4% really make that much of a difference?

I'm panicking a bit now and I just took 500mg of dnp. Should I drop down to 200mg per week (+30mg var ed) and go on a starvation diet + dnp for the next fortnight?

Pls help.

>>35670674
I'm sorry breh, it's better than Chem's breadstick though

>>35670709
i think you should manage your estro levels with some AI and finish your cycle.
it might just be your brain playing tricks on you that makes your nip feel sore.
dont go crazy and OD on the AI just because your nip is a bit sore!

>>35670709
Why 400 mg? You taking anything else? Any other sides?
You should be fine on DNP and test

>>35670700

until you swear in and put your thumbprint on that shit to e-sign it, there's always options

I means meps and your recruiters can get as pissy and flap their hands around all they want but they can't actually do shit to you

also if you do some dumb shit like get a fucking option 40 contract that doesn't have 35q in front of it I will seriously find you and slap you until MY fucking ears start ringing

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>>35670509
How exactly do I go about measuring my dosage of dianabol and test per week, also won't I burn out if I start mixing?

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>>35670619
>>35670445

Nice try trollfags.

>>35670746
The person you buy from will tell you the strength of everything. For example 10 ml test e @250 mg/ml or each dbol pill is 20 mg
So you can trust they are telling the truth or get it tested yourself and find out

No dbol on your first test cycle is fine

>>35670763
Why is that troll? Are you implying those are not great places to go for information?

>>35670709
holy fuck dude
If it's test e or cyp then it hasn't even had time to kick in.
Calm the fuck down before you kill yourself.

It's most likely your imagination, but go ahead and start running your AI low dose eod or e3d and see if it clears up, gets worse, or stays the same.

You shouldn't even get a hint of crazy estro levels until around 3-4 weeks desu.

>>35670711
breh i don't want any breadsticks. pls no

>>35670737
Okay, I wasn't sure if I could be in DEP for over a year if my boot were to get pushed back again because of a job change.
Lel these cryptologic jobs are really high up on your list of top tier jobs, eh?

>>35670746
No, this is a very common beginner cycle.
Dbol is usually in capsule or tab form. I recommend 40mg your first week and then 3 @ 60mg, 4 weeks off, and then 9-12 hit another 4 weeks @60mg.
Or if you do 16 weeks, do the dbol for 6 weeks, take 4 weeks off, and then 6 weeks of dbol.

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>>35670627
>Wasn't sure the quality tho
Don't get no better.

>>35670848
fl pls

lol nah, I figured he was g2g. I'm just sketchy about trying new sources. I wanna hit up him and JJ next tho

>>35670725
>>35670734
>>35670792
Thanks guys, I had sore nips during puberty so I am pretty terrified of gyno and wouldn't be surprised to find I'm susceptible.

I'm on the following
400mg test e per week
30mg anavar per day
12.5mg aromasin every other day (been upping it over the weekend though)
10mg nolvadex per day (starting just now)

In my panic I've taken 50mg of aromasin today. If the gyno is my mind playing tricks on me I should start experiencing low estrogen sides tomorrow?

>>35670627
gb2reddit

>>35670848
>comes with free delmonterry burrito wrappers

>>35670904
JJ's is good. I heard he's even putting fancified labels on his shit now.

>>35670939
50MG? bruh... that seems a little high lol.

>>35670946
i actually hate reddit desu. I've only been there a few times to look at r/theredpill , sst. and dnm

>>35670947
Shiiiit, big leagues now. Thanks for the feedback.

lol
o
l

JM & MT destroying people's self esteem like never before

>>35670993
In that thread with a pic of JM in the OP or in PLG or somewhere else??

>>35670986
Yes, now I'm worried either way. And the dehydration sounds bad with dnp too.

>>35671041
Okay, how long have you been on DNP?

>>35671006
jm one

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What where people's reactions like when you did your first cycle?

I'm still natty and put on a decent amount of size in the past couple of years and i already get unwanted attention from colleagues about my muscles every time i wear a tshirt

planning on doing my first cycle soon

Came off test/tren blast on 11th December
Been cruising 250 test E/ week ever since

Fuck I hate this. Going from tren blast to test cruise is like going from test to natty again.
How long before I can blast tren again? Think I'm gonna start again in February, 2 months off is enough right?

>>35671126
Skinny fat > escaping dyel was more attention for me than roids progress
It must look like a lot more progress or something

>>35671126
People immediately suspected me of 'roids because I blew up like a fucking blimp. 165-195lbs between January and March 2014.

Looked clean af. After I fucked up my ride, it put out for awhile, and I didn't PCT or anything so I lost most everything. Then when I finally started again, the woman I was seeing was a gains goblin and always wanted me to skip and see her, so my lifting schedule was inconsistent af up until very recently. I'm finally starting to show some results again, and I'm just cruising atm. When I finally get that tren blast going again, I'm gonna be fucking excited as hell.

>>35671074
Just took two tonight.

>>35671184
That's roughly my goal for my first cycle

would like to hit ~195ish at the peak

>>35671179
To add to this only people who really mentioned anything are people I don't see often. People I saw frequently haven't really said much at all

>>35671200
bruh you might be killt

Like srs.
I don't think you're ever supposed to start with 2 caps day one, unless you're a long time DNP veteran
I always start with 1 for 4 days cause dangerous af
And anytime I take more than 1 cap, I always split the dosages cause that shit hits hard.

Stay cool, drink a fuckton of water/gatorade, and don't die anon.
Godspeed.

side note
>pls be troll

>>35671206
Yeah, it was pretty fucking awesome lol. Everyone could see the difference and people were like wtf.
The fucking icing on the cake was seeing this chick I hella crushed on in middle school. She fucked me over to go date some faggot and ended up with him for 5 years and shit, living in florida after graduation.
This was the first time I'd seen her in probably 2 or 3 years.
We were going to a party and shit, and her new bf was on the couch and they were talking but she was standing up facing me.
>take off jacket
>immediately notice her head jerk my direction
>eyes widen
>she stops speaking mid-sentence and says holy shit
>bf goes "what is it?"
>"n-nothing babe"

tfw
felt good bruh cause that bitch was fine as hell

>>35671291
You're fucking with home right?
Of course you are
Nobody is that afraid of a little dnp

>>35671338
I mean he is a little scared
I really don't start @ two caps tho just 'cause I really don't feel like pushing my luck lol

>>35671291
Not a troll, I took some in November for a couple of weeks. I took a double dose on day 5 or so and found it to be very unpleasant but that was it. I have no dnp in my blood right now so the effect should not be as bad, I will max out at 500mg and rapidly fall away over the next few days to a negligible level as I won't replenish it. I am only worried about the interaction of low est with dnp, however I can feel my nip even now so the gyno is not necessarily a figment of my imagination.

Opinions / experiences needed. Second blast, deca, npp, eq or tren? Wanna get huge. Because of availability i'm leaning towards 600 test 400 deca for 16 weeks.

Asking again. How long after pct should you wait until starting a cut with dnp?

>>35671417
You can literally start using the dnp whenever you want.
Like I suggested earlier though, I suggest using a cruise dose of test for muscle maintenance. It's your body tho. Do waht you want.

>>35671372
You should be fine bruh. Just do what you have to on DNP and make sure you take that AI. 12.5 mg asin eod or e3d

>>35671417
They are not related at all so I don't see why you can't even use it while on pct
You should use DNP for the weeks leading up to the end of your cycle to help preserve even more muscle

>>35671126
Not much. I'm 6'4 so it takes a lot to look big. Went from 225 to 260 and people said I looked a little fuller. Ex never made comments because she's a cunt.

I get more comments now at a lean 215-220 than I did heavier. People think I weigh 275 or so, but I'm super top heavy,

210 @ 5'11 right now. 12-15% bodyfat and like 3 or so months into this cycle

I think I wanna cut when I hit 225 or something like that.

I want to do this using minimal $$ tho cause broke college student.

What do you guys suggest? And is PCT going to affect my cut? (Should I wait a bit after PCT to cut?)

Should I just drop to 250mg/wk and cut then and not PCT?

I'm unsure

>>35671693
I would drop to 250 and cut then either pct or blast again
I wouldn't cut during pct just because why make yourself miserable during a miserable time

>>35671693
bro... why are you not BnCing.
>tfw you 'mire someone only to find out your 'mires were misplaced

I recommend running at least a cruise dose on any cut for maintaining muscle. Then when you're down to a worthy level of shred, blast another bulk.

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I'll post progress pics and my friends will comment saying I look like an evangelion. Cool.

>>35671724
This seems like a good idea. Will probably cut in a few weeks and then get back on a bulk in time for tryouts at a 4 year university. I guess PCT in the summer ish. Gonna be on cycle for like 9mo this way though

>>35671732
If I make tryouts then I'll get on a team that does cheer competitions and test for drugs and shit and I can't afford to get kicked off and lose my scholarship

>>35671383
Bump. Does adding nandrolone help significantly?

>>35671826
ahhh shit that WOULD blow.
I can understand that then

>>35671832
Nandrolone is the best drug

>>35671826
That would be a problem. When would you get tested? Would you have time to get it all out of your system before you would get tested?

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>>35671361
Dose though and whether it's crystal or powder
Eg 2 caps for me is actually 400mg of powder
So fuck all

>>35671881
yeah, dino only sells crystal now so that's what I'm on atm. Day 13 atm, day 8 of 500mg. Feel like fucking death constantly and can't stop sweating. Tf is sleep anymore. All the goddamn puddles of sweat wake me up.

Test

>>35671872
pretty sure heroin has something to say about that

>>35671909
base

>>35671872
You like deca or npp more?

>>35671918
Stop triggering me anon

>>35671881
>400mg of powder
>So fuck all

Honestly 400mg is like the borderline for me. Any more and I actually have to deal with sides other than "man its kinda hot after I drink this coffee".

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>>35671907
This is why I would prefer something like 200-250 for 2 weeks every other month

Lower sides
Spread it out more
Sure you aren't going to get shredded in 2 weeks like with higher doses, but you also won't want to die the whole time

>>35671924
With

>>35671932
did you suck dick for heroin?

>>35671930
Npp but I've got 300mg of deca in me for no real reason

>>35671943
yeah, I'm just gonna finish out 21 days at this dose and hopefully look good when I shed the water bloat.

>>35671943
trenbolone

>>35671961
that sounds kinky

>>35671853
Might switch to prop. Might come off completely. Not sure.

>>35671877
See above reply. I think I'd know a couple days in advance when the tests are (that's what it's like at my school now except cheerleaders don't get tested anymore). Prop would be out of my system in under a week I'd imagine. I have no idea right now when the testing is though.

Where do frauds find girls to smash

>>35671985
Everywhere. I hit up tinder, work, cons I go to, my ex'a friends, my friends.

>>35671985
sex addict anonymous

>>35671979
yeah, makes sense. If my education and future were resting on to roid or not to roid, I think I'd be really careful not to fuck it up.

>>35671985
tinder has lots of wonderful little sluts on it for the shredded /fraud/izen

>>35671985
JM finds back alley nigresses face down in a gutter and wanks on their backs

>>35672032
>nigresses

That's not how you spell 3rd world black shemale hookers

i live having 5-6 sluts in the back burner

Fuck. Steroids are a blessing

>>35672061
Couldn't pull that off without roids?

>>35672016
I'm a master of almost fucking things up

Prop would be my best bet in roiding without getting caught right? I'd stick around 500/wk.

What do Olympic and other top level athletes use?

How do you guys feel when off cycle?

>>35672089
Idk you're asking stupid questions.

Butch just dropped shit off and didn't even knock on the door. Just texted saying "shits at the door". Walked out and saw her pull away lmao

No fucking balls. When she texts back in a week and wants to fuck I'll do it sporadically. In a month when she wants to give it a shot I'll say give what a shot u have a gf.

>>35672105
Don't they just cycle in the off season and blood boost before comps? That or they use short esters and do what you plan

>a article was done on how many shows and movies my country has on Netflix vs the USA
>we have less than a third but pay the same price

Netflix is a scam

>>35672105
I'd say prop and if you ever run tren, ace. Just to play it safe.
Most pros cycle in the off-season and stay relatively hormone free during the regular season. It depends on how frequently they test cheerleaders in NCAA level competitions I guess.

Just keep in mind you're looking at around a week to two weeks with both compounds.

>>35672128
Put her in her place brah. I hate bitches that pull shit like that.
If she hits you up in a week, tell her you'll fuck and set it for the next day or two.
Then don't talk to her for a week.
Slap her with some verbal abuse when you finally respond to her pleading messages.
>profit

>>35672221
It'll probably go down like that. She deleted me off fb lmao

It's not my fault your ex is fucking mine lmao

>>35672128
>stupid

Because you never could without roids. Insecure much

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>mfw I'm an absolute madman and going to do a dnp cut in may
live in a pretty cold country so it will probably only be around 15-20 celsius but still

>>35672286
Probably! Thanks for acknowledging a character flaw literally everyone has.

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>>35672239
I've obviously missed part of the story
Last I saw you admitted you had the feels and wanted to try date fwb

>>35672296
>cold
>15°C
What tropical island do you live on?

>>35672239
holy jesus. This bitch went batshit crazy over a girl you aren't even fucking. Like I'm failing to see how any of this is your fault
>bimbo, i can't do this. I have feelings for john still, and you live with your ex.
>oh, don't worry babe. John is fucking my ex so there's nothing going on at my place.
>wait what
>i said john and my ex are fucking. you didn't know?
>fuck you bimbo. i don't ever want to see you again
>deletes and blocks from social media because it's bimbos fault their exes are fucking
>leaves belongings on doorstep so she doesn't have to see bimbo and be tempted to revenge fuck him over the whole mess
>keeps number just in-case she wants to fuck him in a week when her anger and fear of feelings for bimbo subside

literally women in a nutshell. That's probably her thought process.

>>35672324
Sweden 15-20°C is pretty cold for being may tBh if you compare to florida and shit

>>35672016

I'm not shredded tho brah

>>35672356
still lots of sluts
Just don't post shirtless pictures unless you're zyzzmode

are you at least out of dyel

>>35672321
Yeah she said okay last night and then changed her mind earlier.

My ex gf is fucking my fuckbuddy's ex bf. My fuckbuddy did not know this. My fuckbuddy seems to still have feelings for her ex. She also said she couldn't handle seeing me while I still room with my ex (we're poor). My reply was "my ex is fucking yours, don't worry about it" right after she'd admitted to feeling bitter about her breakup.

I don't feel super bad. Mostly upset I dint get to fuck hot Asian pussy.

Where are pics of bimbo

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>>35672338
Yea I guess here in may it isn't too cold either

>>35672368

Idk bra

I weigh 150 and squat max 275

Bf probably 13%, no abs

So no

>>35672327
I mean in a nutshell.

Probably it stung hearing that from a guy you're starting to like about a guy you used to/ still love? Idk like I said earlier I was over that shit in days recently.

I really can't be too bothered by it. She's showing true colors.

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>>35672327
>>35672369
What a mess of a human being
Pretty clear now why she likes to be abused in bed

>>35672405
I get that you living with your ex could also be a warning for her. But her being so suspicious of you living with her is a big warning too. She is probably the type of girl who gets upset if you went out drinking with friends and one or two of them are girls

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>>35672369
>upset I dint get to fuck hot Asian pussy

>>35672370
Who's asking?

>>35672433
Could be. This is also the girl who is/was pressuring me to find other holes to fill.

I hope she hits me up so I can humiliate her. Also I toms my ex to leave that shit alone and she just wouldn't.

>>35672370
>tfw you have pics of bimbo saved because he is goals

>>35672153
That might be so. Don't some get tested randomly year round though?

>>35672221
Maybe I'll just blast in the offseason then. Maybe they'll let us know when they test and I can work around that. I'm sure they don't test more than once a semester and I'm sure they only test a few athletes. I'll get something figured out

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1 week on lads

Really feel like I need to up the calories. Ive been sorta lazy with diets and been going to Mcd's accross the street

Really liking these anavar pumps tho

>>35672493
That's a really nice thing to say when I'm feeling angry and a little sad. Thanks anon.

>>35672463

I'm just curious brah I see you in these threads often

>>35672463
Did she fuck the Asian's ex just to do this? Seems like a much shittier person than the waifu you always talked about.

>>35672513
>"Natty"test 01/18/16(Mon)19:43:39 No.35672
Cute jaw

i bet you look so cute with some cum all over your face ;p

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>>35672529
6'4
215ish

>>35672506
Yes but you can be on "a unplanned last second holiday" and miss up to 2 tests (could be 1 I can't remember exactly) without any repercussions

>>35672541
Lmfao

>>35672543
you look like shit

>>35672534
She claims no. They met through to set but before they'd gone on a date I was like "yo that's my fb's ex. Please be a decent person and just leave it. That'll cause drama for the actual shit I have going".

To which her reply was "I don't tell you who you can and can't fuck". So that was shitty, and seems probably vindictive only because I was getting regular pussy with my girl and she kept getting flaked on.

I'm not saying I don't have responsibility here though. I'm mean, overbearing and a jerk 100% of the time.

>>35672570
Let's see you faggot

>>35672570
f-for you

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>>35672541
You forgot the no homo

Heres more jaw for your fap sesh

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>>35672570
Just what I needed to hear.

>>35672570
Leave senpai alone if I look like him one day I would be happy and pleased with myself

>>35672598

Im the same weight as you, yet you're bigger/taller

Why

>>35672598

Did you just post this somewhere else recently?

Getting wacky deja vu...are you on bb.com?

Looking good bro. Mirin. One day

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>>35672589
>>35672592
>>35672598
>>35672609
my favorite thing

I was kidding, but I love to see people get riled up over nothing

>>35672570
leave him alone
its the best he can do
so be nice

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>>35672615
>i wuz keding tee hee

>>35672615
>mah save space

I am so hungry right now senpaitachi

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>>35672627
>>35672634
>>35672617
Still getting riled up.

Looks like I've found new bait for the roid threads.

>>35672612
He has better lightning

>>35672651
Could be leg size too

>>35672612
P sure you look better than me so dint trip

>>35672648
You're giving yourself too much credit

>>35671956
No but I probably would have if someone asked.

>>35672598
4chan aint the place to bare your soul when you feeling down mate!

>>35672692
I'm actually pretty okay.

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>shit progress because I'm only eating 3000 calories on a heavy cycle
>actually eat more(lots of protein, carbs as low as I can get, like 100g on 3500-4000+ calories, good carbs like lentils and mashed root vegetables)
>get insane water retention and puffiness

FUCK GENETICS I JUST CAN'T WIN

>>35672735
probably arent training hard enough

you pussy

>tfw test was made with cotton seed so when i blend with tren the difference isn't as discrete as with grape seed

i miss seeing them perf ratios

>>35672735

>heavy cycle
>excess calories

you either lift like shit or your gear is bunk.

>>35672746

Nigga I can't even raise my arm high enough to drink my water by the time I'm done training arms.

muscles are tight as fuck.

>>35672767
haha that sounds like shit progress from over training.
meh, cant diagnose shit over the internet tho.
maybe you're just at your mutant limit

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>get some clen, decide to try it
>"Hmm, starting with 20 mcg seems safe"
>hour later
>can't stop shaking, taken me twice the time to type this as normal
>heart over 200 bpm
>had to leave gym early, nearly passed out
>vision going black

Jesus Christ am I going to be okay?

I was debating taking my EC stack but said no to it at the last minute thank god

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I really need to study but I really want to read the psmf book and get a good grasp on what everything looks like functionally as far as meals, timing, etc goes

>>35670792

you might have to be discharged from dep and redo certain portions of shit

also yes, crypto jobs are high demand high pay across the board in almost every kind of large business or government agency you can imagine

>>35672794
Clen, not even once.

>>35672794
welcome to cardiac hypertrophy

>>35672827
>>35672837
Stop pls I'm crying on my bus home and people are looking at me

Should I go to the hospital?

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>>35672794

>>35672869
And people ask why we don't recommend clen :^)

>>35672855
hospitals cant unkill you.
I suggest drinking lots of water and not taking anymore clen lol. might be good to try and relax and maybe avoid sugary food until your heart stops wanking itself to death. if you did this every day for 2 years you would end up like Zyzz

>>35672869
I'm done I'm done fuck this shit I'm flushing it when I get home

I want to be natty again FUCK FUCK

Feel like I'm getting forced out of my job.

>Spend a couple of minutes talking to a qt that came in today
>Coworker mentions she had to redo all my work because it wasn't done "right," and that I don't pull my weight because I get distracted too easily
>Literally just didn't straighten something stupid, no need to redo all of the work
>Clock out, in a rather irritable mood because another coworker ran late and prevented me from leaving
>Take a nap
>Wake up to 3 shifts being deleted

Pretty sure this all stems back to me complaining about that girl. Before that, didn't have issues with anyone at work.

>>35672954
Office politics are the worst.

>>35672954
Should have started looking for a job as soon as things got heated m8, secure a good reference (fake if need be) and bail.

>>35669848
>circus sideshow freaks

>>35672966
I feel like a lot of it comes down to the fact that I'll wait until the last minute to do a lot of things unless it requires urgency.

>Need to restock something?
Eh, the stuff is clearly visible from a distance. Won't restock it until I leave so I don't have to do it twice.

It's a fucking fast food job but coworkers complain I don't care. And I don't get it because my procrastination doesn't impact anyone but me.

>>35673007
In the process. Just going to bail once I find something. Don't need this shit; thankfully I have good references from school and past employment.

>>35673032
Oh I get this at work too. All but one of my coworkers are men, and the only female I swear has munchausens so there's always an issue and it's always about her.

She just dislikes me because I call her out on her shit. She even admitted to a coworker "she makes me feel stupid" so he replied "stop saying stupid shit".

You gotta either put them in their place and realize your way is more efficient if it costs the same/less money to do that same work or find new work. If you're costing people money, switch it up.

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>>35672954

fairly sure you could get someone strung up by their thumbs for reprisals against you because you reported a case of sexual harassment which they barely even pretended to correct

probably not worth doing shit about, but there is an opportunity there for the properly motivated individual

>>35673096

if there's shit to be done I'll bust my ass, work hard AND smart to get shit done correctly as fast as possible with the least amount of wasted effort

but once I'm done what I have to do you can kiss my fucking pasty white hairy ass if you think I'm doing extra shit just because I'm better than fuckstick mcgee at my job

I call it constructive laziness, I get shit done better and faster than anyone else so I can fuck off, kick my feet up, and make fun of everybody else that's slower than me

I may have had some personality conflicts with the majority of my senior leadership while I was in

>>35673212
>constructive laziness
I do this shit too. I finish quick and efficiently then if I want to impress people I ask for more work or go Bovey and beyond. Normally I just sit there looking like I'm working but I'm just chilling out

>>35673212
This is why my coworker dislikes me some day. Other days it's because she's constantly in conflict with wanting to fuck me. She's like fit white Guy's.

A job that takes her three hours, like a planogram takes me 45 minutes.

Recently I went back and redid her work. She arranged our fridge but forget to rotate and check dates. I had to throw out half our inventory in the fridge because it had expired.

>>35673263
*above and beyond

>>35672124
Implying anyone here ever gets off

>>35673269
>not rotating perishables

fire the bitch

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>>35672954
Fucked them up
Surely your state has branches of government specifically for settling this sort of shit?
Contact them and show how they've cut your shifts after not even trying to resolve the sexual harassment issue

Just gotta have the motivation and confidence dude
Last time I got a chat from the general manger about breaking company policy the conversation ended with her trying to stop me quitting and promising to look the other way when I wanted to break policy of it meant I kept pumping out the volume of work I do

>>35673269
Fucking planograms. I miss working supplement retail sometimes but those were insufferable.

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>>35673212
>constructive laziness
kek every vet will understand this

>>35673356
They're piss easy though, just busy work.

They just give me the following:

Test E 250
Sus250
Tren Ace 100
Test Prop 100
Mast Prop 100
Clen 150mcg

suggestion on dosage/cycle? What about PCT?

>>35673415
weeks 1-14
50 test prop - everyday
50 tren ace - everyday
50 mast prop - everyday

weeks 14-16
40 nolvadex - everyday

weeks 16-18
20 nolvadex - everyday

>>35673464
I only have one vial of each thing. I'll run out if I do that...

>>35673491
>>35673464
>>35673415
eheh its not me..

i got enough vials so dw

what about clen and test e? can i use anavar too?

I hate when girls do the "why dont you date/fuck other girls instead" thing

you guys know what im talking about

>>35673564
Yes I literally do

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You guys ever heard of anybody getting gyno on SARMs?

Also, where do you normally get your SERMs?
Same place you get your other gear?

anyone have experience being low test and miserable and then starting roids/trt?

i am completely miserable at 280ng dl testosterone and 36.6 pg/ml estradiol. no sex drive, always completely exhausted, completely lethargic to everything, cant focus, etc..

will going on testosterone actually turn me around or no? I'm getting it in around a week, i'm literally just going to kill myself if it doesn't help, i can't live like this. no energy to do anything, even minor household chores are torture because i have 0 energy.

>>35673680
I had 250ng/dl at 18 years old. Gear saved my life.

>>35673680
Yes. I get upset when people have to put up with low test when the fix is so simple and safe. Trt will make a big difference.

>>35673743
i hear people say it makes a big difference, but is it possible on the scale of what i am talking about?

from completely miserable and unable to continue living, to normally functional and energetic?

How long to do PCT? All I'm finding is 4 week examples but yet people mention: time on cycle=time on PCT

>>35673637
Gyno on SARMs is very possible. Despite what most people think gyno isn't simply caused by high estrogen it can also be caused by an off balance T:E ratio. SARMs are suppressive on T levels which can throw off that balance causing gyno in some individuals.

Go pharma for SERMs, Indian generics are fine.
If your going to be running a SERM to prevent gyno while your running a SARM I suggest 30mg of raloxifene/day. No significant sides, cheap and very effective.

>>35673680
>>35673760
i've heard it really does make a huge difference. if you're getting TRT you're probably going to feel like a man in the first time in years. how old are you with that level of test?

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>>35673743
So fucking stupid and ignorant. *Yes* its "safe" in the sense that its not going to kill you; but no, it is not safe in the sense that you may have to take a weekly shot FOR THE REST OF YOUR FUCKING LIFE, and may be infertile FOR THE REST OF YOUR FUCKING LIFE.

So shortsighted and stupid, get fucked.

>>35673760
If you truly feel like you can't continue living trt might give you the will to live. I can't promise it'll cure anything but your low test though.

>>35673784
lmfao look at this nigger

>>35673784
He'd be fucked and possibly infertile without it???

>>35673731
Did you start with Endo-prescribed trt or hop right into self-medicated gear? I'm cuurently at around 220 ng/dl at 20 years old and I really feel like I'm missing out on some serious improvement, especially since i'm in collegiate athletics

>>35673778
i'm 18 years old. i remember being happy and energetic as a kid, but when i hit puberty it all went down hill. I just got gyno surgery a few days ago for my massive gyno presumably caused by my low test and high estrogen.

i've never felt "like a man" honestly, since i just went from being a pre puberty kid to a low test fag.

>>35673784
As opposed to living with low test? I'd rather inject myself weekly than live with low test and pop some SSRIs or benzos. Its incredibly safe at trt doses. Its by far one of the safest drugs you can be prescribed.

>>35673806
I tried going through an endo but I got dicked around and was sick of paying hundreds of dollars for 5 minutes of the doctors time so I said fuck it and started self-TRT. Loved it. Two months later I was doing babbys first blast and haven't looked back since.

>>35673864
So are your levels just totally fucked when you cycle off or do you cruise?

>>35673838
you sound the exact same as me
do you think your finished puberty? i feel like im still a few years behind my peers.. i mean in terms of facial/body hair, deepening of voice, adams apple, prominent body odour, acne etc.. i have none of those things and it seems like everybody else does

>>35673879
Blast and cruise.
Once I get the body I want I plan to permacruise on something like 200test 200mast.

>>35673802

>test within reference range for a 18-40 year old man
>you think he'll be infertile

>>35673798
tell me i'm wrong, its a *massive* risk. Maybe not to body, but to lifestyle

>>35673856
It's safe as in you're bringing yourself up to natural levels, so there is no danger. It is not safe, as in your body will most likely permanently not let you make it again. Better hope you got a steady job, great insurance, and nothing happens to modern society or you'll go from low t to zero t.

>>35673885
>>35673838
same here, going to get my shit tested soon because i'm sick of living like this
18 years old, patchy beard, little/no sex drive, weak voice, puffy nips but no lumpy/hard gyno lumps as far as i can tell, ~15% bf

>>35673907
Your body is already not making enough test if you're going on trt. Is your reason for not going on trt if you have low t really the collapse of society?

>>35673838
280 at 18 is definitely fucked. get that test, you will feel better guaranteed. that low of a level is a problem, and you'll have it solved by the TRT. congrats bro, you're going to make it

>>35673907

Lets be honest here, almost everyone talking about 'trt' in a gear thread isn't using it to top up to natural levels.

>>35673907
If he has no fucking desire to live, it's the smart decision to attempt endo/self TRT rather than ending it you stupid fuck. Gear can save lives if it's not abused, and the risks are incredibly minimal if you're smart about it.

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>>35673932
>>35673935

I'm honestly just trying to save young, stupid peoples lives here. Being 280 at 18 is within normal range. Eating healthy fats, getting plenty of vitamin d, and lifting *heavy* is going to bring you to ~500 at least. You're going to literally require a shot every fucking day for the rest of your life listening to these fucking idiots.

I'm a huge fan of steroids, but self perscribed TRT is fucking dumb as shit because the length of time on cycle is going to wreck you, literally forever, especially at that age. If you are within ref range, your balls are WORKING.

People need to understand the real risks of long term cycles/trt. The risks are especially dangerous if under 26 and if over 35.

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>>35673775
That was a really helpful reply, thank you.

Reason I ask is soon I'll be going on a cycle of Sarms S22 forte (basically ostarine+) and CJC1295/Ipamorelin.

It's prescribed by a doctor which is cool and I asked him about gyno and he said to just say if it develops and we'll go from there, I'm shitscared of self medicating with a SERM but can you just buy them at a chemist?

I'm in Australia too.
I'm getting bloodwork done before I start as well. On TB500 and pegMGF right now but I doubt they'll affect my T/E at all.

Is there a way to know if gyno is "coming on" so I can stop usage and scale back? If I stop, how long do you normally wait before starting SARMs again?

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>>35673946

Risks are not minimal, you clearly dont know what you're talking about. Needing injections for life/infertility is almost certain with self-prescribed trt.

Id just cycle hard, maybe itll pull you out of your slump because 280 at 18 means your nutsack is working.

>>35673975
>>35673775
Oh yeah, forgot to add I'm 27, 6ft, 82 kilos.
If any of that means anything.

>>35673964
You have no proof or scientific basis for what you're saying. Nobody advised self prescribed to begin with and advising people to AVOID medical treatment for their disorders is NOT SAFE. Thats my final word on it.

>>35673964
>280
>bottom 1% percentile for my age
>normal

>>35673907
His test levels are only just above where you would be prescribed TRT. 30 lower and he would get it
How is it a massive risk? It's not a risk to health. There is only risk of getting caught if you walk around talking about your gear while you have it on you
Permanent shutdown does not occur

>>35673978
sure guy

>>35673964
Test boosting stuff like that does not work to the level you are saying. 100% increase will not occur

>>35673978
>Bottom 1% means you are perfectly normal
No something is clearly wrong if you are in the bottom 1%

>>35673964
280 is NOT normal range at 18, not even fucking close - men under 25 are supposed to have levels around 600-700, and 18 would probably be higher than that

>>35673975
Are you a sportsperson or are you seeing one of them anti-aging clinic doctors?

You can't buy SERMs from within Australia without a script and your not getting a script unless you already have gyno.
However you can buy SERMs online and legally import them into Australia.
Search AllDayChemist, it's an online indian pharmacy that ships to Australia. Pls no ban mods, everything ADC sells is legal.
SERMs are relatively very safe, especially raloxifene. You have nothing to worry about self medicating.

Symptoms of gyno are pretty easy to spot, if your nipples begin having any of the following symptoms then it's safe to say you should come off or increase your SERM dosage; tenderness, itchyness, puffyness or if you feel a lump under the nipple.
PS: please don't start playing with your nipples constantly to check for gyno or you're going to give yourself gyno.

Since we're on the topic, what do you guys think about sarms for someone with low t who is "too young" for trt?

>>35674056
Seeing these guys.
https://www.peptideclinics.com.au/

They're pretty good actually, I'm getting stuff from them because I have injuries that fucked me up and not only did I lose my gains but was kept out of the gym by injuries that would refuse to fuck off.

Was able to do lat pulldowns yesterday for the first time without pain after 6 weeks on tb500 which is pretty cool. This next cycle is really to just "catch up" on everything I would have missed.

I'm assuming the dosage is alright to avoid sides (25 units per day on the insulin syringe), it's the weeks on it that give me grief. The guys there said people go on them for as long as 20 weeks and I'm thinking "faaaark". I was imagining more like 6-8

>>35674061
Sarms will rape your test levels if you're already low T

A friend of mine went from 700ng/dl to 154ng/dl in 4 weeks after taking 10mg a day.

>>35674021
This

>>35674061
Don't recommend, it will just make your problem worse.
Self-TRT or try to restart your HPTA with a SERM.

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>tb-500

Anybody here got any experience with it?
How was it?

How get HCG in australia

>>35674121
10mgs is a lot I'm assuming lgd. I'm thinking 3-5mgs using DAA throughout if I can find some info on whether thats safe on DAA.

>>35674152
As a cycle, not as a trt substitute. I'll get on that trt flow once I move out of my parents house or my test levels drop further for the doc to put me on.

>>35674056
>call bank to remove block for adc purchase
>block it anyways
>closed for mlk day

fuck adc sometimes man

>>35674061
self medicate trt

What's /fraud/'s opinion on short cycles? Was thinking, for my first, to run test prop 100mg EOD for 6 weeks. Sure would get me used to pinning I figure. My main fear is test shutdown and never returning back to normal. I suppose I could run HCG if doing longer cycles.

>>35674705
Less than 10 weeks is a waste

>>35672592
Lol

>>35674722
You think so? I figured it would be better than nothing and I could bounce back relatively quick. It's either that or test e for 12 weeks. I'm reading that isn't too harsh either.

>>35674743
That would give you a lot more gains and the time spent getting back test levels would be pretty much the same

>>35674756
Cheers bro!

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When getting bloods pre cycle, what panel do you use?

>>35674893
Hormone panel for females I'm pretty sure

I've never done bloods tho

>>35674893
Can't you just say you want to take anabolics?

Alright I made a bitcoin wallet in electrum and have a receiving address. Can i just walk into a libertyx and give them this address to buy some bitcoin?

>>35674907
Right on there was just a shit ton. Just wanted to check estro so I can adjust AI accordingly.
>>35674948
No idea man they seem super discrete though

>tfw using salbutamol
>tfw my heart rate is 110-115 while resting in my bed
a-am I going to die /fit/?
Also all this shacking is making me feel like a dope fiend

>>35675027
Get big or die mirin'

man, my skin is terrible. absolutely awful genes. breaking out like crazy.

making the switch from accutane to doxycycline now and going through the same initial breakout process that happens with acne meds

I wonder if any sarms would give me relief? open to ideas. I'd run accutane and doxycycline together but apparently that wombo combo will give you insane inter-cranial hypertension and cause le aneurysm or something lol

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>>35674893
Like cheer said, the female hormones panel and there should be a section where you can put you're male so they switch the reference ranges for you.

>>35675021
Doctor patient confidentiality kicks in right? So you can say what you are wanting to check and they give you the right one

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How long should I wait after my cycle is over to dnp cut? 9w left (of 24) and I'm like 18% and it feels bad.

>>35675281
You can do it whenever. Ideally you do it while still on test to minimise muscle loss even more
We talked about it quite a bit this thread so read above

>>35675297
Oh cool, thanks friendo. So a mid-cycle dnp cut is an option?

>>35675354
Yep. It's honestly what I would recommend

>3pm
>girl just posted "she feels sensitive" or some shit like that
Is this a good moment to start a conversation?

>>35675041
nothing eh?

shit skin crew for lyfe

at this point my only hope seems to be to get lean as hell and hope my estrogen stays tanked constantly as a result

>>35675440
I already did it, fuck it was a bad idea.

>>35675441
There is not many of us here right now from the looks. I don't know anything about bad skin or SARMS sorry
>hash tag blessed hash tag great skin

>>35675501
>>35675440
What did you say.
Also no it probably isn't a good time imo

>>35675524
Just a random hello

>>35673864
>Let's wait 15 years or so anon and put you on TRT if your levels don't improve

Where do you get bloods? I assume you get bloods if you're perma on.

>>35675542
lol that wouldn't have done enough on a good day

>>35673991
>>35673680
If your levels are not low enough for TRT, you can hop on some LGD and get your levels checked again, it wont show up in the test, and wont fiddle with LH/FSH but it'll suppress test down without anything looking fishy.

>>35675512
skin is a mystery to me

as I understand it it's an organ unto itself that just works great for some people and worse for others

some people can eat like total shit and never get a zit

other people can be vegan/keto/paleo wjatever the fuck works best and be pizza faced AND at low bodyfat

insanity

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Diet question:

I'm guessing when running gear your diet changes to beyond eating 500 cals more a day to gain muscle.

Are there any guidelines at all on how much you alter it? I'd be interested to read it.

I'm guessing some of you when on a bulk with gear would eat like sumo wrestlers.

>>35675588
Yea I feel sorry for my brother who has shit skin. Just acne everywhere. I don't think he has ever done anything for it either

>>35675672
Generally feel it out. Start at 500 and up it until you are putting on too much fat then lower it

>>35675672
In my experience, don't worry too much about changing your diet besides eating more protein

I fell for the 'gear can let you eat like fatlifts and stay lean' meme and gained way too much fat

Only consider eating slightly more protons as gear allows your body to funnel more of it into muscle for recovery aka mo gainz

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holy fucking christ I almost wish I had taken a break from studying in time to catch that fuckwit talking about how 280ng/dl test is normal reference range for an 18 year old and bro you can totally double your levels just by slightly changing diet and lifting heavier, bro you'll be stuck pinning EVERY DAY for the REST OF YOUR LIFE if you do listen to these fucking idiots and use steroids

I mean I'm totally a huge fan despite not knowing a motherfucking thing about what I'm word-vomiting liquid diarrhea about, but nah man that shit will totally WRECK YOU like LITERALLY FOREVER

oh my fucking GOD I want to fucking slap the stupid out of this nigger but I'm pretty sure it'd be like trying to slap the iron out of a 45lb plate without any of the redeeming factors like being fucking hilarious to watch

I'm going to get a fucking whiteboard and start taking down down all the stupid motherfucking things I need to write fuck-off huge tl;dr rants about with like talking points and citations and shit

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Hey guys,
Natty here; 173lbs currently and 153 lbs on stage. I'm thinking about running my first cycle 500mg test e, but there's also a show coming up I want to compete in. Can I use test E going into my competition? Will it have a good re-comping effect on me?

Planning to do classic physique as opposed to actual bbing.

>>35675573
what would you use instead?

>>35675882
I just need to max my weight out at 165 lbs on stage.

>>35675876
>double your levels just by slightly changing diet and lifting heavier,

All this shit we read about "raise test naturally!" annoys me now, you know the readers want to make more gains but they won't just buy some fucking test and inject it.

Stuff that alters test (getting horny, winning a fight, eating stuff) is all really transient, I wish these people got it.

>>35675876
>inb4 brick an heros because cant take anons stupidity any longer

>>35675882
Tren is more up your alley for recomping

If you wanna lean and out get bigger for show try

750 tren
250 test
100mg var ed

>>35675919
I get that, I may try tren later down the road. This show I'm aiming for is a smaller local level show. Maybe throw var in then at the last 4-6 weeks an EQ with my test cycle?

What kind of blood levels does 500mg Test E get up to?

E3D schedule seems to peak at 82.9mg/day and min at 60.9mg/day using the steroid graph thingy.

I've read that a young healthy male would produce 6-7mg per day.

So thats more than 10x

But people sat 250mg will put your on the upper end of natty range, so this isn't making sense desu.

>>35675929
No no no what the fuck anon

Eq takes forever to kick in

Need to start eq atleast like 12weeks out to really get the 'pop' of the delts and veins

>>35675932
What you need to understand is that testosterone in the blood is measured in terms of "ng/dL" or nanograms per decaliter. The body undergoes several reactions when injecting an exogenous compound and converting to active test in the blood.

SInce i'm certain you're not very well versed in science, let's just put it this way. A 'normal' or 'physiological' range of testosterone is between 350-1150 ng/dL. A supraphysiological level then is anything above that threshold. When getting bloodwork done during cycle you just want your number anywhere above that 1150 mark.

>>35675941
S-sorry, I'm a newb senpai.

Would you advise a newbie cycler to use test and eq for an upcoming show, assuming he understands how to prep & everything already? Or just skip the show altogether and just focus on gaining with test?

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>>35675882
>>35675929

no

you have so much reading to do about everything it isn't even funny, and I should've been in bed like 2 hours ago so gl with that

>>35675919

I'm going to have a fucking aneurysm from staring at some of the mind-boggling shit people post here and bleed into my fucking brain

>>35675932

dose response is a curve, not a straight line

>>35675961
Why not? I mean EQ can cause anxiety in some people but if it works for you, you will look very good given that you diet correctly. Big capped thick delts witb veins running down them, thick traps, etc. Just test alone doesn't give the crazy roid look of the delt caps/traps, aka screaming to everyone I AM SO ANDROGENIC AHHHH

>>35675971
I've done my homework on esters and everything, I know test e retains more water and EQ takes forever to kick in due to its longer ester.
Var I literally know nothing about other than the fact that it's the most faked substance.
I was wondering if you can just try to be more unconventional with gear use.

>>35675971
SAUSE ON THIS GIRL SENPAI?

>>35676006
Var as I understand it somehow dries you out further via some interaction with cortisol (which will cause bloating) and also adds to the overall 'pop'

also keeps you strong as fugg in prep when you're eating like a rodent

>>35675876
Brick senpai
Go to sleep

>>35675987
would EQ and adex take care of the water retention of test e?

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>>35675876
There are a lot of things where I'm becoming convinced people have no idea.

I'm reading about PEG-MGF for instance and the suggested dosages range from injecting it intra-muscularly immediately after working out, to only injecting it sub q on non-training days.

One guy even suggests dividing it up into 20 "mini doses" and injecting it all over the muscle you want to grow into.

To make it even better, all 3 can suggest that the other two ideas are absolutely wrong things to do and you'll waste the injection.

You just want to say after a while to these people "if you don't know and you're just pulling it out of your ass, can you just say? Or if you know, tell us why you know".

Makes you shake your head, I tell you what.

>>35676028
thanks for the answers. I'm just trying to avoid tren (and other harsh compounds) altogether for like, my first 10 years of gear use lol.

>>35676038
anavar eq adex and low sodium leading up to show will make you drier than accutane lips anon

>>35675971
Please anyone... sauce on this girl

>>35676060
I tried tren and didn't die; just makes it easy as fuck to go hypoglycemic and you can be tired as balls but still only
manage to get 4hrs of sleep... what the fuck tren? where is the logic in this; it's like you're body is fighting the urge to stay passed out despite being so sleepy

>>35676045
PEG-MGF has a long half life compared to regular MGF iirc right.

Therefore it should have a systemic effect as it's hitting the bloodstream.

>>35676068
Show I'm planning to do is April 30th. I'm planning to start up test sometime in the beginning February.

What's your reccomended dosing schedule?

We need a new bread fellas!
Where is our multi edition saviour yolo

>>35676111
Lol sounds magical. A lot of my mates claim tren is the golden nugget; that even somehow girls get hornier around them during tren.

But man, I'm 23 and about to graduate college. I'd rather save tren for when I'm more advanced and for a bigger show. I'm just getting my feet wet.

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>>35676139
I sorta thought that but I'll put my cards on the table and say I haven't got a clue.

I'll see what Brick thinks though.

>>35676150
>>35676164

Ok well if your show is in april we need short esters first off. So eq is out of the question. Tbh I would just try tren. Maybe first month run it low to feel out the hypoglycemia (youll feel it) and get on a kinda normal tren sleep schedule. Also this will ensure prolactin doesn't go crazy right away.

So try this

month 1 350tren/500 test
month 2 350 tren/500 test
month 3 500 tren/250 test
month of show 750 tren/250 test

you'll be an animal

>>35676192
>>35676192
New

>>35675563
lol, this is what my parents said about my giant ass gyno when i was 17. keep in mind they are somehow surgeons. "you're way too young right now. let's see how it is when you're 25."

fuck those retards, just got it done myself now that I'm 18.

Girl Is begging for attention now. Just texting shit to rile me up or make me respond.

Last thing I texted her was "okay" 6 hours ago after she said "go find someone hotter to fuck". Holy shit this girl 180'd into batshit crazy territory.

#L8TR'D hard

>>35676195
If we're doing short esters for a first cycle, might as well skip the test e and go straight for prop, no?

>>35673964
reddit: the post

A basic cycle for strength?

>>35676975
The ability to type a complete sentence?

Done 2 cycles before, have been wanting to do a tren e / test e / dbol cycle.

Can you guys give some insight if this is good or if I need to tweak something?

Tren e 200mg / week 10 weeks - Inject once a week
Test e 500mg / week - 12 weeks - Inject once a week
Dbol 50mg ED first 7 weeks

Weeks 1-12 arimidex .25 mg (1/4th) Every Other Day

HCG 1000 iu / week from week 1 to week 14 (14.000 iu needed)

PCT starts 2 weeks after last test inject

Week 14 - Nolva 40mg ED, Clomid 100mg ED
Week 15 - Nolva 40mg ED, Clomid 100mg ED
Week 16 - Nolva 20mg ED, Clomid 50mg ED
Week 17 - Nolva 20mg ED, Clomid 50mg ED
Week 18 - Nolva 20mg ED, Clomid 50mg ED