why am I so much weaker on shoulder press machine than actual

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>>35438221

Probably because the range of motion of the machine does not fit the natural movement of your shoulders.

Try using a barbell instead.

>>35438221

like >>35438273
>3
said, with the machine your hands stay in the same vertical plane, unlike a db press where your hands have full range of motion, making it easier to do.

>>35438221
I only see 3 druids. I could've sworn it had 5 or 6 before

>>35438303
So which is better for mass?

>>35439005
Depends on what you want to achieve. There is no clear "better" or "worse" with these things. If you want to have a nice compound exercise, then take the free weights, obviously. If you want to put more emphasis or even isolate your frontal delts, then use the machine.

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>>35438221
What the fuck is with this dudes face?

>>35439037
The Mystery of the Druids

>>35439037
glass in front of it so i can't see

>>35439037
that's one Druid, find the other 3 in the picture

>>35439034
>machine movements cannot be compounds
meme on, /fit/

the answer is it doesn't matter, do whicher one you like more.

and the degree of shoulder abduction determines whether the front or side delts are emphasized.

>>35439037
>doesn't notice the bottle
>doesn't notice the hulk on her arm
lurk moar faggot

>>35439115
The point is that machines usually encourage you to use less muscle groups, as the machine does the stabilization for you. So of course, machine exercises are not traditional compounds.

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>>35439037
>>35438221

What's Hulk Hogan doing in her arm?

>>35439141
not really

I doubt you even understand what stabilization is you cuck.

Chest press, shoulder press, row, pulldown, leg press are all compounds by definition. it DOES NOT matter if it involves stabilizers or not.

plus for hypertrophy, the stabilizers are completely irrelevant.

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>>35439217
Found the last one