/owg/ - Olympic Weightlifting General

>>35377577
Suddenly, the thread slows.

I'm joining a club at a crossfit gym with a USA weightlifting certified coach. What should I expect first day? I have proper oly shoes and have decent strength levels already

>>35377855
technique for a couple months

why can't I balance when doing overhead squats?

I remember my first time doing them with just a 45lb bar I feel back on my ass and had to drop it

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I need the pic of Clarence where he's flying a barbell like it's a Quidditch game

>>35377901
Inflexibility
Not strong in overhead position

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French forearms of peace

>>35377923
Should I kill myself or actually start doing overhead squats?

Should I do them as a warmup before workouts? I'm not an Oly lifter yet. But I power clean at the beginning of every workout, would it be cool to power clean + overhead squat before every workout?

>>35377992
youre that guy who says hes in a commercial gym atm right?

Look for a weightlifting gym or a crossfit gym with a barbell club and lift

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>>35377695
it needed more mattieposting

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>>35378416

>>35378060
Fuck you you don't know who I am!!!

I dunno if anybody responded to my reply. I didnt check, shit.

There's a crossfit in my area, expensive as fuck.

My YMCA where I lift actually has a weightlifting hall place, but u gotta pay. but they have coaches and I think if you join you're part of their team and shit, maybe...

If I ever move into a house where I actually have room/place to lift (garage would be perfect), I'll be getting an oly bar, bumpers are stuff.

>>35378416
>>35378443
Is Clarence stronger than her?

my plates aren't rubber. can i still drop them from shoulder height if i get a horse mat

or do i need to buy a weight set of rubber plates

also what do about wrist pain when overhead squatting

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>>35377916

Would anyone here pay money to get their hands on a pair of used Mattie socks?

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>>35378697
yes he is a boy

>>35378805
yes

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>>35378805
do u have the socks or are u a lying piece of shit

>>35379004
I'm just asking

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>>35379017
i thought it was obvious people wanted mattie socks

>>35379082
Why?

>>35378736
any of you faggots going to answer my question or what

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https://www.instagram.com/p/-ZbpiLQ1KU/?taken-by=mattiecakesssss

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>>35379110
why do people drink water

ok ok fellas...mattie is sorta ok bc at least she lifts well, but the 2016 influx of weightlifting thirst traps is upon us...they've become self aware

idk why these girls gotta train 85% naked, shorts covering like 3cm of their ass cheek, tits smashed up in some crazy back sports bra, camel toe for days...

i mean you're decent weightlifter, we all know you got a body from training duhhhh - shits nice to look at but when this goes down in our training hall it distracts all the lads for the wrong reasons. motivates me to train hard but some of the boys think its social club up in here bc of this harlotry

top kek when the strongest girl in our gym wears gnarly tattered baggy sweats n tees every day, out totals some guys, and doesnt give a shit about her fake/madeup appearance while training. that shit is more cash desu

>>35378736
>>35379119
i thought this was a olympc weightlifting question thread not a fucking bunch of losers worship some ugly btches who ohp cucumbers you gay niggers

>>35379282
how much do u ohp?

>>35379328
ur mom

>>35379356
impressive

>>35379248
agreed desu... It's mostly just Western crossShit sluts who dress like that though

rip to this thread
rip mattie webm poster

>>35379382

I think lots of girls do it for attention, but an equal number do it for comfort. Look at what Lu and Tian Tao wear when they train; it's practically the male equivalent. And I don't mind looking at mattie in a sports bra at all

>>35379484
>And I don't mind looking at mattie in a sports bra at all
yeah i dont get these fags whining about girls in the gym being too attractive or w/e

if you cant control your horny level how can you control 180kg overhead?

>>35379484

attention yes - as i type this its 52 degrees in our training hall. no heat/ac, just some portable space heaters. if training in no clothes in cold ass december weather is a comfort thing, then color me purple m80s

>>35379618
Most of us live in countries with indoor heating m8.

>>35379822
>>35379586
Agreed. Or warmer climates where lifting in lots of clothing is uncomfortable

>>35379906
Yeah. At my coaches, even in midwinter, the heating+having 10-15 lifters in a little 3 platform gym means it can get uncomfortably warm.

>>35377577
how do i strenghten my wrist? i get slight tendonitis in both wrist once every 3 or 4 weeks and it last a few days.
i can snatch properly but i cant clean for shit, it also bother my front squat and pressing work.
what can i do? i already use really thick and tight wrist wraps.

>>35380227
Forearm isolations/grip work like wrist curls and work on your wrist flexibility is all you can do, really

That's assuming your technique isn't at fault for causing the pain.

>>35380706
i think it's because i have girly wrist, 17 cm of circumfearence at best

Is Clarence an autistic beta?
Look, he is fucking strong and looks like he knows what he does, people appeal for his advice. He could be the Candito of weightlifting yet he just train 24/7 in a shitty collegue gym, and also never compites, never speaks in his videos. Looks like all he does in his life is lifting, but he could be fucking fucking bitches, he's tall and clearly handsome.
He needs to take advantage of what he already did.

>>35378784
Thanks a lot f a m

>>35380227

I had this problem, it was usually triggered by overhead work and heavy front squats. Turned out to be both wrist inflexibility and over dependence on the arms to maintain the overhead position. The solution was, of course, to lock out properly and to stretch the wrists.

>>35379248
>some of the boys think its social club up in here bc of this harlotry
found the autist who is too ashame to flirt with oly grills

>>35380828
true heroes dont talk, brag, or boast.

Ive only met a few alphas ever, SEALS assigned to guard a marine encampment in iraq The aura of those guys...

And then a few sell out and write shitty books. Its gotta happen.

But the true alphas, the real ones, nobody knows their names. They barely exist. It is not what they say about them, not what people know about them, but what they do.

And Clarence is fucking strong

>>35380828
>thinking chasing 'bitches' is alpha
>thinking aiming to be the best in the world at what you do is beta
>posting on 4chan about how other people don't 'take advantage' of what they have [to fuck bitches]
>probably thinks if he looked like clarence he'd be having sex rn
I have bad news for you

>>35381220
>thinking aiming to be the best in the world at what you do is beta

if you don't compete you can never prove you're the best.

>>35377577
that webm was awe inspiring

>>35381245
I dont think anyone argued otherwise

>>35380828
he's just normal. It's Like schwarzenegger vs ferrigno or sergio. He doesn't have exceptional character but it doesn't mean somethings wrong with him.... I'd say Ilya is like the arnold of weightlifting or klokov if he was better

>>35381245
he does compete though.

>>35381311

klokov is the arnold of weightlifting, he's known more for promoting the sport (even though he had a great competition record too).

>>35381359
ya i agree and he's entrepeneurial/ quit while still in his prime to follow another dream. has a lot of confidence / is learning enlgish/ girls love him/ funny accent.... except arnold was a better body builder than klokov was a weightlifter.

>>35381359
although ilya is already being entrepenurial and hes only 27 i think. so he has a lot of time to grow.

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What do you guys wear to the gym?

I'm too insecure to wear tights

>>35381940
shirt/shorts

>>35381940
you should be too insecure to wear tights. that's some gay ass crossfit shit

Tell me good Instagram accounts to follow related to oly
Or just in general

CK snatchin 185 lads

>>35382304
klokov
allthingsgym

>>35381940
i wear a nike short and grey tshirt

Clarebear snatched 185 boys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00SWOUnAgL0

>>35382943
look how fast he moved compared to the 170

obv fake plates

>>35382943
How does he snatch so fast? How do people snatch without throwing their head back

>>35383023
>How does he snatch so fast?

he's a big guy

Lads. Question about nutrition.

I know fuck all about it. I've become a bit skinny fat. Should I cut? Or is recomp possible?

Asking here because I need it to impact my oly.training as little as possible.

I was thinking of cleaning up my diet, upping proteins and eating maintenece. Am I retard?

>>35383275
which oly are u train for

i am train for 205467

>>35381940
compression tights/cutoff shirt.

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wo. That's a lotta lean. Also the depth is not so good.

>>35383974
a fucking bowl cut

does this raise your autism level by 1000

>>35384048
It's not a bowl cut it's just a bad haircut ;__;

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waifu

>>35384729
smushy faced midget

>>35377967

How come nobody notice this?

Tian Tao squatting 300kg at 85kg bodyweight like it was an average day on the job.

His max is 320+.

>>35384992
but he can't jerk 211kg lol

>>35385031

>lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sArAlOgGznU

>>35384992
that's 302

DYEL?

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Gonna dump some webms.

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>if successful, 1 in the snatch
>tfw

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>>35382191
I dunno man, all these oly lifters wear m. Is it really gay?

>>35385752
No, baggy shorts like durkz wears is far more crossfit desu. Just watch crossfit they always wear those retarded boardshorts looking shit

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Da best

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Sorry for quality loss

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King klarense

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>>35386894
Ow man this is great thx

>>35385752
a) Klokov makes sweats look like tights
b) If your legs are less than 28 inches around you're not only going to look like a faggot, but also a flaming idiot faggot.

>>35384097
Why do some people squat down at the end of the clean and jerk instead of just doing the "jerk" or whatever is usually done?

>>35387446
I believe it's to do with physiology. Some people are better at the lunge jerk and some are better at the squat jerk.
It could also just be lazy training, i.e. Xiaojun learned it that way so he sticks to it. Then again, considering his performance level I doubt he would choose the worse of the two techniques out of laziness.

>>35386891


Question here: Clarence always seems to do some jump when front squatting the weight during the clean - is this actually bad/odd technique? Seems rather unnecessary and energy draining

>>35387249
The thing that would make you the biggest faggot would be listening to a guy who feels the need to trip on 4chin

>>35387715
this

I usually just train in my singlet, or in compression shorts and a t-shirt/tank-top

>>35387249
my legs are only 27.5 inches but i'm 5'7 and they look pretty fucking joocy in compression pants.
also comfy as fuck and two girls in my team openly complimented me about my bulge.

>>35387807
I'm 6'1 with legs smaller than 28 and I train in whatever I like, who gives a fuck what some mediocre lifter on the internet thinks

i always get secret mires in compression stuff, mfw 5.5inch soft

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>tfw its my birthday but the adidas powerlift i ordered to myself as a gift still haven't arrived
Guess i will work out in my busted converses tomorrow too.

>>35388257
haha i remember having to use my shitty converse, where did yours rip?

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>>35388282
Feels shitty because the insole keeps escaping and i have to keep putting it back.

>>35388310
you should have got the low top and trust me snatches and cleans are so much easier with a heel

>>35388405
I hope so, at least i will not be using this for much longer.

>>35383974
the lean is fine, why the fuck are you slowing down in the middle of the squat?

>>35384188
this is why we need longer bars

>>35385704
>>35385721
>>35385743
>>35385760
>>35385782
>>35385790
>>35385814
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>>35385907
ty senpai, shes been my imaginary oly gf since worlds

>>35380828
I dunno, I mean it's the same with Armenian strength. 280 squat at 83 (almost got 290 once I heard) and yet he hardly speaks and when he does respond it's usually something sarcastic it seems, like when he said he trained for wrestling. Guaranteed that he fucks bitches on the daily though.

>>35382943
Really should train as a 105 imo.

>>35385031
His Max is 230 training, 218 comp.

>>35388796
>hurr durr
>look aesthetic and fuck bitches brah

>>35388796
He was autism speed rubix cuberbqck in hs before he roided up for college

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>>35388758
back the fuck off !?!?!!

>>35388796
Why should he? He's a sprinter that would get rekt in a PL competition, due to his abuse of the bar oscillation.
He doesn't care about PL, nor does Clarence (it seems). They are both far from the top in their respective sports, so they see no reason to hold seminars and behave like a fucking superstar.

>>35390030
Are you retarded Armenian dude competed in pl and held some Jr. Records when he was a skinny think like ob

>>35390346
Yeah but he also opened with 270 in a comp in August and bombed out. I think the hashtag #armenianbomboutsquad has a video.

>>35377916

Is this lowbar?

>>35391008
So he does care and compete in pl unlike what that guy I replied to said

>>35391147
yes

clarence is a fucking retard who only got so far with genetics and roids. you're never supposed squat shitty low bar ever but that's what happens when you're both arrogant and and have genetics on your side. without the roids he'd be fucked in terms of strength from squatting low bar

>>35391147
No that's not lowbar

>>35391147
Low high bar

I think

>>35391147

No.

>>35391300

No.

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Training today was shit comrades

Have barely done the classics the last few weeks, and my coach had me do daily max today

Bombed out 100/125

>>35391415
It's on the shelf his traps create. It's just highbar.

>>35390030
clarence far from the top? not really..... How many people in the 105s are better than him right now? 10 maybe? and he's not even filled out to a full 105 yet

>>35393514
>comparing training numbers, from someone who hasn't competed in a long time, to actual athletes.
I guess Klokov is the best 105 atm?

>>35388741
I think eleiko is working on a 35kg plate for this reason, or rather, for women because their barbells fit fewer plates, but they would solve this issue too

>>35393514

What is Clarence's competition total again? 0/0?

In all seriousness, Clarence has posted impressive numbers--for his age and relative experience. He is a world class lifter, but he is still dozens of kilos below the 105 podium.

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Just finished SS and looking to get into Oly Lifts. Is it essential to invest in a coach to practice and learn the movements from?

I'm really struggling to find a coach in my city.

>>35377577
you should practice a bit more
i mean youre lifting about 200kg but you look like you weigh half of that lol
maybe cut a bit to be more competitive in a lower weight class or something
still a good lift 7/10

>>35394358
No. Pick a good lifter and model tech after them. Also use resources in op.

>>35394382
nike weightlifting you're not funny you fucking spic

learn some english ese

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>>35385995
>>35385975
>>35385907


requesting tatiana kashirina, she's my waifu (thanks bro)

tfw she's stronger than me

>>35394254
They fit fewer plates but not even Tatiana or whatever her name is cant fill the bar

>>35395097
>Tatiana or whatever her name is

back to reddit cuckadoodledoo

>>35395131
agree
>>35395059
seconding

Hey /owg/ can you check my friends form. I dont do oly so I don't know what's wrong with it https://youtu.be/8VyumICJY5Y

>>35395431

Everything is wrong with it. Dude needs to find some good tutorials and rebuild his form from the start.

>>35395431
you suck your friend off so he can do some form check too

>>35395446
Why don't you

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>>35395431
Kek

>>35382304
hookgrip

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The Mattie webm guy quit or something. Several Matties went rare because they weren't posted. If a Mattie is posted it's always late. Shake my head.

I guess I can be the new Mattie webm guy.

>>35395753
he finnaly realized how ugly mattie is

>>35394241
Point still stands, clarebear just snatched 185, he's really good obv

>>35395431
>no hip contact
>weak extension
>shit rack position
>push press jerk
needs to relearn the basics pretty much
>>35395437 is correct

>>35377577
How hard is OW on your knees? I'm thinking of starting but the way I see them drop into the bottom of the movements scares me.

>>35395633

If he thinks that was a jerk, he needs more help than I realised. That was a full push press. Aside from the rack (elbows up, not under like you would in a press), it wasn't bad for a push press. But it wasn't a jerk.

The hang clean needs to less like a deadlift lockout and more like an actual clean. Get some legs into it rather than just bending at the hip and banging it up

>>35395969
Why would that make him stop posting Mattie? He posted her because she's a good weightlifter.

>>35396040
ive found its only really bad if im not stretching/recovering well enough, most of the time its fine though(always tender sore, but not painful)

some people like clarence have constant pain from there level of training, like twice a days with crazy volume and no back off days/weeks

>>35396040
Yes very hard on it. Get over it

>>35396075
I see, thanks. I'm hesitant because I've had issues with heavy squats in the past but it was usually remedied by stretching or less volume like you said.

>>35382304
mastrength

what do i do when my back is super tight and sore?

>>35396282
you cry and take a nap

>>35396282
I'm coming back from an injury, I just came out of juggernaut method to get back into it (I had to completely stop for a few months, not much left). My squats are still pretty bad though and my flexibility needs work, so I'm thinking of going into a squat intensive workout for the next few weeks. I was thinking of squatting every single day of the week, with both light days and heavy days obviously. Is there a good program that incorporates that and that could build my weightlifting technique back up before really getting into it again?

>>35396574
>>35396282
sorry didn't mean to reply to you, forgot to remove it after popping up the quick reply.

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>>35395969
i never said she was ugly. i could keep posting more of her if i want to.

also i like how the other anon posted webms of rebeka koha another fav waifu. heres two new ones that she posted on her ig

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>>35395059
if you're asking me personally, i don't do other people's waifu

>>35396747
POST IG NOW

>>35396775
not sure if its private or not but shell add you https://www.instagram.com/rebeka_koha/

>>35386891
>If Miniladd were to become jacked as fuck.

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>>35396788
thx lad

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wew lad

>>35396282
Rest, ice, foam roll

>>35397453
is that rebeka koha?

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>>35397908
ofc

>>35397948
i would most definitely go deep and never pull out

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>>35398150
lewd

>>35398168
dont act like you wouldnt

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>>35398367
i just want to squeeze her sex arms to be quite dishonest

>>35398408
>tfw youre not cuddling with your strong asf latvian gf
why even live

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>>35398426
>>35398408
>>35398367
>>35398168
>>35398150
>>35397948
>>35397908
>>35397551
>>35397542
>>35397453
Can we stop posting female weightlifters. We get it you are thirsty. You are the same losers who lift for women and post anime pictures.

JUST STOP REEEEEEEE

>>35398587
ma strength is definitively the best account on oly
weightlifting on instagram

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>>35396775
>>35397453
>>35397542
>>35397551
>>35397948
>>35398168
>>35398408
you do know she's underage, right?

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>>35398560
i can't handle all those implications

>>35398630
who gives a fuck faM

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>>35398630
she isn't, and i'm not >>35398150 anyway

>>35398596
Just a shame they're a bunch of con men

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I remember back when I first started browsing /owg/ before faggots started spamming webms of their "waifus". Go back to r9k or just do the world a favor and kill yourselves, please.

>>35398927
>waaaaa stop creating content
>waaa girls trigger me stop

>steal videos from weightlifter's instagrams
>creating content
pick one
also I have no problem with female weightlifters, I have a problem with the creeps and their weightlifting waifus. it's weird and gross. get a real girlfriend.

>>35398979
yeah that's what creating content means on 4chan.
for me waifu is just a synonym for favorite, if rebeka wasn't a talented weightlifter i wouldn't give two fucks about her.

>>35399014
and to add a bit on the creating content part, with the implementation of webms here, it's thousands of webms created, even if most of them are "stolen" from movies or whatever, don't shit on that like it's nothing.

>>35398738
Why do people feel the need to yell after lifting? Dont they realize it causes you to faint?

>>35398927
There was always waifu posting m8 right from the off people posted Lidia and Mattie its only recently since webm guy newfags act like its a recent thing. Noone used to get butthurt about it in the past

Bet you don't even remeber the jb edition

>>35399263
It's not the yelling that makes you faint

Is it even possible to be aesthetic and oly lifter at the same time?

>>35399698
If being aesthetic is all you care about, fuck off.

>>35399698
theres a lot of aesthetic olympic lifters out there m80

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>>35399698
nope

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>>35399698

>>35399698
Yes.

Roids.

I'd do a lower/upper split 4x a week. Clean & Jerk first thing on lower days, Snatch first thing on upper days.

e.g.

Lower:
Clean & Jerk: Singles or whatever
Front Squat 5x5 or 3-4x6-8
RDL 2-3x6-8 (this is reduced volume because deep squats already work the glutes/hamstrings a lot)
Leg Press/Leg Ext./Split Squat/Even back squat 2-3x10-12
Leg Curl (can do RDL again if you want) 2-3x10-12 (or reduce volume to 1-2 if doing ATG back squats or deep leg press, I'm assuming split squats will be quad dominant)
Calf work
Abs/lower back work

Upper you can set up something like this:
Snatch: Doubles or whatever
Bench Press 3-4x6-8
Row 3-4x6-8
Incline Bench/Shoulder press 2-3x10-12
Pulldown/Chinup/Pullup 2-3x10-12

you can switch the order of the first 2 and last 2 (as well as rep range), also feel free to replace any 3-4x6-8 with 5x5. This may be better for an Oly lifting focus:

Press 5x5
Chin/Pulldown 3-4x6-8
Bench/Incline Bench 2-3x10-12
Row 2-3x10-12

You can also toss in an isolation move or two after those compounds for the side delt, rear delt, and upper chest.

Also, you do arm work at the end of upper body. Biceps/Triceps 2-3x10-12 or 1-2x12-15

layout is xLUxLUx

Also, once you've got the groove of the competition lifts, you can (and it may be wise) to only do the full lifts on the first 2 days of the week, and replace them with power variants or something on the other 2 days.

This is just a variant of Lyle McDonald's generic bulking routine for oly lifting (he advocates this).

If you actually want to do this read his stuff on the routine beforehand, specifically about the deload/runup.

You could also do 5/3/1, which is a lower/upper split. Set it up the same way with the competition lifts. Clean+Jerk and variants on lower day, Snatch and variants on upper body day.

cheers

>>35399805
>>35400008
>>35400052
I mean aesthetic like amateur bodybuilder with symmetry.
Not manlet with good back aesthetic.

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>>35400134
this program has lu in its name so you know its going to make your lifts fuckin bomb mate

Hey /owg/. I'm not into oly lifting, just general strength training. For various reasons I decided to switch from low bar squat to high bar squat. I worked on my mobility really well in order to comfortably hit ATG if needed, at least in oly shoes. What I can't figure out is where to put the bar on my back. The shelf in the low bar squat is really easy to find after the first couple of times and the bar stays secure but I can't find the shelf on top of my traps (and they 're definitely not underdeveloped). I went to do some test sets today, My shoulders were right beneath the bar but the bar kept rolling up and down especially in the hole. Also my wrists were killing my, they were obviously supporting the weight while they shouldn't be. How do I find the proper spot?

>>35400134
>all that shit to try to look good
You're fucking with your training when you could just focus the extra energy/time doing the fucking classics and variations.

>>35400470
>Hey /owg/. I'm not into oly lifting
Go.

Put the bar on your traps. Puff your chest out, shrug your shoulders, and put the bar on your traps

>>35400636
I don't disagree. But if his #1 goal is aesthetics and he just wants to do the quick lifts for fun and as a side goal/hobby whatever, why devote all your training to hem, and not to getting bigger muscles?

It's just essentially a BBing routine with Oly lifts thrown in.

>>35400730
doing the classics with shit form forfun is a one way trip to snab citty

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>>35400730
If his number one goal is aesthetics, then just stick to a bb routine. I mean, personally a bb physique doesnt look too aesthetic to me. Pic related is what I consider aesthetic, and thats what you get from weightlifting fulltime.

But he'd get better results sticking to one discipline

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>>35398560
>>35398927
Go to reddit if you want inferior bland discussions. They ban waifus so you can post in the fag hugbox you've always wanted.

I'll stay here to post Mattie and all my waifus I feel deserve to be posted.

>>35400949
post more kishrina please

>>35400743
Learn proper form.
I don't see the issue. Might as well not even lift if you aren't going to dedicate your life to it because lifting for fun with improper form is snap city bro.

>>35400859
I agree, specialization is key. If you want to be very good at Oly lifting, training to also be good at running marathons is going to be a detriment. If you want have a huge upper body, training legs heavy is gonna be detrimental to.

But not everybody wants to just work towards one thing. Some people just want to do shit as a hobby.

And I don't personally believe Oly lifting is ideal for aesthetics or will even give you any aesthetic gains. Plenty of lower tier Oly lifters are skinny twink boi bitches. Plus I think the physique that Oly lifting gives is mainly due to the muscles it focuses on, which you can achieve doing bodybuilding. Smaller chest (but a relatively well developed upper chest), big delts, big back, strong core, big legs is the physique, often augmented with steroids, plus Oly lifters usually maintain very low bodyfat (many use thermogenic drugs like clen)

long story short don't be natty

>>35401008
>And I don't personally believe Oly lifting is ideal for aesthetics or will even give you any aesthetic gains. Plenty of lower tier Oly lifters are skinny twink boi bitches. Plus I think the physique that Oly lifting gives is mainly due to the muscles it focuses on, which you can achieve doing bodybuilding. Smaller chest (but a relatively well developed upper chest), big delts, big back, strong core, big legs is the physique, often augmented with steroids, plus Oly lifters usually maintain very low bodyfat (many use thermogenic drugs like clen)
>long story short don't be natty

If you actually weightlifted you'd understand what you were talking about.

>>35401040
explain it then nigger

and the don't be natty thing was a joke

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>>35400983
I would but she doesn't post much, and half of her instagram photos aren't of herself.

>>35401049
You don't need to use a drug like clen to cut. The amount of work you put in training is enough. You could easily burn 1500-2000calories training a day.

>well developed upper chest
Only a retard with no understanding of physiology says this. There is no "upper chest" and lower chest to isolate.

>often augmented with steroids
Depends on the lifter, but most of the time the anabolic effects of on muscles go unnoticed simply because a weightlifter has to maintain weight. The steroids they use are for recovery and ligament strength and recovery majorly.

You can have the physique of a weightlifter natty, but it's the strength that may be unnatural.

You sound like you've never weightlifted in your life before. I hate when people just talk out their ass.

>>35401040
>many use thermogenic drugs like clen
With the intensity of training at high levels , they'd probably die if they took any thermogenic drugs.

>>35401084
>I hate when people just talk out their ass.

>The steroids they use are for recovery and ligament strength

>>35401084
I was just mentioning the drug stuff.

I never said you need clen to cut. However, it seems as if many weight lifters stay very lean year round, which I do not believe is possible natty. There's drugs being used.

As for the upper chest, Google the "clavicular head".

You might as well say there is no inner and outer quadriceps. It's just not true. The clavicular head functions as a shoulder flexor FYI. Plus there can be some neurological things going on.

and
>>35401101
^this

"Yeah sir I just take the roids to keep my joints healthy sir.. heheh.. it's not like it helps me get stronger and be able to recover heavier cleans or anything!"

>>35401114

>>35401101
Retards, majorly is at the end of that sentence. As in, one of the main benefits of PED usage is to avoid injury and put in more work than anyone natty. Obviously they have androgeneic effects. That's how I know you dont lift.

>>35401114
Yeah the isolate that upper chest brah :^)

>>35401114
>it seems as if many weight lifters stay very lean year round, which I do not believe is possible natty
>weightlifters burn around 1500-2000kcal a day


Where are you guys coming from btw? misc? some zyzz worship forum? Just leave. You dont know what you're talking about.

>>35401194
So what if they're new? Why do you feel the need to attack anyone who doesn't meet some arbitrary standard of knowledge only you follow?

It's people like you who are killing /owg/.

>>35401228
I don't have a problem with people who are new and eager to learn. I have a problem who are new and think they understand everything about the sport immediately. Who've never trained long and hard enough to smell like both acetone and ammonia. Who don't even know the basics of tech.

I'm all for people willing to learnt though, just dont spout bullshit, thats it.

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Is Okulov aesthetic?

>>35398604
lol shamefur dispray of chineez techuniqu

how 2 gain mobility for proper handplacement on front squats?

>>35401526
No Manlet is aesthetic brah

>>35401526
looks like a poor mans klokov so id say yes

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>>35401821
Why do people call the Chinese aesthetic? They don't have good lifters over 5'8"

>>35398927
>>35398979
wow leave any time now

>>35401851
Cuz ur fag

I've been doing alot of thinking/reading about diet

Thinking of cuttig down on carbs a bit, as I've read they can contribute to joint inflammation

Anyone have any advice on macros for weightlifting?

>>35400152
>Symmetry

wtf, this isn't the special olympics where lifters can only use one arm and leg during the lifts. How are these oly lifters not symmetrical?

>>35381097
nope ur a faggot.

>muh humbleness

>>35394337
higher than yours....

Is a 300 Sinclair good?

>>35395633
he's so lost there's no point in even trying without a coach

>>35396040
That's not really the bad part. It's the volume along with possible injuries that gets you. but it aint that bad. just dont divebomb your squats. if clarebear can come back from crippling tendonitis and squat 260 pauses 5x5 you can squat your shitty 150 kg

>>35402633
Why are you so mean?

Relative to your strength your not a great lifter yet you love to dig people out for having 'shit lifts' all the time

>>35388741
50kg plates of that thickness exist, PL plates are thin as shit. You could easily use them in training..

>>35400715
> Go.

Sorry for intruding, but seemed more appropriate to ask people who are proficient at high bar squats a question regarding them.

> shrug your shoulders
Ah, I thought you were supposed to keep your scapulas retracted and depressed, like in a bench press setup or a low bar squat.

What about the arms? Do you just grab the bar lightly, just to keep balance while it's resting on your traps? Or do you actively pull the bar towards the ground to create upper back tightness?

>>35398927
Why do people like you have that mentality?

>this thread should only suit my interests and only my interests

If you don't like what you are seeing, hide those comments or just ignore them like the rest of us do. It's not that fucking difficult to ignore the shit, and look for the gold.

>>35394337
Clarence did a 340 total at 87kg bw and hes way stronger now, he snatches what he opened his c&j at

>>35401194
i think it's that you burn around 1500-2000 per weightlifting session/ but i agree that staying lean all year long isn't hard.

>>35402657
It's expensive enough as it is to kit out a training hall without adding pl plates to every platform

>>35402505
it's okay. It should just barely get you into nationals.

>>35402655
people already know the answers to their own questions but they want someone to hold their hand, so i like to be a little mean.

>>35402681
Yeah, meant per session.

>>35402707
That's fair. I was mean just them. I'm sorry. I just had to work and the gym is closed so I didn't train and I'm unhappy about how shit I am at this sport.

You're an alright guy

>>35402239
Fuck no. Cut carbs for a few days and smelt like an ammonia factory. Body starts resorting to breaking down muscle so fast the byproducts go through your pores

>>35402757
I wouldn't cut them out, just less pasta and white rice and bread and more potato's and stuff

>>35402777
I wouldn't bother unless it's affecting your ability to eat more protein

>>35399698
do you even Dimitry Klokov?

Anyone competing this year?

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>>35403028
What if you want to be better than Klokov?

>>35403380
pretty much everyone here competes.

>>35403818
Maybe if you worked harder you'd be better

>>35403978
Stop attacking durkz.

>>35400008
whos the other guy beside tian tao in that webm

>>35404010
Lu xiaojun

>>35404026
that tiny ass guy is not lu

>>35404091
Yeah it is

>>35403580
If only Ilya would follow the Chinese method of doing bodybuilding and take more drugs so he'd become a lean or even shredded 105kg or maybe 105+

>>35404010
Ding Jianjun IIRC

>>35404010
Ding Jianjun. 62kg

>>35404118
He doesn't need to. His training and body weight is optimal for him. Not everything is about
>Aesthetics brah
>impressing and fucking bitches

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>>35404152
>Not everything is about >Aesthetics brah >impressing and fucking bitches

>>35404140
>>35404145
thanks

is it possible to be 6'3" and eventually look like a aesthetic chinese oly lifter

Is the YouTube 'yoga for weightlifters' decent? I really struggle with mobility and I don't feel happy putting my own routine together, if I follow along to this every night will it serve me well?

>>35404285
Honestly, probably not.
Def not natty.

>Hit a new PR for snatch triple
>get sick for a week
>back in the gym
>barely hit the same weight for a single

Ho-hum

>>35404288
Give it a shot. Never know until you try. If it doesn't work you've learned something new

>>35404294
>1 week of illness is enough to lose gains
No

>>35404294
>>35404309
It's not but especially as a beginner if you go in feeling 'rusty' its not unlikely to only hit a single of your best triple, infact on a rough day that's not unlikely for anyone really

I wouldn't sweat it, you've done it, its there, just need to get back in the groove

>>35404309

I lost 3kg in body weight. This wasn't "boo-hoo i have a cold", i was alternatively bed-ridden and toilet-ridden.

>>35404407

Yeah, from the very first lift i was like "oh, so it's one of THOSE days". I've only been lifting 8 months so i know consistency will come eventually.

>>35401084
>>35401040

As far as maintaining lower body fat, my own experience has been that I just cannot put weight on when I'm intensively training the classics. When I first started lifting I dropped about 20lbs in just over a month. And this was after having put on close to 60lbs of lean body mass over the previous 5 years. It was alarming at the time, but I hadn't realized yet how 'energy intensive' weightlifting actually was.

I'm the same height as Ilya and honestly I have no idea how he is able to maintain his weight class, and even repeatedly GO UP and remain competitive. Even with drug supplementation, he has to be eating non-stop.

quadlet here
squat 133kg deadlift 190kg for reference

im stuck snatching 50kg. I think that my technique is limiting me because I tried 80kg snatch pulsl and I can get it up as high as my chest several times. Didnt try more weight

what do you guys think

>>35402427

Higher than yours, too, faggot. And you're actually in his weight class.

>>35404519

Post vid

Probably not finishing the pull properly on full snatch

>>35404502
bet you eat below 3600 calories or some babby shit

>>35404533
I didnt record it, will next session

how much do you think I should be able to snatch though

Guys, serious question:

Do you actively shrug your shoulders UP during a high bar back squat? I've kept them depressed so far and my back has been sufficiently tight. But since progressing into the low 100s for weight it feels like I'm pinching some nerves under my traps with this technique.

>>35404535

Nope. I can put away ~4000 calories/day.

I can snatch high pull 100kg for 3.
Think I can full snatch 112kg?

>>35404610

You don't. I strained my neck doing just that.

Retract your scapula. 'Squeeze them together'. This creates the shelf you need.

>>35404637

Only one way to find out, isn't there?

>>35404598

In Everett's book he says back squat should be 135% of CJ, or CJ should be 74% of CJ. Snatch should be 80% of CJ.

Don't treat those as goals though.

>>35404662
Thanks.

Anyone have an idea what could be causing strained / impinged muscles/nerves between my shoulders up to my neck?

>>35404686

That's obviously CJ should be 74% of back squat...

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>>35404630
then eat more. 4000 calories cant be that hard for you to get in

ilya got nice and chunky big guy btw when he went 105kg. he lost it quickly of course

this isnt difficult baka

>>35404744

I'm not trying to compete as a 105. I was adding my own experience with weight loss as anecdotal evidence that thermogenic drugs are not necessary to maintain low body fat while weightlifting.

>>35404718

Where is the bar resting on your traps? It should rest below your C7 process (that big jutting bone at the base of your neck) on the of your upper traps.

If your weight is shifting at any point during the lift, the bar will follow the path of least resistance, and it might be pressing or rubbing against any and all sorts of things. That is a very nerve dense region of the body.

>>35404744
What foods would you go to get a high amount of calories like that?

>>35404964
The bar is at C7 level or a little higher when i flex the traps due to shoulder retraction.

>>35405122
Ok I just practiced bar position. Seems like i tend to push that C7 in kinda horizontally. Maybe I need to work on shoulder retraction to keep the bar away from my spine.

>>35405165
Someone make a new thread

>>35405079
>4000
>high

>>35405298
how abot u

>>35405342
Mobile

New Bread

>>35405398

>>35405398

>>35405398

>>35396775
Aren't you supposed to keep your arms straight until you begin triple extension?

>>35401114
>However, it seems as if many weight lifters stay very lean year round, which I do not believe is possible natty.
I see that you're an armchair fitness expert who was never an athlete of any kind. It's time to stop posting.