hi /fit/ Don't usually post here, but I'm wondering

>>34967941
The shape of his head is just hysterical. I can't stop giggling every time I see it.

>>34967941
Looks like shit. He is the vegan blaha

>>34967956
Right, but do you like him? can you see where he's coming from? is he just another aspie goober faggot? etc.

looks like hes had a head transplant

i like how his skin is green in all of his photos and videos, either way his body is disgusting in a way that his muscles look like random chunks under his skin, his face is annoying and just asking for a punch

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>>34967941
We voted for who the new king of /fit/ should be. He won in a landslide.

Hail to the king, Mr. Gains!

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>>34967941
He really is a great example of being a vegan while lifting and on roids.

He looks shit.

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>>34968063
>Throws around fraud accusations
>Posts image of "natty" Scooby

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>>34968082
>Doesn't question the wanting him as a gf part

>>34967941
he is a nobody and dont care and far from fit hero.
wannabe.

>>34968103
>Expects people to address every stupid thing in his stupid image
Bottom line: Mr. Gains is the only man in that pic NOT on anything. Kek.

>>34968134
Thank you for setting me straight with all dem facts.

To be honest family I always wondered if he was on roids, but now you've told me the truth I feel much better :)

This community is even better than reddit. Let me just upvote your post senpai.

>>34968170
Bro, scooby is on trt. It's hard to accept I know.

>>34968170
>This community is even better than reddit. Let me just upvote your post senpai.

10/10 time to abandon thread

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>>34968201
>Man with real gains
>"grr he must be on trt >:("

>>34967941

This is a shop, right? What the fuck is up with his arms?

>>34968222
They're bigger than yours because he works out.

>>34968201
Who care if he is or isn't? I love scoobs he spreads a positively oh so fabulous vibe. I'm pretty sure I could point out flaws in VG's stuff as well as scoobs.

If you like vegan gainz, well that's your opinion and opinions are like farts. Relish your own, but hate everyone else.

Besides there are better people to get nutritional info from than both scoobs or VG (i.e. Lyle McDonald or Alan Aragon)

>>34968251
I don't relish my own farts though. If I do a really bad one, which is quite often I have to leave the room for like 5min while it airs out. The whole thing is so counter-productive I never get anything done!!

Tom

>>34968264
mfw I am high as fuck right now and I wrote that half-thinking I was writing a work email, hence signing off with my name. Where the fuck am I?

>>34968264
>I don't relish my own farts though
Really? Madness!

>>34968270
>mfw I am high as fuck right now and I wrote that half-thinking I was writing a work email, hence signing off with my name. Where the fuck am I?

I shit myself, my name is Tom also.

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>>34967941

He acts like whining youngster, who cant go fazed at every accusation.

No, I don't like him.

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>>34968251
>Lyle McDonald
You had me up till here. Tipped your hand prematurely, troll friend.

>>34968315
What's wrong with McDouchebag?

He's a cunt, his stuff is legit as far as I can tell.

I don't like him, he seems annoying.

https://youtu.be/pn8Rd3efEqk

>>34968246

They aren't, and they look hilarious.

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>>34968585
Sure, whatever you say.

>>34969676
What's this guy's story again?

>>34969676

That dude has nasty insertions and you know it.

>>34967975
what the fuck do you think? he called him blaha. blaha is a fucking joke here

Fuckable body.

Im a guy btw

>>34967941
hes very insecure and inmature, no wonder he has 100ksub, oh and hes a little bitch

>>34969982
Rip made a bullshit claim that his program can put on some retarded amount of muscle on anyone regularly.
He posted this ONE KID who looks like he just got fat as fuck.
As it turns out the kid did put on a lot of muscle but to the guys who he tried to convince to get on the program and get comic book hero swole he looked garbage.
Dudes life was ruined and he completely dropped off the map and rippletoe was called on it and never brought up that claim again.

Dude just got fat and can't get rid of it because someone found his facebook and he's still fat and the muscle is not as pronounced.
Not even sure if he lifts anymore.

>>34968246
I'm sorry but those muscles look pretty deform to me.
He should do less toning and more flexing.
Like climbing trees or swimming.

does anyone know his stats? height, weight, squat, deadlift?

>>34967941
Looks green and shitty. Has also been shown to be a pussy who won't stand up for the shit he says irl.

>>34970117
He's 5ft 5. Unsure of the rest though

Why does he look so strange

I mean, if you don't eat meat but you eat everything that would be in meat like taking iron supplements and all that shit, how is that any different than actually eating meat?
It obviously affects him but I don't see how

>>34970165

I think that pic was taken back when he still ate meat. He's always looked like that. Shit genes and shitty unbalanced training.

Honestly I hate the vegan shit he try's to shill. I love how he btfo these stupid YouTube celebs who think they hot shit. Like that one faggot who says he gained like 50 pounds of muscle in a couple of months. Then wants to sue him for defamation? What a cock.

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>>34970156
Try 6'3, 180 lb

Fucking BASED manmore. What a Chad.

>>34970301
>"leave, seriously"
>flexes to the camera instead
>doesn't apologize to manlet-gf

>>34970108
Rip as in Rippetoe?

Also
>can't get rid of the fat
What a pussy. Eat less and lift more.

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>>34970336
>"Apologize to her."
>"No."
>Manlet fights back tears.

>>34970441
honestly,if he threw a punch faggotgains wouldve probably sued

>>34970537
I do suspect Lex would've gone to jail and been painted as the bad guy, bully, et cetera.

>>34968063
Everytime I feel bad about my super long face and long neck I convince myself that once I'll be fit it won't be so noticeable.

Then I always see some picture of scooby and feel bad again

>>34968270
DUDE WEED LMAO!

>>34967941

Based on the way he talks, I'm pretty sure his brain is mildly fucked up in some way. If he's acting, he's fooled me. But I'm pretty sure he isn't.

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>>34970301
>flexes arm
>still smaller than the unflexed arm of someone who actually lifts

y dis nigga yellow?

Are there any vids of him actually lifting weights? Not just curling dumbells.

>>34967941
Don't racemix

>>34969982
He made full natty gains in the name of our Lord and savior, scoobs.

>>34971564
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A3z-hMOpfA
I think this was his last workout video. It's pretty old.

>>34967941

This guy is a disgrace to vegans, bodybuilders, cyclists, niggers and the human race in general.

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>>34972058
>niggers and the human race in general.
>Implying niggers are human
>Implying VG is a nigger

>>34967941
How is he so green looking in his photo? Is this photoshop?

>>34968063

He's the only natty one in the picture though.

>>34970336

I saw the dwarf's video about this incident.

He's like. Nah I wasn't upset and was never going to get violent, but I did say get out or I'll make you.

>>34971844
>thumbnail is curling barbell
kek

>>34968215
He is on trt tho. He's doing the superior version of Arnie roiding. Arnie started too early imo and stopped too early. Guy still looks good for his age tho

I'm 100% he has some kind of serious mental disorder Either sociopathic or bipolar or BPD

how do vegans protein?

inb4 match a pound of lentils with half a pound of oats to get a little complete protein a fraction of which you will hopefully be able to digest (fingers crossed)

>>34967941
Why is he green does veganism do that?

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>>34972677
>The old incomplete proteins meme
>Le hurr durr protein is so important meme
So passe at this point, anon.

Let me show you a guy who ate 50g of protein a day. Tom Platz.

>>34972663
>Either sociopathic or bipolar or BPD
I sort of understand why you say the last two but he's definitely not. Maybe he's sociopathic or something like that. He's definitely a misanthrope, but I get that impression about most /fit/ youtube personalities.

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>>34972197
Pro-tip he's not originally from this planet.
Ever wonder why he always says he hates all "humans"?

>>34972684
I would guess it's like how carotene turns you orangey. Lots of pigments from food can end up in your tissues. Like a lot of them even improve night vision somewhat because some pigments end up in the retina.

>>34972677
>how do vegans protein?
How do gorillas protein? Veggies are low cal and protein dense so just eat like a garden or two.

>>34972707
loltroll

his physique is truly horrid.

>>34972745
>>34972745
>Western lowland gorilla (Gorilla gorilla gorilla):
>This subspecies consumes parts of at least 97 plant species. About 67% of their diet is fruit, 17% is leaves, seeds and stems and 3% is termites and caterpillars.

> An adult male gorilla may consume more than 18 kg (40 lb) of vegetation per day.

literally a garden, but even they get 3% quality protein

>>34972746
Not trolling. All of this protein meme bullshit has been discredited for years. But you silly bastards keep listening to the bro scientists with 'muh proteins' rhetoric.

The human body, natty or not, is very incapable of assimilating protein into muscle mass. The overwhelming majority of protein people on high protein diets eat goes to waste either by being broken down and flushed out through the kidneys or stored as fat.

One thing the body is good at is picking and choosing amino acids from "incomplete" protein sources like vegetables. As long as you eat a wide array of foods, your body gets what it needs to thrive even though you're eating "low" protein.

His body looks like shit

His head looks like shit

His face looks like shit

His voice sounds like shit


It took him 6 years.

>>34972716
he's definitely using this veganism thing to hide his whatever problems. Maybe he thinks his genetics and mental disorder are due to his ancestors that ate meat. he's definitely delusional

>>34972867
Edit: I meant to say "not very capable" at assimilating protein.

Obviously we wouldn't exist if it were incapable of assimilating protein into lean tissue.

>>34970108
Zach looked fine after losing some lard. All the old 5x5 style programs have you putting on a lot of mass to later chisel away the fat later, it's how Arnie started even.

>>34972867
>Le you can't digest all that protein meme
fuck off with your mom science

>>34972839
>but even they get 3% quality protein
Depends on the time of year. When plants are fruiting they'll get lots of carbs from the fruits and what have you and not so much protein. Outside of this the diet is predominantly leaves and shit, which while being predominantly fibre is predominantly protein out of what we primates can actually digest.

>>34972900


A quote from Dr. Ellington Darden on the subject of protein:

" In 1970, I had a story to tell. After being a competitive athlete and bodybuilder for 20 years, and after consuming tons of expensive nutrient pills, I clearly saw that most of the money I spent on food supplements was wasted. I realized this as a result of being challenged in my nutritional practices by Dr. Harold Schendel Professor in the Food and Nutrition Department at Florida State University. Here′s what happened.

For two months, I kept precise records of my dietary intake, of my energy expenditure, and of my general well-being. All my urine was collected and analyzed by a graduate research team in nutrition science.

Believe me, it was a real inconvenience to have to pee in a large brown bottle, which I carried around with me all day long in a paper sack. It was even more tedious to test my urine scientifically for various vitamins, minerals, and protein content.

But I figured it would be worth it. Once and for all I′d be able to prove to the doubting scientists of nutrition that most athletes require massive amounts of essential nutrients.

Boy, was I wrong!

(continued...)

>>34967941
Why is he so green?

Do you guys purposefully Photoshop him to be green?

>>34972900
>>34972938
(cont.)

The results of the study showed that my body was sloughing off, or excreting, large amounts of water soluble vitamins, proteins, and other nutrients. Worse than that, it was also determined that since I had been consuming massive doses for many years, I had forced my liver and kidneys to grow excessively large to handle the influx of all these nutrients. You may desire your muscles to grow excessively large, but you don′t want this to happen to your liver and kidneys. Physicians say that doing so can lead to several medical complications and eventually shorten your life span.

Anyway, after studying and understanding the implications of what I was doing to the insides of my body, I made a complete turnaround. I wanted to tell my story to other athletes like me. I wanted to get the word out especially to bodybuilders and weightlifters-who read the muscle magazines and flashy advertisements-and purchased the recommended food supplements and gobbled them down.

Protein Requirements

The biggest misconception 20 years ago, and still the biggest misconception today, is the belief that heavy weight training requires massive dietary protein intake.

When my urine was analyzed at Flordia State University in 1970, I was consuming 380 grams of protein per day. Approximately half of the protein came from a 90 percent protein powder.

Why did I consume so much protein? Because I had read repeatedly in muscle magazines that that′s what all the champions ate: from 300-400 grams of protein a day.

Yet, Dr. Schendel kept tellin me that the RDA for protein is .36 grams per pund of bodyweight. Thus, at that time at a body weight of 215lbs., my protein requirement was 77 grams per day.

The results of the study proved that Dr. Schendel was right, and that RDA was accurate. Most of the protein I was eating was being broken down and excreted through my kidneys."

http://www.highintensity.net/Forums/ViewTopic.asp?topic_id=1235

I just can't put my finger on it. Even when he's calling out people on youtube, talking about killing babies, confronting Lex, saying all kinds of horrible shit. Every time I see him and hear him talk he just seems like an overcompensating pussy.

>>34972950
>I had forced my liver and kidneys to grow excessively large
Mirin hypertrophy

>>34972970
It's like people don't want their organs to leave humanity behind.

>>34967948
Such a cute lil' peanut lookin faggot

>>34967941
Looks malnourished af

>>34972950
>Most of the protein I was eating was being broken down and excreted through my kidneys."

why would his body do it, protein is energy, the body burns the excess as fuel

it sounds like a text from a full retard with very little understanding of what actually happened

>>34973063
He was also eating other food as well.
Meaning the body will use the foods that are easier to break down for energy and store and ones that are needed to refill certain energy systems and rebuild before it would even consider the desperate last ditch effort that is breaking down dietary protein for energy.

The dietary protein was mostly shat/pissed out without being touched.

>>34970301
So what's the story behind this?

>>34973096
are you fucking retarded?

your body burns protein you eat all day, if you take whey powder or eat a chicken breast without a ton of greens you'll actually get an insulin spike

>>34973063
>Reads of study conducted by Ellington Darden, PhD
>"Guy sounds full retard!"
Do you even know who Dr. Darden is, brainless high school cancerfag?

>>34970380
Yeah, rippetoe. Who else.
Anyway, that fat sack of monkey spunk ripptoe is still sporting a spare tire even though he supposedly lifts everyday and is on grams?

Yeah, no. Kid is a fucktard who just listened to rippetoe went full on binge and gomad put on the muscle and couldn't and probably will never lose the weight.
Why? Cause those fucking fat cells are permanent. They aren't going anywhere.
That and he's not on gear...supposedly.

So instant weight loss without losing a lot o' mass is not happening.
He'd be slightly bigger then he was before he put on all of that mass but he'll never be what you'd consider cut or skinny.

That's okay cause it's ways healthier, but the idea that a bulk and cut is that simple for a natural when the guys who say to do it are all on gear is utter bullshit.

>>34973063
>protein is energy, the body burns the excess as fuel
No. Protein is not an efficient source of energy, our capacity to get energy from it is limited too. We do need a certain amount of protein just for like maintenance, but there are mechanisms the body uses to recycle old proteins when times are lean. When protein intake is high tho the body stops prioritising salvaging proteins and just lets them go through p much.

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>>34973130
Please be a troll. I can't live with the knowledge that people as dumb as you actually exist and post "advice" on /fit/.

Read the text again, shithead. You think your body is burning up 380g of protein a day as fuel in addition to the carbs and fat you eat on top of it?

>>34973141
>Reads of study
yeah, first of all, that was some ancient study from the stone age of science, and whoever wrote that bullshit text is not a fucking phd

but you can keep eating dogshit per "pund(sic) of bodyweight" I don't care

>>34973166
>>34973159
>>34973141
stop shitposting, retard

you're ignorant and that's that.

>>34973145
>those fucking fat cells are permanent?

Are you dense? Just eat less and lift more, and you lose weight. Who cares who is on roids?

>>34973130
The insulin spike is mostly from the leucine in whey and is somewhat paradoxical. Leucine cannot be turned into glucose yet it produces a big insulin spike like sugar would

>>34973130
Your body will burn your fucking muscle before it burns dietary protein you fucking idiot.
It's the most inefficient energy source we consume. It's more inefficient then fucking alcohol.
It will burn sugar, fat, alcohol, THEN protein in that order.

And what whey protein are you talking about? I'm curious.

>>34973173
Is this the same guy who thinks squats and deads will cripple you and raising your arm even slightly will impinge your shoulder?

Either way, what made you think to start visiting /fit/?

>>34973180
It's one of the reasons why artificial sweetner is horrible for us.
It produces insuln spikes worse then just regular cane sugar and has horrible effects on the body. I

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>>34973190
>energy source
>inefficient

there's a huge net energy gain from burning protein you eat

>>34971372
He is a sociopath, he admits it in an interview. His advice is primary on veganism. He do cites a lot of relevant studies in his videos and I respect that.

>>34973206
Depends on the sweetener. Iirc aspartame does what you say, monkfruit and stevia seem to make us more insulin sensitive, xylitol I forget about.

>>34973063
as you may or may not know protein contains amino acids. witch contain nitrogen.

If you metabolise them you would get ammonia (NH3) witch is toxic. So in order to keep you alive your liver processes the NH3 to Urea, witch is then peed out.

If you eat more protein your liver needs to work more and gets bigger.

>>34973145
>those fucking fat cells are permanent
There is no research out there that supports this or that you could misread amd think it does. There's some research that says fat cell numbers are roughly maintained from end of puberty throughout adulthood. All this means is that you roughly stay at the same amount of fat mass in general. If you lose weight and keep it off you end up with less and the opposite is also true.

>>34973225
No there isn't.

Fat has nine grams of energy and can be stored easily and powers high endurance low energy efforts

Carbs has 4 grams of energy and can be stored even easier then fat and powers all high energy hight output and strength endurance activities


Protein powers fuck all.
It is there to rebuild body tissue and breaking it down for energy when there is no other energy source is an inefficient costly process.

The body will tap into stored fat and muscle tissue before it breaks down dietary protein.


As a matter of fact, when you eat(correct me if I'm wrong, we're all on /fit/ to learn new shit)your body uses the quickly broken down stuff first to power and repair itself while just pissing/shitting/sweating and breathing out the excess.
Your cravings for certain foods you've eaten before, and to an extent your mood, is your body saying that it has an deficiency and wants to consume some type of food to fix that shit.
...
That's beside the point.

High doses of protein as a natural is useless and simply a waste of money.

A total non existent chest and no legs at all and forearms of a 10yr old boy and too boot he's fucking crazier then a bag of cats.

>>34973328
>Fat has nine grams of energy
>Carbs has 4 grams of energy
lol i'm fucking done with this board for today

>>34973341
He meant to say a gram of fat/carbs has x calories of energy.

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Even if you don't like his veganism stuff, he exposes a LOT of people's bullshit in his worst of the fitness industry series.

>List of People BTFO
>Ben Pakulski
>Mike Change
>Blogilates
>Simeon Panda
>Ulisses Jr.

And a bunch more, so in my opinion, he's doing a good service to the fitness industry whether or not you follow his vegan advice

Fatcells naturally and quickly dissappear only during puberty and adolescence. After that shit is basically permanent. Any new fatcells created in late adolescence and beyond are basically permanent.

I have read that fatcells created during that time can dissapear after a while, however those fatcells will have to be starved for energy for years for this to happen. But I haven't done any deep digging.

However if that is truen, then they are virtually permanent. MEANING that the problem of fatcells that are created by this being around for a while is still a damned problem.

And not many, almost no naturals have any idea of how to bulk AND successfully cut without drugs.

If they were listening to gear heads and a fat power lifter who thinks they should get fat as fuck then they damn sure have no concept as to how to do it and maintain what muscle mass they got or do it at all.

Bulk and Cut is fucking stupid for a normal non lifter who just wants to put on a bit of muscle mass.

>>34973357
It's obvious that they are looking for a reason to bow out of this conversation and are using that simple mistake as an excuse.

>>34968022
>his face is annoying and just asking for a punch
This.
I like his videos and hes making me consider going vegan
But damn I wanna deck his mickey mouse looking face someimes

>>34973462
>Any new fatcells created in late adolescence and beyond are basically permanent.
Post the research you've got this from bro.

>>34967975
I like that he stands for something and is a bit insane, but he can be cringy.
Entertaining though.

>>34973462
>It's obvious that they are looking for a reason to bow out of this conversation and are using that simple mistake as an excuse.

Well, that's the nature of /fit/. As near as I can tell I owned this shithead >>34972900 with my posts he couldn't begin to refute and then he bowed out with >>34972970.

It's kind of a recurring theme.

>I'm going to babble like a moron, just completely talking out of my ass. Bro science meets actual autism. No need for references of any kind.
>Oh, wait, real science? I'm btfo?
>Uh, something sarcastic. Yeah! I was just trolling all along. You guys are nerds for taking this so seriously.

>>34972939
He looks green in certainly lighting.
Some mixed white/black people look like that.

It is funny to think he looks green because he's an alien who eats nothing but leaves though.
But vegan diets are perfectly fine as long as the person isn't an idiot.

>>34973504
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18454136
That shit is permanent folks.
Even scooping it out with liposuction is only a temporary fix.
Why?
Cause the body will create new fatcells to replace them.

Give me a minute to research the fat cell destruction thing. I'm actually interested now.

>>34973527
>and then he bowed out with >>34972970 (You) #.
I'm a different anon, I just saw the opportunity for a stupid joke. Been arguing with the same guy as you too itt.

>>34973571
I see, I see. I guess the original idiot/troll is either still here and responsible for the shitposts or left without saying anything as a new idiot took his place. I don't fucking know anymore. This shit gets confusing sometimes.

>>34967941
Nigga genetics + vegan= sub par build

>>34967941
he claims to know his shit about nutrition and veganism and i don't doubt that, but he's hardly a bodybuilding inspiration for veganism. his physique is pathetic.

>>34973555
>However, the number of fat cells stays constant in adulthood in lean and obese individuals, even after marked weight loss, indicating that the number of adipocytes is set during childhood and adolescence.
This says it doesn't ever increase or decrease tho. Now you can take your particular interpretation, but imo when I consider that catching certain illnesses, certain stressor and certain changes in diet can increase or decrease adipogenesis (so replacement of fat cells in cell turnover p much, with a decrease leading to fewer cells overall and an increase to more), I'd say the underlying reason for the lack of change is down to lack of long term lifestyle changes.


That aside, it still doesn't say an increase in fat mass increases fat cell number permanently

Who is this guy and why the fuck is he green?

>>34973698
He's always angry

>>34967941
clownesk

>>34972677
>Generally, proteins derived from animal foods (meats, fish, poultry, milk, eggs) are complete.[1] Proteins derived from plant foods (legumes, seeds, grains, and vegetables) can be complete as well (examples include chickpeas,[10] black beans,[11] pumpkin seeds,[12] cashews,[13] cauliflower,[14] quinoa,[15] pistachios,[16] turnip greens,[17] black-eyed peas,[18] Kasha, and soy[19]).

From wikipedia so take that as you may