Is being skinny more attractive than being muscular? Told a few

If ur gay there will be alot of people into skinny guy. For girls, nah

If you're a little child (under 25) probably

>>8536161
lifting will make you look better in clothes and give you a better posture, do it.

Skinny is more /fa/

Muscular is more attractive

>>8536177
so bulk up? Also how do you bulk up if it's nearly impossible for you to gain weight.

>>8536191
what's the point of being more /fa/?

>>8536191
this dichotomy is retarded. lifting wont make you huge or unable to fit into clothes unless you train specifically for that purpose

>>8536161
It takes so much time and effort to gain muscle that you should just do it OP. Going ottermode isn't going to kill your fits

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I'm about 9 stone usually 8 stone and started this 2 days ago.
Started with week 2, doing day 5 tomorrow. Idk if I should fuck the relax days.

Gotta lower that bf%. All you need is cardio and bodyweight to be reasonably /fa/.

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>>8536192
You're not eating enough. Eat until you feel like puking then eat more.

The whole skinny look is unattractive to all girls

You can make it if you try

/fa/ - alternative teenagers

Ryan Gosling is /fit/ and /fa/, my man crush.

>>8536226
Relax on the relax days, if it's too easy for you on the day you do it then double the session.
Unless you were actually a couch potato the first five weeks are too easy. You should do bodyweight/stretches on the off days

I think skinny is better since they don't waste as much time in the gym or in the kitchen. Just come home and cuddle ;3

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>>8536313
This is quite an old pic but you get the idea, definitely not a couch potato.
I've been getting around 60-90g of protein most days, not ample for muscle development but it's the best I can do.

Got a pull-up bar, doing lots of bodyweight stuff etc skinnyboi for life.

>>8536192
you have to eat more. "Oh but I can't it's hard!"
well listen up m8, that's what you NEED to do, if you don't do it, then fine, stay skinny, but that's what you need to do. Fatties have to run for hours with hundreds of lbs of extra weight on their bodies and all you have to do is stuff in an extra sandwich. How hard could it possibly be man?

>>8536177
>For girls, nah
No, girls like skinnier-ish look. Not full on skeleton but a more every day version of swimmer's body is ideal nowadays.

>>8536207
It will make you be unable to fit into cute clothes like how women with giant breasts have limited selection.

>>8536207
he didn't even say to not lift

>>8536325
Pullups for sure, skip chin-ups since big biceps on skinny dudes look awful and out of place.
Look into plyometrics if you get bored with just that stuff, it's fun.
>>8536356
Fuck off, he said "skinnyboi for life." as that's what he wants to be.
Fatties shouldn't be running right off the bat unless you want them to stress their already fucked up joints, bad advice. They should learn what portions should look like, what foods not to eat and how to not stuff their mouths all day. Then when their bodies aren't so fucking heavy should they start Intense cardio.

>>8536369
> girls knowing what they want

Just get big and cut. Girls will be mirin' on the daily

>>8536228
>tfw this is impressive to girls
lmao

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>>8536369
that body would get you any girl you wanted

>everyone in the world has the same opinion

>>8536228
zac is such a manlet

>>8536161
No, plain and simply.
People that don't work out have this bizarre idea that the second you touch a barbell you're going to turn into the hulk - real life isn't a /fit/ creatine story. At worst you'll feel better about your self and be healthier.

>>8536228
He is trying so hard to flex

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This is optimal.

>>8537196
Absolutely agree with this. God, that body is so fucking hot.

would fuck/10

>>8537196
optimal for sucking dick

>>8537196
agreed

>>8537231
>>8537221
why do you want the body of a starving child

>>8537196
Lol this is pathetic

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>>8537196
If I just starve myself I'll look like that?

>>8537227
>implying that's a bad thing

>>8537243
nope you need to lift but very minimal amount every week to maintain

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>>8537243
yes

how to go mc ride mode?

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>>8537266
Shadow Boxing (with or without light dumbbells)
Sprints
Push Ups
Sprints

>>8536228
w2c jeans

>>8536177
>For girls nah
If you're a guy what the hell would you know? I am a grill and I prefer skinny guys and most girls usually do unless they're fat girls

>>8536228
do you seriously believe this? zac efron is a fucking midget and I hate his body…unless you're a fat girl you will like skinny guys

>>8536325
I am a grill with a matching mole next to my belly button

>>8537196
oh my fuck, yes…I'd suck his dick

>>8537458
>I am a grill and I think I know what I want

>>8537221
>>8537476
You wanna blow a boy that looks like he isn't even old enough to drive?

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>>8536161
This guy was relatively small, but still had incredible functional strength and amazing looking muscles. I don't understand why people, especially in america just want to be big.

>>8536460
>any girl
Id fuck zac efron and I aint even gay

>>8537522
Dominance I would assume. Though I think it's been like that for centuries.

>>8536192
calorie powder dude

>>8537522
pop culture

>>8537522
we're the rambo/rocky/terminator generation that grew up watching wwe and playing with gi joes, same reason all these blonde slutty tramps used to play with barbies

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>>8537196
What should I do to get his body?
pic related is where I am currently at.

>>8537522
> incredible functional strength

Lol no. THe dude would probably struggle deadlifting 3 plate

>>8537625
a lot of that is genetics, i.e. shoulder length compared to torso length, long arms, tapered waist, overall height, etc.

if you don't have the genetics no amount of body fat % will give you the same look

>>8537636
you obviously dont know anything about bruce lee then

>>8537625
You're pretty great where you are at man honestly. Pecs look a little small but it's no big deal.

>>8537644
So to reframe my question: What kind of exercises (body weight) should I do to get as close as possible in terms of muscle definition? I am currently 6'3 and ~143lbs

>>8537677
if that pic is you then you're a lot closer to the model's body than anyone else in this thread will ever be. maybe build up your chest a bit more like >>8537674 said

>>8537691
Any exercise recommendations? I am currently only doing 135 (3*45) push-ups six days a week and some light bicycling everyday (30 minutes).

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>>8536161
6'4" 180 ottermode master race reporting in

Skinnyfat skeletons ITT

>>8537712
uhhh...bench presses? lol wtf i dunno i don't work out. 6 ft 134 lb master race here

>>8537720

how 2 T_T pls bb

>>8537196
This is fucking disgusting to me

>>8537458
God you sound so fucking stupid

>>8537196
Hot. Yes.

>>8537762
You are not master race you are a scrawny fuck who looks like shit and will never attract anything. When you grow up you will realize how embarrassing that body is

Yes, both OP.
Make it macho, you're good.

>>8537636
>the dude
fuckin' lol. get out, nerd

>>8536161
Grill here, skinny guys are absolutely disgusting.

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This

>>8538195
Shits known don't need to know your a girl besides prolly saying that cause you can only pull fatties

>>8537712
Just keep at it but try and implement different muscle groups - pull ups for back, military dumbell presses (if you have any) for shoulders, squats for legs etc. I would honestly recommend joining a gym and going from there, you can find relatively affordable gym prices if you sign up to an off-peak hour membership.

As for the cycling, I would advise you to look up high intensity interval training (HIIT) and add it to the end of every other workout - or dedicate a cardio day to it and also workout your core. It essentially means you exercise harder but require less time to do it. This method requires your bpm to be around 80% and burns fat quicker than the usual slow and steady method.

But above all I cannot extol the virtues of a good diet. They usually say diet and exercise is always a 50-50 split but I would personally say diet is 60 and exercise is 40. If you want to put on size, but make lean gains (i.e not bulking whilst keeping your body fat low) then try and reduce your carb content. Your protein consumption should be around your body weight in pounds, and always always always add some form of vegetable to your meals. Spinach, Kale, Broccoli etc are all superfoods and extremely good for making lean gains. You can entitle yourself to a 'cheat day' but I don't really see the point in it as you'd have to make up for it.

It's not easy to do all this, but you will reap the benefits so much more if you do. Find a routine and stick to it.

>>8537720
Petty much my ideal body, don't get any
bigger else you won't be able to fit in to really anything.

>>8537720
holy fucking shit you're so hot. How do you get such a low bf%

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How do I get better abs?

>>8538236
lower body fat

>>8538236
no muscle mass

keep starving yourself, that's the way to get abs!

>>8536161
They're both ideals. It's when you go to far into any extreme that you'll get problems. And fatties are just universally considered unattractive except by fetishists.

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>>8538252

>And fatties are just universally considered unattractive except by fetishists.

Misogynist piece of shit! You just can't handle a real womyn!

Fat dudes are gross though

>>8538237
is cardio really the only way? I eat clean as fuck.

>>8537464
you may be right about zack, but boy are you kidding yourself about skinny boys being more attractive to girls

>>8538205
By cycling I basically meant to work and back.
About my diet:
>breakfast (6:30AM)
250g of quark (64kcal and 12g of protein per 100g), an apple or some other fruits and 50-60g of muesli
>snack (12PM)
a small bretzel
>lunch (3PM)
same as breakfast but usually more quark
>dinner (6PM)
some pasta with a lot of vegetable sauce
>dessert (7PM)
same as breakfast most of the times

I barely eat any sweets at all tbh. Ive three shoe boxes full of sweets and nuts in my room but knowing their calorie content and sugar level they kind of disgust me.

>>8537458
>grill
of course you like non threatening skinny boys, you're not even 16 yet

>>8538256
The way is to take in less calories than your body is using.

>>8538268
I know dude I used to be fat lol. Do I really need to eat like 1200 calories wtf.

>>8538270
If you want abs yes. The question is do you really fucking need to look like you walked out of a concentration camp just so your stomach muscles stick out more?

>>8538186
lol wow, project much

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>be skeleton all life
>beta virgin, im convinced this is why
>been lifting two months, put on 8kg

If i get bigger girls will like me r-r-right

>>8538255
I know this is bait but my comment was a direct reply to OP who was talking about males. My comment reflects that.

>>8538276
fuck. x__x

You need to consider the quality of life that taking the path entails.
Simply being attractive is not enough to be happy.
Starving yourself and/or letting restriction be your basis of self-esteem is also not enough to be happy.
Exercising enjoyably and eating well is in itself probably not enough either, but it's not going to take over your life or destroy your body internally. You'll still have room in your brain for fun things/old hobbies at the very least.

Just some food for thought.
- Recovering A.N. sufferer (male)

>>8538307
Think of it this way. You already have pretty low body mass. If you cut anymore yes you will get more visible abs but the rest of you will look worse. So its not really worth it.

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Some like that other like something else

Do what is best for you

>>8538330
You have to understand that a lot of it is genetics as well. >>8538236 has reasonably low fat and sure, if he gets lower, he'll have more visible abs, but it's no guarantee that he'll have a 6 pack, maybe a 4 or 2 pack. it depends how his musculature is formed

You can still be beautiful with some muscle. Working out doesn't automatically mean beefcake mode.

>>8538333
good advice, friend.
appealing to other is no way to be living, yes?

for real tho you're right

>>8536161
I think being skinny > being muscular but outside of /fa/ this is the minority opinion. But you don't have to choose between the two extremes, find a happy medium. I consider ottermode god-tier. Clothes still look great on you and you're not a massive tool, but if you ever take your shirt off people will be impressed

>>8536294
yeah white tees + jeans + red wings is so eff ay

>>8537249
boy i love me some barbeque

>>8537196
how2achieve this

>>8538463
Really this is fucking easy...
Bulk for maybe not even 2 months, core exercises only and neglect your arms.

Cut, do cardio, drink water, smoke etc. I'm doing a cardio routine right now and just about to do some jogging/walking to lower bf%.

>>8538473
>Really this is fucking easy...
post your body then

>>8538740
I'm >>8536325

It's quite an old picture but I'm already starting to get visible abs, like I said you just need to do cardio mostly.

If you're under 18 and cute then yeah.
But if you're older that that it'd be gross. Your body would remind me of one of those dying old men in the retirement house.

>>8536226
>taking 9 weeks to get to the point where you can jog for 25 mins

wtf I haven't trained in months but I would probably do at least 20 mins on a first day back
is this chart designed for the morbidly obese?

>>8536192
Just do compounds like deadlifts, squats, cleans, bench etc, but most importantly EAT. Doesn't matter if you can't finish that burger, FINISH IT, THEN HAVE ANOTHER. That is what you need to do. If you seriously have trouble eating, worst case scenario is use some mass gainer, might work for you, might not.

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>>8536460
>implying girls want a sub-otter mode meso.

>>8537720
Dude seriously work your arms and pecs a bit more you look silly to have such broad shoulders.

>>8538236
Genetics, but do some resistance training. Burns fat better than cardio.
Calisthenics 4 lyfe

>>8538291
I'm sorry, but they won't.

I'm 5'10" and 123 lbs and I have a gf. Okay, she's kind of a tumblrite or whatever, but the point is that there are plenty of girls who like skinny guys. Look elsewhere for the root of your problem.

>>8539101
tfw i am the guy in the pic

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In the beginning of the school year I started working out, and this was taken around the time where I probably looked my best. After winter break, however, I completely stopped, and lost most of my definition. Did I look good enough to warrant keeping up this body type?

>>8539160
than what the hell am i supposed to do. Im a 20 year old kissless virgin for christ sale. i have nothing else to turn to.

>>8539206
Maybe it's not your appearance. How are your social skills?

Well, now that I think of it, my own social skills are terrible. I don't even know how I got a gf myself.

>>8536369
pro swimmer are in average 6'5''/200
That doesn't sound like little.

>>8539217
>>8539217
>How are your social skills?


Shit, im terribly awkward and cant even muster the few times i have i usually get blown off.courage to talk to girls. even when drunk.

>>8538236
Caloric deficit
>1500 calories a day
with
>30 minutes cardio
or
>1200 calories a day
with
>being a slot and lurking in /fa/

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posting /fa/ bodies

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>>8539321

>>8539321
w2c body

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>>8539339

>>8539321
w2c purple shorts?

>>8538291
Iktf bro, I've put on 10kg.. but I need to put on more.. keep going with it then develop your conversation skills after because you'll be more confident.

>>8537720
perfect

not stupid huge chest

very lean nice abs

wide shoulders

6'4

full head of hair

how do i into

6'0 120lb ;_;

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>>8536228
he looked so much better back when he was just a skinny teen

>>8539452
It's called growing up and not being a child anymore.

>>8537712
You look like that just from push ups and bicycling?

I don't understand this stupid shit of "what do I do to look more like _____"

Like fuck dude look at their soulders legs core etc etc and work all those parts out until you start to look more like your goal

You don't have to follow one SPECIFIC routine to get somewhere

>>8538195
>what is preference
d-didnt want u anyway

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>most girls generally seem to like skinny-fat guys
>can't be skinny-fat and fashionable at the same time

>>8537720
Your pecs are so hilariously flat.
You look like an idiot.

>>8539480
and you are hilariously insecure

>>8539480
>implying that's even him
>implying big pecs are /fa/
Whoever that is, is pretty much the perfect balance of /fa/ and /fit/.

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>>8539484
Someone on /fa/ is insecure?

I don't believe it!

Is it possible to both get muscles and lose fat at the same time, if you're skinnyfat?

>>8539504
prob not cause you prolly have low test

>>8539504
Yes it is. As you gain mass from working out you naturally 'get muscles'. Look up how to make lean gains.

>>8539504
You'll notice beginner gains, yes. Fat loss, muscles. It will be minimal though and you'll plateau quickly. Gotta eat and bulk.>>8539504

>>8539504
>implying that you're going to bother lifting longer than 3 days

>>8537458
LONDON
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N
D
O
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>tfw skinnyfat and don't know what program to start using
I just want to lower this bf%, should I just start doing HIIT 3 times a week or something?

>>8539575
skinnyfat reporting in
fat not so visible yet but it's starting to show so I was thinking about doing couch to 5k since apparently running lowers your bf plus it builds endurance and mine is shit

>>8539589
Not him but I'm doing that too, I'm >>8536325.

Start on like week 2 or 3 though.

>>8539599
how do you end up looking like that lol
>>8536325

>>8539628
Being /fa/.

>>8539589
>>8539575
You burn muscle before fat, skinny fat and just doing cardio = shit tier body

>>8537266
if you want to be skinny and have low body fat, run long distance and don't eat more than like 2000 Cal per day depending on your size. it's fucking easy as dicks

>>8536161
fuck no

unless muscular and fat that is shit

muscular and lean is best

>tfw you'd gladly put on some muscle but you're a lazy lack of shit with 0 motivation
no, girls digging me isn't good enough motivation

>>8539628
Drink water, if you drink fizzy shit you're asking to be obese and suffer.
Don't eat take-away or fast food.

Coffee and tea is good for suppressing hunger, only ever eat when you're hungry, eat light stuff.
Fruits, nuts, yogurts. I don't even have to try.

>>8536161
Short men can only pull off being skinny because muscle seems like compensation. Tall men can be skinny (within reason) and muscular (within reason).

I have some fat legs. How do I work that out and lose all that fatness?

>>8538195
Fuck you too bitch

Witcha stank pussy stankin up 4chan

>>8539955
U can't spot reduce moran

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>>8539955
cardio + Kcal deficit to reduce bf% because >>8540045

>>8537720
good job mang

for what it's worth, pecs look a bit weird in comparison to rest of upper body.

>>8539197
lose weight

>>8539297

Not him but What if I eat 1000 calories a day and start doing cardio? I'm losing weight but not fast enough imo

>>8537196
Agreed

You're just lifting to impress other men if you go far past this.

>>8541790
not that guy but it depends on you and your maintenance Kcal intake. basing off the avg ~2000cal, you'd probably be pretty miserable at 1000, however i suppose (in the short-term) it's do-able. i wouldn't do it for longer than a few weeks, month at most. and only eat clean foods. it'll test your dedication, for sure. fiber will be your bestfriend.

what are your stats? a/s/h/w

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Beginning of July, 176.4 pounds

>>8536161
I think the look is to go for a more lean body type, but not all scrawny looking, or spooky skeleton

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>>8541841
24 days later, 153.2 pounds

>>8537720
learn to eat sometime

an adult male weighs 200 lbs

Y'all are fucking dweebs. Different strokes for different folks. Whether you're small, medium or large, if your face is attractive, grills will come to you, plain and simple. Approaching grills is another story. People that are concerned about bulking up are obviously looking for dimes but without game, you're just a tool worrying about accessing your next meal while you're at a club failing at the first goal. But yea a lot grills like that Ken doll pop culture look. So start lifting insecure faggots.

>>8539109
I'm already doing some.. I just don't have any good abs routine, care to give me one? I'm pretty happy with the rest of my body. =/

>>8541837

25 m 5'11 210. I used to be 270. Played football in high school so I've always been big.

>>8541952
>I've always been big
for you! haha.

nah seriously. that sounds like a pretty big deficit, so be careful, and like i said focus on clean foods and fiber. do keep in mind it's not just going to melt off in a week - think of how long it took you to accumulate the extra fat...

here's the deal tho: you already know the answer.
you've heard it a million times and it's so obvious it hurts... it's simultaneously as simple and difficult as:
>eat right
>exercise
that's really it. the rest is (more or less) just details. but, there are no shortcuts, there are no special 1-month diets you can go on and then everything is back to normal 'fattness as usual'...

here's the way i look at it: don't try to 'go on a diet'; because, technically, you're already on a diet. it's just one that made/keeps you overweight. changing it briefly isn't going to do shit. so, if you actually want to get healthy, a short term stint isn't going to change anything [if you go back to the way things were before after]. it's like fasting for a day and then binge eating the next (almost literally)... if you want to see change in yourself and make progress, it starts in the mind. your mentality is what makes or breaks you here.

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I'm 6'1 @165 I'm at the point where girls tell me they're jealous of my skinniness. I feel like its not enough should I lose more?

PIC is not me just an azn cutie

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>>8536228
he's not even big
>mfw I don't even have to get that much buffer to make all the girls wet

>>8539206
I'm you but 2 years younger ;_;

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hi everyone
reminder that anything is possible w consistent exercise

>>8539206
>>8542107
just focus on yourself and your hobbies.
talk to people. everyone, not just qties u want to fuck.
try to forget about sex every once and a while.
hang out and have fun with your friends.
read books.
try new things. eat new foods.
exercise and try to stay healthy, but do some shitty things every once in a while too.

protip: nobody but you cares about your sexual status. it sounds cliche, but just find out who you are, what you like and be comfortable with it. there aren't any real secrets. just avoid trying to emulate someone else's style or personality to unlock >alpha mode. just cause it works for them doesn't mean it'll for you. just being comfortable and confident is the key.
you're still in your formative years, so don't fret, it just fuckin have fun while you're a goddamn kid, jesus. you'll be depressed enough later on in life...

>>8542159
>don't emulate people

this, oh god. I tried to emulate a friend of mine that would be a dick to girls but in the right way. it was like they were chasing him, trying to tame him especially the attractive ones that's never been insulted before

let's just say it didn't work for me...

any body type is ok as long as ur not obese or a midget
preferably tall and ottermode
source: I'm a grill

>>8542091
>cutie
nice joke friend

>>8536161
W2C that sweater or a similar knit?

if you wanna be a skinny bitch for the rest of your life go ahead and listen to your beta fagfriends. If you wanna be a man, and I mean a Mans Man. The Man of men to be all Men then fucking get your bitch ass in a gym.

lifting is good for you.
good for your health and shit.
DONT BE A BITCH! LIFT!

>This board has been taken over by skinnyfat /fit/

welp,
time for anyone who likes fashion to leave, we'll find a new place

>>8542091
that looks pretty disgusting

>>8542363
>mans man
gay

>>8541746
dude what
I have like no body fat in this picture those are my hip bones
>tfw feminine bone structure

>>8537720
post more pics

perfect

>>8539452
>skinny teen
He was 22 in that photo

>>8542617
don't take the bait friend

>>8542651
thanks man i was about to make myself throw up or some shit
like I've never been fat but like
so many of my friends are fat/skinnyfat
it's horrifying

>>8537636
Lifting 3 plate isn't some sort of cover all test of functional strength genius

>>8542363
>if you want to have tight quads to steadily grasp your boyfriends Bepis in ur ButtHole
>better do S/S & GOMAD

>>8542066
This is true.
I was really fat, and I didn't really care. One day I went to the doctor and he spoke with me about my weight and my health. And that talk had an impact on me. Not instantly, but I started to work with my mind, to be more discipinated and to care about myself more than anything.
A few months later, 5 months to be precise, I started to go to the gym, without thinking about it, without planning it, one day, after school I just went and got in.
Since then I have lost around 30kg, have gained some muscle and improved my relationships.
Your mind health is basic! I tried to lose weight a lot of times, but this time is the one were things are really happening.
I've gained a lot of confidence, I started to talk to qts I've never thought of doing, I've made a lot of new friends.

>>8537636
you can't even type
>THe dude
would kick your ass.

not to mention lb -> lb he's an order of magnitude stronger than ur fatt - "muh bulkan" - ass...

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>>8543199
you're on track, man. i'll bet /fit/ loves to hear success stories like these. take their shit w/a grain of salt, but they can help and encourage.

keep on track, and don't neglect the importance of nutrition - it's [in a sense literally] everything you are. good bye and good luck, anon. we'll all make it someday, and if we don't, i guess we'll all just die anyways.

>can't out-lift a bad diet
>can't out-dress a bad body
>pic related

>>8537179
>tfw lift for 3 months
>muscles grow so fucking slow
>now I started to eat like fucking Somalia nigger in McDonald's
>SLOW
Why does it take so much time? How long till I get my perfect slim and muscular body?

>>8543256
Thank you anon. I really don't feel like going there because they will want to see my progress and I still don't feel like sharing, but maybe when I get a better look I'll do it.
Everyone can make it, and I'm sure we will! Still a long road, but I'm in the right way.
Constancy is the key.

>tfw not fat but not skinny either

I guess this is what skinnyfat is?
I want to fix this so I'm not ashamed of my body but from the research I've done I need to shed body fat, and the best way to do that is to lift, and to lift you need to eat..... but I'm never hungry. I barely eat anything. Won't my lifts stall very quickly if I don't eat the proper amount? I was rarely hungry BEFORE I started taking SSRIs for depression and social anxiety, and now I'm even less hungry. So won't lifting be a waste of time for me in my current state? I feel so stuck -_-

>>8536161
it's a cliche but as far as being attractive goes, just do whatever makes you confident. If you think being skinny looks better, go skinny.
>>8537458
fuck off

I'm 6'1" and weigh 120lbs. The girls I see like me for my face (thank fuck for a pretty face) and when I do ask their opinions of what they find attractive in a guy, it's 95% muscular.

>>8543509
Stop being a little bitch?
Just because you're not hungry doesn't mean you can't eat? You think half of /fit/ is hungry when they eat? No. They eat because they have the self-discipline to force food down their throats until they vomit, and if they do, they keep going.

Stop being a fucking faggot and whining about your issues. You know exactly how to fix them, don't look for empathy you sad sack of shit.

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>>8543576
this

>>8543576
I'm
>>8542091
post a pick bro, you must be full on spooky skelly the skeleton. you must be anorexic or something

>>8543581
this sounds like it was written by that school shooter guy in cali

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>>8543586
don't you dare comparing it with the nonsensical drivel written by Elliot Rodger:
>With a tremendous amount of panic, I wondered what I could possible do. The only thing I could think of was to go out to the common areas of Isla Vista as much as possible. I had to put myself out there, even if it only increased my chances of having sex by one percent. One percent was still better than zero. For those crucial twelve days I had left as a teenager, I walked over to the center of Isla Vista every day and sat at one of the tables outside Domino’s Pizza, hoping against hope that a girl would come up and talk to me.
>Why wouldn’t they? I looked good enough, didn’t I? Or did I not look good enough?
this guy picked all the best parts from Elliot's 100+ page manifesto:
http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/05/26/the-psychosis-of-the-effeminate-male/

>>8543586
They write alike, but their sentiments are almost the exact opposite. And Pook came first anyway.

>>8543509
lol what a sorry excuse for a person

>>8537691
Would recommend core exercises
>working out abs ever

>>8536200
there is no point, it's all about ego

>>8542181
Because you did it wrong

>>8536460
I think I've been poisoned by /fit/ but he just looks like a DYEL manlet to me. And he needs to shave for fucks sake

>>8537794
SS + GOMAD

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>>8544029

>And he needs to shave for fucks sake

I think you have bro, did you watch scoobys video too?

Point to where you are on the chart

>>8539197
you look like a fucking twig, go work out, cunt.

> itt, men separated from boys
men need to fill out a suit
women (not teenyboppers) want someone who doesn't look like they're about to snap
> post college you'd better get some muscle

>>8536161
In the United States, because of the obesity epidemic - it will come off as odd to most women (see:basic bitches) when you are thin because most men are literally overweight

It's really important to outshine the stigma.

You do not need to put on weight, and you do not need to build obvious muscle mass if you do not want to

>>8543509
>I know my issue, and the solution to it, but I won't do anything about it

there's a threshold you can cross when getting fit I think. there's a certain grace and elegance to thin people that very muscular people just don't have. you trade off a more feminine beauty for raw masculine sexual attractiveness, so it depends on what appeals to you I guess.

>>8536161
it depends how you define muscular.

if you go ottermode, then it's clearly much much better looking than skinny mode.

if you're white then it wouldn't take long to get on acceptable level. it's different story tho if you're lanky asian. lel

I'm slim and pretty toned, only problem is my legs are big from cycling, so I can't fit into skinny jeans, I have to wear fucking slim jeans and sometimes even they are too tight. Anyone know how to concentrate weight loss on my legs? I've been eating less but I think I'll just lose weight all over then have to regain my upper muscle, to gain/regain ottermode.

>>8544029
don't let /fit/ body dysmorphia issue gets in you bro.

while having greater goal is totally understandable but zac's body is totally sufficient to get bitches wet. unless you aim for something else than there's no need to get any bigger than zac.

but he does need to train his arm more. just too small compared to his torso

>>8537720
shitty pecs gene. cant blame you for that tho.

train your bis and tris more.

>>8538197
my goal body.

but he's not gonna look good with fa clothings. unless if you go tumblr tier preppy lumberjack style.

>>8539197
you defo have good base.

just give 6 months bulk/cut cycle, and you're there. :)

>>8539339
dayum this nigga can be the most handsome bodybuilder if he wants to.

that pecs insertion and delt are just god tier.

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>>8536228
>The whole skinny look is unattractive to all girls

get a load of this 4chan poster who knows what all girls like

>>8542101
he's also got an extremely attractive face
and he's a famous actor

you body could look just like his but you'll still be a an aspie neckbeard

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This is perfect IMO

>>8545737
to gay men, yes.
men think big and muscular is what woman want

yet MOST girls don't want to date a guy that is better looking than them, they get super insecure.

>>8536228
>shitty body hair
>6 months out of auschwitz
>attractive

>>8545767
>that
>big and muscular
the guy's like 130lb skinny a.f. just does some benching curls and prob bikes a bit

>>8536369
They really don't, if your arms aren't at least 3x as big as mine don't even try pls. Girls like strong men who can pick them up, make them feel safe etc not skinny effeminate looking little boys. Skinny males just look like faggots to me tbh, huge turn-off

ok guys 124 lb auschwitz reporting

just bought some ON serious mass

From my experience:
>young qts and good catches say they hate guys being too buff. they like them to be tall and thin. some muscular definition (more than actual volume) makes it perfect.
>scene/emo/specialsnowflakes like them more on the skinny side
>clubsluts/fatties/oldwomen/gaymen like them more big and muscular

Plus, the best girls you see on the streets, those who are model tier, are never fucking ever with gymfags.

And I know it's anecdotal, but if it serves as a reference, I'm 21, 6'0 and weight 160 lbs and I get hit on by girls a lot. Like I'm freaking out of how much has it happened lately.

>>8545848
>thinking women know what they want
being jacked just makes them intimidated so they won't come up to you unless they're sluts
but come up to them and 95% of the time they'll be soaking wet

>>8545805

>that guy
>130 lbs

>>8545855
lol he's a manlet
compare his height to the lockers

>>8545853

>this is what /fit/ actually believes

I know it might work for the average mediocre women, but for the good ones it doesn't. Just like if some slut with fake big boobs and ass comes to me I'm going to bang her 'cause I'm a guy but nothing more.

>>8543199

Well I was just losing weight just because. I've always talked to qts and got plenty of pussy even when I was bigger. Size, weight, and clothing doesn't have much to do with that imo

>>8545868
except muscles arent fake

if a slut with huge real boobs and ass came up to me id fuck her, duno about you gay boy

>>8545900

>muscles aren't fake
>steroids

Also, for me sth that requires you to spend a ton of time on the gym to mantain (we're talking about being jacked) is kinda fake as well, 'cause the day you stop going most of it will vanish (and if I'm well informed it will become fat).

On the other hand, I'm pretty low maintenance. Now that we're on summer I'm trying to run and do some exercise everyday, but during the course I only go a couple of days a week swimming if anything. And I could stop all of that and I'd stay pretty much the same.

From what I gather from female friends/coworkers/associates that slightly more mass than ottermode is ideal to them. Most cited examples being Brad Pitt in Snatch, and Brad Pitt in Fight Club.

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>>8539492
>tfw that image
th-thanks anon

>>8545855
why are you so retarded? was it a skill you picked up on your journey to faggotry?

>>8545941
that's very wrong, I see you never took a bio/chem course before.

>>8536161
depends on the girl and guy imo

>>8536161
w2c sweater?

>>8536325
is this a man's body

>>8545767
>yet MOST girls don't want to date a guy that is better looking than them
this, I can confirm tho, that's fucked up

go to the gym anon

you'll be able to quit long before you get muscular if youre feeling like its ruining your figure

your body really doesn't like putting on muscle

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>>8547862
T-thanks...

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freemode is best

>>8539480
>Implying raising your arms doesn't make your chest disappear

At least you're not one of the necromancers on this board worshiping skeletons.

>>8548537
Where are their nipples?

>>8539480
hahahahhaha

>>8537720
lookin good as fuck man

>>8548663
breast cancer

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>>8537196
>mfw google image it

>>8548663
Sanded them off to reduce water resistance.

>>8537441
Acne

>>8536161
only for korean and japanese girls can u be skinny

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What mode am I?

>>8549010
fucking dying

>>8537720
post legs

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>>8549190
spooky scary mode

>>8549190
I have the same body as you man. Not sure if I like it or not but I feel like a weakling and like I just look too skinny

>>8537720
i cant get mad at you for calling me skinny fat you put the effort to achieve this congrats

>>8538291
I've been obese, skinny fat, athletic, and now builtfat trying to get back to just athletic and I can tell you the amount of tail i get has remained a constant. We need to change our attitudes: be less angry and/or negative and relax, leave all anxiety behind.

>>8539197
>looked my best
just do a bunch of pushups and situps m8

>thinking women know what they want
besides im pretty sure a girl knows what they want if theyre coming up to you as opposed to you coming to them

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>>8549010
lol

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>>8549010
lol

>>8549213
Well I've been a 135 lb skinnyfat all my life so I'm trying to recomp what I have. I'm more proud now that I look lean rather than skinnyfat but idk if I should bulk from here or what. I've always had relativey big legs though and I want to still look decent in skinnies

>go to a concert with some people I haven't seen in years, was kind of talked into it
>among them two chicks that got somewhat fat (not exactly whale-like, but chubby).
>on our way home the two chicks want to go to McDonalds
>"I haven't been to McDonalds in like years!"
Note: This is in Europe. McDonalds has not quite the bad reputation here as in the USA
>So we go to McDonalds
>I get a bigmac menu, whatever
>Start eating, the girls arrive
>"Oh you are one of those guys who can eat anything and stay thin, right?!"
>Those ham beasts literally bought salads what the fuck

I hate that shit. What were they thinking, that I go home and eat even more? That was literally the only thing I ate all day and it stayed that way. I know that those bitches ate their fucking salads for show, went home and ate some really disgusting shit.

The point is: Girls basically want someone to make them feel better. They hate to me reminded that they can't even handle their own fucking bodies.

>>8549309
>That was literally the only thing I ate all day

thats not good for you either, 1200 calories is not enough

>those bitches

nice misogyny right there buddy

>>8549341
>not acknowledging the skinnyshaming

>>8548645
NOBODY UNDERSTANDS THIS, EVEN ON /fit

>>8537196
how th ehell does this skeleton have a chest but absolutely no arms or triceps. even benching would give him bigger arms than that. even picking up the fuckin plate would give him arms. does he just sit on the pec fly machine 24/7???