are the h&m derby shoes as bad as the $30 price suggests?

>>12707425
they are really bad, but they don't look so bad. You are going to waste your money on them.

you can literally get second hand loake, church, trickers, etc second hand at ebay for the same price.these are quality shoes that would set you back at least 250 bucks if you were to buy them retail.

Been looking for exactly this style of shoe lately. Can someone recommend good budget options?

I found some pretty nice ones made by Zign, but I'm not sure about the quality (80€), can someone share their experience with Zign shoes?

They actually look nice for track pants

bbump

>>12707425
had to buy cheap derbys asap recently, got these and yes, they are bad although they dont look as cheap as you'd think

they will fuck up your feet but you get what you pay for

>>12707639
seconding this, was looking at buying some zign shoes a minute ago, just avoiding an impulse buy.
Though they were a cheaper pair ~£50

>>12707425
$30 shoes are never a good idea, especially from H&M. They will look okay for a few weeks and then fall apart.
Save some more money and buy a second hand pair of good quality shoes