Fragrance General

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>>12646678
If you want recs, provide as many criteria as possible: including sex, price range, seasons/weather, occasions, other frags/notes/accords you like/dislike, special conditions i.e. can easily be found in mall department stores, other ephemera i.e. personal style/aura you want to project, etc...

Also, please try to keep the discussion on-topic rather than indulging certain posters' attention seeking behaviors.

Does anyone know Parfums de France on Amazon? They have 99% positive feedback, no negative feedback, and they have a lot of niche stuff at fairly reasonable prices. Are they legit? I'm very wary of buying off Amazon.

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alright retards ill have to write the entire forewords of his book ''The Essence Of Perfume''

''It is often said that our eyes are the windows to our soul. I believe them merely to be observers, whereas, our nose absorbs the world's life essences Since the dawn of civilization, perfume has been with us. evolving within the complex fabric of the human psyche and culture. Scent is intangible. It can touch us, move us, and inspire our very being. It can transform us into seducers or seductresses, elevating and transporting us to an ethereal realm of memories and sensations. (...)'''

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>>12646809
''(...) Unlike fashion and nature, fragrance disregards age, colour and vantage. As we age, and our bodies start their slow inevitable decay, our skin starts to shout the truth, however hard we try to silence it. Our clothes begin to show the lumps and bumps we wish we didnt have but, like a true friend, fragrance is loyal, nonjudgemental and kind. Sit with someone and breathe in their scent and they give you one of the most beautiful of all gifts - the gift of memory. You may not have seen someone for years but, with one breath of their scent, the memories come flooding back, dreams are revived, love is rekindled. (...)''

Anyone have any recommendations for a good sandalwood scent? Something not too heavy and kind of looking for sweet-creamy sandalwood, maybe with a bit of citrus or light spiciness.

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>>12646821
''(...) A photograph is cold, two-dimensional and, in time, will fade; a perfume brings back moments in our lives in vivid, glorious technicolour. Nothing but perfume, in my opinion, is able to transport us in this way - a single drop of scent can take us from the mundane to a temporal world of fantasy and escapism. The alchemisy's magical creations can evoke the warm fields of Provence, exotic pleasures of the East, or bright, fast cities full of elegant, polished women and slick men. It has the ability to bring a smile to our lips, or tears from our eyes; it can both repel us and attract us. (...)''

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>>12646833
''(...) The majority of modern scents are made by chemist perfumers, without passion or quality materials, the images and names created by anonymous marketing departments, amde to a brief - cold, callous, and clinical. They manage to take the artistic genius out of the great art, replacing it with something which is merely the process of profit. These marketers can be considered at once remarkably talentless or remarkably skilled, initiating our rational awareness to buy into a concept rather than a scent. This is truly dishonest but wildly effective in an industry that has become saturated with global profit-driven companies rather than the magic, skill and artistry of a great perfumer. We often become aware of this broken promise as these marketed fragrances generally neither deliver, nor do they endure, and at the same time great classics are discontinued, giving rise to individuals whose fragrant memories have been forever stolen. (...)''

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>>12646851
''(...) In many ways, the world of perfume has become debased by the drive towards rampant commercialism, employing ruthless marketing tactics to fuel this behaviour. A great perfume, such as Tabac Blond by Caron, has had very little marketing in some 90 years since its creation and, yet, it remains a success - indicating that you do not always need to convey a scent in a glossy magazine by way of a sexed-up advert. A great perfume simply needs to be great. After all, a great cook, no matter how skilled and experienced, cannot create a magnificent dish with mediocre ingredients. Similarly, a great perfumer is only as good as the materials he or she works with. (...)''

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>>12646871
''(...) However, a small renaissance has begun in perfumery, as not everyone wants to smell cheap. Consumers are waking up to the idea of individuality once more; the cognoscente is turning its back on mass-marketed fragrances. There is a revival in creative perfumery, shifting the craft back to the genius of the Master Perfumers. The art of perfumery is once again in the hands of the gifted. As the saying goes, ''without marketing you have creativity, without creativity you have nothing''.''

Like I said, they will always criticise the industry sure. But you show contempt for people that *wear* them. Thats the difference. You can have his book, I have it too, very thorough on the history with good anecdotes. If you look at interviews and listen to Radio drop ins he is generally more friendly. Thats the big difference, he is most likely one of the most luxurious perfumers today, but he is still humble for the most part. You however, are anything but. Are you trying to live vicariously through him?

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>>12646880
the last paragraph talks about the book itself and its content. here are 2 quotes that were included in the forewords:

''When from a long-distant past nothing subsists after the people are dead, after the things are broken and scattered, taste and smell alone, more fragile but more enduring, more unsubstantial, more persistent, more faithful, remain poised a long time, like souls, remembering, waiting, hoping, amid the ruins of all the rest; and hear unflinchingly, in the tiny and almost impalpable drop of their essence, the vast structure of recollection''
-Marcel Proust, Remembrance of Things Past

''The more we penetrate odours the more they end up possessing us. They live within us, becoming an integral part of us ...''
-Edmind Roudnistka, Perfumer

We should probably just make a new thread at this point. This fucking autist has already ruined this one.

Probably. I think samplesperg needs to understand that other people here are fans of Roja and enjoy what he does as well as his stances, just not an arrogant prick like samplesperg about it.

>>12646890
People have been calling me names since the beginning because I essentially see fragrances the same way as him, yet you wouldnt call him autistic. THATS MY POINT. I dont know how else to tell you either way, designer stuff is pleb shit, it's true! For pretty much the same reasons as roja. yet you wouldnt call him autistic! if the only difference is friendly and not friendly ... that in itself is not relevant to fragrances.

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>>12646896

Nobody has a problem with you being passionate about fragrances. It's fantastic that you have an interest you're passionate about. I live fragrances too.

We have an issue with you acting like an arrogant dickhead, talking down to people, and derailing threads with your autism. I honestly hope you get bowel cancer, please fuck off and never post again.

>>12646914
We don't hate you because of the way you see fragrances, we hate you because of the way you act. Learn some humility and we won't have a problem.

>>12646917
I'm not an arrogant dickhead you're just all against me that's all

>>12646920
Everyone shits on me because I have $1500 worth of samples. I wouldnt even be a personality here otherwise. I said many times why I bought samples and I always had the same replies.

>>12646914

Well so do I, but I don't judge people that wear designer scents. I wear them to enjoy on myself and pick apart notes, but I'm not going to talk down to someone that wears it to get with someone. No-one is calling you autistic for loving perfumes, I will be glad to talk to you about certain ones. Just for the love of christ stop with the derailing and calling people plebs, cause then you are not going to get a meaningful conversation. If you wanted to talk about Roja even sure go ahead, I'm a level headed fan of his. But this is a site where you can love fragrance all you want, if you aren't kind to people they won't be willing to talk to you about perfume. If you could just do that and rebuild bridges with people here, hell, I will even spray you a decant of Roja's perfume. About 1 ml. You could get a sample but I know how to preserve my perfumes and I will be doing it out of good will.

>>12646922
Well, if everyone thinks you're an arrogant dickhead, maybe you're acting like an arrogant dickhead. If everyone seems to have a problem with you, ever think maybe it's you, not us?

>>12646931
outside of this place it's fine if people wear Sauvage instead of Axe (there has been an effort I guess) but ... we should have higher standards here. we're a small international community of fragrance enthusiasts ffs

>>12646944
and we're all supposed to be ressourced too! really a waste of everyones time when there are whole discussions about bdc and sauvage and the likes.

>>12646944
This is your problem. You think your way is the only correct way. There are many ways to enjoy fragrances and none are more or less valid than any other. Just because you don't agree with someone else's opinion doesn't mean their opinion is inferior to yours.

This is why we think you're an arrogant dickhead.

>>12646944
god you are such a faggot

I mean to be fair that And/Lynx "YOU" spray is weirdly gimmicky (as well as smelling like most other axe/lynx sprays) x3 Kinda like how Molecule 01 is ISO E that you can dilute yourself for less, and the "effect" of it is because you would become anomic to it partially and it would reappear, very clever marketing I suppose.

>>12646958
dude, everyone here said that I was the one who didnt have the correct way of enjoying fragrances. because I enjoy them for what they are, instead of blindbuying bottles and wear them for compliments.

>>12646971
You think people here just blind buy bottles? We sample before we buy bottles, the difference is we actually buy bottles. The problem isn't you buying samples, the problem is your insistence that everyone else should love your sample collection and should treat you with respect, despite you not treating others respectfully.

great fucking thread.

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>>12646959
My offer still stands btw

>>12646996
I dont remember how I introduced myself here. Designer fragrances and marketing shit is so foreign to me, both when I wasnt familiar with fragrances and now when I became an enthusiast. It's exactly why I had no interest in fragrances back then, but then this general showed me there was more than that. I can hardly believe a mass marketed frag would somehow be someone's ideal frag when there are so many that scream to be discovered. The industry is killing the industry. Shitting on niche perfumery in this general really is a crime and that's what many people did when replying to me.

Ill buy a bottle when I like a frag enough, because in any case I still have them in a vial for my personal enjoyment.

>>12647039
No one shits on niche frags, they shit on niche elitism, which is what you're doing.

>>12647060
it's not designer vs niche it's mass-marketed crap vs works of passion

god dammit i doused myself in parfum extrait again

on my 15th hour of puredistance M

>>12647063
Just stop posting here. You're obviously not capable of behaving yourself. Look at this thread. This is what happens because of you. Just go away and let us have our threads.

>>12647075
I wouldn't recommend dousing yourself ;) Just a spray, two at most.

To be fair lots of niche houses can exploit the market and it wanting to go beyond designer by being cynically niches, like niche for the sake of it, not out of genuine creativity. I dislike the word itself because since niche is a trend what will happen eventually when the "niche" world of perfumery collapses too? Personally I wouldn't mind it being like the heyday, good perfume in a nice crystal bottle.

But realistically its not going to happen, the times will change and the big corps globally will dictate a lot of trends, natural resources themselves might wear out too.

>>12647087
why must you feel this way? ;(

>>12647109
yes fair point, but with the Internet now it's almost impossible to never be able to reach out to genuine good niche houses anymore. if anything it's because the problem will be within ourselves, not being able to enjoy genuine good stuff.

>>12647118
AFAIK Papillon are still relatively good, a very small lineup but Tobacco Rose (weirdly has no tobacco in it) is very nice. Very very heavy on the rose.

Natural perfumers also criminally overcharge too. Aftelier have this perfume that just has bergamot, pink pepper, orange flower, pimento, ambrette and ambergris but wants $400 for 7.5ml, making it potentially £5000 for 100 ml. Even ambergris isn't truly that expensive, you can get it for about £25ish per gram for white grade, the highest grade. If I knew how to blend and compound a perfume properly I could probably source all "the rarest ingredients in the world" and make about 500ml-1 litre of it at 25% concentration for about £3000 at most. Although deer musk and civet is banned, you can still buy it, depending where you look. You can source Grasse Rose de Mai absolute too but I'm only unsure about Grasse Jasmine.

>>12647063
You realize that many "niche" houses are owned by huge conglomerates, right? Like By Kilian is owned by Estée Lauder. There are even rumors that Roja Dove himself might soon be selling his house.

Also, niche houses do greedy, exploitative shit all the time. Creed just raised their prices and reduced the size of their bottles. Amouage has "reformulated" many of their fragrances.

If you think niche fragrances are all made by dudes living out in villas in Tuscany or some shit who are only doing it because of their passion for fragrances, you're an idiot.

>>12647174
FoxOnFluids is that you?

>>12647178
No, but it's true. Even the profile for By Kilian on Fragrantica says it's owned by Estée Lauder.

>>12647184
Well he did say himself that he will sell up shop one day, obviously he has no children to pass it on to. Personally as long as he doesn't sell to LMVH I won't have a problem. Wasser has somehow still managed to have a decent Mitsouko formula despite all the IFRA and LMVH stuff.

>>12647174
much more likely to still find quality in niche anyway. i know about creed and their shitty business practices and i could sense something in kilian just by their names and designs. roja, well, we'll see

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Look what just came! So happy, it smells fantastic.

I picked up a 50ml of Rituals Sultan De Muscat as my first fragrance recently. I subjectively liked it better than Tom Fords Noir due to the vanilla in the TF reminding me of a girl I slept with.

Is there such a thing as a straight upgrade from this? No big changes in notes but higher quality, deeper/richer scents and better performance?

All I know is that I'm really enjoying getting into this.

>>12647233
Nice! I just bought myself a backup bottle of MI too. Figured it'd be a good idea to buy one of the 120ml bottles while the discounters still had 'em.

>>12647274
10/10, would laugh again.

>>12647281
Hey, one thing though, is the citrus always this heavy in newly opened bottles of MI? Smells really different from the sample I got from a half-gone tester.

inb4 fake, got it from fragrancenet so no worries

>>12647332
Well, Creed is infamous for batch inconsistencies, so bottles from different batches can smell fairly different. I do recall from my first bottle, though, that the scent really did develop a few months after I first opened it.

>>12647397
What batch was yours...? Kinda worried now. I'm hoping it doesn't keep this super strong neroli/lemon/lime sorta smell, reminds me of Versace Pour Homme, which I have nothing against, but I definitely don't want to spend 150 on. The drydown is classic MI, but the citrus takes so damn long to go away.

>>12646823
Escentric 04 (not Molecule 04) if you like grapefruit.

>>12647424
I thought this stuff was retarded expensive? $150 for nearly 100 ml isn't bad at all

any of you guys have been giving a try at making fragrances ! seems like a fun thing to do desu

>>12647472
It's 120ml. Also, the MSRP IS insanely high, like 425 dollars, but discounters usually have them for 150-250, 250 being for Aventus

>>12647424
First bottle is SO3314D01

My new bottle is A3315H01, which I haven't opened yet, so I can't comment on the quality.

>>12647478
I've been wanting to, too! I have a local farmer's market I kinda wanna set up a stand at, seems like it could be fun to sell fragrances at a reasonable price. What sort of frags are your favorite/would you like to make most?

>>12647503
Yeah, I got my new bottle of MI for 180 Maplebux. If you get it through Creed's boutique or from a high-end store, they sell for like 450-500 here.

>>12647478
I kind of want to try, but the big problem is that there aren't really places here in Canada where you can buy your components, you'd have to import them and many are considered hazardous materials for shipping purposes, so it could be difficult/expensive to import.

>>12647503
Where'd you get 120 for $150? Fragrancenet is more expensive and I don't know any other discounters

>>12647538
Wait until they have the 35% off deal on MI, it's 154 then

>>12647557
oh ok

are there any more good discounters tho? fragrancenet doesn't have a lot of stuff I want

>>12647577
Fragrancebuy.ca if you're in Canada or the U.S., their prices are in CAD, too, so they're etxra cheap.

Most discounters don't have a huge amount of the more obscure niche stuff in general, if that's what you're looking for. Fragrancebuy has a pretty decent selection, though. Even have a lot of middle eastern stuff.

>>12647623
I was looking for some comme des garcons stuff actually, didn't think it was that obscure

>>12647631
CdC pretty much seems only luckyscent has it. Strangely enough, if you go to Europe they have them everywhere.

>>12647757
END. and Dover street market carries them too, but dsm is run by a bunch of cunts and I know END is legit but I'm still a little wary even though they have good prices, maybe it's just autism

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Thoughts on pic related? I'm hesitating between this and eau de lacoste white

>>12647508
i would love to make a good men fragrance, kinda earthy but keeping it light with some floral scents. Tbh i don't even know if i could manage to make a perfume on my own.

Very humid area Male <$100
Looking for something to wear on dates at night
Base note of musks of course, but I would also like some vanilla or lavender in the top or mid notes.
Thanks

>>12647533
hazardous materials ?
I think you can manage to do something decent with some essential oils, distilled water, alcohol and glycerol. what materials are you talking about ?

>>12647946
You'd think so, but not so much. I've looked at various sites, they pretty much all require you to get a hazardous materials permit in order to import into Canada.

>>12647233
Nice mate. Nothing quite like getting a new bottle of creed

>>12647508
I kind of have this idea kicking around in my head. I want to try doing something with blood orange, dark chocolate, orange, cherry, musk, jasmine, and sandalwood, maybe some ambroxan and pink pepper.

Dunno if it would be good or not, but it's something I want to try for some reason.

>>12647848
Invictus, definitely. Very appealing and fresh, despite what snobs will say.

So how would one go about actually creating their own essences and notes for fragrances? Like, going from plant to useable component? I really have no idea on the whole process.

Seems like it could be kind cool. Like you could go on nature walks and collect flowers and shit to use. Are their any sites or anything where I can learn how to do this?

>>12648006
Ambroxan is so cool, good choice! I know it's overused, but it and ambergris are so fascinating. I'd love to use real ambergris if I felt like it'd be worth it

>>12648138
Don't, it's fucking impossible. Even with roses, you have to press 10,000 of them just for 5ml of essential oil.

>>12648145
It is interesting stuff. Very versatile. It can kind of round out all kinds of fragrances.

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thoughts on pic related? wasn't a fan of original 1 million, but this....smells actually really good, like sweet but in pleasant, unobnoxious way. considering it as a scent for winter...

>>12648270
Yes! Prive is AMAZING, I hated 1 million as well, but somehow prive just fixes everything wrong with it and makes it 10x better. Definitely pick some up.

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>>12647233
just a curious question. How do you justify the insane cost of creed? I want a bottle of green Irish tweed really bad and I have the money for it but I can't reconcile the cost in my mind

>>12648298
Green Irish tweed is like 130 bucks on fragrancenet literally right now

>>12648298
You buyt from a discount site while it's on sale. Never pay retail for Creed frags, you can get them for literally half the price or less. The prices suddenly don't seem so insane when it's like 180.00 for a 120ml bottle.

>>12648298
It's cheap on fragrancenet and the like. Only a fool would pay MSRP for creed. For that price, I imagine you could get a 120ml of a 2013 batch of Aventus.

Has anyone ever bought a split from mountainbikesandwatches on basenotes? Or anyone on basenotes for that matter? Trying to get a feel for who's legit before I get Aventus.

>>12647274
my collection is bigger than this

>>12648314
Do you buy bottles and not act like an arrogant dickhead?

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>>12648305
Almost bought a 120ml bottle of GIT for 160$ but the fragrancenet rejected my credit card. Fuck. Are the prices always this low?

>>12647848
eau de toilette more like toilet water

>>12648326
pretty much

>>12648326
Yes. The "30% OFF ACT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!" thing is always going on. It's actually better you waited, wait until it's 35% off, that's the highest

>>12648318
didnt buy bottles yet. i got 100 new samples to try so maybe eventually?

>arrogant dickhead
if thats how im perceived, what can i say

versace eros or la nuit de l'homme for a cheap i-want-girls-to-think-i-smell-nice-and-that's-it scent?

>>12648353
la nuit smells like COMPLETE garbage. eros is less worse and i remember someone said i smelled nice when i sprayed eros at the shit store.

>>12648353
Versace Eros. Though desu Dior Sauvage or Invictus would be better for that.

>>12648359
I thought la nuit was a good one?
>>12648360
I have sauvage but I don't have anything for cold weather, unless it doesn't really matter

>>12648370
one of the vilest synthetic pieces of shit if not THE vilest piece of shit ive ever smelled. if i dont count axe and other irrelevant cheap frags

>>12648374
is this just samplesperg type autism or a genuine opinion

>>12648383
it's a genuine opinion, how can you even say that la nuit smells good? and im supposed to take my detractors seriously.

>>12648370
Oooh, cold weather crowd pleaser? Try Pure Malt. It's lovely and everyone around you will love it. I hear spicebomb is good for that, too, give it a try. One I've also been liking is 1 million prive, mentioned it back at
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>>12648383
It's not Samplesperg-type autism. What you have there, friend, is 100% pure, genuine fresh-squeezed actual Samplesperg autism.

Feel free to disregard his opinion. He is very, very autistic and will shit on anything that doesn't smell like burning rubber, yak milk, and Oud prepared by and blind, deaf Gypsy woman who lives in a shack in the mountains of Romania and has spent her entire life doing nothing but brewing perfumes.

>>12648385
You don't understand what the word "opinion" means, do you?

>>12648428
youre right. facts arent opinions.

>>12648419
not true

>>12648441
I honestly hope your entire family is killed in a fiery car crash.

>>12648445
you may call me whatever you want but ill never say anything as edgy as this

>>12648419
so does fucking l'homme suck or not

it's cheap and every other sephora review is some girl talking about not being able to stop sucking her boyfriends dick after he sprayed it on

>>12648452
la nuit is fucking shit dude

>>12648451
I honestly hope your testicles are bitten off by a jackal.

>>12648452
It's a decent frag, nothing wrong with it. It has been reformulated, though, and the new batch is supposedly very watered down. Women do seem to like it a lot, though.

I would say overall you're better off with Eros or Pure Malt.

Never, ever listen to Samplesperg. He contributes nothing to these threads other than vitriol, he has no clue what he's talking about since despite his autistic obsession with samples, had never even worn a fragrance 6 months ago, and we all basically just wish he would go away.

>>12648462
if i leave, youll be lost, here you show your true colors with those vile posts. no wonder you like la nuit, it's as disgusting as you are. suits you well.

>>12648467
I honestly hope you eat too much organ meat and are forced to pass a kidney stone the size of a marble.

>>12648472
>becomes your best friend irl
>hehe ... little did you know, i was the man they call samplesperg all along

what would you do?

>>12648476
I would treat him decently his entire life, be the best friend he ever had. Then, as he lay dying on his death bed as an old man, I would lean in close and whisper in his ear "Roja Dove is overrated".

>>12648476
Impossible. Samplesperg doesn't have friends. He thinks everyone else is an idiot and thinks going to parties and socializing is for losers. Not even joking.

>>12648480
i dont even like rojas frags all that much

>>12648485
true, going to generic parties is for losers. socializing isnt though

>>12648488
I honestly hope an angry Jamaican man cuts off your pinky.

>>12648488
I'm with you there. I mean, who wants to have sex, make friends, and have a good time anyway, right? What a bunch of fucking plebs.

>>12648500
1. you cant be friend with plebs
2. therefore you cant have a good time with plebs
3. promiscuity is bad. you should only make love with your wife.

>>12648507
I honestly hope you meet a wonderful, beautiful woman, fall in love and get married. Then, on your third anniversary, you take her on vacation to the Bahamas, one day, when you're out at the beach swimming in the ocean, a lemon shark bites you on the leg. It's not a deep bite, but it severs your femoral artery and your wife looks on in horror as you bleed out into the ocean. They get you to the hospital, but it's too late, you've lost too much blood, and pass away.

The last words you ever say to your wife are "please take care of my samples".

>>12648520
>bahamas
he loves la nuit and the bahamas. what next, you listen to pauly D?

>>12648524
I honestly hope you go appliance shopping and buy a new toaster oven. However, unbeknownst to you, it's a Chinese knockoff and the element coils are coated in toxic materials. You begin to get sick, the symptoms aren't too noticeable at first, fatigue, upset stomach, eventually though, you begin to have constant diarrhea and bloody stools and you begin to rapidly lose weight and your hair falls out. Doctors can't figure out what's wrong.

You die alone in a hospital bed never suspecting that it was your daily morning bagel that was your downfall.

>>12648533
im not that much of a fan of toasted bread

>>12648539
I honestly hope you go on vacation to Spain. One day, while you sit at a cafe enjoying an espresso and a biscotti, a bull from a nearby bullfight manages to break free from the arena. It runs through the streets, people scattering before it. Being too engrossed in your newspaper, you fail to notice the commotion. Wounded, enraged, and confused, the beast charges you. You are gored repeatedly and trampled, the blood from your many wounds leaking out onto the cobbled street. The bull is eventually subdued and your broken and battered body is taken to the morgue for storage while your family is contacted to make arrangements for your remains.

>>12648550
i dont drink coffee, even less espressos, so ill most likely not be anywhere near enraged bulls who storm cafes

>>12648559
I honestly hope you're browsing in a used book store one day and come across an old book of magic. You decide to purchase it because it appears to be handwritten and is beautifully, if morbidly, illustrated. One day, as a goof, you decide to recite an incantation from the book. Little do you know, however, the book is authentic, penned by the hand of Aleister Crowley himself. The movement the incantation passes your lips, a portal to the underworld is opened in your bedroom and a horde of demons flow through ripping you apart before dragging your foolish soul to hell.

Police are baffled by your death. Detective Bill Robinson, the officer assigned to your case, becomes so obsessed that he's eventually thrown off the force and his wife leaves him. Broken, he puts a shotgun in his mouth and blows his brains out. His 8 year old son, Bill Jr. grows up without a father.

OK honestly I was against him at first too, but dragging it on like this is even worse than calling people plebs.

>>12648507
lol

>>12648576
crowley is a degenerate satanist who doesnt give a shit about Tradition

honestly never wanted the thread to be so bad. but i mean talking and recommending designers is like pizza in ck and slipknot in mu. i know it's less of a problem with frags since the hobby is kinda niche to begin with, but yeah. and if we had any sort of standards those ''Getting laid what should I get sauvage or invictus'' people wouldnt be welcomed here.

>>12649281
Found the niche snob

>>12649281
No, the problem is that you are trying to impose YOUR "standards" on other people. You don't seem to understand that just because you think one way doesn't mean that that is the ultimate and absolute truth. If you just had a little humility and kept that shit to yourself, we wouldn't have a problem.

My dad always used to tell me growing up, it's not always what you say, it's how you say it. If you just said "I don't like designer fragrances, personally, I feel they are generally lacking in quality" without adding on some bullshit like "and only plebs with no taste would ever wear them", that would be fine, but you don't do that. You purposely antagonist people then wonder why we all think you're an arrogant dickhead.

>>12649281
what the fuck is wrong with pizza? /ck/ is officially the worst board on 4chan

This has been a pretty morbid thread.
I asked in the previous thread about slightly feminine perfume. Tried the Black Orchid sample today, wasnt a big fan, the overall smell was Okay but it had one generally unpleasant note that occasionally popped up. While looking around I came across serge lutens de profundis. Is it any good?

>>12649281
Everyone's welcome here. These threads used to be pretty chill and friendly until you started shitting things up. If you want to be an elitist, maybe this isn't the place for you. The basenotes forums might be more your speed. You can go argue with FoxOnFluids about who's beautifull-scented penis is smaller over there.

>>12649314
oh yeah de profundis is really good. heavy as to what it evokes, it's almost like a drug. not for casual wear. at least not in the subburbs

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>>12649281
>honestly never wanted the thread to be so bad
Regular OP (Bondfag) here. You have steadily killed my enthusiasm for the general over the course of the past months, which in turn has blunted my interest in fragrance on the whole. This used to be a much nicer community and a more rewarding place to tend to. I learned a lot from the questions asked by everyone who participated, regardless of their relative experience or expertise. Nobody attacked anybody else because everyone was respectful of others' opinions.
I don't want to say that you aren't welcome in these threads, but if you feel that you are above the prevailing skill level of the average /frag/ anon, I strongly encourage you to take your pursuit of niche fragrance to the Basenotes forums. Please stop making every general about your opinions and how they are superior to others'. It's exhausting to dig through 150 Samplesperg related posts per thread to try and find the real fragrance discussion.

>>12649461
I agree entirely. These threads should be (and historically were) welcoming and inclusive. These threads are not for elitism, they are for fragrance enthusiasts of all stripes to discuss their love of fragrance and give recommendations.

Some people love the art of perfumery and collect niche fragrances for the feelings they evoke, and that's awesome. Some people just wear fragrances as a fashion acccessory or to attract girls, and that's cool too.

All are welcome here. If you have a problem with that, then this isn't the place for you.

>>12646678
>sex
f
>price range
under $200
>seasons/weather
summer/autumn/spring
>notes i like
aldehydic perfumes, powdery smelling perfumes
>notes i dislike
anything with patchoulli, anything that a hippy would smell like

ideally far reaching silliage, and long lasting

current perfumes are l'intrigante and chanel no 5 and i want to expand
l'intrigante is good but its silliage is shit and it lasts for like 3-4 hours
i like chanel no 5 for winter months

>>12649657
I should say, patchouli is an incredibly common note in perfumes in general. I wouldn't discount anything that has patchouli, it's often not too prominent. Also the patchouli that hippies wear is often very low quality artificial patchouli that doesn't smell much like actual patchouli.

I can certainly understand not liking fragrances that have very prominent patchouli notes, however.

>>12649281
Why do all the pertentious elitist cunts have to ruin everything on /fa/

>>12650195
more like everything on 4chan

>>12649281
That post just shows you trying to be an elitist and failing pretty hard. Your entire argument rests on 'Roja Dove doesn't like this, so I'm justified in this'. The problem is Roja is a fucking master perfumer and he isn't sitting around posting on a thread on 4chan. If you find the discussion too pleb for your tastes then go find another community to discuss your interests with. It's quite fucking simple. You're literally throwing a hissy fit because no one else gives a fuck about your 'standards'. Know what the best part about all of this is? Most niche houses and scents are absolute dog shit.They're unwearable, being ridiculously strong and overwhelming in most situations, dry down quite awfully and last for fuck all time. The same as designer scents. There's absolutely no one who's even remotely interested in fragrances that won't judge the merits of a scent based on the fucking scent, not the fucking house it's from.

>>12649657
prada infusion d'iris maybe

I want to smell like Petrichor. Please help me /fa/.

And how easily can people detect the smell of semen? I jerk off 4 or 5 times all through out the night on weekends and I don't want to open my door just to flood the house with the scent of my sperm. Do women enjoy the smell, say a single aunt a few months older than me?

>>12650515
Boy, do men enjoy the smell of pussy? No? Then what makes you think they enjoy you smelling like you jizzed yourself? It's obviously a much less strong fragrance, but still unpleasant.


That being said: Do your clothes have jizz on them or what? How about you? If not to either, you shouldn't smell like semen at all.

Where can I find 150ml Prada L'Homme in the US?

>>12650597
I sleep naked. A tad bit on my belly most of it on my hand with a pea sized amount of vapor rub for variety and a generous amount unscented lotion. It's wiped off with an off white Honduran made fruit of the loom tee.

I've read that women are able to choose the men they feel attracted to by simply smelling their unperfumed shirts. Can 5 hour old semen perhaps do the same?

>>12650667
what the fuck man

>>12650227
yeah you just said it hes a master perfumer, kind of the authority

>>12649323
That sounds pretty cool, defenitely gonna give it a try

serge lutens a la nuit, edible night, similar to amour nocturne as to what it evokes, but much more gourmand

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i dont know what to tell you folks, on one hand i hate pleb shit and we would be better off without it but on the other hand i acknowledge that the general has been much worse ever since i started being a personality, people just cant help themselves replying and calling me names, i know why, but then again, i got my reasons, but then again it's apparently making the general worse despite it all

>>12647848
I have Invictus & that watery mess does not last on my skin at all. If you can pull it off, more power to you.

>>12650913
Being a master perfumer and being able to articulate why you don't like something is a slightly different situation a mongoloid sitting around trying to shit post in a thread on 4chan because he doesn't like the current discussion. You don't even understand his fucking criticisms and have taken it as some sort of justification for disliking designer houses completely when his criticisms have a lot more to do with originality or lack of, something that niche houses aren't exempt from.

Well done on proving my point though and ignoring the rest of the post.

>i got my reasons, but then again it's apparently making the general worse despite it all

Christ, you really are dumb as a bag of rocks. Shitposting always makes the thread worse, you mongoloid. You've managed to kill the one remaining thread where there was some semblance of an actual discussion on this board. But, hey, now you can start your own thread and demand that people only talk about niche houses right? You can make your own infographic.

>>12651049
you dont get it, designers are one mass of shit, niches are plenty of uniques. you wont find anything great in designers. the potential is in niche. im well aware not all niche stuff is good, some being even worse than designers.

im NOT shitposting. thats your own opinion.

>>12651058
>you dont get it, designers are one mass of shit, niches are plenty of uniques

That shows how little you know about perfumes. When you know this little about the topic but insist on derailing the thread that is fucking shitposting. Again, if no one wants to discuss this shit with you here, shitposting isn't going to help you.

>>12651013
>>12651058
Stop. Just stop. You're obviously not getting the point people are trying to make. We've tried to be reasonable, we've tried everything we could think of to get you to understand why we don't like what you're doing. You just don't listen.

Your presence has undoubtedly made these threads worse. These used to be friendly, chill threads where we just talked about fragrances without needless elitism. Look at this thread. Look what you've done. This is an awful thread, and it's on you. YOU. Not us.

I'm fucking done with this. Posting here isn't fun anymore. Please leave and let us have our threads. You don't agree with us anyways, you think we're all a bunch of plebs, so why would you even want to be here? You're making everyone hate these threads and if this shit keeps up, they're just going to disappear because no one will bother making them anymore.

Go away. You are too toxic for fucking 4chan.

>>12651013
It's not everyone else making the place worse because they can't help but respond to you, you fucking narcissist. It's you. You're the cancer. Don't try to put this on anyone else. Shit was good here before you showed up, since you showed up, it's gone to shit. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to put two and two together.

Fuck off.

>>12651076
You know, I was one of the people who helped you and gave you recommendations when you first started coming here. I genuinely regret doing so now. You're like a stray cat I fed once and now you keep coming back and how,I got all fucking night outside my house.

Congratulations. Someone did something nice for you and you've repaid them by taking just a little bit of the happiness out of their life. I used to love these threads. You've ruined them for me.

>>12651076
???? thats literally what designer frags today are, if i dont take into account their more esoteric lines.

That's enough. It's clear how stubborn he is and just wants to have his own piece rather than a discussion.

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alright then, it seems we'll just never get along and I never wanted to make my favorite general on 4chan too bad. just dont enable entry-level designer shit ok?

remember me /frag/

>>12651108
Agreed. He isn't interested in discussing things, he's just masturbating.

Not really sure what to do, though. Ignoring him doesn't work because we saw what happened earlier in the thread. Someone new came in here looking for a recommendation and he started spouting off about how shit the fragrances the poor dude was asking about were. That kind of behavior undermines the entire purpose of these threads.

why is this a thread just buy cdni and call it a day

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and also keep in mind ive been misunderstood all along. thats all i had to say.

no disregard that i cant promise ill stop posting. i just wanna discuss frags god dammit!!

what would be reasonable would be recommending good frags instead of eros and la nuit to new people instead of letting them wander in the realm of designers because we didnt let them know there is actually better stuff out there. designers does NOT equal entry level. it just equals garbage. this all makes me sad especially for men such as >>12649461

>>12651122
Maybe if you can stop having only extreme views. Not everything is either absolute shit or god's gift to earth. Having blanket statements doesn't help too. Calling sauvage shit is fine but calling all designers shit is just narrow minded.

If you think fragrances is an art form then why don't you actually talk about a fragrance.

>>12651130
Dude, just stop responding to him. We've told him over and over why what he's doing is bad. It just goes around in circles. We try to explain that that's just his opinion, he asserts that his opinion is correct and that all designer frags are pleb shit for plebs, we tell him that's just his opinion...

He's never going to stop doing what he does. Just ignore him. If everyone just stops talking to him entirely, he'll eventually move on.

>>12651130
I would argue that calling Sauvage shit is not fine. Saying you think Sauvage is shit is. Slight difference, but an important one. Presenting your opinion is fine. Presenting your opinion as objective fact is not.

>>12651106
Except they aren't. You clearly know jack shit about perfumes. You're actually embarrassing as fuck.

To follow your analogy earlier. This is like someone getting introduced to /ck/ via pizza, then discovering that McDonalds exists and insisting that all pizzas are shit and McDonalds is the greatest thing ever because Ronald McDonald wrote a book about it and how no one can discuss anything but McDonalds.

Hint - I've chosen McDonalds on purpose because your tastes seem to be pedestrian as fuck.


>>12651122

No one wants to discuss shit with you because you're too retarded to differentiate between scents and houses. No one even remotely interested in perfumes does that. You're clearly insecure about your own tastes and try to pass that off as fact.

Enjoy spending the entire day shit posting in these threads though. Maybe at some point you'll take a look at yourself and realise how much of a joke you actually are.

>>12651135
Fair. I missed that but I had a different point about disliking something vs disliking everything with a certain label.

>>12651139
I should remind you of the timeline here as well. Samplesperg only discovered "McDonalds" less than 6 months ago. Before then, he'd never even eaten a burger. That he speaks so authoritatively about something he has so little experience with is laughable.

>>12651145
Yeah, I see what you mean. Like, saying you think Sauvage is shit is fine, dismissing all fragrances by Dior out of hand simply because you didn't like Sauvage is retarded.

>>12651135
There is a certain factual aspect to this as well. But you have to be able to articulate it better than the mongoloid is able to.

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Hey i need a REC
I need a fragrance that brings up things from Colonial/Industrial England. Earl gray, English Breakfast tea, tobacco,polished wood, smoke, gunpowder, cinnamon, sea salt, leather.
I dont know, if i smelled it i think it would bring up certain images in my head, like 1800s London architecture, frigates, black wool (pea)coats with leather gloves, a pub, a redcoat, words like Duckworth and Galloway.
Pic related also, maybe a little less grimy.

Id like it cheap, <150$ for 100ml
Burberry London and Bois 1920 real patchouly seem like good choices on this list, but is there more? Perhaps something more accurate.

>>12651338
Leather, spicy and hints of tobacco?

>>12651345
Yes
And Earl/EB Tea if such a fragrance exists

>>12651351
There are some tea fragrances but I can't really think of any tobacco/leather notes in them. Most of the tea fragrances I know are fairly light and have always evoked oriental vibes for me. I'll reccomend some stuff but you're going to need to try them to see if they evoke the feeling you're after. I've never really wanted to smell like industrial England, so.. yeah.

Farenheit has always evoked a slightly industrial feel for me, but I've never really felt it was Industrial England but more American industrial. I also can't really comment a lot on how much modern reformulations may have changed it, but it's worth having a look at that.

Naomi Goodsir's Cuir Velours is this slightly gourmand leathery scent that has this incredibly rich and intoxicating dry down. It's always smelt a little old-fashioned for me, but I've loved it since I first smelt it.

Olfactive Studio's Chambre noire, it's this smoky, spicy scent from what I remember.

Dior Homme Parfum a rather woody, powdery smell that may work because of its intensity.

Demeter has a scent called Earl Grey Tea, never actually smelt it myself though.

No idea if you can find this anywhere anymore because I think it's been discontinued but Eau du Fier by Annick Goutal may also have the notes you're looking for.

>>12651433
That is really helpful actually

>>12651112
we're going to make an effort to forget that you exist

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>>12651338
While it may be a bit pricier, Beaufort London specializes in evoking exactly the kind of setting you're looking for. I've only tried Fathom V from the line, it smelled like a sea battle that turns into a funeral, absolutely loved it and would cop if I could think of an occasion where it would be appropriate.

>>12651338
Penhaligon's The Tragedy of Lord George is the single most British scent in existence. It comes from a British house, it's notes include brandy and shaving soap, it even has a stag head on the cap.

It's pricey and doesn't have a lot of the notes you listed, but if you want something that evokes Victorian-era Britain, that's it.

>>12651139
BAD ANALOGY BRO

>>12651139
there is literally nothing wrong with pizza what the fuck

if /ck/ elitists somehow end up at a party do they refuse to eat whatever cheap pizza everybody orders? I'm fucking baffled that food elitism exists

>>12652050
No, they eat whatever's there and love it, then go home and shitpost about how everyone at the party was a pleb on /ck/ and masturbate to a picture of a perfectly-cooked wellington.

99.5% of all elitists in all fields are complete poseurs who only turn their noses up at "pleb shit" so people will think they're cool.

>>12652050
People like that don't go to parties. What you have to understand about people like that is that they are the way they are precisely because they have so little going on for them. They don't have friends, they don't have a relationship, they have nothing else in their life that makes them happy, so they find one thing and cling to it.

They make their one thing into their entire life and as a result, they need to feel like they're at an elite level at their one thing, because to be simply another average enthusiast means that their entire life is mediocre. Their one thing becomes a microcosm for their entire life, so if they aren't amongst the best, then they have to look inwards and admit that they're actually a pathetic nobody.

I feel bad for people like that, honestly. I mean, they're completely insufferable, but their lives are really quite incredibly sad.

>>12652158

Is it feels hour for frag general?

saw a bottle of Pure Coffee for $22 at a marshalls nearby. I already have pure malt, pure wood, and original A Men. Should I cop this one too?

>>12652074
>>12652158
dude what the fuck

I know elitists are autistic but its fucking food, who cares what it is as long as it tastes good, I mean look at this shit https://youtu.be/4Qa6QXBxxWw

>>12652246
Because to elitists, it's not "just food". Like, look at /v/. So many people there love to shit on people, call them shitters and casuals and loudly announce how superior their taste is and how much better they are at video games. Then they go to school and get bullied and sit by themselves in the lunch room because they have no friends, go home and get ignored by their parents who they feel like they've disappointed.

It's just video games to us, but to them, it's literally the only metric in life that matters because it's all they have.

I was thinking of copping AdG Profumo, since the incense is a nice twist... But I don't want to smell old and I've heard it has that vibe? Also my boss wears the regular AdG and I'd rather not smell the same as him

>>12652236
All of the Mugler "pure" frags are fairly solid. At that price, you really might as well.

>>12652303
The 'old vibe' is like 25+

>>12652276
I refuse to believe it, that is too absurd even for me

Quick question, is it generally recommended to keep a fragrance for SS and one for FW minimum? My current smellywater is musky (Fahrenheit) and I don't really feel like it fits the season all that well, so I haven't been wearing it.

>>12653004
I would say that's generally a good idea. Depends, though, there are fragrances like Creed MI, for example, that you can basically wear year round, night and day. Personally, I'd recommend having a rotation anyway, just for variety's sake and so you don't become anosmic to your fragrance.

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>>12646678
Are the batch differences in creed frags really that bad? will I lose sleep over it?

>>12652848
visit r9k sometimes

>>12653234
>>12653234
Some people will tell you yes, some will say no. Personally, I find the variations to be noticeable, but not that significant. If you like Aventus, you'll like any batch of Aventus, you just might like some batches a bit more.

To me, it's not worth the hassle and expense of getting bottles from specific batches, doesn't make enough of a difference for the hoops you need to jump through.

>>12653234
yes and yes, dont bother

a taste of heaven by kilian, terrible so far

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Did I fuck up?

>>12653537
No, but you didn't do good either.

>>12653333
>3333
Quads confirm

>>12652050
>baffled that food elitism exists
Uh... I'm not.

I'd be surprised to see someone so used to fancy food that they could not eat anything else, but food is definitely something that you can lose yourself in. I've been practicing making entrecôte, and I improve my routine every time.

>>12653721

I guess if samplesperg was blending to try and make a perfume for himself to the point where most materials in designer frags seem inferior by comparison, then it would be more understandable reason for elitism.

>>12653035
Ah, good idea, thanks! Do you have any recommendations for fragrances at a relatively low price point? I'm but a poor student and spending over 50€ on a fragrance would kill my budget.

>>12653766
>>12653035
Or is there some kind of wiki on it? The sticky wiki is pretty skim on fragrance.

>>12653721
I don't even know what that is

>>12653766
search youtube top cheap fragrances, a lot of videos there.
I've also been looking at the armaf house they are really cheap for supposedly good quality fragrances and niche clones but often mixed opinions in this general when they come by. Right now waiting for tres nuit which should come somewhere next week.

>>12653834
thank you for your help anon

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>>12653766
Pic related and a number of Lalique frags sell for about $30 usd for 100ml (not counting the shipping).

You do not want to blind buy when you're exploring within this price range, however.

Frags as these prices tend to be met with polarized opinions.

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Thoughts on this Guess fragrance?

>>12653782
It's known as rib, ribeye or club in other places in the world. Those cuts may be slightly different than the european entrecôte though. It's just the name I know it by, anyhow.

>>12653740
I don't know if I agree with that analogy. I don't need to know how to cook fish well to know a good salmon dish with good raw ingredients. It means that the nuances of the cooking might be lost on me as merely being "good" (assuming that is the case), but I'd be able to tell that the salmon was fresh and not over or undercooked.

Samplesperg is more like the kind of person who doesn't eat fast food on principle. They have skilled chefs, just like cheaper frags have perfumers behind them. Otherwise those things wouldn't appeal to so many people.

more sprays = more longevity or more performance or both?

>>12654147
well i eat fast food sometimes but i never eat from fast food chains like mcdonald and burger king last time was like 7 years ago

>>12654147
Well no, he's more like someone who's only eaten at 1 or 2 fast food places, then made the decision based on that that all fast food places are terrible and that he will only eat at fancy French restaurants, despite not actually knowing anything about French food. He just heard it was good and it has the reputation of being high-quality, so it's now the only thing that will do.

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I bought this the other day for $3.99 to complement my aesthetic. Did I dun good?

>>12654367
And he doesn't eat full meals from actual French restaraunts, he goes to supermarkets and eats the free samples with the french flags in them and judges the cuisine based on that, while insisting that he'll totally eat a meal at a french restaurant one day. He also loudly insists that anyone who doesn't eat only fancy french food like him is a loser with pleb taste who should be run out of every culinary community online so that people can talk about nothing but how great fancy french food is.

I have a 7 year old thing of pic related, is it ok to use after all that time, it still smells nice in my opinion.

>>12654377

You should empty it and put something else in, then you get the best of both worlds, a nice scent in a sleazy container.

Sort of on the topic of sleazecore, does anyone have good recommendations for what to wear at the poker table, I play quite regularly for about 4-8 hour sessions, but its worth remembering you sit very close to other people and I wouldn't want to wear anything that was too overpowering.

>>12654502
you mean refill it? where to by the original liquid?

>>12654502
Fuck, I'd wear the strongest thing I could find if I was playing poker. Give your opponents something else they have to think about.

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>>12654490

Forgot pic

>>12654490
As long as it was stored properly (out of direct sunlight, not in extreme heat, cold, or temperature fluctuations), it should be fine. Top notes might be degraded slightly, but it should still be perfectly wearable.

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should I buy this? smells very good, has good silage and gets a lot of compliments. But I feel like it lacks any sort of originality. its not the kinda sent nobody has smelt before. I think that it's losing its shock factor as its beginning to be used by everyone. I'm conflicted

>>12654799
If you like it, go for it. It smells nice, women like it, they're not gonna stop liking it just because it's fairly common. Also, people tend to overestimate how many people actually wear fragrances, and very few people actually know frags well enough to pick out a specific one on someone else.

>>12654541

or mix scent together, layer super powerful ones with notes that don't mix well and become very cloying.

>>12654983
I'd use my Zoologist Bat. I love the stuff, it's super interesting, but it's not something you want to wear around other people. I'd just do like 20 sprays of the shit, sit there smelling like an actual cave.

Or go with the ol' 30 sprays of Secretions Magnifique.

>>12648353
>>12648359
>>12648360
LOL

Dior sauvage and Versace Eros smell like fuckin chit. Buy the fuckin la nuit man

>>12654424
bad analogy because who the fuck sticks to food samples

>>12654799
PLEB SHIT
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>>12655075
it seems most people dont even think secretion magnifique smells bad, everytime i make them try it they say it smells like flowers.. to repulse yourself go with SM but to repulse others try Slumberhouse Mare

>>12655677
Who the fuck sticks to perfume samples?

>>12655699
me because i can use them many times and they dont spoil like food and also because why would i buy a bottle of something i dont like so much

stop making bad analogies

How do you guys apply your fragrances? How much is too much? For example I spray three times: once one the neck, and once on each wrist. Amy I overdoing it?

>>12647233
How do you find the performance on MI? I have a bottle and while I do love the smell I feel like it doesn't last long before becoming a skin scent.

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i use pic related unscented deodorant and smell like cigarettes most of the time, am i /fa/?

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good stuff so far

>>12655860
disregard that, not that great, wouldnt buy

>>12655860
its song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmJefsOErr0

>>12655773
One spray to the chest right after a shower, two more (chest and lower neck) right before heading out the door to work.

Let that initial spray dry down, allows for all the notes to be smelled.

>>12655773
No matter how many autist reviewers say to, never ever spray behind the ears. It's kinda funny that some reviewers that are clearly in it for money and free shit but pretend to be all about perfume are like "oh don't forget to spray behind the ears!". The glands there will either make your scent not evolve properly or smell downright awful. Another thing not to do is rub wrists (gently dab instead), also another autist thing they say to do is spray it in the air and walk through it, this is wasting perfume. It was so annoying watching this one woman act all narcissistic about it and trying to make a dance move out of spraying into the air and moving her body and hair into it.

In terms of using moisturising cream to help with longevity apply the moisturiser gently after you have sprayed, not before. Imagine it like you are spraying a moisturising cream with alcohol, which breaks the cream down and not really increasing the longevity of your perfume. For optimal coverage and evolution of your fragrance, spray about 8 inches away from where you want to apply.

I want a lavender frag for autumn and winter, mainly casual use but perhaps used at work once in a blue moon.
Is Azzaro pour homme really cloying or too 80s to be pulled off? Le Male is an option I am considering having tested on card....

>>12655773
One thing I like to do is spray the pits of my elbows. It seems to vastly increase the longevity of whatever fragrance I'm using.

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>>12656240
>Azzaro pour homme

It can be cloying, but you don't wanna overspray it.

When you overspray it, all you get is a lavender bomb with some anise. A couple sprays is enough to be able to smell its shit ton of notes.

My only complaint is the strange dry down. It's kind of a vetiver and sandalwood smell.

These days, it's one of those hate or love frags that can teach you a tough lesson if you blind buy it.

>>12655760
So question: if niche fragrances are so wonderful and magical, how come you've sampled 200 of them and still haven't found one you want to buy?

>>12656026
>The glands there will either make your scent not evolve properly or smell downright awful

The fuck are you talking about? It's a bad spot to spray but that's just not true. Also you're kind of autistic too.

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Any experience with this?

>>12656457

It's sebaceous glands. Literally it does turn the scent. Just because you don't know basic biology doesn't mean someone is autistic.

>>12656473
Literally it doesn't. I have never heard of such an instance especially when people do commonly spray behind the ear.

>>12656470
Smells good, if you like it also try Spicebomb

>>12648307
I've bought from him and one or two others with great success.

>>12648472
>organ meat
Well, at least something of value was posted in the worst /frag/ thread I've seen in years. Disheartening but good to know. I fucking love liver.

>>12656470
Very good budget cologne.

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>>12648520
>The last words you ever say to your wife are
>All designer frags are trash...

>>12649306
>If you just said
I'd think anyone who made such a broad, obviously impossibly incorrect statement like that was an idiot, no matter how nicely they phrased it.

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>>12651132
>Dude, just stop responding to him
>Dude, just stop responding to him
>Dude, just stop responding to him
>Dude, just stop responding to him
>Dude, just stop responding to him

>>12656026
>gently dab instead
Right. We don't want to "bruise" those molecules! This is hogwash. Rubbing is fine. Frantically sawing your wrists against each other like you're trying to start a fire might slightly accelerate progression so you wouldn't enjoy the top notes as long.

>>12655773
I do 2-5 sprays, depending on frag, atomizer, occasion, etc. Most frags 3-4 sprays. 1-2 on chest for nice wafts from collar all day, 1 on back of neck, 1-2 on forearm(s). Avoid proximity to nose, i.e. face/front of neck, to prevent olfactory fatigue. Under clothing mutes projection. On hair/clothing holds on to top notes longer.

Best to test application in more casual situations and best to ask others about projection, rather than rely on your own nose. And always err on the side of caution if unsure in more important occasions.

>>12656240
ApH is widely considered a classic and excellently composed. I don't necessarily disagree, but anise is my kryptonite. It just dominates the frag for me and I can't stand it.

What factors do you normally use to recommend a scent for someone?

>>12656576
Yup. Organ meat tends to be high in purines which lead to the production of uric acid in your body. Too much uric acid can lead to gout and kidney stones. Doesn't mean you should stop eating the stuff, but go easy on it. I've had both gout and kidney stones and neither is something you want happening to you.

Be safe, fragbros.

>>12656678
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>>12646692

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Since no one speak about fem frags, thoughts on it?

Looking for recommendations, feel free to suggest a 5+ as I will get samples

Male.
Include the expensive scents, if I like the samples I will spend up to about £250.
All seasons, but happy to spread across 2 scents, I won't be wearing to day job as its industrial, but I often meet with clients. We restore old bikes and cars, so mostly dealing with either hipsters or luxury car guys at these events, socially I am normally playing poker. 6"3, muscular, blue-collar worker.
I am interested in what Tobacco and Sandalwood are like, I also like Vanilla, but none are a deal-breaker.

>>12656850
Parfums De Marly Herod, Tom Ford Tobacco Vanille, and if you're willing to go super high-end, Roja Enigma are the best tobacco/vanilla scents out there IMO. Roja Enigma, in particular, is maybe my favorite fragrance ever. You can buy the EDP concentration, don't worry about the extrait, the EDP still lasts 8-10 hours and projects very well.

Creed Aventus, Millesime Imperial, and Green Irish Tweed are also solid fragrances for any man. I like Creed Royal Oud as well, very nice slightly sweet, spicy-creamy woody scent.

>Samplesperg spends half the thread in self-loathing
>Comes back to shit post after jerking off a few times and posting on incel

Good stuff.

>It's sebaceous glands.

Scebaceous glands are all over your skin except your palm and soles. You don't know basic biology it seems.

>>12651860
I cant love Penhaligon's no matter how much I try. All their fragrances seem very sheer, even their newer travel collection which includes oud etc.

The only winner from the house in my opinion is Sartorial, a very British barbershop fougere.

>>12656990
The general became a joke. Get rid of >>12646692 because all it does is attract huge clueless faggots especially with the "muh ephemera" shit

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Did anyone sample any of the new Dior Collection fragrances?

Mssr Demachy went a bit mad/LVMH went mad with greed and released 6 (I think) new fragrances in the Private Collection at once. I'm not too impressed with the results.

They're all very sheer and are feel like exceedingly simple solinotes. They're nowhere near as interesting as the existing perfumes, and many can hardly be said to fit the "unisex" bill. I've only liked "Ballade Sauvage" so far, which reminds me of Ninfeo Mio from Annick Goutal with less of an emphasis on lemon and more on fig.

But they pale in comparison to the much more interesting compositions like Bois d'Argent, Leather Oud, New Look 1947, Mitzah, (and my God, Encre Noire!) etc. Shame about the dilution of this range in my opinion.

>>12657089
Sorry, I meant 8. I attached the picture later without counting.

I mean, "Sakura" really? That's Body Shop levels of complexity and depth.

>>12657067
Nah. Feel free to make your own general without it. But I guess you can't handle the rejection of people not posting in your thread in an anonymous board?

>Dior Homme Intense
>2 sprays behind the ears
>1 behind the neck
>1 on chest
>2 small sprays on my shoulders
Why couldn't I smell this shit? If I do a single spray on both my forearms I can smell it more clearly for some reason.

>>12657096
>But I guess you can't handle the rejection of people not posting in your thread in an anonymous board?

The fuck are you talking about? autistic faggot.
Get some Secretions Magnefique it suits you

>>12656939

Cheers for the tips, Ill look into them

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>>12656850
An amazing sandalwood is XJ Richwood by Xerjoff. I know, it's really pricey but I managed to get decants from friendly staff and it's really amazing.

Here's a long but very good breakdown of the scent (I'm not affiliated to this blog):
http://www.kafkaesqueblog.com/2014/09/12/xerjoff-richwood-smoky-sandalwood/

>>12657178
Fuck. I've been looking for a good sandalwood frag and I just today ordered a batch of samples. Really want to try that one now, but I'm not gonna be getting samples again for quite some time. Mostly ordered these ones because I'm headed back out to Amsterdam again in a couple months and might want to grab another bottle of something fancy while I'm there.

>>12657101
Olfactory fatigue. Sometimes less is more.

>>12657324
so I probably stunk of Intense meanwhile I couldnt smell a thing

>>12657357
Very probably.

Is Fahrenheit considered woody? Is "musky" a thing? That's the only one I got.

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>>12657482
>Fahrenheit
>woody
>musky
Top marks. Funny, the top voted note on FG is leather, which I detect, but it's far overshadowed by the gasoline-like violet leaf for me with the original formulation stuff.

>>12657499
Yeah I'm not even really getting the leather. What's the recommended go-to for a summer/spring smell in the low price range? I had Diesel Fuel for Life until it ran out this year, it was really citrus-y.

>>12657509
>summer/spring smell
Not sure exactly what you meant, but if it was "smells like" then 212 Men has a great synthetic but pleasing fresh cut grass note.

>>12657357
obviously

why would you even spray that much jesus

i don't know much abt fragrance, but i assume it mixes with ur own odour making a whole new smell? then how can u review/suggest fragrances to other people, they'll smell different with the same fragrance wouldn't they? i never understood the concept of these threads

>>12657703
>a whole new smell
It's not like one guy can apply 4711 and it will change to A*Men. It's very subtle, but some frags just smell better/worse on some people than others.

>>12656819
As a guy I like it a lot. Could be I came to like it because I liked who it was on

is millesime imperial worth buying in the winter

or really any creed for that matter

>>12657860
I would say yes. MI is very versatile. It's an aquatic citrus, but it has enough substance to stand up in cold weather as well.

For winter time, Royal Oud is pretty great as well.

>>12657880
but is it worth blind buying? it's on sale for like $130 and cheap enough to impulse buy but close enough to winter to make me feel like there's no point

>>12657886
At that price, I'd pull the trigger on it. Worst case scenario, you can just wait until next summer to wear it, it's not gonna go bad. But like I said, it works ok during winter, and consider: most of the time during winter, you'll probably be indoors in a heated building anyway.

MI is a fantastic scent, you really can't go wrong with it. I've never met anyone who outright didn't like it. It's a pretty safe buy, especially at that price.

What deodorant do you guys use? Is it bad to mix scented deodorant and after-shave together? Is it best to just use anti-perspirant roll on?

>>12657897
any chance I'll end up with a shit batch? I know creed stuff varies a lot, it's off of fragrancenet

also I'm 20 and don't want to seem like a tryhard

>>12657904
Like I said, MI is incredibly versatile. Really anyone can pull it off. That's one of the best things about it, actually, how universal it is. You won't come off as a tryhard, you will however smell classy as fuck. I should also add, women do seem to absolutely love it. It's by far my most complimented scent.

Honestly, I find the whole batch variation thing to be a little overblown. I'd say the difference between batches is maybe 10%. Just my opinion, of course, but I would say any batch of MI is going to be worth wearing.

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>>12657900
This stuff works well for me, where Tom's didn't, and Trader Joe's cotton stuff got discoed.

>>12657900
Oh, and yeah, you don't want to wear anything that will clash with your SotD. Luckily most deodorants don't have the performance of an EdT.

>>12657909
neat, I think I'll order a bottle then

>>12656456
only sampled 100

would still buy a bottle of the stuff i tried before buying designer shit

>>12656819
sweet and powerful syrupy smell. like pink sugar in beast mode projection.

Which xerjoff frags should I check that has a great projection/longevity and crowd pleasing scent. (price doesn't matter)

>>12657677
I was going to be outside all day

>>12657089
eau noire will always be the best

thank you hedi

should i blind buy perry ellis 360 red?
i know its not too expensive, but i cba throwing away money

>>12659203
I can't imagine anyone disliking it. As one who generally cautions against buying blind, I can't think of a safer blind purchase. And I actually prefer it to AdG. Just wore it the other day, actually.

>>12659353
This desu, it's a great blind buy. Super fresh and oddly less grating than AdG despite being made cheaper.

>>12658554
I hear More Than Words is really crowd pleasing.

>>12657904
Stop, don't buy MI if it's not a 2015 batch. Just got burned hard on a 2016 batch, smells like fucking floor cleaner mixed with Versace Pour Homme. Totally lacks the elegant melon DNA of the 2015 batches. It's like it's a different fragrance entirely, Aventus's "variations" pale in comparison

Where should I go to shop for men's fragrances? I was in Nordstrom's for other reasons and just looked over in that area, and it didn't have any of the ones that I thought I might try.

>>12659383
Fuck yeah! Just checked the batch number on my backup bottle, it's from 2015.

Prada cologne is top tier

>>12659383
too late

with my luck it'll definitely be a shit batch

>>12660438
I wouldn't worry about it too much. Even a shit batch of MI is still a very nice scent. Besides, if you don't know the other batches, you don't know what you're missing out on anyways, right?

>>12660453
that's true but my autism won't be happy about it at all

>>12660476
But, I mean, you don't know what a good batch and a bad batch smells like, so you might get a great bottle and think it's a shit one.

>>12660482
but muh autism

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>>12646678
>>12660791

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it's alright but I thought it would be better