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There was a good laborwave /fa/ thread going on here a few weeks

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There was a good laborwave /fa/ thread going on here a few weeks ago.

Can someone posts fits that would fit the socialist, laborwave, communist narrative?

ITT: Leftist fashion, and socialism in general!
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I want to get an army green bomber jacket, and use this as an armband
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>>12285272
I would use it as a patch tbqhwu
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>>12285264
i just wear pic related open with dark jeans and boots
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Is this the new cringe thread?
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>>12286503
>pristine jacket
>"laborwave"
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>>12285264
>trad menswear
>labor
lenin is for real indulging in the superior quality tailoring of the bourgeoisie there, OP.
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>socialists say that there wouldn't be a lack of creativity under socialism
>all their memes are expropriated from /pol/
really makes you think
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>>12285264
Look for Soviet socialist realism art as an inspiration and focus on the themes that those pieces represent. First and foremost is the glorification of proletariat imagery, so the standard look should be clothes that a member of the working class would wear such as thick work shirts and pants that someone could actually do physical labour in. This means avoid very skinny jeans if you don't want to look like a suburban millennial tryhard playing dress-up as someone who works for a living. Which you probably are, but at least avoid looking like it.

Add elements of military apparel, such as a field jacket or boots. Don't go overboard with them. Your goal is a militarized worker, not a guard on the Berlin Wall. In many Soviet art pieces, even soldiers tend to have somewhat disheveled coats rather than spotless uniforms, which has more of a fascist aesthetic. Avoid heavy use of black unless you want to be confused for a Neo Nazi football hooligan.

In the OP image, Lenin is wearing a suit, but the coat he is wearing looks coarse and weathered, resembling a workman's coat. Likewise, Lenin is holding a newsboy cap that was a staple item of Russian laborers in that period. Rather than dressing like a worker, he brings in a few elements to display his political sympathies while still dressing like a member of the intelligentsia. This is a route you could take if you don't have the physical look to actually pull off full working class attire.

Don't look to what actual citizens in the Soviet Union wore for inspiration, as actual Soviet fashion often rebelled against the state imagery and adopted a look emulating Western youth culture. Like with everything else in the USSR, the state propaganda was pretty far from the reality. The exceptions to this are actual images of militarized laborers, such as the soviets and militias from the early stages of the Russian Revolution, and, ironically, anti-Soviet protesters as in pictures from the Hungarian Revolution.
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>>12286701
>Rather than dressing like a worker, he brings in a few elements to display his political sympathies while still dressing like a member of the intelligentsia.
Just like a clueless douche would wear a fedora with his t-shirt/cargos/sneakers ouftit to display his superior intelligence and taste while still dressing like a member of the gamestop consumer base.
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>>12286717
Fedora with Che Guevara graphic tee
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>>12286569
wow i think i hate socialism now
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>>12286782
>i think
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>fags pretending to be communists as a reaction against the fags who pretend to be nazis as a reaction against the fags who pretend to be tolerant as a reaction against the fags who pretend to be virtuous as a reaction against the fags who pretend to be rebellious as a reaction against the fags who pretend to be the best

fuck

has contrarianism gone too far?

Or do I need to go even further and pretend to be something commies don't like?
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>>12286790
>Corporatism/Capitalism
>Fascism
>Monarchist
Take your pick
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>>12286800
contrarian monarchism is a good option

contrarian corporatism/capitalism and contrarian fascism are already what contrarian communists are posturing against.

alright then

VIVE LE ROY
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>>12286813
Louis XX is pretty effay.
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>>12285264
But how can you have fashion if everyone has to be equal? If everyone is wearing the same clothes can you call it fashion?
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>>12286813
Contrarian monarchism has already been done.
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>>12286821
Luxuries would still be produced in a socialist system.
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>>12286828
Who determines the class for 'Luxuries/Branded and 'Peasant/Normal'?
>inb4 classes for fashion too!
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>>12286828
I didn't see to many luxuries in any of the gommie systems. Also isn't the whole communist system diametrically opposed to art and individuation through something like fashion as it would stand to create inequality? I mean even if you let people choose their type of luxuries some peoples would run out before others and that in and of itself would create increasing amounts of inequality.
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>>12286847
Wouldn't that just create a class of ultra-fit people that do more than everyone else and have more than everyone else? Especially when the government determines the pay for their work. All it would take is one person who finds a job with an unequal amount of time/work to pay and then abuses it to gain more labor credit and then trade it for resources and those resources for more labor credit Ad infinitum until the hierarchical class system is re-established?
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>>12286860
>>12286854
Deleted my original post because I realized what you were asking after I posted it. The people who would determine luxury/if you had anyone determining it would depend on the system. People working to get a ton of labor vouchers/cash wouldn't be a problem because they put in the work to earn the vouchers. The goal isn't to make sure that everyone has an equal outcome. I don't know how non market socialists deal with black markets because I'm a market socialist.
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>>12286800
Monarchist fashion when? Actually better yet, can I dress up like a roman emperor?
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>>12286895
Who is the system? Can workers mark up their clothing by themselves to create artificial hype?
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>>12286911
Filthy peasants must abide certain rules like no purple and crown.
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>>12286912
The system being which socialist system is being implemented. In market systems you could create artificial hype.
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>>12286919
Jokes on you dear property, I am the emperor and your rules are spooks. Purple time is now.
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>>12286925
Who the fuck is exactly the Socialist system? Who set the rules?
>>12286927
>can I dress up like a roman emperor?
Why is an emperor asking a filthy peasant an opinion? You could go out naked for all I care
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>>12286925
Can we trade the shirts for a loom to make shirts then dictate our own prices for the shirts we make on our own time?
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>>12286930
I mean system in the sense of the specific ideological system. Stalinism is radically different than market socialism but both are socialist systems.
>>12286931
Yes, you just can't use the loom to extract surplus value from others labor.
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>>12286942
So I can't get someone else to work my loom in return for shirts? But I can give them the loom and let them make two shirts in exchange for one of the shirts and my loom back when they are done then sell the shirt I got for lending my loom out?
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>>12286949
So the Government dictates then. If a certain design shirt is popularized by the peasants but the cost to produce them is low cost, can the factory artificially upscale the price due to overwhelming demand?
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>>12285264
>Leftist fashion
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>>12286981
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>>12286984
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>>12286512
Every jacket is new and pristine at some point, it's up to you to actually use it so it will become worn out.
But I guess you never worked a day in your useless life, so you just buy pre-used clothes.
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:)
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>>12286821
American education
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>>12287380
If iPhones were to be mass produced to ensure everyone owns it and reduced to affordable prices, would it still be considered a luxury item?
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>>12285264
*sniff*
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>ITT: Leftist fashion, and socialism in general!
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>ITT: Edgy millenials that have never broke a sweat in their life
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>>12286854
Maybe but you aren't bound to perfectly replicate it.
You can mix the utilitarian parts with traditional parts like the bandana in >>12286701 or the suit in OP.
Shawls are a great way to add uniqueness but you gotta wear them tied right, not flowing around you like a cape.
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>>12287423
what a fucking manlet.
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>tfw not a communist
>tfw try to be apolitical
>tfw love the stressed workwear look a lot of Soviet pre-war and post-war photos have
>tfw we can never have good threads about this or right wing imagery and aesthetics because unfashionable retards bring their personal political beliefs into the discussion and shit up the thread.

I hate all of you
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>>12287380
>Fashion is expression of individuality and innovation, it's a way to show yourself off by being unique
>Gommunism is absolute equality and stagnation due to the lack of competition
>The two are compatible
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>>12287809
Nazi wear is sexy. Those hugo boss uniforms are 10/10
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>>12287220
Fucking ravaged him
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>>12287809
you don't have to dress your preferred style to some politic agenda
stressed workwear is where plenty of contemporary avant garde artisanal brands strive these days
just make a thread without obvious political OP
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>>12287809
There's nothing fashionable about being left or right wing. Stop playing dress up and pretending to be something you're not.
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>tfw just grew out of the "communism works in theory" phase
Philosophically speaking communism is a garbage ideology. A society in without hierarchy is a doomed one, as much as it may hurt your feelings
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>>12287809
>gommies are making use of this board to promote communism
>ITT: Leftist fashion, and socialism in general!
>blames muh right wing and the big bad nazis for shitting on it
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>>12288283
stockholm syndrome much
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I copped a Che Guevara T-shirt because I like his quotes on fags and niggers

Do I belong here now my proletariat brothers?
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>>12288015
>hugo boss uniforms
Ignorant retard.
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>>12288366
Why do 4chan fascists and 4chan communists think that this style belongs to them/represents them?
There's nothing political about a black sweater and slim trousers.
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>>12289174
>On the street some black dude wears the gommie shirt
>Hey anon i like your shirt brother! Are we going to take back the power from those greedy capitalist to the workers?
what do?
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>>12289197

it makes me think "beret-wearing communist black guys in the 70s" personally
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>>12289203
According to my post that wouldn't be uncomfortable at all

Seeing as I said I like the post about "we will give to them what they gave to the revolution"
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>>12289203
>>12289217
*like the quote
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>>12286701
autism
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sanguinetti and debord
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>>12289197
its based on the look intelectuals on both side of the political spectrum to wear on the 20s-30s, when both the soviet union and fascists countries started to rise. Most of these people were killed later on by their own goverment though
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>>12287220
GOT HIM
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a lot of french companies that make chore jackets still print their logos in red
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>>12287220
armchair workers btfo
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>>12286790
You realise the original fascists were also a reaction to something, right? Literally every political movement has been formed in reaction to something, this contrarianism meme needs to fucking die.
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Socialist fashion is a contradiction in terms. There's isn't supposed to be fashion or luxury in a socialist society
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>>12291768
>I don't understand anything about politics
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>>12291797

Politics is not intellectually rigorous enough to bother studying

If you'd ever studied economics you would know why socialism doesn't work
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>>12290431
so qt
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>>12291805
I was criticizing how you think ideologes are parodies of themselves but you just pointed out you studied a field that's mostly gross generalisations so I rest my case.
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>>12291814

Socialism is a bunk ideology that shouldn't be celebrated in any way
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>>12291805
>ive been an economics student for 2 years and i think im so much smarter than people such as Russell, Marx and Hegel I can dismiss their ideas offhandedly
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>>12288371
Their sweaters say "cold"
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>>12288015
They were manufactured by hugo boss NOT DESIGNED you ignorant fuck. You reflect your political views
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>>12291830

Seeing as Marx and Hegel didn't have a single good idea between them, it's pretty easy to dismiss them as thinkers. I'll take Hayek and Schopenhauer, thank you.
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>>12291833
kek he fucking pissed himself
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>>12285264
"laborwave"
you're just straight out copying /pol/s memes.

What is this? 9gag? iFunny? Facebook?
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What kind of labor do you guys do anyway? I mean if you're American aren't you all wearing Uniforms of some sort?

Hell I would think the only laborers around here now wear those neon green and orange tops like contractors.
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>>12292074
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/pol/ has already co-opted that style. Do something original for once.
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>>12287393
Greetings fellow litizen
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>>12291838
just realized that too. What a fucking weird group of people.
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>>12292080
where in philly is this?
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>>12292216
This picture smells like philly and i dont understand why
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BPP were some bad motherfuckers.
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Labor is where it's at.
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sick coat Karl
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Dior have been all over the labourer aesthetic this fashion week
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>sheltered middle class white kids discussing how to dress like the proletariat on an anime imageboard
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>>12288371
w2c cyka sweater?
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>>12292153
Do people actually read his books?
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>>12292847

no but i watch his youtube vids

pretty comfy desu
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Shoot yourself
Fashion should not be politics
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>>12291856
Are you retarded ? It's water to wash off the tear gas. You can clearly see that his face and tee are wet too.
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>>12292847
He's just a meme as far as I know, but I've seen one or two of his videos & he's p funny
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>>12288961
nigga what
>tfw we can never have good threads about this or right wing imagery

ABOUT THIS

lrn2readpl0x
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>>12288012
>thinking private and personal property are the same

i wouldn't be so smug posting that
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>>12285264
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good thread
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>>12285264
Yeah man being poor is like so fashionable
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>>12286828
no they wouldn't
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>>12294355
Wearing $500 shoes that look like shit is though right?
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>>12294360
Yall dont know bout Yeezy get on my level you bunch of Threeple (sheeple stuck in the third dimension)
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>>12294355
but... those people ARE fashionable, at least better than the kids in our waywt.
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>>12292809
cool af
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Go to your local goodwill or freetex, pick up boots that are too big, baggy semi-dressy pants or denim, some shirts that probably don't fit and a huge le-army-surplus jacket. What a shit thread. If you want to dress like someone who don't get to chose their clothes try and limit yourself.
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>>12286701
Funny... most of these things cost a lot of money nowadays
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>>12287393
I do not think that is him
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>>12288036
ratherpic related than neo-nazis to be honest
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>>12289197
you must be fooling yourself if you think there is anything beyond the reach of poltics
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soviet propaganda was effay as fuck
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>>12292354
this doc is absolutelly amazing
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>>12285264
love the thread comrades up with the revolution
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>>12291846
ur a fuckin retard.
Hayek said everything that took us out of serfdom was what caused it. What a dipshit.
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>>12286984
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>>12287393
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Wfy9uXX5qo

*adjusts shirt*
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>>12294255
its piss. standard trump supporter really
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>>12288283
>grew out
10 thousand you dont even know what marxist theory is about
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>>12286701
Posting here some pictures from Spanish Civil War, including some of counter-coup uprisings in Barcelona and Madrid and International Brigade members.

http://www.english.illinois.edu/maps/scw/photessay.htm
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>>12286828

no they are not, the closer system to communism that is still able to have luxuries is syndicalism , anything more collectivist than that is "boredom will make us equal"
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>>12294335

>implying private property exists in communism

the concept of ownership is incompatible with communism, whatever you might think its yours you are actually just borrowing it from society
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>>12295095
My favourite photo of the Spanish Civil War. Love it.

btw the propagandistic banners of the conflict are fucking amazing.
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Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
https://www.gommies.gom/fug/
https://www.gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohshid/
https://www.gommies.gom/1984/
https://www.gommies.gom/guck/
https://www.gommies.gom/probaganda/
https://www.gommies.gom/XDDDD/
https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/
https://www.gommies.gom/benis/

_________________________________


Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
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>>12296465
you are a funny guy
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>>12296465
Imagine spending this much time of your life to shit on something that doesn't affect your life at all.
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>>12296465
what the fuck
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Not exactly labor, but I kind of like Méluche's red scarf he always wears.
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>>12286981
Cherrypicking
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>>12292802
there is no middle class anymore
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>>12285264
just wear mil surp/outdoor clothes
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>>12297553
>has never gone without food
>running water
>electricity
>posts on a brazilian organic coffee making forum
>about how bad life is

What a whiny bitch
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>>12298119
boot licking cuck
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>>12298160
>whining about muh disappearing middle class in between binge buying name brand clothing and accessories
>WE'RE OPPRESSED BY THE 1%
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>>12286981
About time someone posted proper leftist inspo
Thanks anon
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>>12288371
lmfao
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>>12285264
Commies must die
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>>12286569
/pol/ stole "redpill" and stirner>pepe
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>>12286790
if you're not an anarcho-egoist in the current year you haven't gone far enough
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>>12296465
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>>12298983
>openly admitting to having the moral reasoning of a pigeon
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>>12299048
>furthering the cause of morality over one's own cause
never gonna make it
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>>12299059
my cause is to buttfuck your corpse

dont bother trying to talk me out of it. assaulting you is just as valid as me buying you lunch.
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>>12294335
>>12296124
>still doesn't get it
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>>12296124
personal belongings, personal property are allowed under communism
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>>12288015
>Americuck education
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>>12297126
Its a copy pasta.
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>>12299069
"Whoever knows how to take, to defend, the thing, to him belongs property."

-Max Stirner
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>>12298983
>meming this hard
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>>12299624
...but anarcho-egoism's final goal is a stateless society in which everyone holds hands and sings kumbaya.

the end goals of egoism and what you just posted are pretty much identical (or at least compatible, though their way of achieving such goals may be incompatible)

i don't get how i'm meming you
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>>12285264
>commiecucks politically shilling this hard
>mfw they're still getting TRUMPED at every turn
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>>12299624
also, post-scarcity apoliticism isn't comparable to capitalism or communism, in that it isn't really an economic/societal ideology. A capitalist believes that corporations should hold the means of production, while a communist may believe the workers should hold the means of production, but "post-scarcity apoliticism" doesn't outline who holds the means of production, only that production is sci-fi levels of efficient.

Similarly, "apoliticism" doesn't entail any societal structure; comparing the belief of "oh, i don't believe in politics" to the beliefs of a capitalist, communist, socialist, etc. doesn't make sense.

this is the part when you pretend you were just meming or baiting because your post was absolute garbage
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>>12299665
haha yeah a thread on /fa/ with like 2 commieposters which is only tangentially related to american politics is totally going to cancel out the votes of 48 million Americans and remove the current President from office

Do you even read the shit you say? Are you aware of how much of a moron you are? No one was even talking about Trump, retard.

Also, I voted Trump, partly because I'm an accelerationist and partly because hillary really was an abhorrent candidate. All you /pol/ retards have this hivemind "us vs them" mindset, but i guarantee you most lefties don't vote democrat
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>>12292847
There is an entire journal dedicated to his work. You have to be into some really eclectic shit to read his books though.
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>>12296124
private property =/= personal property

Most variations of le gommunism (side note- a communist society is by definition stateless, you're referring to a "vanguard state" which aims to create a communist society in the distant future, aka socialist state) hold that the state should control the means of production (private property), but citizens may own their own personal property.

Example: The state owns the toothbrush factory, while you own your own toothbrush.

Now, there are other variations where everything is collectively owned by the state, but those are a fringe group of a fringe group of a minority group

Pic related: (most) lefties vs collectivist lefties
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>>12290840
hahahahahahaha lmao this is the most reddit shit lmao
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>>12285264
fucking commies get out of my board REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>12286569
retard vaporwave was anti capitalist you aut righters steal everything from the left.
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>>12285264
>Can someone posts fits that would fit the socialist, laborwave, communist narrative?

It's incredibly bourgie to actively dress like a poor person. I don't get why people buy factory pre-distressed clothes.

If you want to give off lefty vibes, clothes aren't gonna help you. You'll look like a faggot antifa larper. Read some theory, maybe get politically active (and like i said, no college libtard antifa shit) and people might think you're a lefty. Wearing pre-distressed trenchcoats, dollar store beret, and filthy army boots around will make you look like an autist more than anything (inb4 "but lefties are autists xdddd")
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test
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>>12292213
ХOЛOДHO on the sweaters is a reference to a film with the same title made by the same guy as makes the sweaters. Most of the people you see modelling them are just friends of his.

>>12300140
Vaporwave was hardly pro-socialist though, was it? It was about the derealization produced by consumer culture, which is something that right have also been talking about for a very long time.

>>12300426
I can't imagine a faster way to alienate the actual contemporary working class than cosplaying a middle-class NEET's idea of what a "laboror" looks like.

Anyway, I'm curious how leftists see Gosha Rubchinskiy. Any opinions?
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>>12287393
*touches shirt*
*talks about degeneracy and the modern world*
*touches shirt*
*touches shirt once again*
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>>12287393
>>12301457
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>>12301448
admittedly i dont know anything about gosha other than that my friend has a yellow gosha sweater with double cuffs and it looks kinda shitty imo (though some other people were mirin)

idk famalam tbqh
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>>12301483
I'm one of those meme trypophobics so I find the extra holes deeply disturbing.

He likes to play around with hammer and sickle badges and CCCP logo and stuff like that but I get the feeling it's purely aesthetic for him.
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>>12300426
This, seriously. Have any of these people seen how actual modern-day proles from, say, Harlan County actually dress? It's something like a UK Wildcats hat with a free t-shirt from a local Pentacostal mission day, or a sweatshirt from Poor Boy's Diesel. Being working-class isn't a fashion statement. Or if it is, it's not something you can fake. Some suburban white kid isn't gonna fool anybody. You may as well walk around wearing an ushanka and a Chinese armband like some delusional maoist.
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>laborwave
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>>12303403
>he belongs to aristocracy
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>>12287413
nice rope you have there for yourself
just use it!
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>>12299686
>it isn't really an economic/societal ideology

it deals directly with both economics and society. it may not be as detailed as capitalism or communism in that it doesn't have a logical system supporting its continuation or inception but it certainly is a distinct societal mode. you're correct in that apoliticism is not a political system and is thus a non-point in this context, but post-scarcity implies that anything is infinitely producible and thus no need for an system of governance over production exists. a replicator will replicate more replicators which will provide directly for the needs of those who have one. I can steal a replicator and now provide anything for a impoverished country, and now that anyone can do this, there's no need to monetize and directly organize a system of production. Everyone can have anything they want.
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>>12300426
>antifa larper

why would anybody ever do this?
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>>12303710
libtard college kids who hate their parents and want to feel like rebels without actually doing anything of value
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