I've come in possession of a four story building in souther

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>>1178254

Call an architect and have him do an assessment of the damage.

>>1178261
Will have someone check if the basic structure of the house is sound or if its about to fall down. Theres a crack in some of the pics which concerns me if it indicates something bad.

Here I'm mostly looking for tips on minimal effort minimal money dirty fixes to make interior livable enough to put in some cheap ikea furniture

>>1178266
I think the building style was fields tones smothered in cement/plaster. Pull away the coating, recement the stones with mortar, and re coat, then paint. Is the village historic? I know work, color schemes, etc. would need approval. So you need to ask your questions there, not here.

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>>1178275
>I think the building style was fields tones smothered in cement/plaster.
Yeah sounds plausible. I havent been at this house myself but I lived some time in western france and thats common there. This is inside a fairly big town about half an hour from the mediteranean coast i believe. Theres an airport in connection to the town.

I will give some more background to explain the situation: this house was born by my brother. He had some difficulties but had some money and I believe he bought it to fix it up and have as a source of income. Then he passed away and I inherited it.

I live on another continent and have small children. I cannot really motivate to my wife that I spend as much time there to do it myself or as much money it would take to do it right.

My dad is so depressed by my brothers passing he just wants to get rid of it like this.

I have a hard time doing that, in part because we already sold another place where my brother lived and now this is all that is left, and for the less fancy reason of not wanting to make a bad deal.

Still i realize it will be kind of a challenge to fix this up without a shitload of time and money

Congrats on buying your own personal money put. Now fuck off and get your own contractor and engineer in France as you clearly don't have a clue about the logistics involved in fixing up that shithole you bought.

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>>1178289
Ok buddy

>>1178288
>I live on another continent and have small children.
>My dad.. just wants to get rid of it like this.
Realistically, and all - that thing even has the decency to look like that which is, a time and money pit - previous anon, and your father, while harsh, are right on the money with this. You have no idea what the fuck you are doing, nor have you even time/opportunity to do that, you are doing it for all the wrong reasons (sentiment + business = not good), That thing needs stripped and kern renovated, when not demolished, there is fuck no way of pulling this off 'on the cheap'..

Its not what you want to hear, but, its what you need to hear - get rid off, ASAP, and hold your brother in memory best you can some other way - because,, that shithole will kill you as well otherwise. srsly. Even if you just put it on the market for best offer, you'll get to hear plenty of opinion about the state its in.

You will need a lot of Ikea crap to fill those holes. I would get rid of that shithole, give it for free or something.

>>1178254
>Minimal amount of time + shitloads of money
or
>Shitload amount of time + still a shitload of money
Realistically there is no other way. A lot of people think they can outsmart the laws of physics until they try.

Ok folks, thanks, appreciate it!

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>>1178254
That's one T H I C K wall.

>souther France
If it's anywhere near Marseille then just sell it.

>>1178254

let me live in this house and do it up for you. pay me uk minimum wage and i'm your guy.

obviously i'm unqualified but i'm not an idiot. will do a good job if you know what i need to do.

cheers.

>>1178495
I'll take Florida US minimum wage, which is surely much lower than his liberal wastelands minimum wage.

Also, I'm actually trained in electrical, plumbing and mechanical work.

But, I will masturbate in every room and leave the cum there.

Make your choice wisely.

>>1178499

to be fair i was planning on doing the same on the sly, so you got me

take this guy.

also funny joke about rainy facism island being a "liberal wasteland"

I'm not going to lie, I'm actually pretty jealous.

Sure, my apartment is warm, rat free, and structurally sound, but OP gets to live like a squatter 24/7

OP here. Man this board is slow, surprised this is still here. Its uncertain at this point whether heating and electricity is in order, or how much work it would be to get it in order. Knowing southern europe, living in the house would require not being afraid of freezing, pneumonia etc. Still if someone is interested in some kind of deal you can send as much info as youre comfortable with to [email protected] and I will get back.

>>1178293
Lol. He a prick but he right.

>>1178692
you a brave man, OP
>that or insane, but, whatever
setup a combination Big Brother / Hunger Games House/diy/ livestream live-in shitshow
no need to vote which candidates out, probably lose one a day to natural causes, site accidents, etc.
Winner gets a mold rash, an odd, but persistent cough and minimum wage, applicable country's wagetable t.b.c.

>>1178692
Also, try not to get eaten by roaches or stabbed by tweakers.

Or whatever the French equivalent of tweakers is.

Probably Morroccans.

>>1178266
>Will have someone check if the basic structure of the house is sound or if its about to fall down.
I really hope you didn't buy it without checking this beforehand...

>>1178773
Go back to the beginning of the thread and read it through from 1st post to your post...
You'll find that he did not purchase it...

>>1178254
>>1178692
If you allow me to live inside temporarily (~several months/summer) at no cost, I will repair it for you granted you supply the materials. I do have plenty of experience restoring old homes and buildings; my father does it for a living and this is what I did every afternoon, weekend, and summer off from school. He taught me everything he knows. I'm in university now and am looking for a little time off. Difference between me and other posters is that I'm American but have EU citizenship so I won't be an immigration or "employment" problem.

To be honest, the only reason I'm interested is because I love French and Colonial French architecture and I am interested in learning French + this would give me the opportunity to explore southern France.

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In regards to the building;
Judging by your pictures, the exterior seems to be in decent condition. A bit of plaster work is needed and the cast iron railings plus shutters need to be replaced but other than that it seems to be okay.

If you could, please take some pictures of the roof and ceilings. I need to see what kind of condition it is in to see if water damage will be an issue. I see there is already a hole in the floor of the kitchen and rotted wood so there is water damage but I would like to see the extent. I'm also seeing water damage in the bathrooms.

All of the appliances, flooring, wallpapers, etc will need to be gutted but no biggie. The doors and windows look nice, would just need to be cleaned and painted/stained.

The crack in >>1178259 concerns me. Please provide some more pictures. Is this crack and the hole in the floor the only visible damages? Do the floors shake when you walk on them? Also post pictures of the stairwell and basement.

If do have floorplans those are also appreciated. Also, what is the year of construction? That will narrow down building materials, styles, and planning.

>>1178814
Send him an email m8 you be /hisguy/

>>1178814
Do you know anything about stone buildings?

>>1178254
Why not just fill it with muslim rapefugees tenants and hope it crumbles to the fucking ground in the middle of the night? Its like you dont even love your own country. You voted macron didnt you faggot?

>>1179060
Somewhat, yes. I have plenty experience with brick, plaster, masonry stone, and the sort. I don't like to fool with foundation though. OP is also getting what he pays for. I'm by no means a professional.

There's also nothing that I can't learn

>>1178814
I will post some additional photos. If you're interested, drop me a mail at that address and lets take it from there.

French agradecería here, and Bezier is a great town OP, housing market is pretty good if you consider selling, although I understand the emotional attachment. If I were you I'd go check it out and person and see how bad it is. You could pay off the initial investment in a dozen years renting and then start bringing in real cash. You could also see local real estate companies once you're there and try to work out a deal with them, where you'd finance renovations and they care of the rest. Once again Bezier is very nice, lovely part of France, I live a couple hours away, it's one of the most catholic parts of France and honestly a lovely place to raise a family. And even if it's not your own family living there, it's possible your brother would have the rathered the property stayed with you even if it was another happy family growing there. Take care senpai <3.

>>1179168
*Frenchfag, dont know why my phone lost its shit.

>>1179170
>>1179171
>>1179172
These are what I have at the moment of the hole in the floor / water damage. I can try to arrange more, but not sure how long it will be as I'm quite far away myself and I have to ask for help.

Its unfortunate that the one showing the damage best is 640x480.

>>1179168
>>1179169
Thanks, I really hope he might have. The last few years he wasnt quite himself. We used to be very close once. One of the last things we did while he was still himself was driving from the Toulouse area where I was staying at the time to Sarlat. I'm really happy to hear he spent a lot of his last year in a nice place. If I could pick and chose any country without any concern of job and family matters, France would definitely be one of my first picks.

Im hoping to be able to go down there in August, but it's a 12 hour flight and having toddlers there's still some planning to do. Thanks for the info, I will keep it in mind! I would absolutely like to keep it if possible. Even though I realize it might turn out it isnt feasible, I want to at least give it a try.

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>>1179173
I have quite a few pictures of floors; not so many of ceilings unfortunately

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Top floor apartment. Apparently a neighbor has started keeping his cat in there as the door is broken.

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This I believe is commercial space on ground floor

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>>1178814
>The crack in >>1178259 (You) concerns me. Please provide some more pictures. Is this crack and the hole in the floor the only visible damages? Do the floors shake when you walk on them? Also post pictures of the stairwell and basement.

Yeah, me too. Basically my main worry regarding the property - is the foundation fucked up or something? My dad who went there didnt seem that concerned but he's no expert. I dont have a better photo of the crack from the inside right now unfortunately, will try to arrange but will probably take some time.

I asked whether there was a crack in the facade corresponding to the one inside, but he did not think so. Nevertheless, there are some photos of cracks in the facade which might be related, might be cosmetic, couldnt tell. I will post those.

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>>1178814
Will check what there is in terms of floor plan and what other info about the house there might be.

Stair case I dont have pics, can try to arrange, might take some time. It's a shared staircase. We own three small apartments (access from staircase) and a commercial space (access from street). My understanding is that there are another inhabited apartment owned by neighbours on each floor. Whether those are structurally in the same building or not is unclear (my dad could not answer this from memory)

If you do not own the complete building, then find out who owns the "airspace".

The cracks may look worse than they actually are.
Stone buildings settle over the years. Even if its 200 years old, it will continue to do so.
The mortar, especially on limestone is prone to flaking off.
Its a different mortar than clay brick because it needs to expand with the changes of temp and humidity.
Mortar is structural, but not load bearing.

If the cracks are only in the plaster, then you are fine.

The mortar will need to be repointed though. I can guarantee most of it is fucked.

The exposed stone in the facade looks like quarried limestone plastered with cement. It's normal for this to fall off on its own after a few decades.
Some of the internal features, such as what looks like the old style kitchen. That looks like it could be Limestone also.
Because if it was field stone, there would not be plaster there.

Limestone is good news because you can fuck that ugly plaster right the fuck off and reveal the nice stone underneath. All it will need is some repointing.

The easiest way to tell for sure if the building is leaning is to take a level to exposed door frames and the large block on the top of the window opening.
There will also be cracks in these parts if the structure is damaged.
Damage usually starts at the foundation so check for cracks there.

Also, that hole in the floor is just lino. The actual floor has been removed. You can tell because there is a big empty space over the beam.
Depending on how close together the beams are, you can tell if the original floor was Limestone or wood.
If it was stone, the beams would be close.
You can also tell the construction pf the building by the stairs. If they are stone, the building is quarried blocks.

>>1180185
Also, are there any archways in the basement?

>>1179061
>Having to pay settlements afterwards
It's like you hate French anon.

>>1178254
>spend minimal amount of time and money

Good luck with that. The only thing that comes to mind is to contact a trade school nearby and let them use it as a training exercise for remodeling. You will get quite a range of skill levels and finish quality as a result.

>>1178289
Do you know how South of France works ? If OP does it right, he can make a decent amount of money

>>1181663
Nevermind, it's in Béziers, you're fucked OP

Quelque chose me dis que tu t'es bien fait beziers. Honhon.

Fix up the commercial space then sell it. Use the profits to fix up the 3 apartments

>>1178391
This. Fucking Somalians.

>>1178254
>I've come in possession of a four story building in souther France which is in quite bad shape. I'd like to fix it into something that wont fall down and where you can stay with very simple standard. Functioning shower is no must. I want to spend minimal amount of time and money. Any ideas experience of similar projects welcome.
Nice...a flophouse for ISIS one-way ticket kinda dudes? GFTOH

>>1178254
>France
>Functioning shower is no must
Sounds about right.

>>1178391
>Beziers
Hi /pol/tard. You got it wrong, once again.
Bezier's mayor is a major alt right guy, in the most disgusting retarded American way. Worse than Marine LePen.
You're supposed to like him.

>>1182888
Hon hon hon

>>1183269
We do showers more than baths. It's where the "French only bath once a month (on average)" meme comes from.

>>1179184
What the fuck in all the ways, let the damn thing loose so it can happily go suck down intestinal worm infested rodents for the next 5 years like all cats dream of. That neighbour is an ass with zero respect for animals or property rights.

>>1183345
Fuck, never noticed that was chained up till now, neighbors some piece of fucking asshole. Odd, obv. spend money on the thing, food/litter/etc but then give the poor fucker a 50cm living-radius. OP, get in there, and liberate le frog mog - ought be having a word or five with the neighbor as well, this is taking the piss, even by french standards.

I bought a house that my mom and uncle owned
It needed a lot of work.
My advice is don't cheap out and use family to renew/decorate
you'll end up with a tiled and sealed in bath that's too low for the bath side panel
gonna have to try and squeeze it in under the bath and hope nothing breaks or pull the fucking out, and retile around it
cuuuuuuuuunts
USE A FUCKING TAPE MEASURE NEXT TIME AND DOUBLE CHECK THE RESULTS

Sell it before (((The EU))) forces you to house migrants in it at an extremely low rate or for no money at all.

>Those massive fucking cracks in the walls
>Those fucking holes on two floors
>Someone smashed up that shower floor real good
>Floors and walls are all sorts of old and shitty
You can't just roll up and tart everything up because this place is janked the fuck up, get a building inspector and rid of the damn thing.

>>1178254
It came pre-furnished to be a crack house. Make it so.

Once the building is regarded as structurally safe. Doing up the insides is easy.

It isn't actually that bad from the photos. As flooring and plumbing is fairly easy. But finding the source of the leaking water is the fun part.

Sounds like a really fun problem to have. But only if you have the free time.

Realistically I can do electrical work, fire solutions, CCTV, TV and networking solutions.

Happy to do plumbing and flooring but have slightly imprecise knowledge.

Capable of general decor and maintenance.

I'll drop a message. Might come over during holidays and practice trades skills. If I've said something unorthodox it may be due to tiredness.