How would /diy/ suggest making an armored diving suit? I don't

>>1114718
no

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>>1114718

>>1114733


What about a weave of metal wire epoxied and made into plates?

Would it be able to have the same effect as chain mail without being such a bitch to manufacture?

>>1114737
If there was dont you think there already would be?

just buy sheets of chain mail and just connect it. also rember that your bcd has to be able to lift it

>>1114742

NO I DONT

Most people aren't worried about armor or underwater weaponry, they just swim!

BUT THERES SHIT IN THE OCEANS that can fucking EAT you.

So I wanna be able to handle my undersea business in armor with a damn explosive spear that can kill a white pointer if need be.

>>1114758

That's a little out of my budget but I like the way you think. Using nukes to kill normal sharks isn't necessary anyways

>>1114847

I wan thinking that but its heavy and still expensive iI tailor sheets. Also there's rust.

So I was thinking of a simple weave instead of links sandwiched between carbon fiber and epoxy.

>>1114718
just bring a bang stick you loser

>>1114850
are you even certified ? sharks are pretty rare and not that aggressive unless you start shit

>>1114867

You're saying people never get eaten or bitten by sharks unless they fuck with them? Anything can happen. Also there are some reports of damn DINOSAURS in the oceans. Legit sea monsters.

>>1114854

There was an abalone diver that got his head bitten clean off when he was hunting. Never had a chance to even see it coming. I need a little insurance like fucking ARMOR in case a damn creature gets the jump on me.

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>>1114718
Whats wrong with the regular stuff?

>>1114851
https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/stab-proof-fabric.html
here is stab proof fiber that isnt too expensive but the sharks jaw will still break bones

>>1114872

Have you seen the pricetags?!

Its expensive as fuck and will slowly dissolve in water

>>1114875
Dude youre fighting sharks, i wouldnt skimp on the money

>>1114869
where the fuck was this? you likely have never dove in your life

>>1114877
i knew a guy who used to hunt sharks with a machete. he died he was hit in the head with the boats prop due to an idiot charter

>>1114877

Money =/= quality or longevity.

There are houses sold for millions that will be condemned and rotting within our lifetime.

If I'm going to be critical about how the government spends my tax contributions then I should also be critical of my own spending and I'm trying to find ways where being frugal is actually better.

>>1114878

Dude abalone divers get eaten all the damn time and there's tons of reports of deadly unexplained sea monsters.

Point is there's WEIRD shit in the ocean that can EAT you and I do not wanna go in there without armor and a weapon.

>>1114874

Thanks. Sharks can still break bones through chain mail too, at least I'm planning a stiff and inflexible armor compared to chain

>>1114910
Being frugal is not actually better when it comes to shark armour

>>1114938

We live in an age where me make satellites from tin foil.

We've carbon fiber so thin you need an electron microscope to measure it.

So... Yea I'm pretty sure I can find something as strong as chain mail that's lighter and cheaper

>>1114952
Youre delusional

>>1114975

So is everyone else.

>>1114952
I'm not sure about the cheaper part simply because manufacturing costs need to be spread out over many units to become cheap. If you need custom work that could get expensive even if the same item could be made dirt cheap if they were being mass produced.

It sounds like wearing a thin stab-proof suit and layering stiff plates and impact-resistant padding above it would work. Fuck sharks.

>>1114993

Thanks, man.

I wanna go spearfishing before I die and I want those sharks to learn not to fuck with a hungry human.

Those bastards fuck with fishermen like they are the only ones that need to eat

>>1114952
>Yea I'm pretty sure I can find something as strong as chain mail that's lighter and cheaper
Which is why everyone uses chainmail. Because it is heavier and more expensive. Clearly the logical choice.

I would suggest layering yourself in chum. If a shark should attack, they would be attracted to the chum and not you, allowing you to get away.

t. not a shark

>>1114977
Oh look, a delusion.

>>1114910
>I'm trying to find ways where being frugal is actually better

Nah, you're just autistic and compared to the overall expense of diving a proper suit is trivial.

>>1116810

Dude I'm looking into making my own rebreather.

I am not rich.

Diving shouldn't be so cost prohibitive anyways.

>>1116861
>Diving shouldn't be so cost prohibitive anyways.

Name one reason why. It's not mandatory in life, and it's a difficult thing to do safely. It's like saying everyone should be able to climb a mountain for $19.95.

If you want to do it, good for you. But if you get turned into a shark's dinner because safety equipment is competing with your Xbox One library, oh well.

>>1116995

NOTHING IN LIFE IS MANDATORY DUDE

Haven't you read any mythology or religious scripture?! Billions of people believe in magic for a reason.

Honestly I don't know why I don't test my faith and just free dive. Guess I wanna have toys to play with that make me feel smart when I'm actually dumb as shit.

>>1116995

https://youtu.be/xVNsE405UWI

And look at this shit, you can literally make a rebreather with scrap!!!

So, yea for 19.95 you can probably make a rebreather if you've got access to some things.

i doubt the lorica segmenta style would be very beneficial. If you were to use carbon fiber i wouldnt continue without multiple plies of kevlar or similar abrasion resistant dupont fibre. youre prolly also going to want to interweave some sort of steel mat. Use a vaccuum pump. Good luck

also take into context the joule force or a shark masticating. It should prolly end up resembling a sort of cage itself

>>1116861
please don't do that. friend you'll surely die of carbon monoxide poisoning, or some catastrophic failure.

unless you have a background in rebreathers, I guess I'd just urge you to not.

>>1117022
quite so, thousands of pounds of force per square inch. he may not lose a limb or be torn asunder, but the internal damaged sustained will surely cause the rascal to bleed out and perish.

very sad.

>>1117052
+1 thanks for the intelligence. cya soon

>>1117050

So long as I put in sensors I'll be fine. Carbon monoxide poisoning literally drives you to the surface with an insatiable urge to breath fresh air.

The real dangers are oxygen toxicity from improper mix under 30 feet, running out of o2 without realizing it, running out of o2, etc.

If you don't get the right mix of air and not enough o2 a rebreather becomes like an exit bag

>>1117077
>Carbon monoxide poisoning literally drives you to the surface with an insatiable urge to breath fresh air
Oh boy. If you have this level of knowledge I recommend you NOT to try. Commercial rebreathers are already an expensive way to die. Carbon monoxide is a gas that competes very efficiently with oxygen in binding to hemoglobin. CO always win and you die of hypoxia. CO2 triggers the breathing reflex. It will make you sick, and I mean rally sick. I had some problems with my interspiro years ago when it somehow got me CO2 poisoning too often. In a mild fashion you get splitting headaches that take the rest of the day to go away, and I mean headaches that that feels like your head will explode.
A fact is that divers die because of fucking up. Not because of marine life or by using proper diving gear. Once you start to DIY you'll up the risks severely. Especially when you try to build something as complex as a rebreather. At least get some experience with one before, it's no simple machine.
I haven't been diving with a rebreather ever but I worked with one diver for years that used one and I have dismantled the machine quite some times. Even with a commercial unit there were trouble, and this was the best of the best, my colleague was very rich.
I have been working in the dive industry for over ten years, both as an instructor for recreational divers (I finance my holidays to the tropics by working there) as in the commercial field.
Diying the rebreather will be an expensive disaster but I believe my experienced opinion will not change your mind.
As for the suit, you will probably kill yourself by fucking up during an dive I stead of being eaten by some "sea monster". Fuckups kill divers, not marine life.

And please do remember buoyancy! Your drysuit/bcd need to support you even if you loose buoyancy, and there needs to be something you can ditch in the extremely rare condition of equipment failure.

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>>1117115

>co2 triggers the breathing reflex
Duh.

That's why when you hold your breath your body goes crazy. If you have a rebreather and your co2 scrubber fucks up your body will absolutely let you know it fucked up by delivering a steady onset of maddening pain. It WILL drive you to surface and breath.

>rebreathers are complex

No, not really. The sensor system is though.

>>1117077
>Carbon monoxide poisoning
>>1117117
>>co2 triggers the breathing reflex
>Duh.
CO vs CO2

>>1117117
I'm an experienced diver and I decided to build my own MCCR from scratch. Took me around two years. It is on par with the commercial units out there, and I use it around 100 hours a year.

But it sounds like you need to do a _lot_ of research before trying to build your own. If you are serious, there is a fb groud called CCR CustomBuilders with tons of info.

>>1117120

Oh... I confused co with co2.

Shouldn't the scrubber take care of them both?

>>1117211

The loop is simple enough. Getting the sensors and controls to automatically correct improper mix is harder.

Correct?

I am damn serious, too. I plan to build one.

>>1117115
what's the source of oxygen for a bc, without oxygen tanks btw?

and I dare say, if he doesn't even know basic buoyancy, jumping directly into a rebreather is sure to kill the poor lad.

>>1117338
you cant dive and you are insane. just go without a dive buddy because he doesn't need to die due to your stupidity. i have only had a few shark encounters. they are rare as fuck and he wont be diving in more than 100 feet unless he is absolutely retarded .

>>1117211
dont bother with him he is insane.

>>1117384
it goes back into the system

>>1114718

>buy a shit ton of steel cable
>build a heavy duty loom
>make steel cloth
>make steel clothing
>cover in some type of liquid rubber
>install air hose fitting to top
>install valve to release the air
>hook up to air compressor
>be safe in woven metal cocoon with unlimited air

I see nothing that could go wrong.

>>1117766

Good idea except that it needs to be solid. Epoxied with kevlar I guess.

Sharks would bite through the steel mesh no problem if only rubber/neoprene was bonding it. The fibers wouldn't be connected enough to the medium to resist the bite.

As for making a weapon to defend myself against the sharks... I was thinking an automatic underwater rifle that relies on water as a hydraulic medium to operate that way the government won't give me grief. On land it'd have to be charged after each shot so it'd be a legal single shot weapon that curiously slam fires underwater for maximum shark defense. The bullets would need to be supercavitating though

>>1114912
>and I do not wanna go in there without armor and a weapon.
Why would you want to go there at all? Fishes have sex in there.

>>1117781
>Underwater firearm
Wouldn't that be a problem with water not being compressible transmitting the pressure wave right to the eardrum?

>>1117952

Fish also fart in the ocean. Such is life.

I'm not certain about the guns mechanism, basically the reciprocating action would have to rely on the density of water to activate full auto.

I'm actually not that scared of sharks, I'm mostly scared of people with super powers fucking with me.

The bible outright says God or Elohim either caused a sea creature to swallow Jonah or they created a sea creature to do it. And yea, around here, they think its funny as hell when animals get the upper hand over humans so I wanna be prepared as fuck.

If you're an atheist you can at least agree its possible we live in a simulation and if life is a simulation it has moderators like any other game and moderators can go insane like anyone else.

If I can go in the ocean, I'm going decked the fuck out just to be safe because you're all alone out there

OP should have Wayne Lambright build him a protective undersea dome and escort him during the dive. It would solve two problems at once.

>>1117952
>Wouldn't that be a problem with water not being compressible transmitting the pressure wave right to the eardrum?

And the rest of the ocean. I would be far more concerned that neither the barrel more the action are able take the additional pressure and blow up in your hand.

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>>1114718
Bitch you wud

>>1118310

This reference is lost on me.

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>>1117338
Scrubber _only_ deals with CO2. There should not be any CO in the system, unless you filled your tanks near a running combustion engine. This will likely kill you, so don't do that...

Don't build a eCCR (electronical O2 addition via a solenoid). Build a manual CCR (mCCR). Simpler design is better (KISS principle).

Buy electronics for PPO2 monitoring, eg:
http://av-uwt.com/?lang=en
https://www.shearwater.com/

Read about this shit. This this a bit antique:
http://www.therebreathersite.nl/01_Informative/MCCR%20in%20Depth/MCCRinDepth.html

OR

http://www.kissrebreathers.com/difference.html

>>1118283
It can be done
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lG-snJZIV8

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>>1117961
Ooooookay. You are one of those people. Kind of explains why you sound so retarded.
Protip: A book written a few hundred to a few thousand years ago doesn't give reliable insights into marine biology. Just sayin'.

>>1118349

Well even atheists agree we could be living in a simulation and simulations need moderators... And sometimes they do dick things.

So, yea you SHOULD be slightly paranoid regardless of what you believe

>>1118356
>even atheists agree we could be living in a simulation
Not really, no. The Matrix trilogy isn't seen as a religious textbook by many.
>>1118356
>simulations need moderators
No they don't. Or, in other words, there hasn't been any moderation since Noah, the mods are asleep or gave up long ago.
>>>https://www.reddit.com/r/outside/ can confirm sharks are not moderation.

>>1118356
>atheists agree we could
Occam's razor say we probably don't though. Again of you _believe_ you do then aren't an atheist but a theist.
Sure it's possible everything is a simulation but I'd say you would need even some remote proof to convince me. It's just old school silly religion in a fancy technological wrapper claiming "world is simulation and God is moderator".

>>1118366

Depends. If you're religious enough you can see religion in everything. Some call it religiosity, conformation bias, etc.

And even after Noah god walked around doing business.

>>1118451

Murphys law wants a word with you

>>1114718
Wire a bunch of aluminium cans together and hope for the best.

>>1118492
>Murphys law wants a word with you
Just shut the fuck up you fucking idiot. Murphys law says "anything that could go wrong will go wrong". That has nothing to do with religion or simulations. I understand what you're trying to say and you're wrong. Murphys law doesn't mean "everything exists that people imagine". That's a completely different thing. It's stupid as well as arrogant, as humans, to assume the rest or reality and non-reality would reflect our own thoughts. What is, is, human imagination has no say in this but how to use that which is. Just because people feel something is right, or wrong, if it doesn't happen or it does happen, that's how it is. It is simple human arrogance that has people thinking that we are special, and we create gods in our own image so that we may believe the entire universe reflects us. Some people even call life a "miracle" as a way of attempting to appeal to atheists emotional side. But the truth is, in a universe this big, with as many galaxies and planets that there are, that a single planet might form in a place where it was possible for a complex system to develop is not unlikely. When you realize just how many stars in each galaxy exist, and hust how many galaxies exist, you realize that a complex system was very likely to come about. Most people look at earth, and life, backwards. They say that's it's amazing that earth was "designed to suit us". But that's foolish, earth was not designed to support life, life formed to follow the environment in which it formed. Earth was not made for us, we developed in accordance to earth. Had the complex system ended up forming on a totally different environment, it would reflect that. People like to believe that something bigger than us exists, or that we were planned. We weren't, it is possible though probability wise somewhat improbable that we are the most complex system to ever exist. The universe was not made specially for us, we are simply a byproduct of the universe.

>>1115051
You can probably RENT the fucking suit, but you are clearly too autistic to have researched that by contacting dive outfits directly.

>>1116861
>Diving shouldn't be so cost prohibitive anyways.

It isn't if you aren't a loser, and you can rent all the fucking equipment. If you made the effort to make money instead of autismally focusing on doing shit the hard way you'd have a comfier life.

>>1118534

Living by an ocean you're always in and renting a shark suit is like living in the Arctic and renting a space heater.

Its fucking stupid, buy or make one.

And shark suits are way too pricy for me.

I'm poor as fuck and virtually unemployable so if I'm going to fantisize about the life I want I'm going to make it realistic as I can financially

>>1118283
>And the rest of the ocean. I would be far more concerned that neither the barrel more the action are able take the additional pressure and blow up in your hand.

The additional pressure is also applied to the outside of the barrel and action. Equilibrium FTW.

>>1114872
Humbolt Squid will surround you, not give a fugde and snip off your limbs piece by piece anyway.

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>>1114869
>Also there are some reports of damn DINOSAURS in the oceans. Legit sea monsters.