So why hasn't anyone started building a flying saucer yet?

>>1114392

Because it's a horribly energy inefficient way to fly.

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>>1114392
>So why hasn't anyone started building a flying saucer yet?
The fuck you say?

>>1114408

.... Technically yea you are correct but dude....

How come nobody is using any of the old declassified aerospace research to build a legit "UFO" level flying saucer?

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>>1114410
Because if someone built it then they'd know what it was and it would be an identified flying object...

Cool technology bro

>>1114417

If the conspiracies are true we've had great technological breakthroughs bought and destroyed by big oil.

What if we literally had the technology to fly across the world for nearly nothing, go to Mars and back, and begin Terra forming?

Really makes you think

>>1114410
>How come nobody is using any of the old declassified aerospace research to build a legit "UFO" level flying saucer?
Because they have no practical advantages over conventional aircraft.

>>1114392
What is the AVRO Canada "Avrocar", Alex.

It'd be much more efficient if civilian grade minituarized nuclear fusion engines are available.

>>1114461
>If the conspiracies are true we've had great technological breakthroughs bought and destroyed by big oil.

Breakthroughs cannot be smothered if the data is released in the first place. People crave conspiracies as they crave religion because they crave "special insight" to exalt them. Very spergy.

If someone buys a patent, that patent exists in a patent motherfucking office for anyone else to study. Conspiratards think ideas just vanish or something.

>>1114467
>What is the AVRO Canada "Avrocar"

An interesting tech demo and a bad idea which is why it went nowhere, but research is good because learning what sucks is as valuable as learning what works.

how would you actually launch that thing into space?

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>>1114392
They did even in 60s or 80s, but it isn't safe way to travel, yet it bugging me why they use helicopters then...

>>1114593

Actually the size of my nations R&D budget is so huge conspiracies are an easier pill for me to swallow than my country dumping a hundred million into technology and no noticeable effect occurs

>>1114638
itd be neat if the entire top was semiflexible solar and the seat/cab was the batteries/controller

>>1114392
All the brilliant inventors are trying to solve the buried shipping container problem or how to let a lobster survive on land.

>>1114656
>batteries
never for flying if you ask me.

>>1114659
capasitors then

>>1114392
why? its retarded, expensive and unpractical. Planes are chaeper, drones a re cheaper helis are chaeper etc.
if you want it, you can build what ever you want if have the cash.

>>1114658

Or they are building batman gear.

One anon said this month we've had a thread about how to make grappling hooks, batman gauntlets, and smoke bombs.. He said he's watching the news with popcorn close by.

We need a /diy/ comic about a guy that builds all this stuff and has adventures

>>1114467
People can't handle control over a land based vehicle now you want to let them crash into each other, just above our home So? Yeah, nahhhhhh.

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>>1114672
>capasitors

>>1114392
Reminds me when I was a little kid, I wanted to build an airplane, made of wood. I was totally convinced I'd be flying around the neighborhood blowing people's minds with my airplane. My parents told me to go for it.

Then I went to build it I basically just nailed some boards and a sheet of plywood to my dad's sawhorses and only then did I realize I had no fucking idea how to build an airplane or how they even worked.

>>1114638
Because the mechanics are more reliable, and when power fails, the rotors do something called auto-rotation, which allows them to still provide some lift even when not under power, slowing descent and allowing safer crash landing. This is the same reason why ducted fan helicopters aren't really a thing, because they don't provide auto-rotation, and thus aren't as safe when mechanical failure happens.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autorotation

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Probably the most practice use I've seen for a discount shaped aircraft.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LfpTDOAfj7Y

>>1116067
Disk shaped...

>>1116068

"Discount shaped" wasn't entirely inaccurate.

>>1116014
high voltage capacitors

>>1114392
>spaceship
how are you going to get that thing into space?

>>1116135
have a lower energy density than batteries

>>1116141
buh muh capacitors
wuh buh muh induccors
wuh buh muh awp amp
wuh buh muh rresisors

>>1116138

No idea but dammit there has to be a better way than rockets.

>>1116292
Space elevator, but good luck building one yourself

>>1116292
>>1116440
spaceplane, for smaller payloads
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skylon_(spacecraft)

>>1114595
inb4 giant robot hand to throw it like frisbee

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>>1114392
There are diy projects for building saucers on going but I haven't seen much of updates on them. There was this one guy who was building this thing in pic related but I lost the link to it.

>>1116566

HOLY SHIT THATS AN AMAZING IDEA

No joke that's cool AF

Like the Alien Reproduction Vehicle?

>>1114392
there are patents on ufo technology, i am not at my computer so i cannot link some that i found. i suggest you look through archive sites, instead of patent companies. suppression is real, think of the implications of free energy alone. We would be completely self reliant. Think about what this means for the government. Electrogravitics is a good term to use while searching for UFOs. Just remember that there is a lot of misinformation to stigmatize the truth. Also, be careful for honeypots, if it seems too good to be true, it is.

>>1118175

>what this means for government

Uhhh haven't you watched Star Trek?

Just because people would be energy independent doesn't mean we won't need a government.

Its like saying "oh, everyone can use cheat codes on this game server... Mods aren't necessary" and then the server becomes a troll ridden shitfest that nobody likes.

>honeypots

Yea its kinda fucked up that people will give you terabytes of child porn just to arrest you.

Like it matters anyways, everything is illegal and if they don't get you for one thing they'll get you for another.

We even have fucking THOUGHT POLICE.

Its fucked up.

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>>1117969
Of course if you do that, you'd have to find a way to prevent it from burning up in the atmosphere. in order to get anywhere near orbit, it would need to be going hypersonic.

Not to mention that it would need to be thousands of kilometers long so that the G-forces don't turn people into pulp

A verne gun would work better.

Problem 1 is solved by making the projectile an aerodynamic cone shape that ablates as it goes through the atmosphere, problem 2 is solved by not launching people

>>1118209

>2017
>not firing people into space with a giant cannon

Plebest of the plebs.

>>1118211
Well they won't be people by the time they leave the barrel

>>1118217

Suspend them in fluid. Cryogenically freeze them and unthaw them after the space station catches them. Put them in a suit that squeezes the shit out of their body to prevent blood and fluid travelling to the feet.

Etc etc

>>1118221
>>fluid
The g-forces are too much for even that to work.
>>cryogenically freeze them
Great now we just need a way to revive them!

>>1118201
i am solely talking about the power of the government. i am not saying that going without the government would be a good thing. I am saying that the government wont be able to cut resources off when you decide to revolt, making them wayyyy less powerful.

>>1118209
Look into zero point energy. Steven greer (sp?) had a congressional meeting that presented some interesting theories behind gravity. Basically stated that some commonly held theories are incorrect about physics, allowing there to be a separation of mass and inertia.

>>1118253
That's a load of bullshit

>>1118262

It's not if our understanding of science is flawed.

>>1118266
that's a load of bullshit

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>>1118270
that is a very arrogant thing to say. Our perception of science is fluid and has changed throughout history. Magic is indistinguishable from advanced technology.

>>1114392
>So why hasn't anyone started building a flying saucer yet?
Because they serve practical purpose?

>So why hasn't anyone started building a flying saucer yet?

Because the shape offers no functional advantage, which you'd know if you bothered to use a search engine. /diy/ isn't /spoonfeed/.

>>1118444

>not flying to work in a UFO

Pleb.

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>>1114392
I am.

>>1118175
how do I get free energy

>>1119470
I got a lot of ufo and free energy PDF from TOR's library.

>>1114414
>dat feel when still waiting for moller's m400 skycar
>dat feel when miniaturized turbines and brushless motors made the concept obsolete even before he made a fully functioning prototype

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>>1116292
DIY lifter ; http://jnaudin.free.fr/lifters/howto.htm

>>1114392
That drawing is not "flying saucer technology" its just a fucking jet turbine mounted vertically in a saucer shaped craft. Thats not going to get you past the edge of the atmosphere. Thats probably your answer OP, most/all of the flying saucer tech thats been released is weapons grade bolognium.

>>1119706

>getting to space with an ion engine

>>1114392
>So why hasn't anyone started building a flying saucer yet?

That tech is not real

>There appears to be tons of declassified info on flying saucer technology.

It's all the ravings of lunatics and meth addicts

>>1114647
>no noticeable effect occurs
Just because you're too dumb to notice, doesn't mean it doesn't occur.

>>1116030
This. Just make a gyrocopter

>>1114392
>declassified info on flying saucer technology.
>>1119731
>most/all of the flying saucer tech thats been released
What universe do you guys live in where any "flying saucer tech" has been "released"?

>>1118201
>Yea its kinda fucked up that people will give you terabytes of child porn just to arrest you.
If someone gave you a bridge would you jump off of it?

>>1114392
Because element 115 in stable form is hard to come by

>>1114677
I wish this was me, but im poor, and don't know enough. i'll be robin though lmk /diy/

>>1114593
three letter agencies have a lot of power, do you think that there are patents (open to the public) for our most current defense systems, the black project ones. Almost anything can be done in the name of national security. just because you drank the governments koolaid doesnt make someone retarded for having a different opinion. If you think that there has never been any form of suppression of information, then i feel sad for your ignorant ass. Look at history, book burning was a serious problem and is still happening today in rare cases. Not to mention, every government system is made by individuals, individuals can be bought.

>>1121721
completely different situation. even if you dont use the material, it is still being downloaded to your HDD. You dont need to use it to get in trouble.

>>1114586
why is nobody else saying THIS
that and a thermally non conductive yet extremely rigid frame alloy, cause you know, nu-nu fuel is heavy, and so is its working fluid.

>>1114672
no. ill take a charged low temperature superconductor loop

>>1114684
>>same licensing procedure as a general aviation pilot. pls correct me

>>1116030
thank you friendo

>>1118175
theres no free energy, only low-loss conversion or retention. and when a guy spins a glorified top for hours on end to an amused crowd, it never loaded.

>>1118494
are you trying to derail? he means that as an alternative to space or aero designs we currently use, what we know about "ufo" tech (which is chock full of disinformation etc), nobody has produced a commercially viable disc shaped object for liftin-off-the-ground wot

>>1120052
yeah, you only need to have a first stage in the shape of a dome, paper thin, and the size of half the planet! /s

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>>1114677
>grappling hooks, batman gauntlets, and smoke bombs

Anon you just brought back a flood of memories.

There's a book about somewhere that I found long ago (in an old torrent of DIY stuff back around 2008) that presents itself as a book explaining cool stage/street magician's tricks involving pyrotechnics and mechanisms, but then as you read through it the author points out more and more batman-y things, mentions offhandly that some things "don't have a real practical use in a magician's show" and then it turns into explaining thermite and how to efficiently coup-de-grace someone when in handcuffs.

I looked up the author a couple years later when I remembered about it and had long deleted it, and it turned out he also wrote books on bombs.

Scary shit yo.

>>1122470
again.

Basically my intent in mentioning it was: be careful about what books you look into around esoteric stuff. There's a lot of nutty things out there that may sit on the shelves (or in torrents) next to useful material .

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>1122440
> nobody has produced a commercially viable disc shaped object for liftin-off-the-ground

>>1114461
>If the conspiracies are true we've had great technological breakthroughs bought and destroyed by big oil.

Because no one can ever publish under Creative Commons and GPL and no one can ever rediscover useful tech despite billions of people not beholden at fucking all to Big Oil.

Go learn science. You'll have more intelligent dreams. Conspiraplebs should build the shit they say they dream about, but of course scamming and fantasy is more fun than being a serious person. Scientific literacy is a terrible burden. Follow your dreams!

OPs post is asking for /spoonfeeding/ so go spoon some shit down yer throat for being too lazy to Google.

/diy/ means dimotherfuckingy, not hurfdurf me too lazy to study on my own.

>>1114647
Can you swallow the idea that most low-hanging fruit has been picked by the hundreds of millions of previously existing minds? Do you study the history of technology? What DO you study?

Assumption is the mother of all fuckups.
Lazy thinking is the father of all fuckups.

>>1114677
>We need a /diy/ comic about a guy that builds all this stuff and has adventures

That would be great! It could consolidate all stoopid memes people only take seriously because they are lazy into an epic bread.

>>1122440
>nobody has produced a commercially viable disc shaped object for liftin-off-the-ground wot

Serious people use goals to choose tech, and a saucer is a terrible idea for transport because shape even if it flew.

Want useful ideas? Try wing-in-ground effect aircraft. A serious builder could produce one of those as they would any homebuilt.

A flying saucer's shape does make some aerodynamic sense but only for a craft that literally has no "forwards." The advantage is the lack of need to turn to change direction since it's radially symmetrical. I'm sure with some sort of gyroscopically-balanced setup you could have the controls and pilot move around with the direction of travel as well.

The issue this runs into is the method of propulsion. We don't have a way to actually cause the sudden changes that the flying saucer would be ideal for, even in land or sea travel. Everything we can use required turning, so having a shape that is specifically designed to not need to turn is just a waste when you can simply focus on shapes that turn better.

>>1114595
Magnets

>>1118209
Implying it would be traditionally "launched" and not "UFO" style just fly up with no dmg or force upon the creatures inside.

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>>1118253
>zero point energy
mfw

>>1123292
When people say shit like zero point energy, is it just a word for magic like orgone, or do they mean virtual particle pairs, quantum foam and the possible false vacuum?

Do people really hope to draw energy out of the vacuum, hoping it's a false vacuum? Do they really want to destroy the universe the first time they test that shit?

>>1123299
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Arthur C Clarke

Human arrogance has always amused me. People actually believe that we will not advance further in science, that everything is set in stone. This is wrong.

Perspective is a wonderful things. something that this board needs a little more of. Instead of staying in your safe boxes, think outside of them. You might change the world.

>>1114396
This.
/thread

>>1123775
>Human arrogance has always amused me.
Have a look on your own post then.

>>1123775
>People are confident that tech won't go far
>I'm confident that tech will go far
>They're arrogant.
>(I'm not)

>>1125564
Fucking sick burn great execution 9/10
>>1125630
Good use of sarcasm, could be snappier 7.5/10

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>>1114647
>>1122385
The allegation was that "big oil" (that is, the major private sector suppliers of petroleum) was buying and destroying technological breakthroughs. That is, they bought the rights to existing promising patents and then did nothing with them. In such a case, the patents are still public, and everyone gets a shot at it when the patents expire. Or alternately, that they bought trade secrets from some other company and then did nothing with it, in which case nothing prevents others from making and exploiting the same discovery. Keep in mind that this entire notion rests on the idea that oil companies aren't profit-seeking enough to take advantage of profitable new technology, particularly technology that would put their competitors out of business and themselves as a monopoly supplier of world-changing tech.

>>1118266
Well, good thing you can demonstrate some flaws, then, right? Because while General Relativity is flawed, and Newtonian Dynamics is flawed, they're not equally flawed, and only one has flaws that are actually detectible with modern equipment.

>>1123775
Modern technology exceeds in many respects the powers attributed to ancient gods, but carrying that into the future runs into problems. Modern science knows much more about the world than ancient people, including such things as what zero point energy is and why it's not usable for much. The laws of physics presumably allow much more than modern technology, to the point that Clarkian futures are conceptually just fine. but there's nothing to indicate that (say) conservation laws can be violated. In fact, since conservation laws derive from certain symmetries of the universe, modern science can identify which ways the universe would have to be different in order to permit violations of conservation laws. Hint: our universe doesn't look like that.