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I have relatively no experience in construction. At what point

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I have relatively no experience in construction.
At what point would pic related be obtainable (750sqf) thru acquired skills

Do I need a degree...where do I start?! what sort of price range runs in 700 square feet structure?

-have the land
-have some funds
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Monitoring this. I was going to make a similar thread. Same situation.
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>>1103603
Yeah.. looking to build one room +loft but since i was born in 1993 am completely useless outside breaking down boxes at NAPA
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>>1103601
All you need to do is watch YouTube videos on basic framing techniques. That's nothing more than a glorified shed. You can research literally every step in building a home on YouTube.
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16X24 Shop, w full loft

day 1 dig some footings in solid rocks. If you're a flatlander, this part is easier because you'll just hve dirt.
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day 2 ++

Forming footings.
I chose to do a stemwall type foundating as opposed to a flat slab. This makes forming more complicated but it gets your overall ceiling height higher, and gets decay prone wood products further away from mositure.
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day +++ (I worked on this over the last 2 years mostly on weekends)
slab poured

(Mono lithic for strength (footings and slab all one piece) Tons of rebar, footings are 28" deep from top of form, full rebar matt, 2 bars top an bottom with ties 16" on center (total overkill, but I am an architect/const manager so materials cheep cheep cheep or free)
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first floor walls
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Floor joists, again, total overkill (TJI 350's on 16" centers, ran out of TJ's and put 3 4x12's to make a wide bay for stairs) All the 4X12's and 1/2" CDX was salvaged off a remodel job. Interesting to note: the 4X12's came out of a 30 year old building and the trees those were cut from had to be over 100 years old (old growth Doug Fir) Even though they are bone dry, they are noticably denser heavier and way stronger that fresh lumber.
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>>1103601

I gradually taught myself to do most of what's necessary for that. None of it was hard, but if you're starting from square one, you'll have a number of things to learn. But you certainly don't need a degree or any formal class.

Foundations can be simple but they are some physical labor. I'd be tempted to hire that out just out of laziness.

Framing carpentry is pretty straightforward. Taunton Press has a number of useful books.

Roofing is dead simple particularly if you don't have any weird valley joins. Don't desrign a house with weird layout (gable roof is simple and easy). Minimize things that project through the roof (chimneys etc.)

Sheathing the exterior walls, insulating, and drywall for the interior, is pretty simple as well. Hardest part is getting a nice smooth finish at the drywall joins.

Stairs can be mathematically challenging but there are a lot of web sites to help calculate the stair layout.

I have done enough plumbing and electric to do all that part too, but in most jurisdictions you'll need to hire a pro to either (a) finish the job or (b) at least confirm that you did it right.

Anyway, if you keep everything as simple as possible and always aim for easy-to-build, you'll be able to do a lot of these things with just a little brains, a little more muscle, and research.
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>>1103601
You insulated the slab right? Something I wish the people that built my place did.
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https://youtu.be/ajb9FMzmamw
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>>1103601

HALF-TOPIC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hGR8kOPT7U
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>>1103645
is that your truck?
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>>1103601
>>1103603


literally anyone can do residential construction. take a look at pic related. these SEA huts are built by low ranking teenage enlisted kids who have an average asvab score of 45. in like 3 days. if you really want some practice, get some scrap 2x4's and frame up an 8x8 wall section. this guy has some pretty good videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2KfsJoZCnM
you know what the difference between this hut and OPs pic is? not much. mostly nicer looking materials and more labor on finish work. but they are both stick framed, piered foundation houses.

as far as cost, i can tell you just the shell (meaning floor, exterior walls, and roof) will run you about 7k$ in materials if you have access to a builder supply store. i don't know what it would cost to do it via home depot, and i don't want to. this doesn't include electrical, drywall, insulation, plumbing, etc.

a shitload of your cost is in the finishes and those little upgrades you fit in will nickel and dime you to death.

i've done a full material estimate on a finished 16x32 cabin, and with well, septic, and power drop you can build it yourself for ~22k$.

mind you this is with getting fixtures/cabinets/trim items off craigslist (still better quality than what you get in a manufactured home).
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>>1103601
It probably seems like an intimidating project but this is totally doable if you commit to it. You will learn as you go. Measure twice cut once. Don't half-ass things or you'll regret it later. Don't put your fingers anywhere you wouldn't put your cock.

There are lots of standard, official guidelines for everything from roofing to pouring foundations. Follow them and they're basically a guide that tells you how to do it well. Plus you won't get shut down for building a terrible structure. Lots of good books have this info. Buy them. Go for the ones with good diagrams.

Design is the hardest part for a first-timer. You don't want to suddenly realize that your framing hangs off the foundation because your napkin drawing sucked and you forgot to account for the width of your lumber. Use a good set of existing plans or get consulting help from a small-time architect. You can also use Sketchup to lay out the framing (and everything else if you want) in detail.

Consider spending a few months working with Habitat for Humanity, a similar organization, or a shitty part-time job with a contractor. Help them, but be clear about your goals and insist on actually building/learning and not just moving paint cans around. The experience and connections will be a big help. Hell, you might even find a pro who will help you out in return for beer.

Other option is to buy a trashed cabin and fix it up, at least you'll have a template to work on while you develop skills.
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>>1103601
People been building houses since houses were invented Get to work.
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>>1104635
Different anon here. Your suggestion for Habitat for Humanity was a spot on suggestion. I just signed up and I wanted to thank you for that.

That or give you something to smile about I suppose.
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>>1104620
This

For god sakes OP, don't buy your main materials from home depot as they will rape you in price.
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>>1103601
Looks like the good old cuckshed

Should be fairly easy op maybe you can ask chad for help too i doubt he will be any use except for heavy duty tho you gotta figure out the plumbing and electricity on your own or get a new bull
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if you own the land and it has trees..use the trees?

I'd honestly just spend some time looking into simple carpentry..like any subject..drop yourself into it and absorb it like a sponge.

Read, watch, read, watch..
Check out little houses, cabinporn.com is good to get an idea

videos such as this -
https://youtu.be/RV7pmE4MC-I

i cant offer much in terms of actual information but yeah...
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>>1103601
Hey, OP. Seems like a lot of decent advice here in your thread.

I did a full remodel of our attic a few years back. We have a 1.5 story bungalow style home built in 1929. I had pretty much no carpentry experience when I started and it turned out great. Sheet rock sucks ballsack to work with (my least favorite part of the whole thing) and painting is a bit tedious, but the carpentry aspect of building is actually pretty cathartic.

This spring, my wife and I are going to sell our city home and buy 20+ acres in the north woods of Wisconsin. I've been researching a bit to determine our best option(s) for living space and basically came to the conclusion that stick framing (or possibly SIPs) is just the most logical way to do it.

Having a full foundation would be great, but I'll probably just do a pier style foundation. The frost line is 48" so a full foundation would be a real bitch to dig out, form up and pour. Attaching beams to the piers is something I've never done, but I'm sure I'll figure it out before the time arrives. Beyond that, framing the floor plate and walls is pretty simple. Likely to go with trusses for the roof entirely for convenience.

Cost is going to be pretty high I'm guessing. >>1104620 seems to have a good ballpark for the shell. We're going with a metal roof, which is more costly but won't need replacement for a few decades.

If I can figure out how to do this, then I'm pretty sure anyone can. Good luck with your build!
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>>1106814
dig out the foundation. don't put a shit house on 20 acres. i would not hesitate to do the whole thing in solid masonry.
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>>1106824
I'm lacking in experience. What's wrong with pier style foundations?
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>>1106852
nothing if its some innawoods cabin you use 2 months out of the year. if its going to be your motherfucking HOUSE that you reside 24/7, do it right. especially if you think its going to be the house you might retire in.
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>>1103855
Looks like pic in OP is built on piers.
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>>1106824
>>1106858

So, a house built on piers is a "shit house"? Also, "motherfucking HOUSE" that you live in isn't "right" if it's built on piers? You seem kind of angry. Could you clarify? Did someone hurt you in a house built on this foundation style?

Can anyone else weigh in on full foundations versus pier and beam foundations?
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>>1107048

Eurofags who think because they have no woodlands left and wood is therefore prohibitively expensive everything needs to be made out of brick
vs. god tier ameriburgers with cheap plentiful glorious wood master race
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>>1107049
You literally just said nothing.
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Keep everything plumb, level, and square and you'll be alright most times. A big difference between a professional carpenter and a DIY-er is normally just knowing how much your margin of error is during the building process and the most efficient ways to order and use material.

Design your place around the materials that are available to you. Dont make your exterior framed walls some dipshit dimension like 19'-2" X 31'- 7". Plan around using as much of full sized lumber and sheet goods as you can, multiples of 8' is an easy way to get rough sizes and save material.

Nothing is random when you're doing carpentry. Need blocking in a wall for partitions, plumbing, drywall backing, fireblocking? Put it on some kind of layout and make it all look the same. Nailing on base trim or casing? Start a nail pattern and keep to it on every piece of trim you install.
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>>1103606
>since i was born

you mean since you neglected to educate yourself
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