I want to make a device which allows lobsters and other oceanic

>>1086559

but... why? i do not want crustacean overlords.

>>1086559
Neat idea. As far as I know, as long as you supply fresh (Salt) water to the gills they should live, ignoring possible complications from the rest of their body being out of the water.

As a kid, I used to catch baby crabs about the size of a silver dollar and keep them alive in glasses of salt water.

>>1086601
Two words: house lobster

>>1086559
>do they also excrete non-gaseous waste through their gills

I'd assume they exhale CO2 which can cause CO2 poisoning if not scrubbed. That's what a SCUBA Rebreather is there for.

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>>1086559
They have gills at the base of their legs

>>1086609
Surely, the aeration will remove the CO2 as readily as it adds oxygen. I'm more concerned with waste that isn't gaseous.

>>1086630
That's a shame, I was hoping for a collar/Abe Sapien type device. Engineering it to not interfere with their legs will be a much bigger challenge.

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>>1086636
>wants to engineer reverse scuba land suit for crustaceans
>doesn't know basic crustacean biology

Typical of DIY for aure.

>>1086650
Okay, Mr Bigshot, you get working on your lobster amphibication equipment and I'll work on mine and we'll see who has lobsters chirping merrily as they skitter 'round our respective homes first.

>>1086675
Autism is real

>>1086559
Simple. Get a large hamster ball, fill the holes, add water and lobster, profit.

>>1086683
This seems to be the right answer. Use silicon to seal the holes and post a picture.

>>1086636
>Surely, the aeration will remove the CO2 as readily as it adds oxygen.
It shouldn't be a problem at all, the capacitance coefficient of water for CO2 is much higher than it is for air.

I'm pretty sure there is nothing going on with gills other than gas exchange (O2 and CO2).

lobsters die quickly in room temperature water that is otherwise perfect.

>>1086559
what the fuck is wrong with you? why would you even ask this?

> make a reverse scuba suit for lobsters

you do realize you need a team of engineers and biologists and a shitload of money? did you really think a bunch of retards on a Chinese cartoon board would meet this criteria?

Test this with crawdads. You can buy a shit ton and they are easier to keep. Lobsters need saltwater and to be pretty cold. Make a custom tailered suit from clear trashbags and fill it with some water. Put little leg sleeves and maybe come cute puctures on it.

If their gills are at their tiny feet, make tiny shoes.

>>1086722
I would have gone for one of those rolling treadmill type things, but shoes/shinguards sound good too.
Godspeed OP

>>1086559

You mean, like, an aquarium?

>>1086717
>implying engineers and biologists don't like Chinese cartoons and don't frequent this board

THIS MAN HAS A DREAM GODDAMN IT

>>1086680
Yeah, but this one is pretty cool even if it is a little autismic.

>>1086728
Just buy a Scorpion. It's a lobster that lives o. Land and stop this retardation.

>>1086559
NOBODY WANTS TO FUCKING ENABLE YOUR HOUSE LOBSTER HABIT ANON

FUCK

>>1086559
Why not just fill a hamster ball with salt water? That way the lobster can be comfy and still get around the house.

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>>1086559

>>1086559
an battery powered air pump attached to a ball filled with water seems to be the best bet

>>1086997
>the ball is going to run out of oxygen

Put holes in it? Nope run out of water then.

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>>1086559

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>>1087023
something like this

>>1087040
an air pump is necessary as without fresh air dissolving in the water the lobster will suffocate. temperature can just be controlled by keeping your house cold or adding the occasional bit of ice to the water

>>1086606
Why would you want a house lobster?

>>1087044
why wouldnt you?

>>1087025
Maybe a part of it should be semi-permeable, then there would be exchange of gasses but water couldn't get out.

>>1087040
>>1087042
I wonder if a crab would work better. They need less oxygen than lobsters.

>>1087049
You let me know when you find a material that can do that while remaining rigid and viable for a crustacean to roll around in like it is a fucking guinea pig out for a stroll.

>>1087021
All I could think of

>>1087025
just add an airpump, im sure some /diy/nosaur knows how to fix one to a rechargeable battery for however many hours needed. op doesnt really say how long he wants mr pinchy to roll around the house

>>1087040
only problem would be water returning out the air pump, but im sure with a good seal and a one way valve it would be possible

>>1087059
really just anything smaller would be better as it uses less oxygen but a lobster should be fine if the water gets oxygenated and changed often. lobsters would be fine as long as their gills are kept wet and there is a gas exchange with the air. if the lobster kept moving the break in the surface tension of the water would be enough to facilitate this change. how important is it that the lobster has control over his location. would a tank with wheels suffice or must it have autonomous control??

>>1087152
>this thread
chuckled
>Mr. Pinchy
no more sides

>>1087026
since coconut crabs can breath air out of water it would be an ideal compromise for a lobster, if you want a crustacean pet

>>1086559
another possibility would be to attach a cart like tank to the lobster with a large supply of aerated salt water that it can drag along with it, like a little sea pionier.

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>>1087161
adding plants to the tank would also defuse the C02 buildup and you could have yourself a self sustaining eco system

>>1087166
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>>1086636
>>1087173
creating a watertight seal from the lobster life preserver (LLP) depends on if you want it to be removable or not. i would say just attach it to the shell and build a new one when the lobster malts.
instead of a sealed hole you could just make little water tight lobster leggings for it to wear with the LLP, like a reverse Glove Box Isolator. anyway hope this helps

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>>1087179
or you could make it like an space suit rather than a wetsuit. following the principle of Glove Boxes even further to make it, the lobster would be able to walk around in its reverse scuba suit and cart. dont forget to make it as light as possible to prevent strain on the lobster

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>>1087194
maybe start with a small lobster and train it up to handle the load

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>>1086559
Are you the same guy who built an underwater hamster colony by any chance?

>>1087201
Oh man, please tell me it's true. I've been following his blog like a hawk

>>1087223
awh man thats disappointing, i thought whoever that guy was, was just some eccentric

>>1087239
eccentric about raping children

>>1087223
Proof?

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do this, but opposite

>>1087137
multiple materials in combination, a frame made of a rigid plastic with the semi-permeable material webbing between making a ball?

>Be oregonian
>Buddies and I go crawfishing because why not
>Build cage to catch them in
>Catch a bunch
>At campsite adding them into the pot
>Last one has this massive tumor growth on it
>intothebushesyougo.jpeg
>hour later this crawdad walks out of the forest and makes a bline for the fire.
>drag it out and throw it in a bucket
>all night clacking
>next day throw it in the lake

Or, from his perspective

>Aliens come and drag us away from home and family
>watch as they cook my brothers
>for some reason thrown a far distance instead of going into the pot
>seek vengance for my comrads
>crawl back to fire but captured again
>thrown back in lake
>"this is how it all went down doc, is there anything wrong with me?"
>"I am sorry but you have terminal cancer, you have a week to live"
>"WHY WAS I LEFT ALIVE"

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>>1086994
speak for yourself, mate. this sounds fuckin hilarious.

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>>1087152
>>1087137
>>1087166
>>1087173
>>1087179

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>>1086559
>>1086601
>>1086606
two words:
allready done.

>>1086606

You may be thinking about this all wrong.

Why not make a scuba suit and turn your house into an aquarium.

Why not a hampsterball that is cut open on top attached to a gyroscope to prevent it from tipping over? Just get a house with out stairs.

Also if you have the money, place an unalted hampsterball in a salt water aquarium and attach it to some type of device similar to an old mouse here the direction the ball is rolling will determine which way the tracks move. Oh yeah you need some type of tracks like a tank or use the gyroscope from the previous idea and use a unicycle.

As far as keeping the tank cool, having the aquarium allows you to hook up an ice machine that you can use for drinks or let it dispense into your lobster tank to give it that "at home" feel.

>>1086774
Lol!!! Well. It is 4chan so rude shit asside i say live your dreams faggot. Bonus points for hat wearing blue lobstwr on a leash.

We can clone shit. Can we not just make it breath air?

>>1086997
...not a bad idea.

Need better ball so no leaks. And have to change rather quickly but i like it.

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>>1087023
How hard would it be to rig up a salt water pump and make it like an aquarium. Should last for hours that way.

Just put a swivel on the ball and a small trailer for carry gear ad lobster can go on land adventrures. https://youtu.be/BvVzkLWM4Ug

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>>1087044
Why would u not?

>>1087160
Mr. Pinchy. Fuck.

Came here to laugh at op now i wanna make my remote control lawn mower into a fucking fish tank. Wewlad. Here we go. Puts add on fb. I left the door open and my fish got out. If anyone sees it running around town please call.

Elon Musk has to go find my sides...

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>>1086559
Try pic related, they work pretty well for shipping critters. Should be easy to modify for your needs.

Also
>excrete non-gaseous waste through their gills which would rapidly turn the water toxic?
Yes, though it is a small amount. Can use a bit of zeolite to absorb it.

>>1087173
Litterally diy/ing. My fucking shit anon. Has to have a hat glued on.

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>>1086559
Fuck lobsters. Get yourself a crab. Crabs make great pets and can survive on land.

Pic related

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>>1087194
Good god man. Now we have a legitimate need for helium balloons. Yall are fucking gonna actually kill me.

Never underestemate the power of the internet.

Bringing together a collective group of autists to pull off shit mit couldnt do. And for no reason than "i wanna dog but with pinchers."

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>>1087201

>>1087319
/diy never change!

>>1087437
Kek.

Mfw i am litterally doing this. Sort of.

>be me
>be with bff
>bro takes me to bass pro shop for first time
>sweetaquarium.jpg
>talk about how cool it would be to have 1 etc.
>bro says he wants a tank with just one fish. Like a 40 pound flat head.
>keks turn to dreams.
>mfw i am litterally building a spare bedroom of our new house into a giant aquarium and building roof access hole. >with proper drainage it doesnt even need to be water proff save from the gasket for the roof.

Already collecting materials. Have a solid couple of pool pumps and a materials for the pump house.

Will for sure show diy after christmas.

>>1087523
Reminds of of that guy on mfk that turned his basement into an arapaima tank.

>>1087188
>engine nacelles on the cart

10/10

>>1087524
I dont know wtf that is but i had a house with water pumps and considered filling the basement as it bred 3 feet of water and snakes. Should have lived on a saltwater aquarium...

>>1087179
Illobsternati confirmed

So... any progress?

>>1087523
Roof access hole.
Please tell me you are doing this over a slab of concrete and not on the second level.

>>1086559
One of the best troll threads I have seen in a long time good job OP, no one could be truly autistic enough to want this yet you received several serious answers

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>>1086559

>>1086728
This but add an exo suit powered by a 2 stroke nitro methane engine with retractable saw blades to defend itself from predators

>>1088248
Never puttting anything heavy on roof. House is built kind of funny. I'm hiring a quality roofer and have some mechanical engineer bros. Im not just going to sawzall a hoke in my roof and duct taoe it.

Theres obviously a gamble i fuck uo and have to patch the roof.

But if we gat a plan i am 90% sure will be successful we going to demo mode. Probably run a rain gutter so the inevitable run off and overflow doesnt stain my shitty siding.

Not exactly a new house.

Actually pretty sure it is 2 houses moved together.

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>>1088279
...not op. I want a blue land lobster more than about anything.

5
4
3
2
1
LAUNCH AUTISM.

>>1087044

protection

>>1088987
>Your new pet demands a weekly stipend to protect your home
>Amount keeps increasing
>One week you refuse to pay
>Come home to find some of your possessions smashed
>Your pet informs you more will be broken unless you now pay double per week
>Realise you're now trapped in a lobster protection racket

>>1086559
Hey OP, BSC Science here w/ Chem major. The biggest problem is the raise in temperature more than anything. They are actually pretty good at holding water themselves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGSlt0CnFr4

first rule of lobster fight club is not to talk about lobster fight club

>>1089481
>first rule of lobster fight club is not to talk about lobster fight club
So, what is?

>>1086559
i wonder how many generations it would take to selectively breed a lobster of optimal amphibianness

>>1089600
Well, "optimal" doesn't really end, does it?
But it would probably take, oh, at least 50 generations to breed a good level of amphibian-ness.
How long is a lobster generation, do you think? 5 years?

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>>1086559
This reminds me of a thread I saw over at /an/ half a year ago.
There a crazy Swed were trying to breed feral Guinea pigs that could survive the harsh wild north he had a solid plan... Never heard from him since.
My point being I hope you all succeed! It would make this world hell of a lot more interesting.

>>1089405
>lobster protection racket.

Jesus Christmas anon.

Can someone please screencap i'm mobile ;(

This is funny as shit.

>>1089595
Is to not talk...

>>1089600
We can clone shit. Why the fuck can I not have a miniature rhino or saddle up a 2,000 pound rat and ride up buildings and shit?

>>1089611
So it's settled. Weven start a club. Illobsternati. Our grandchildren and their kids will have amphibious lobsters.

>>1089664
I've had a dream all ofor my life to essentially have bunker bro'so setup and spend years breading random shithings that isn't native to Kansas and turning it loose at random. Like turn loose several million tropical birds loose in summer and have food hidden all over and materials for them to build nests and hang out. Or some sort of nonviolent monkey or something. The logistics alone are horrible but fuck it would be funny to walk outside and see like 5 million flying squirrels.

>>1089670
I was poking fun at your incorrect grammar.

>>1087173
>Your lobster has died of dysentery

>>1089685
Yeah. I can't English for shit m8.

>>1086716
High teenager is high.

>>1086606
>post hipsterism
Why can't you just be like everybody else and go catch a racoon or a gremlin or something

>>1086559
What you need to do is create a sealed jacket for the lobster out of oil based clay. It will form a watertight seal wherever you mold it against the lobster so you can make a pocket the whole way around its gill area and still give it the use of its legs. Then it's just a matter of adding a battery powered aerator.

>>1087026
>>1088315
Coconut crab power armor

>>1086559
How about taking it a step back and make a small plastic aquarium with wheels and sensors that detect where the lobster wants to move. Then it will drive the aquarium through the house. You got to make a feeding station so it has any motivation to move there. it would also be interesting to see if the lobster can navigate like that.

>>1090879
I posted links to this just above for goldfishes

>>1087026
be safe dogo, those things kill small pets

Maybe plastidip the little guy a couple of times to make a wetsuit for it. Then just run sone water through it and make a cool little helmet

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>>1087427

>>1088294
be safe doggo

>>1090897
what i meant was an entirely different thing and sure deserves its own post.

>>1089669
Press lock and home button to screenshot on mobile.

>>1086559
An absolute mad man.

>>1091552
Thanks but it's shit. And I need 3rd party shit software to make quality Screencap. Oh well.

>>1091552
>He uses an iPhone
How does it feel to use a phone made to be easily used by anyone?
I bet you feel real indifferent about it when you aren't thinking about how useful it is on short notice.

>>1088461
I think that anon was more concerned that you're going to be putting several tons of water weight on the floor of your room, which would prob crash through a second floor and flood your entire house

>>1091582
Had my Samsuck S6 a year before I learned that trick. The hand swipe thing is the single gayest way to do anything ever.

Btw. My s7 isn't any better. Slow as fuck piece of freezing shit. I might go apple next year.

At least I can throw a 250gig SD card in tho. Still fucking passed at sealed batteries.

>>1091639
Oh. Yeah. Shit no. Building metal walls and congregating pipe in. Pouring footings or a pad that will hold it. I will do the math and contact professionals. I don't want to die in my sleep by taking a flathead to the face or a wall...

>>1086636
>Surely, the aeration will remove the CO2 as readily as it adds oxygen.

So...a maxwell's daemon of seawater?

>>1091978
I can do anything with my LG G4...

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>>1086559
Just buy a scorpion

>>1087508
Fucking kek

Map the neural connections of the lobster's brain and plug it into a robot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_i1NKPzbjM
Works for worms, lobster brain can't be that much more complicated

>>1087288
That's pretty fucking funny though.

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>>1092631
/diy. Never dissapoint.

>>1090324
underrated post

>>1092751
That screencap isn't very good.
No context.

>>1086559
Lobsters do not have the muscles necessary to walk on dry land. Their legs are very near vestigal, they move with their tail. Crabs walk on dry land just fine without the reverse scuba tank. Why are you doing this OP?

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>>1093357
Science.

And what the fuck is this?

>>1093833
Are you asking us to define that?

>>1089670
Now you're splitting the infinitive.

>>1093357
what about an omnidirectional treadmill in a tank that translates their movements into actual on-ground movements via wheels connected to the bottom of the tank?

>>1087025
Figure out volume of the ball and how long it takes for the level of oxygen to drop to dangerous levels, put a motor drive on top of it consisting of omnidirectional wheels and automate it to take over and slowly return the ball to a dock that flushes the water before it gets to dangerous. Also perhaps use the robot drive to protect against running down stairs

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>>1088315
>>1090790
Like timbersaw?

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>>1086559
> I want to make a device which allows lobsters and other oceanic crustaceans able to survive on dry land for longer.

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>>1094179
>my lobster fell down the stairs...

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>>1092631

>>1087523

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Water, is in fact, one ton per cubic meter, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, pretty fucking heavy.

I hope you've done the math.

I'm glad this thread is still up
Bump

>>1095144
Lol, I will second this.

Rip mods.

~8 POUNDS A FUCKING GALLON.

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>>1095141
If water is over one ton pretty cubic meter and the earth is 70% water then why did the earth not collapse on itself? It lying bro. No way 1 ton per mile. IDIOT

Could someone cap the thread for me i cant take screenshots

>>1092631
It looks like they copied what a worm does and programmed the Lego bullshit to move around.

Exactly like a 12 year old with a new robotics kit could do.

That's not science.

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>>1095353
Sure thing man

>>1095382
Little more?

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>>1095428
No problemo

>>1095382
>>1095428
>>1095442
Kektastrophe!

>>1095363
Their whole project is open source my man, feel free to critique their efforts directly

>>1095363
did you even watch the video?

>>1086712
This. They normally hang out in 40f water. Need to simulate that environment as well.

>>1096060
we'll just add a cold suit + a few helium balloons

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>>1087508
so it's true after all

Interesting idea... bumping for interest.

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>>1096425
>a few helium balloons
can we also dissolve that in the water so it can commit suicide?

>>1095363
https://youtu.be/tgLjhT7S15U
Is this any better?

>>1096508
>Sea Snipper

I will be calling all lobsters "Sea Snippers" from now on.

>>1086559

I think the way to go is to get some of that thick industrial sealable plastic and use that to make any kind of shaped like suit. You could use something like a heated glue gun to seal the edges.
I think you should work with something like a tube and a central pump to fill the suit and create life support.
Also, the plastic suit should have some sort of frictionpads on the leg segments.

Also, i looked up that hamster guy. Shit's so wierd it's respectable..

inb4 diy domestication uprise

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>>1086559
any progress?

>>1086559

This is something I have dreamed of too. Good luck OP, and please tell about this if it succeeds.

>tfw he hasn't filled us in on how it's working

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>>1100713
It's entirely possible OP ate the aeronaut in question.

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>>1087137
It seems like
>>1087265
was on to my idea. I originally thought it like pic related.
The image is of a crayfish because I forgot that we were talking about a lobster. I hope you can extrapolate anyway?

>>1087508
Depends on the crab...

>>1089672
Cloning isn't genetic engineering. But it's getting better.
when I was at uni the problem was to put the new genetic sequence in the correct place. And suddenly we have CRISPR Cas and shit just got easy!