I'd like to buy land in the US and start building all kinds

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>>1069619
Nice meme

>>1069636
nice bump. thank you.

>>1069642
Haha that's what you think

>>1069619
This is my fetish. Please continue.

Don't come to Nevada. It's illegal to catch rainwater and sunlight here. They think it will make the sun run out faster.

Mojave - if you're into solar panels and have played FO:NV.

If you're a climber: Rockies

If you like hiking and other hikers.... Appalachians.

Kansas or Virginia might work

>>1069619
You also need to take into account the usability of the land. Desert isn't very good for off-grid crops, but is good for solar and wind. Mountains are "okay" for solar but also suck for crops and wind, but are great for microhydro of any type. Temperate areas are very doable for crops, wind, and sun. Southern climates are normally crowded, but great for solar, crops, wind, and normally microhydro.

I live in a temperate rainforest area. It gets 110F in summer and -15F in winter. There can be rains unending some years and 4-12 feet of snow in some winters. Or it can be drought-like conditions in summer and nothing but mud all winter long. Crazy shit. Land here is dirt cheap since it is a flyover state. Everything looks good except when you are looking at the locals.

I am a subsistence farmer. I'm also extremely lazy. That being said, I built my own house and own all my own land. I grow typical vegetables and raise chickens. The chickens lay enough eggs to pay for their upkeep and make some side cash. The same goes for the vegetables.

I have my own water well and sewer. I've messed around with wind, hydro, biogas methane, biomass, gravity, bicycle, and solar, but nothing on large scales enough to power my place. The more I researched it the less I was inclined to convert to off-grid power. It would take 25+ years to pay back the costs in savings just for a battery array and that's without any problems like replacements and maintenance costs. Add PV solar on that and it is a joke. Wind and water I can DIY easily, as well as Sterling solar.

Instead of being fully off-grid, like I planned, I'm grid tied only for electric. When it goes out, I switch to some cheap car batteries and inverter and only use my 35watt netbook and a light or 2.

Why? Because my PC is 600watts and is 95% of my electric bill ($35-$45/month.) It is in that power range that alternative power making isn't feasible.

>>1069789
>It gets 110F in summer and -15F in winter. There can be rains unending some years and 4-12 feet of snow in some winters

jesus christ what state is this?

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>>1069972
Crematoria.

OK.
The only thing that matters is WATER.
If you can't drill a well or tap into the city supply, living there will be virtually impossible.

>>1069619
Landandfarm.com
Landforsale.com
>$30k for half an acre in southern California.
>$30k for 42 acres in rural Georgia.

Buy as much land as you can afford.
10 acres is the bare minimum IMO.
I have a neighbor that's about 3/4 a mile away- on a still night I can hear him and his daughter out in their horse barn.
25 acres is good for playing around. Room for a house, a garage far enough away that the noise won't bother the newborn baby, a dirt track on the backside for screwing around with dirt bikes or oval track cars.
50 acres is better though.
Recently logged tracts will go for cheap, since an investor just bought it to make money off the timber and flip.
Heavily forested parcels will cost more because trees=money.
Ponds attract deer AND snakes.
My building codes for houses/cabins/trailers/mobile homes are somewhat lax, but building a pond falls under federal waterway protection if its near a creek or floodplain and is near impossible to build nowadays without studys- and then its usually only approved for crops or cattle, not recreation.

I've been on my 15 acres for 2 years now.
It was freshly logged and had zero utility's when I bought it.

>>1070114
are you the guy that posted in that tractor thread a while back?

I just got solar installed and here is what I found out

3kW is the bare minimum for a whole house, and that is if you have access to propane or natural gas for cooking and heating.

Whatever you think you need double it. Cover your entire structure

Going off grid means you need a way to store power for windless and rainy days. You will need to heavily invest in a battery backup. It will need to be your current daily power x3 if you want to ensure you have juice.

Supplement with wind when possible just don't get your hopes up.

A generator is a must, diesel being the most stable fuel for long stretches of inactivity, followed by propane.

Keep a good rotation of rechargable batteries and make sure they are always topped off

www.landwatch.com has some decent properties

>>1070358
I was one of the posters, yes.

>>1069972
Probably Michigan.

>>1069619
They are using one of those sexy outback rigs in that garage

>>1070114
What are he and his daughter doing in the horse barn at night?

>>1070432
riding

>>1070432
You realize that, depending on pasture, horses need to be fed twice a day, right? Just a little hay in the morning to warm them up, then let them graze, then more hay (and probably some grain) at night. At winter the metabolism of the hay keeps them warm.

Aroostook County, ME

>>1069619
Buy land zoned as agricultural. You're free to build whatever you want on it. Just keep in mind you probably won't have access to utilities like water, sewer, power, gas, or Internet. Montana would be an ideal place, the state has a very low population density. You'll need to know how to hunt and farm since the nearest grocery store will be at least 100mi away.

>>1069681
What

>>1070560
The water bit is true, the rest I'm not so sure about

>>1069972
It's like that in Minnesota too.

>>1070432
fucking the horses, what did you think?

Can you tell me where to find as much info as possible on solar systems plz?

I'm not planning on building a fully off the grid system but I'm building my first house next year and I'm really interested in alternative energy sources.

>>1070613
Google is a great website for resources on solar power.

>>1069777
>>1069789
>>1069972
>>1070114

Georgiafag here; Varied landscapes, cheapish tracts of land, decent weather, and snow if you move to the northern area of the state, but not so much you want to kill yourself.

>>1070613
Solar has been stagnant.
The cost is still prohibitive.
Panels have gotten a lot cheaper, but just replacing that bank of battery's every 5-10 years killed anything you saved from being off the grid.
Add in some inverter failures and you would have been better off not spending the money at all.
You need a large system to do heating and cooling.

However- solar water heating is basically free.
Those are just black piping on the roof that your water passes through first. Even if the water is only heated up to 90° on a partly cloudy day- coupled with a tank less water heater and heater is starting with 90° water instead of 60° water is a major power saving.

>>1069681
>>1070560
>>1070561
That's incorrect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainwater_harvesting#United_States

>>1071460
Oh ok I'll trust a site where everything is maintained and updated by people instead of what's in the local newspapers and on the local news and also what I personally hear in the city meetings. Sounds great bud, thanks for googling that.

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>>1071460
weird. i guess this article and dozens more i found on google are lying

>>1071466
>>1071470
http://www.ncsl.org/research/environment-and-natural-resources/rainwater-harvesting.aspx
Not listed as a state that prohibits rainwater harvesting.

http://www.rgj.com/story/news/2015/05/26/ask-rgj-can-nevadans-collect-rain-barrels/27983037/
"Yes, it's illegal."

http://www.lawyers-plus.com/illegal-collect-rainwater/
"No, it's legal."

Seems like a lot of conflicting information.

But if the state engineer says it, as in here:
http://mynews4.com/news/local/catching-rainwater-in-nevada-is-illegal-could-be-up-for-debate

Then that's probably the way it is.

I'm really liking this thread . I've been having this fantasy of buying some land in Wyoming and building a little cabin, but I don't anything about building a house

>>1071563
The ones that say it's legal are old sources. It became illegal earlier this year. Solar panels are only illegal in certain cities, including mine, because the local energy company bribed the town. They are currently attempting to make it a state law and it looks like it'll pass.

I'm still going to do both though because it's my land and it's fucking retarded.

>>1070630
bypass the inverter issues by using 12/24 volt appliances, actual washing machines, microwaves, compressor refrigerator/freezers, fans, and A/C systems. INSULATE TO HELL AND BACK, VENT YOUR ATTIC SPACE, place your home to maximize cooling in summer/heating in winter. Have a well vented shed to dry out your fast growing lumber for fire/heating/boiling water.

Water, get a well or drill yourself, have a well done 5x capacity septic system setup, batteries and water tower for ease of water pressure, COVERED PROPANE TANK for inline water heating/dryer/cooking.

Water, Sewage, Power, Heating/Cooling, Food Preservation, Shelter.

Good to go anon.

>>1070613

get free ebooks on solar energy by going to Google
type "filetype:pdf solar energy"

also use terms like renewable energy, etc

>>1069619
Remote and off grid are fine objectives, but for me it's more important that they have no building codes. If I want to live in a fucking shed, I should be able to live in a fucking shed.

Coffee county Tennessee.

Decent internet.
1 hour drive to Nashville with lots of IT jobs.
No state income tax.
No emissions testing.
No building codes.

TN FTW.

>>1069619
>Places that are pretty remote and with a low population

>>>/minnesota/

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>>1072239
I will see your Minnesota, with its 68 people per square mile and raise you Alaska, with its 1.3 people per square mile. Hell, it's barely in the top 20, let alone top 10.

>>1070114
Looked up my area. Everything over 1 acre was $100,000.

Cheapest was .17ac for 86k

What the fuck yo, idaho doesn't have that many people let alone that kind of income, how do you even afford that shit

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>>1071602
>They are currently attempting to make it a state law and it looks like it'll pass.

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>>1072245
I was born and raised in California.
Lived in las Vegas for awhile.
I had $40,000 in savings, was going to buy a house.
Couldn't find anything that wasn't absolute shit and/or on more then 0.12 acres (yes, 8 joke houses per acre) for under $130k.
That's why I live in Georgia now.
I decided what was more important.

Not sure where the fuck you are in Idaho

Here's 10 acres, $18,000
Pic related.


http://landandfarm.com/property/1_10_Acres_Tensed_ID-3221706/

Sometimes you need to move...

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>>1072245
Here's another.
Plummer Idaho.
13 acres, $25,000

Last one was in Tensed Idaho.

>>1072242
And .01 females per square mile in Alaska.
Have fun with that....

>>1072256
I need to buy an rv and just move. I could do those two easily and just build a timber frame house in my freetime

>>1072262
Yep.
And is there any reason to stay in Idaho?
If you're willing to move to another state the options really open up.

I'm in Georgia. I can be in savannah in less than 2 hours, but my nearest town is 247 people. Walmart about 30 miles away.

We have denalibro in alaska- he spends like 6 months working on ship and the other 6 hunting in his cabin. He has supply's flown in on a sea plane that he takes his snowmobile down the mountain to meet the pilot at a lake without a name.

Another anon is in maine- he had flooding so bad this year that he spent the better part of a week on his ATV trying to check on neighbors and get to town.

We post more on /out/

>>1072266
>He has supply's flown in on a sea plane that he takes his snowmobile down the mountain to meet the pilot at a lake without a name.
There's a country song in that somewhere.

>>1072266
>any reason to stay in Idaho?
Amazing gun laws, /out/tivities, relativly low population, agreeable weather and rain, great hunting opportunities, minimal govement interference (discounting federal bullshit)

I would love to live in the cascades in all honesty, but California is shitting the place up, land prices are stupid high, socialism is taking root there.

Alaska is a close second, but fuck winter. If the earth ever tilts down enough to make it not permafrost i would move there in a heartbeat

8ch
/kountry/

>>1069619
This is my dream, honestly. Building a home on some land, doing some farming, crafting, etc.

>>1072436
Yeah I'd rather not go to jail for cheesy pizza

>>1072436
>no new topics or discussion since 2015
Yeah nah. I was in on that when it originally started up, but as with all similar attempts, it broke down and fell apart.

>>1072257
Since when females are vital for life? Grow the fuck up.

>>1072825
Toilet paper and jacking off aren't vital for life either but I'll be damned if I give up either.

>>1072825
>>1072996
And this thread just achieved 4chan gold.

>>1072292
>you and me baby ain't nothing but mammals

>>1071602
What a corrupt shithole.

Is it true that rainwater tracks are taxed in Germany?

>>1072406

Socialism os what happens when capitalism works all too well.

People get comfortable and bored so they have to start making things difficult for that little bit of adrelanine rush.

>>1072242
>no fiber

lmao "no"

Hail, Georgiafags. I own a small plot here too, not so good for this sort of nonsense though. I just plan on building it up and renting it to other people for now to gain some basal income.

Eventually Ill own my own shit shack in the middle of nowhere and fuck off forever. I cant wait not to work for faggots. I figure planning now will help a bit when automation ruins everyones day in 15 years.

>>1070626
Do you say Atlanta, Georgia or A-lanna, jawjuh

>>1069619
Man after skimming this thread I feel I should mention canada. I live in manitoba north of winnipeg. Winter isn't so bad once you're used to it. A buddy of mine recently bought 45 acres for 45000. I'm buying a 3000sqft house on 10 acres for 400k in two years (parents house). There's land fucking everywhere for sale for dirt cheap. I know a guy in Ontario that bought a section of land 10 years ago that he has to fly in. He opened a mine with no experience whatsoever, just a claim and a geologist. He makes 2.5m a year and pays so little tax on his assets it's infuriating.

>>1070613
>Can you tell me where to find as much info as possible on solar systems plz?

Start here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_System

>>1073770
hahahah ebin xD

Land in Greenville FL is 800 an acre. Seen desert land in Texas for 50 an acre

>>1073604
>Winter isn't so bad once you're used to it

Having like 4-5 months of darkness gets you down, though

>>1072266
>Another anon is in maine

That's what he gets for living in Maine.

>>1073543
>Is it true that rainwater tracks are taxed in Germany?
i can check local sources but what do you mean by "rainwater track"?

>>1072233
I'm actually going to be starting a farm in Hamilton County. Trying to find land close enough to get fiber in the future if it's possible. I'll probably end up off a highway.

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