I don't know if there's a word for this so I'll

>>7020115
Alpha girls are my core fetish, you have painted a beautiful world sir, do you write?

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>>7020193
I don't, though a bunch of my friends did encourage me to. I just don't have the concentration or dedication to do anything more long term than a few paragraphs.

>>7020273
A few paragraphs is a good short story, it sounds like a good goal to me. Besides, writing is a good way to build up dedication. Go write anon! :D

It's called gfd/rr and it got banned from this board because everyone into it is terminally autistic

>it's not cum that ''defiles'', it's pussy juice - conversely, guys don't cum inside girls, girls cover guys in juice
People actually think that cum, the fucking fluid that literally CREATES more human beings somehow defiles women? What?

Like 75% of the stuff you mentioned already exist today lol

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>>7020115

It was called ancient Greece, when people were actually Androcentric, homosexuality was common place, and the penis was seen at the font of divinity. Our society right now, especially the most patriarchal such as the middle east etc, is still gynocentric.

>>that's not a gender role in so much as a biological fact of averages
>>already happening, men are just shamed for it.
>>already happening save for the jobs no one wants, sewers, garbage, dangerous etc.
>>already happening, some of the first game designers were women too
>>already happening, already happened too.
>>way, way, way, waaaaaaay, already happening. Look up what porn women search for most.
>>This is just wording, and it's already happening, unless you're in the law then it's all penetration.
>>already happening, just like throwing panties onstage.
>>already happening, women expect men to be dom and do all the work. Hence starfishing. If men were REALLY dom she'd be expected to do the work. Also, women have been the ruler of the household since the begining. Yes, even in the fifties.
>>cum does not defile. There are chemicals inside it that actually release calming hormones and 'feel good' hormones once absorbed by women- even oraly.
>>already happening, just no one talks about it. Again see the Greek.
>>already happening, fashion magazines do nothing but talk about how to please 'your man'.
>>VERY already happening, just look at world star, women fight brutally over men. They just don't let men know about it.

>>7020115
>I don't know if there's a word for this
Role Reversal / Reverse Rape

>>7020333
I really want the size/strength inversion part to be a global thing. Tall powerful girls wanting small delicate guys to Dom, plus being the leaders in all the romamatic rituals, doing the courting and chasing etc. It's too good.

>>7020347
>people were actually Androcentric, homosexuality was common place
Bullshit on both counts.

>>7020115

i'm with the other guys man you should really write some more stories on this world of yours.

>>7020368

A whole portion of the Greek military were homosexual men. It was an exclusive and highly honored 'club' more or less. Men, especially young men, flaunted their sexuality. Large penises were considered vulgar, small was considered beautiful and dainty... that's why a lot of greek art has disproportionate junk going one way down the spectrum for humor, and the other for serious beauty. Can't tell you everything, but do a bit a research if you like. Just not on Wikipedia.

Sounds good you should do it

>>7020115
>Is there (a good source of) material like this

/rr/ Story list:
Taiyakisoba:

>Absorption:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/5343203/chapters/12337505

>The Vixen:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/5202542/chapters/11990246

>Under the Falcon's Wing:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/4653132/chapters/10613943

>The Leprechaun's Charms:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/3645492

>The Sentimental Succubus:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/3241379/chapters/7061726

>A Taste for Christmas Cake:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/3145253/chapters/6822353

>Takeover:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/2779652/chapters/6235439

>Wings of Desire:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/2760794

>In Her Argent Embrace:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/2606318/chapters/5806514

>Bringing the Heat:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/2454164/chapters/5439332

>Love-Love Umbrella:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/2219088

SifSub:

>Until you are:
http://pastebin.com/KbnXtAbp

>My manager is my mistress:
http://pastebin.com/TJAvFqgf

>I don't bite:
http://pastebin.com/hWmZEyjb

Smolbrit:

>Minotaur's Labyrinth:
http://pastebin.com/b7dURJkY

>The Bear and the Wolf Cub:
http://pastebin.com/4PQW6E5B

Others:

>Pretty Human: (by Sea Foam):
http://seafoam.pbworks.com/w/page/77839289/Pretty%20Human

>Love You to Bits!: (By SilentOtakuGirl):
http://silentotakugirl.deviantart.com/art/Love-You-to-Bits-529875044

>Escape from the Bermuda triangle:
http://pastebin.com/DpnRrRs0
http://pastebin.com/uEvgTUsM

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>>7020392

At first I was like 'Geesh, that;s how he sees mwn and woman relationships',
But then I was like '...ew, for fuck's sake. Who sends photoes of their genitals?"

...but then I was 'Ah, discussion about antient Greece - I love you people...'

So-o... Actually I wonder if thread's author had read any myths relatedto amazons in Greek mythology. =ω=

>>7020115
>men don't penetrate, girls envelop
wow m8, wew lads

why not just do internal testes like some mammals do and have some kind of space docking, smdh senpai.

OP literally described a hentai where the MC gets transported to a world like that and whores himself out.

>>7020473
Don't bother linking it, just tease us.

>>7020623
fuck off i lost the link to it
>>7020473
please do link it

>>7020115
I like dominant women, but I think it's hotter if they're dominant in a feminine way instead of just acting like dudes.

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>>7020473
>>7020623
>>7020635
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/831979/2f024c556a/

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>>7020875
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/841662/9bd5cfc8ad/

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>>7020878
http://hentaifox.com/gallery/33709/

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>>7020882
https://nhentai.net/g/158257/
(No traslantion yet)

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>>7020890
https://nhentai.net/g/172483/
(No translation yet)

>>7020875
>>7020878
>>7020882
>>7020890
>>7020893
thanks senpai

>>7020310
I was wondering why gentlefemdom threads started dissapearing. A shame

>>7020115

>>>/mlp/28377856

https://discord.gg/2Ftws

gfd/rr discord

>>7021157
>https://discord.gg/2Ftws
i recommend reading the "confessions/vent" channel if you want to laugh at broken faggots

>>7021200
Give us examples senpai like is it worth the keks?

>>7020875
>>7020878
>>7020882
>>7020890
>>7020893
Has the anthology a whole bunch of different artists did set in that world been translated yet?

A bunch of really good artists worked on it

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>>7021021
I wonder if they'll ever come back, I kinda miss the good old days before rampant autism. Let me just post these pastebins here if anyone's interested.

http://pastebin.com/hKmK24iJ
http://pastebin.com/5w7qgrM6
http://pastebin.com/jVY1dAeb
http://pastebin.com/Uhrni3cM

>>7020320
if you start questioning fetishes then you might as well leave this board

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The website Choice of Games is a seriously fun site, where you can do all sorts of choose your own adventure stories.

Specifically one called “Choice of Broadsides” is my favorite. You can choose to either play as a man or a woman, but the fun part is if you choose to play as a woman, it sets the game in a world that has reversed gender roles.

It is a short game, but you get to try to work your way up to a captain and woo a few beautiful boys. You guys should definitely check it out.

https://www.choiceofgames.com/broadsides/

I miss these threads....They were awesome.

OP I think I just found a short film of the world you described. It's in French but has subtitles. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4UWxlVvT1A

>>7020390
>the sentimental succubus

Just read through this, its the sweetest thing ive read in quite some time.

>>7022236
>woo
>not just taking them by force as is your right as a female

https://discord.gg/zBMct

there are some pretty good gender role reversal tumblrs to follow if you look for them

Most of them are gentle femdom, but it is close. There is a severe lack of hard gender role reversal. I want my women to act like men sometimes. Maybe thats why I am such a homo

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>>7022236
>>7022873
> be a 1,80m tall, low born woman, captain of the H.M.S. Dauntless in the Albion Navy
> meet with another navy friend
> her husband suggest that I need to find husband for myself
> go to a party with them and find a beautifull yong man
> begin talking with him
> at first, he is not much into me
> when I began telling him my adventures at sea he pays more attention to what I'm saying
> can see the desire in his eyes
> party ends
> give him a goodbye kiss
> leave with friend
> she says that I should look for him tomorrow

> next day
> went to his house, the maid lead me inside
> enter the room with a really big woman with navy uniform inside
> the Admiral
> she is a 2m tall pile of muscle
> look me in the eyes
"So, that is the woman David met last night."
"Ma'am, yes ma'am !"
"Go home."
'kay.jpg

>>7020115
I like this but I don't want the women to be taller/stronger -- I want it to be mental.

>>7020310
From what I read they were defining gfd as more grounded in this world than fantasy. Like it means you want the girl to take initiative in a relationship, that's all. Less a sexual fetish and more a plea to be understood emotionally ...so, it doesn't belong on /d/.

I guess /r9k/ is the best place for it. Fits with their theme they got going.

>>7023103
I'm with you, Anon.

>>7023149
The /r9k/ threads were even shittier, though.

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>>7020310
>>7021021
>>7021982
>>7023149
>>7023202
Well, when this thread 404's we could try setting up a thread on another board. /trash/ is a comfy place, you can have a thread there about almost anything.

>>7023208
did the gfd/rr population move off 4chan? might not be anyone left to have a thread for.

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>>7023218
I'm not sure, threads never last more then a few days before getting deleted but we seem to get a decent number of people.

>>7020115
It's called being a faggot anon

>>7020115
https://exhentai.org/g/968434/49889d7534/
https://exhentai.org/g/959927/b9ba33b279/
https://exhentai.org/g/955330/5ca48adcd2/
https://exhentai.org/g/822871/bf962f4dd7/
https://exhentai.org/g/880430/45df8338b4/
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/790550/d7db62debd/
https://exhentai.org/g/684803/92cf879f7b/
https://exhentai.org/g/401283/306b8f386c/
https://exhentai.org/g/529516/05230cc943/
https://exhentai.org/g/505492/ee4940eb94/
https://exhentai.org/g/957766/4c24c21eae/
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/856364/6c82eb9810/
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/516328/48029ea3ac/
https://exhentai.org/g/917944/16e459215f/

>>7023581
(you)

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>>7020115

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>>7023218
Unless we manage to resettle, then we're pretty much dead on 4chan. There's an entire board dedicated to it on (4 + 4)chan simply called /gfd/. I guess it's impossible to kick us off there, if things really go tits up on 4chan.

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>>7025223
Let's just try moving here:
>>>/trash/

The board is slow enough that a few posts a day is enough to keep threads alive.

>>7025256
>>7023223
>>7023208
sause?

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>>7026198
Yukina from Kabaneri.

>>7020115
This is pretty much my ideal world, except I wouldn't want women to become bigger and stronger.

Also these things in particular:

>men don't penetrate, girls envelop
>it's not cum that ''defiles'', it's pussy juice - conversely, guys don't cum inside girls, girls cover guys in juice

Unf.

In our society, sex is always just a *little* bit dirty and degrading for women, even perfectly vanilla straight sex. If I could feel that same thing... god that would be so hot.

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Does anyone else have any waifus that fit the /rr/ theme?

In appearance or attitude?

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>>7026210
Chiaki isn't very dominant, but her behavior (quiet shy NEET) is probably more typical for a boy. I could imagine, say, cooking her a meal while she plays video games or something.

>>7020649
That already happens in the real world. The feminine way to be "dominant" is to be seductive and underhanded. Lead by pretending to be led, make the man feel strong.

>>7020115
inb4 this gets trolled by tradcons/feminists and then deleted by the mods.

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>>7026210
Plenty. My favourite girls are normally:

>older
>taller if possible, same height if not
>dark haired
>moderately or "dominantly" dressed
>give off a sort a stately, dark or even "edgy" vibe

>>7026258
>give off a sort a stately, dark, or even "edgy" vibe

Yeah, I would love a girlfriend like this. Someone stoic and stable would complement me so well because I'm such an emotional person.

>>7020320
Guys ejaculating on girls to "mark their territory", girls being called "cumdumpsters", etc. There often is a degrading aspect to it.

One thing that would be cute about a gender-swapped world would be girls getting super grossed out by lesbian sex, instead of being more indifferent and open to experimentation like women are today.

>>7020320
It's why the nips love bukkake so much.

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>>7026271
>>7026258
Dark/edgy is okay, but when a girl is kind of stoic and bitchy I get diamonds. Jill Stingray is a perfect example.

>>7020893
>>7020890
wow there's two untranslated ones? nice, so I have something to look forward to hentai wise

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>>7026209
>>7023202
>>7023103
For me I simply dont get the kind of femdom where some scrawny 120lb girl is supposed to be "dominating" some muscly 200lb 6 ft guy. He could snap her like a twig at any time he wants. Is it really domination if the guy is just letting her win and is simply pretending to be dominated?
For the guys that want do be dominated but dont approve of the size/strength reversal what aspect of it do you find un appealing?

Are you worried about the women loosing their softer, smoother, feminine features and becoming too masculine? what if the girls kept thier same looks but were just taller? their stronger Physiology could be fully internalized. They wouldn't have to look outwardly buff or even work out to maintain their strength or physiques (just plain superior genetics etc.) Of course the'yll still be some who work out as a hobby or for their professions /military/major league sports/Emergency services/ which all would star women.

Is it a fear of being Manlets? what guys stayed the same height but girls imply got bigger?

alternatively is it the vulnerability thats un appealing? Surrendering to being on the lower end of the physical food chain? The prospect that any girl on street could potentially rape/mug you if you walk the streets alone? The thought that you to give up that last bit of control and have to 100% trust your partner not to abuse you and treat you roughly? The thought of Not having your strength to fall back on and cant simply over power her if things get bad ?

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>>7026404

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>>7026404
I don't understand anything you're asking or how it's relevant to this fetish.

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>>7026412
He's asking if you prefer women to be large or not, and your reasoning for this preference.

Or at least that's how it sounds to me.

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>>7026404
I'm just not very attracted to tall or muscly women. I like my women to look like women.

This is why psychological domination or outright mind control is often an important part of femdom for me, since I win in the strength department.

But OP's description of a gender-reversed world doesn't really need to involve any kind of strong explicit domination. It's just the sort of subtle power that men frequently exert over women, but in reverse.

>>7026404
>He could snap her like a twig at any time he wants.
Well I'm thinking of a situation where he wants it and wouldn't resist.

>Are you worried about the women loosing their softer, smoother, feminine features and becoming too masculine?
Isn't part of being feminine being weaker and smaller than men? I like the idea of a girl still being that, and yet being free to act like she's not.

Realistically a whole society where women were dominant like men, but without the brute strength, would require the men to be born as happy submissives. Otherwise mental or physical conditioning to that end.

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>>7026420
>mental or physical conditioning to that end

>tfw no government program to round up all men and condition them to serve and obey all women through an intense brainwashing program that includes frequent exposure to female sweat and vaginal secretions and then men are auctioned off to the highest female bidder to live as adoring slaves and a group of rebel men try to escape the brainwashing but I rat them out to our gynocentric overlords because I am dedicated in mind body and soul to the matriarchy

Why is the world so shit, senpai?

Alternate world theory really gets my dick hard.
Like an alien or Amazon world there there are virtually no men in a society. Er go, men are rare and must be protected or some shit like that.

I like a bit more story in my porn, I guess.

I have a really specific thing with this fetish. Does anyone get off on thinking about the possibility that men and women are already biologically programmed this way? Like, the whole history of patriarchal societies has been basically a lie, and men are actually at their happiest and most contented when they're serving the needs and desires of women? You can kind of already spin current-day society to fit this narrative. Men go to absurd lengths to attract and keep women because they're so enamored and spell-bound by them, but the hold that women have over them is mysterious and frightening, so they lash out by taking political power, starting wars, etc. I once saw a comment on another forum where a guy said "my girlfriend keeps talking about how she wants to dominate me, have me take her last name when she marries me, etc, and it kinda pisses me off but I can't deny that it turns me on." And a woman responded with "that's because your body knows it's right, even though your conscious mind denies it." That turned me on so freakin' much.

If (this wouldn't actually happen, but roll with it) scientists published a paper tomorrow explaining that the optimal biological pathway to ensure a man's well-being was activated by him being submissive to a woman, and the trait that leads to aggression and dominance towards women was actually a dangerous mutation, well... I'd definitely be turned on, but mainly I would just feel deeply happy and contented. I want the world to be that way.

>>7026420
What about makeup? Would guys now wear it in hopes of attracting women/showing off for their girlfriend? And what about personal hygiene? I would think that might flip flop as well, but maybe I'm just over thinking things.

>>7026462
>over thinking things

No such thing!

I don't think there's really that bi of a gap between men and women's hygiene, although the idea of women letting themselves go a bit and not shaving often/at all is pretty hot.

>>7026462
Good idea. One thing makeup does is make women look sexually aroused. Like red lipstick. It's a sign for the male to come and approach her.

In a flip flop world where men were seduced, I could definitely see boys wearing blush.

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>>7026459
I don't agree with this entirely, and it does not arouse me. However, I do personally believe the "submissive female, alpha male" societal norm isn't written into or genes, but is rather a construct of power hungry men written into society through the religions they founded.

>>7026467
I wish it was all a societal construct, but testosterone is a powerful drug.

>>7026470
Maybe I just have low T then. I find leadership positions intimidating, and I have strong desires to be coddled and told what to do. I've been meaning to get some blood work done anywho.

>>7026459
>I would just feel deeply happy and contented. I want the world to be that way.
it does make me sad that so many guys irl feel trapped by women but are just too obsessed with them to do anything about it, and so stay unhappy forever. a henpecked whipped man is the most painful thing.

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>>7026404
>I simply dont get the kind of femdom where some scrawny 120lb girl is supposed to be "dominating" some muscly 200lb 6 ft guy

This so fucking much.

I'm 5'7 and [spoiler]110lbs[/spoiler] so the thought of being dominated by a taller girl is especially exciting for me. I actually don't want to get taller or gain weight - I'm perfectly comfortable in my own skin.

Apparently the appeal with barasubs is the concept of the girl somehow being able to make the 6' 200lb guy her bitch. How that is supposed to work is beyond me.

>>7026418
>I like my women to look like women

Funny how you say this because I always thought that taller girls would be seen more as adult women than "girls". Ironically enough, I'm not very attracted to short, "typical" girls since I essentially see them as children.

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Ya'll just sound like a couple of mushy dudes who are too afraid to approach and talk to women so you wish it were the other way around.

>>7026474
I have a friend who's basically a huge pussy. He got blood work done for something unrelated recently, and his T was normal. Testosterone accounts for some differences in behavior, but so do other things.

I think that, biologically, testosterone does most of its important work on the brain while it's still developing.

>>7026487
Yup. You can leave now.

>>7026474
I think the role of hormones is probably overstated, and a lot of it is guys taking advantage of the position that leaders in the past carved out for them.

But I don't think there would be so much goddamn rape in the world if men didn't have a mighty need to conquer.

>>7026487
Yeah see. This is the problem.

>>7026487
It's not just about approaching, it's about being the submissive one in the relationship, and all the other things that would come with a gender-swapped world.

>>7026495
The problem is people being unable to ignore faggots.
Don't feed the trolls. It only encourages them.

>>7026484
There's losing your dignity as a person, and then there's being in a loving relationship where you just happen to be submissive.

>>7026485
>how that's supposed to work is beyond me
Psychological domination, breaking you emotionally, etc. or the guy is just happy to serve. A lot of guys with this fetish don't want to be "broken" physically or mentally, they just want to cuddle.

>taller girls would be seen as more adult
Um... there are plenty of women shorter than me who look like adults?

I'm ok with a girl my height or even slightly taller, but I'm not really into having an obvious height difference.

>>7026502
This.

>>7026499
that's usually called being a manbaby.

>>7026502

Just a little speculation fampai. Settle down and take a rip off your inhaler.

>>7026505
>the guys is just happy to serve

I'm all about this. Even if it was something I didn't particularly care for if my SO knew what she wanted and just took it (so long as it wasn't something that I explicitly disliked) it would turn me on so fucking much.

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Please for the love of God, ignore the trolls and post content. Endless arguing is how the /gfd/ general threads got banned in the first place.

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>>7026505
>Um... there are plenty of women shorter than me who look like adults?

It's a psychological thing - short people, especially short men, are often teased for their height because they are seen as children, that sort of thing.

>>7026505
where are these terrible people who think cuddling is wrong?

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>>7026517
You do realize that you making posts like these is what they want, right?

If we were really ignoring trolls then they wouldn't be getting any replies and no one would be telling people to ignore them. IGNORE THEM, pretend they don't exist.

>>7026512
>SO knew what she wanted and just took it

There's so many fun things you can do with this. It's so hot to imagine being too tired for sex one night, and my girlfriend is just like "sorry, I'm too horny and I need this" and she just starts undressing both of us.

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>Monster Girls
yay or nay?

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>>7026530
Yay. Especially Tio, Rachnera, and Lala imo.

>>7026529
Right? Or she's like "okay, if you don't want to fuck I'll just ride your face for a while." Literally diamonds.

Ignore this part because I'm a degenerate: On a slightly darker note it would also be hot if I was tied up and she was riding me when she started choking me out. Not into asphyxiation, but if she wanted to see me looking pitiful and teary eyed I'd be happy to oblige.

>>7026507J
>unironically using 'manbaby'
top kek

>>7026404
I get the appeal of psychological domination, but for a role reversed world to make any kind of sense women would have to be the larger, stronger sex.

>Surrendering to being on the lower end of the physical food chain? The prospect that any girl on street could potentially rape/mug you if you walk the streets alone? The thought that you to give up that last bit of control and have to 100% trust your partner not to abuse you and treat you roughly? The thought of Not having your strength to fall back on and cant simply over power her if things get bad?
I'm a sizefag and you just described a lot of what makes gentle giantesses so appealing. To be totally helpless before a girl but instead of her abusing that power she's kind and even protective. She's so innocent and compassionate that she would never even THINK of hurting you or anyone else with her size and power.

>>7020115
>>women are the ones who tend to have freaky/er fetishes
This is already true though. Why are girls such fucking perverts? You think it's going to be snuggling leading to missionary, and they just give you a bouquet of eels and go "here, you know what to do with them."

>>7026679
>Bouquet of eels

But they would just wiggle out of your hands

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>>7026679
I don't know what you're talking about. One time I dated a girl that was ashamed that she was into light bondage (blindfolds and handcuffs etc). I felt super awkward wanting to reply with "that's okay, I want to be dressed like a girl, suspended in the air, fucked with a strap on until I orgasm from anal, and then fed my own cum."

Though maybe my experiences are biased because I grew up in a small religions city.

>>7026581
>choking

I'm not into choking (real or fantasy), but I do fantasize about dark things sometimes. It's pretty hot to imagine myself in an abusive relationship, where she hits me, is really controlling about where I go and who I talk to, eventually I go full Stockholm syndrome and think she's the only one who loves me, etc.

>>7026671
> for a role reversed world to make any kind of sense women would have to be the larger, stronger sex.

Not necessarily. Women could take control of the police force and justice system and also take a monopoly on weapons - eg women can legally carry guns but men cannot. Should tip the balance of power in their favor pretty fast.

>>7026404
>Surrendering to being on the lower end of the physical food chain? The prospect that any girl on street could potentially rape/mug you if you walk the streets alone? The thought that you to give up that last bit of control and have to 100% trust your partner not to abuse you and treat you roughly?

Oh damn, I was never into strength differentials before but you may have converted me.

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>>7026716
Again, I'm not into it, and the thought of it is actually kind of scary. I just would be willing to do something like that which I didn't enjoy if my partner would like it.

I had a textbook abusive relationship kind of like that, but not to that extent. DESU it's probably a big part of why I have this kink. I'm moderately ashamed to admit that, but you can't really pick your kinks so whatever.

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>>7026698
Did you end up saying that to her? If so, how did she respond?

>>7026738
I did not. We agreed to share our kinks, but I shared one that while still true was much more tame and would probably please her instead of freak her out. I told her I really like giving head and facesitting. Looking back on it I think it would have been funny to see her sheltered Baptist face filled with shock, fear, and disgust.

Sorry for blogging. I thought it would be okay because it was on topic, but it's not really much of a discussion.

>>7026465
>Boys hanging out and doing makeup together
>Boys trying to dress in ways to accentuate their butts and dicks
wew

>>7026464
That's more what I meant. Less to no social obligation for women to shave their underarms/legs/genitals. We would have to specifically request our girlfriends to do so, and make it "worth the while" for them to put in the effort to do so.

>>7020115
4chan would be weird, but id give my left bollock for a girl wearing a suit, fucking hot mate

>>7021112
Mark this the first time a link to /mlp/ was relevant.

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>>7026766
"Dick or gtfo"

>>7026721
>Not necessarily. Women could take control of the police force and justice system and also take a monopoly on weapons - eg women can legally carry guns but men cannot. Should tip the balance of power in their favor pretty fast.
That wouldn't make them start most of the behaviors in the OP, though. The reason guys are expected to act like that is because we're stronger and tougher and our mating strategy is high risk high reward - we're disposable.

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>>7023581
What are you even talking about?!
at least make a coherent insult you insecure shit for brains fucktard.

>>7026820
>Replying to bait two days later with a trip
You're really trying to fuck up this thread.

>>7026766
This cool guy right here
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>>7026530
Very yay.

>>7026698
is that the same author as that fox girl comic? I love the style so much.

Well you're in luck today OP:
http://www.storysite.org/story/primacy~01.html
http://www.storysite.org/story/primacy~02.html

>>7026404
>For me I simply dont get the kind of femdom where some scrawny 120lb girl is supposed to be "dominating" some muscly 200lb 6 ft guy. He could snap her like a twig at any time he wants. Is it really domination if the guy is just letting her win and is simply pretending to be dominated?
Think of a crocodile tamer sticking his hand in the beasts mouth to demonstrate that it wont bite him. Same thing, only with guys.

>>7026931
This was weird

>>7026931
>Mpreg
That's taking the reversal too far.

>>7026977
All that's necessary for that to fuck up is for the croc to be in a bad mood. Or just hungry.

>>7026992
Git gud

>>7026980
>>7026986
Yeah seriously. Once you combine mpreg and muscular women yo're basically just fantasizing about being a straight woman.

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>>7027012
Not really. I just happen to like (not overly) muscular women and mpreg is good because it gives women the power to screw you over with sex. They can afford to walk away casually and unscathed while you now have a baby to think about. I fantasise about that unfairness or sadistic/indifferent disregard from a woman, not about actually having a baby. I hate babies.

>>7027030
> mpreg is good because it gives women the power to screw you over with sex. They can afford to walk away casually and unscathed while you now have a baby to think about.
this already happens in real life, it's called child support

>>7027077
>monthly check
>24/7 care of someone for 18 years or more
both are bad but one is so much worse

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>>7020115
>not sure about the first one but GOD DAMN!!!

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>>7020115
THIS, THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FIND OUT FOR THREE YEARS! Thank GOD I'm not the only one wondering

>>7026415
source of gif?

>>7027105
>>7026204

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>>7026507
If that's what it is, then I am perfectly fine being called a manbaby.

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>>7026530
You know it.

>>7026870
>Fox girl comic
Now tell me what the genre of that one is, I'm really curious now

>>7027080
the difference is that in any first world country the woman can get an abortion or put the child up for adoption. the man is required to pay for the child regardless of whether or not he consented to its birth

>>7027266
/ss/ I guess, the fox girl goes into heat and a young boy happens to be in her way. thought I saved it but i'm an idiot apparently

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>>7027276
>young boy
You better find that quick fampai

>>7027283
>>7027276
Oneshota Ero Manga by Dhibi (sometimes spelled Dibi)

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>>7020273
>That picture
Happen to know if the artist does more of that?

>>7027285
thank you my negro

>>7020347
Source? Couldn't decipher any of what came up

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>>7020875
>>7020878
>>7020882
>>7020890
>>7020893
O-oh my...
I would give you a kiss if I could but I feel you wouldn't like that

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>>7023218
>>7025223
How about 8 chan? I'm not knowledgeable on the subject but maybe go there, unless it's just a site to here. Second idea is to create our own forum.
Also it took a lot of reformatting to make the system think this isn't spam

>>7025256
Link to the thread please when you start it!

>>7027311
A board for this does exist there, for whatever it's worth.

>>7025223
Always wondered what a lot of their work says. I am not able to read japanese so I'm always in the dark.

>>7027285
>Oh my God
That, that's going in my favorites. There are more too.
Also, what is>>7026698
>>7026729 's from?

>>7027316
Why don't we go there?

>>7027338
>5 active users
meh, guess we should. free up some space on here for the futa.

>>7027349
Im a fan of futa, sometimes I wish the two coulc meld together a little bit. But yeah, if you could send me a link to it I would love to join in

>>7027359
it's an ancient board, but s'alright. 8ch dot net/gfd/res/784 dot html

>>7026459
>the optimal biological pathway to ensure a man's well-being was activated by him being submissive to a woman, and the trait that leads to aggression and dominance towards women was actually a dangerous mutation
You could probably get some university quack to do it, it fits in nicely with some of the more unsavory branches of feminism they hold so dear. The problem would be convincing women to be dominant.

>>7026530
Why is Tio so adorable?

>>7025256
apparently a week ago an /rr/ thread actually got deleted from /trash/ lel

>>7027359
>I'm a fan of futa, sometimes I wish the two could meld together a little bit.
Well, genital swap (dickgirl/cuntboy) tends to be somewhat gfd/rr-ish at times, though it's quite hard to find.

>>7027337
Also by Dibi/Dhibi. Hatsujou to choukyou no aida saishuuwa

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>>7020115
The thought of being on the receiving side of things like blowjobs, handjobs, thigh/buttjob, paizuri etc being considered a submissive thing to do gets me rock hard. I want to unleash a gargantuan load inside a girl and have her pet me and call me a good boy for it.

>>7027388
I made an /rr/ thread on /trash/ about a week ago.
It stayed up for three days but died because /trash/ is slightly faster then /d/ and the threads need a little more bump action to stay alive.

We should make a thread on /trash/ when this one dies. Using OP's post so it's easy to find.

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>>7020368
You illiterate cunt go reading some ancient greek literature and see yourself how much omosexuality was so common it was actually considered "true love".

>>7020122

mmmmm

>>7020376
>A whole portion of the Greek military were homosexual men
So just like the modern military?

>>7027507
>I want to unleash a gargantuan load inside a girl and have her pet me and call me a good boy for it.

Dear fucking God yes.

>>7027366
Thank you good friend

>>7029239
no problemo neighboreeno

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>>7020310
This. Don't make these threads regularly, else the autism will flare back up.

>>7020115


Seems pointless.

>its exactly like thing, but color swapped!

I think whats really being expressed here is a desire to just 'drop out' of life and have your needs catered too; you want a woman who is basically your mom and your dad rolled into one.

>>7022236
This one is also pretty good
https://www.choiceofgames.com/romance/

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>>7030062
The reason there was so much autism was that people felt the need to come into the threads and speculate about the psychology involved. Nobody starts arguments about the social implications of snake vore or goo girls. The other reason was people wanted to turn it into a hookup thread which is obviously stupid.

We should have a rule that nobody fucking cares why you're jacking off.

>>7021157
>>7022940
dammit can you post another link?

>>7030672
Yeah seriously. No one goes into every fart thread and spams "there's clearly something wrong with you for liking this" and "you'll never find a girl who will do this in real life". But that's exactly what happened with the gentle femdom threads. It would have been fine if people didn't take the bait. But they did.

I don't mind making a meta comment now because this thread is winding down, but in future threads, please just ignore the arguments and focus on content.

>>7030326
Definitely not. Men in this world would be expected to do tasks like housework, childcare, etc. They'd also have to deal with being discriminated against in the workplace, making less money, and other things that women sometimes deal with.

If what you say is true, then you're implying that women get to "drop out of life" RIGHT NOW in the real world, and any woman who likes performing traditional feminity is also someone who wants to "drop out of life".

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>>7030704
women are allowed to do that because they bear children
men don't

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I love jasper

>>7030972
ah yes
the bara wife

>>7030672
No one would follow that rule, and people are still gonna take bait. Trust me, I was in those threads for years, and it doesn't matter how much you tell people, they are still gonna bait and take bait. There was even a massive copypasta posted every thread about how you shouldn't take bait. gfd just had no self control. I almost think it was the baiters samefagging.

>>7030700
Actually, fart threads do have regular shitposters. People just dont take the bait.

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>>7030704


I don't think you're tracking. I'm not talking about socioeconomics, I'm talking about fantasies. There's no point in bringing up hypothetical 'drawbacks' like theyre some kind of validating shield.

When viewed as a narrative device, it is hacknied and trite; no meaningful changes, simply taking something that already exists in one sense and just reskinning it. So look rather, what is it about this world that would appeal to guy here in this world?

It speaks to a guy who feels burdened by responsibility or wishes to be free of the uncertainty of autonomy; it speaks to a guy who wishes for a s/o that is proactive about sex so he doesn't have to worry about how to into women anymore (and also get lots of sex).


Or in other words, men can clearly see and understand the benefits of patriarchy/patriarchalist social arrangements better than women can.

>>7020115
>guys don't cum inside girls, girls cover guys in juice
This sounds so absurd that its actually extremely sexy at the same time

>>7030704
>any woman who likes performing traditional feminity is also someone who wants to "drop out of life".
a ton of people (both men and feminists/feminazis) do try to argue this. there is a criticism that psychologically they don't want to choose a direction in life for themselves-- they just serve others and live through them. but yeah that job is still extremely difficult, regardless.

>>7030930
the women bear the children but they need not take care of them 24/7. the fact that pretty much all childcare still falls on women in modern times is just our society, it can change.

>>7031243
the cute little fountain spurted out by a male is kinda humiliating if you think about it. it's exaggerated in porn to make it look more dominating but what is it really compared to all-enveloping, ever-flowing vagina?

>>7031266
>the fact that pretty much all childcare still falls on women in modern times is just our society

who told you this, your gender studies professor? and you believed it?

>>7031586
No just being married and being around other married people. Even though both men and working are working now there's less expectation for the husband to do house chores on top of that. House husbands aren't common -- although my dad was one.

>>7031786
what makes you think that's due to "society" and not biology?

>>7020347

that's fucking wrong and you're fucking retarded. Spartans had to beat their women into submission for marriage. Greek men could cheat on their women and women just had to take it (even when they cheated with other men and little boys).

Males were always the dominant gender until the invention of birth control. there was never a society that treated women as equal or as dominant. Ever. Because of the nature of the fact that if women were out dying at war or hunts or at dangerous jobs, no one would be around to have babies, and the society/city/tribe/nation would collapse.

Please don't be retarded.

>>7028019

greeks being ok with gay sex isn't even close to what OP was talking about. Sexually, humans are like bonobos more than anything else. we just bang whatever wants to be banged, even if we have preferences. It was during the rise of language that people, including the greeks, realized that open sexuality meant more disease. before that, the only thing that limited sex was fear of pregnancy, which wasn't the case with gay sex.

>>7031984
Well one feeds the other. Many women want to stay home and be fulltime mommy but others, despite wanting to have a career, put in more than their fair share of childcare bc there's pressure to not look like an uncaring mom. A dad doesn't have to do much hard work to be seen as a good father, just give some advice here and there. The idea that women are born for/in love with motherhood and all its drudgery is a convenient myth.

>>7031266

>the women bear the children but they need not take care of them 24/7.

someone has to take care of them, 24/7. who's it gonna be? The woman needs to take at least a year to be pregnant safely and nurse the child. The man will continue to work.

Just like today, you think the guy running the docks or the farm or the mines is gonna be like "sure, just when you're ready to pass off your kid to your barely functional elderly mother, or you sisters who also have dozens of kids, you're job will be waiting for you!"

Also, as I said above, work is dangerous. especially back then. no society wanted women dying off at work or hunting or war because then no one will be having kids and the society collapses. It's why women were so fiercely protected. it's why in the ancient era, when a region was conquered, they killed off all the males, but took all the women within the conquering tribe. It's because women are a very important resource in the ancient world.

>>7032016

>Many women want to stay home and be fulltime mommy

so do many men. Chillin at home all day instead of having a schedule and a boss sounds like an awesome job.

>bc there's pressure to not look like an uncaring mom.
>A dad doesn't have to do much hard work to be seen as a good father

both wrong. bad dads are seen as horrible. women are constantly forgiven for messing up when it comes to children. but a bad father is never forgiven. additionally, fathers are disregarded constantly. CONSTANTLY. Men are seen as unable to raise or pass morality or train discipline into children. The only time the father is listened to is if it's in a scenario where multiple kids are involved, and multiple fathers band together. Otherwise, women immediately ignore, disregard, disrespect, and dismiss any input the father offers.

You literally did it yourself.

>The idea that women are born for/in love with motherhood and all its drudgery is a convenient myth.

Then why is it every mammalian species we are even closely related to has such extreme mother/child bonds to the point of self sacrifice or harm at the expense of the children?

Oh, but somehow, humans aren't like every other animal we're related to? Some women don't have that bond. and even then, most of the time, it's due to unnatural influences, like addiction or psychological issues. But a vast majority of human women would bond more fanatically to their child than any other type of bond humans can have.

>>7032015
>Sexually, humans are like bonobos
You really think so? Is it normal to desire to do sexy things with other men or even be open to it?

Shinsekai Yori was a good anime btw. Too bad the bonobo-hormone part of it was kind of underdeveloped.

>>7032038
>Chillin at home all day instead of having a schedule and a boss sounds like an awesome job.
I don't have any kids myself but having screaming hungry children underfoot while you're home all day is definitely not chillin. It sucks.

>women are constantly forgiven for messing up when it comes to children.
I'm not really sure what you mean other than maybe lighter sentences for child abuse crimes. On an everyday level, I see lots of competition around me to be the best possible mommy to little Billy you can be -- oh you didn't do the baby yoga classes? oh you're feeding him THAT? etc.

>humans aren't like every other animal we're related to?
we aren't, in many ways...we have more control over our instincts if they interfere with our personal goals.

>>7032038
>Some women don't have that bond. and even then, most of the time, it's due to unnatural influences, like addiction or psychological issues.
What did you just say about my momma?

>>7032078
>I don't have any kids myself

then why are you talking about parenthood as if you know anything about it?

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>Women being stronger and more active than men is less tolerable than girls shoving parasites into their vaginas, giantesses gassing cities of millions to death with their farts, and girls eating eachother
You fags never cease to amaze me. Of all the threads to shit up, you choose the most vanilla one, on the grounds that it's too weird? Just post pictures or leave.

>>7032262
people having different opinions than you doesn't mean they're shitting up the thread, princess

>>7032042

we're not as extreme as bonobos, but we're very related to them. Humans are sexually fluid as well, much like bonobos. It's why historically, gay sex was normal until people started realizing disease somehow spreads with it. People weren't stupid, they just didn't have the tools to figure out what disease was. But they knew disease spread (usually).

>>7032078

>I see lots of competition around me to be the best possible mommy

I see a lot of competition for a lot of things. That doesn't matter. People compete for lots of things. it's human nature. Moms also eat food and drink water and poop.

>we have more control over our instincts if they interfere with our personal goals.

not anymore than animals. Especially mammals with intelligence similar to ours. Dogs have self control. all domesticated animals do. Even wild rodents, elephants, and deer do.

>>7032372
>not anymore than animals.
I know you're trying to be edgy but come on. Humans do a number of special counter-evolutionary things, like using birth control.

Still animals though, yeah.

>>7032372
>historically, gay sex was normal
I'm gonna need more sauce to swallow that.

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>>7032341
You're wasting bumps without posting pics and don't contribute.
Moreover, discussions like this are exactly what caused the backlash against the older threads. It's not relevant. Just post pictures or other relevant material.
>>7030672

>>7032413
Are you a janitor, anon?
Or are you just a random dipshit who thinks he gets to make the rules?

>>7030062
sauce?

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>>7032413
True that.

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Like fucking clockwork, the boring autism flares up again.

>>7032422

He's 100% right though.

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>>7020273
write a few paragraphs, dammit! Do it now! Then do it again!
The more often you do it, the easier it will be! It'll be a rewarding hobby, and the subject will be a hit with deviants and feminists alike!
You have a fetish that's both inoffensive and exciting, for fuck's sake RUN WITH IT!!!

>>7026487
pretty much. Thanks for your input

>>7031266
It's interesting to imagine how child-bearing would go in a reversed role society.

In a world where women are the dominant ones, pregnancy would kind of be the only time in their lives where they'd be in the needy, cared-for position.

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>Girls are the ones who waste time watching shota moeblob anime and making ironic memes and >tfw no bf threads

>>7032630
girls like that do exist. they're just 300 pound tumblrwhores

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>>7032692

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>>7032692
I didn't think I would need to specify I was talking about humans, not whales

>>7020115
Truly... a paradise

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>>7020115
you may or may not be interested in the webcomic drowtales. the setting has a fairly matriarchal society, including swearing like sailors and making jokes about who has the bigger cunt. no graphic sex scenes though, those happen off-panel.

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>>7032572
>>7031266
One thing I am envious of women about is that they have intrinsic custody of the fetus inside of them.

An element of extreme anxiety and vulnerability for some guys is not knowing whether the child is ours, wondering if she will keep it, wondering if we will get to meet it, etc.

There doesn't seem to be a word for how, say, a woman can get pregnant off a condom of yours she found in the trash after you left, and then, bam, she owns you, body and soul. It is a crime that is something like combined and IP theft.

Even in our world, in terms of sex, the woman has the man completely at her mercy; the man can be accused of rape, and even documented consent doesn't necessarily mean anything. This is especially useful as an emergency exit if she is caught in an affair or other sexual indiscretion.

Conversely, if pregnancy results, the woman truly owns the man. She may decide to never tell him, and he has no sixth sense telling him he conceived a child with someone somewhere. She may decide to terminate the child. She may decide to keep the child and enter or stay in a relationship with him. She may decide to keep the child and instead extract child support from him.

I'm aware this post likely sounds incredibly misogynistic and that's not my point at all, I am not railing against it.

The biggest role reversal would probably be one in which men have ownership of their spooge like a woman has ownership of her body or like a corporation has ownership of its IP: rr left areas might allow men to have the state forcibly terminate pregnancies they change their mind about (just as the father does not get a say in our world the mother would not get a say in the life of the baby) their world, and in rr con areas the state may only do so in extreme situations (rape, theft, etc). The woman likely can terminate the child at any point just like in a pro choice area, not sure.

>>7030672
Tons and TONS of arguments in gfd/rr land had nothing to do with outsiders, but irreconcilable differences in viewpoint. Just consider, for example, the subtle distinction between gfd and rr; tradcon can be gfd but is essentially the opposite of rr.

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>>7033265
Oh boy, here we go again.

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>>7030326
While I like the idea of boys and girls being physically the same, you're kidding yourself if you don't realize how insanely hawt a setting where, say, even shy virgin girls are willing and eager to have sex like shy virgin boys typically are irl. Its like the opposite of a rape fetish (not the same as a female on male rape fetish although may have similarities), where its a no brainer that the woman consents.

She may however have VERY exacting expectations and become angry or even hateful if denied sexual pleasure. To be looked on by a girl with ravenous, hungry intent, and surprised to find out she's holding onto you and not letting you go, is very exciting, as is the idea or reality of a girl with an entitlement mentality in sex.

I have no opinion of reversed dimorphism or roles outside direct sex values even though in my fictional settings (RPGs etc) I almost always have everything be matriarchies, but people are still people as we know them. Unless you have a VERY rich wife you probably still would have to work in a setting like that anyway.

>>7026493
There's more female initiated rape than people think, and occasionally even violent female rape, even though probably 1% is a stretch.

But I think a HUGE portion of male initiated rape stems from the fact that we have a weird fuckin slinky doohicky on us and it demands attention, gets in the way, etc. I think men and women are more similar than most people think, but if women had penises they'd probably rape, and if men had different instincts we'd probably rape too.

Its just an obvious protruding bit of anatomy with an obvious use. Only some rape is motivated by a desire for sexual gratification, and much of it is sadism oriented, power oriented, vengeance, anger or hatred oriented. All those would still be present even if we didn't think about sexual gratification assertively, IMO.

>>7033265
>they have intrinsic custody of the fetus inside of them.
Only for a portion of a pregnancy. In a country that allows any abortion at all.

Since historically pregnancy was likely to result from rape, pregnancy has usually been terrifying to the woman too.

Even with abortion technically available, other people often harass and shame the woman into not getting one. And what happens if something happens to the baby during or just after birth? Your severely handicapped baby is now your responsibility because you don't have jurisdiction over it once it exits your uterus. I don't envy that.

I don't disagree with you though. I'm very careful not to get into a position where a woman can babytrap me.

The whole thing is shitty all around. I vote to put sterilization drugs in the water supply.

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>>7026404
While I like tall female protagonists that are deceptively strong, physical and psychological domination strike me as being totally different in effect.

A boy being in danger of being raped by a grown woman is pretty hawt but its also completely different from a grown man being psychologically compelled by a flimsy looking girl. They strike me as different kinks.

I find it fascinating to COMBINE the two, though. Not even for sexual elements alone, but sociological ones as well. In a fantasy setting, how far does chivalry apply? To giants and dragonesses? Should a wizard apprentice still do manual labor on behalf of a bad ass lady knight?

Most my RPG settings tend to be matriarchies simply because both rules are in play -- the vast majority of men would be completely torn up inside to harm a woman or fail to protect and serve their woman, but females are usually fully competent equals to males. They are perceived to be deserving of protection and deference, though, so there are submissive women.

>>7023223
Why are you wearing a skirt around machinery? That's retarded. Enjoy getting eaten by gears.

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>>7033308
>Only for a portion of a pregnancy. In a country that allows any abortion at all.

THAT part is referring to the rules of nature. Reproduction is totally alien to the other sex. A man can fuck, and just wander off. He can even, intentionally or unintentionally, make a woman pregnant without anyone but her ever knowing. That's pretty bizarre from the female perspective. I find myself leaning on the software analogy because I honestly can't think of much analogy.

A woman can fuck, and just wander off, but she has control of the fetus. The woman always has full custody of the fetus, because it is literally inside her. That's pretty intense. But I mean, a pregnant woman knows fully well where the baby is.

The man is more in the position of the way a momma bird is with her eggs, and so from that perspective, one can see the benefit of physically owning (for better or for worse) your reproduction.

Also, quite reasonably it was, and sometimes is, terrifying for the woman, but the fact that she was and sometimes is expected to take responsibility for the baby just furthers my point, imo. It is way, way harder for a woman to pretend she has no responsibility or connection for the child than the man, so for the bulk of humanity it is a mixed blessing.

>I vote to put sterilization drugs in the water supply.

Evidently most people in Los Angeles would agree with you.

Anyway, if I have a point, its that there's no real way to do a complete flipping of gender roles with human reproductive biology except with extremely strange and draconian laws.

As far as the pic, fantasy matriarchies usually don't seem to involve leveraging gender roles except in terms of men being in subordinate positions, but say the drow or naga don't seem to be opposite day in terms of gender role.

>>7026752
>Boys hanging out and doing makeup together
>Boys trying to dress in ways to accentuate their butts and dicks
>wew
They wouldn't be dressing to accentuate their dicks-girls don't dress to accentuate their vaginas, do they?

Sexy clothing is about showing off secondary sexual characteristics. Legs, thighs, ass... lots of women are into these things above all else.

Cute boys in skirts getting felt up by pervy women tho

>>7033310
stop posting in my thread, loser

>>7033310
rest of the comic fuckin where

>>7033375
nevermind found it

http://g.e-hentai.org/g/935427/16e62bf3f8/

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>>7026210
My waifu is pretty much all reversed roles, she's a pirate queen.

>>7033376
well that was boring

>>7033292
Instantly reminded me of
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mxbHk8EcFA

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>tfw you're eating dinner with your bf and his parents and he asks ''mommy can you pass the salt'' and you both reach for it

>>7032014

So you're saying the class of people most privileged by being protected from dying, war, and dangerous hunting... isn't equal or dominant?

>>7033745
earth #992 is great but it doesn't specify that you'll be changed to fit in to the world like it does with earth #635.is it SUPPOSED to? if so, that's my choice.

>>7033873
god dammit... I needed those sides

>>7033300
>There's more female initiated rape than people think

[citation needed]

>even violent female rape

Now you're not even trying.

>>7034144
CDC reports on sexual assault claim somewhere between 6-8% of known perpetrators are female, but have speculated that the number could be higher, since men are far less likely to report sexual assault than women.

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>>7034144
>>7034154

>>7034242
Where the hell does he say that he's gay in any of that? Or was this shopped?

>>7034242
>writer tells how his sister constantly rapes him
>journalist writes answer about coming out as gay
What in the unholy fuck did I just read?

>>7034242
The FUCK?

>>7034448
It's an edit. Either that or the journalist was literally retarded.

>>7034292
it's an edit and a joke
the joke being that if he doesn't want to fuck his sister he's obviously a faggot

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>>7026459
I do not want to go to gender topics with this post but here is the idea.

The main thing about us humans, regardless of gender is that all of us have been babies at some part of our lives. We all experienced the feeling of being helpless and vulnerable, however we experienced that without being afraid because we had our parents tend to our needs. We didn't need to protect ourselves from others, not just physically but also emotionally, it was okay to be vulnerable, it was okay to show our emotions, it was okay to cry, it was okay to be weak because we were simply babies. Granted we barely knew what was going on around us but that feeling was there.

Fast forward 10-30 years and the world is totally different but we all still secretly crave that feeling of safety. Men are free from the burden of child bearing so they have a lot more time to serve society. Like it or not men are far less valuable to society than women, so men are the ones that do the taxing, hard and dangerous jobs, men are the miners, soldiers etc. that die probably the most. So society of course tends to put the man's strengths to the pedestal to hide/compensate for the fact that at the end of the day men are expendable meat.

Men, just like women, also naturally crave this feeling of safety, being vulnerable, being weak, being open, and yet have all that be ok, and be safe and protected. The fantasy of reversing gender roles, grant men this wish, that is why men find this so desirable. A fantasy where they are no longer defined by their jobs/accomplishments, they are defined by who they are, they no longer have to pursue women, they are pursued instead (which can have its own problems of course). However as a bonus men do not have to instinctively worry and being constantly on the lookout for becoming pregnant, which is the main reason women are so careful with relationships.

>>7026716
I was in the kind of relationship
that and an abusive mother is what got me into this fetish

trust me it is not what you want

>>7034448
FUCK!

>>7020115

you should hang around in some of the seedier parts of cities, you'll find exactly what you're looking for. especially in england, slag culture is real man.

>>7033873
I love newgrounds.

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>>7033745
They're all grrrrrrrrrrreat but #635 and #992 are amazing.

>>7020875
>>7020878
Couldn't really wank to it but that was adorable. A little depressing to see how quickly they become addicted to it, though.

>>7035009
That's just the one gal. She has a ton of stamina. The others certainly have a healthy interest, but don't seem addicted per say.
I'd say his attitude is more interesting than the masturbatory aspect. It's a nice way to think about things.

>>7035015
True. But I found it a bit disturbing how addicted she is. Then again, I can't stand addictions, so it's just
>muh opinion

The manga is good for a laugh and the girls are adorable.
Blushing, shy girls are adorable. Especially the delinquents in the second book.

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>>7035019
I personally love addictions. Having grown up with addicts of all sorts, it's absolutely fun (And fucking MEAN) to pick on them. A lucid, knowing addict is a strange creature, worthy of observation.
One that plans their life around the addiction, like the girl getting a job for it, is worthy of praise. For that to be the only end goal that drives one to stabilize their life and plan ahead.
That being said, having grown up with them I've seen the worst cases too. Aversion is more than understandable.

My favorite of the girls was the quick one though. That face of embarrassment from the kissGASM. Like whoa.

>>7035034
I understand your point.
I just can't stand addictions because I never saw it turning into anything constructive. Even the girl from the manga who get a part time job only does it just to get fucked. Maybe it's because I'm pessimistic, I'm always afraid of it turning to worst. Failing at school, getting kicked out of school...
I saw it happening once in real life, it was heart-breaking.

And yes, she's cute, but I really like the delinquents. Acting and tough while having strawberries panties and getting mad because they didn't get kissed, it was so damn adorable.

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>>7035034
Gotta admit the rape one is hilarious too. too bad it doesn't take place in the same bizarro world.

>>7035041
I've seen both sides. The funny thing is that the constructive few do very well to hide it, so most can't tell. It's popular for celebrities.
But I'm quite a nerd on the subject and made a habit of looking for signs in everyone. Made quite a few acquaintances and a few friends that way. Perhaps saved some.
Loss is the majority though, yeah. It's kind of dark, but I find even failure to it beautiful.

Regardless, I want to see more of the world overall. More characters, back stories, parallels to real world, drama with the main gal feeling cheated on.
Maybe even some negative shit like slut shaming and whatnot, but only if it doesn't ruin it. The protagonist's pessimistic attitude could probably swing it very well.

>>7035071
I don't mind it in porn books, but in real life or movies, it's just sad. I blame Requiem For A Dream. It killed that fetish before I could develop it.

And yeah, some slut shaming would be fun, most of the girls are already calling him a bitch, I want to know how gigolos are treated in that world.
And damn, the art style is totally amateur but the girls are cute. Except in the bath, they look like predators.

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>>7035077
Sometimes simple, rough art styles are better for expression. This face just wouldn't be nearly as good with strong detail.
The delinquents remind me of Houkago Play, in a way.

>>7034144
Female on male rape is not considered rape but instead 'made to penetrate' (thanks to feminist bigot Mary Koss) but when you compare the numbers of 'made to penetrate' to rape they are similar.

>>7035080
no it's considered rape by anyone with sanity

>>7035090
Sanity is a legal term which states that one has a sound understanding to hold them responsible for. So in that sense, yeah.

>>7035079
Houkago Play? That rings a bell. I'll have to check it later.

>>7035080
Wrong. Blackmail rape is still rape.

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>>7035103
It's cute. Totally not on topic to the thread, but fitting sort of.

>>7035090
>>7035103
I agree with you that it should be considered rape. What I'm saying is that the number of female-on-male rapes only seem smaller due to 'made to penetrate' being considered a seperate crime by the law.

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I love this fetish because it doesn't necessarily involve all that ntr that regular femdom does. I'd like to have girls having more open sexual approaches, and even hinting it more. My fiancee did that and i started to doubt reality.

This may sound weird but I like to think of a world where women are born as this type of pet/slave to men but also run the country where this happens in.

How this happens is that woman live this life where they are treats like pets. Gives them pet food and let then sleep in a pet bed. Pets still have rights and it's women that write the rights that men have to fallow for their female pets. Well men can mostly choose how they want to raise their pets it is encouraged to allow their girls to go to what is a type of pet daycare/park that kind of acts like a school were woman can learn reading and writing, math philosophy, art. All of the book smart stuff.

Men are allowed to buy sell and trade woman and girls with each other but they can also buy and sell women and girls to a government ran organization. This organization can also take abused pets away from their masters. Well the organization tries it best to adapt out pets to men that want them. Well under this organization's control/ownership woman can choose to retire themselves from being pets and take a government job like law maker. from Law maker they can become prime mister or president.

It possible to make it that men almost never see their leaders so they could never know that the pets woman they house and feed actually run the country.

>>7035116
Ha, that one. The first girl was awesome. Totally looked like Slenderwoman with these loooong legs.

>>7020115
I'm not sure I understand. You want assertive women like in Layer of White or something?

>>7020890
>teacher get hooked
>blow all her money
>lives on bread and tea
That's sad but hilarious.

>>7035261
>bead and tea is what is "cheap living for her"

>tfw

Wow an Ideal world.
Thanks OP

>>7033745
Maaan, sign me the fuck up for #635

>>7033745
Sign me up for ALL OF THEM.

>>7020875
>>7020878
>>7020882
>>7020890
>>7020893
This is the best thing that has been posted on /d/ this year.

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>>7037029

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>>7037030

>>7037029
>>7037030
>>7037031
>raping a prisoner
That chick has balls.

>>7033745
>Having to choose between 635 and 992
Holy fucking shit help

>>7020115
>women are the ones who tend to have freaky/er fetishes

Women already have the freakier fetishes, trust me /d/ is casual compared to what I've seen on tumblr

>>7034088
If women are protected from dying because they're valuable property, this doesn't mean they're dominant. Is it a privilege to be an object forced to stay in the home, protected from scary things but never experiencing freedom?

>>7037436
Which one is better living a long life being forced to stay at home or potentially dying in war, work accidents? Some might disagree but I would say being alive clearly outweighs death.

>>7037287
The majority of female fetishes just involved them having humiliated in some way, phyiscally or emotionally. To varying degrees from just minor abuse to outright gory violence. Seriously there isn't a big variance about it.

>>7037436
Privileged, yes, though not necessarily dominant.

>>7020
She's a hoe and was warned

I knew about all of this

The government planned this

>>7037955
That's some grudge you have here.

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>>7020320
>>7022221
Ever heard of slut shaming?
Its pretty rampant
Try and ask any board on this site about what they think of a girl who has had a lot of sexual partners vs a man who has done the same and find out yourself

>>7038007
Ever heard of virgin shaming?
It's even more rampant.

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>>7038009
Havent heard about it the term itself but i have heard about men who are laughed at for being virgins
I dont believe its more rampant

>>7038024
I take it you're not a virgin.

>>7038024
>>7038009
>>7038007
In fact as a man you are also shamed if you are not married or divorced after a certain age. For a woman you don't get that because it is automatically assumed that a shit marriage is always the husband's fault.

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>>7038047
Slutshaming is not abot marriage, but the number of partners one have

>>7038057
*have had i meant

>>7038047
Not really. There are times where it's assumed to be the wife's fault. But there's almost always drugs involved.

And on the anecdotal side, I've never been shamed for being a virgin. It just doesn't matter really. As long as you're not a pent up, awkward, and annoying dork.

>>7038007
sure, but it's not just mindless prejudice. there's an obvious biological reason for it. a woman always knows that a child is hers. a man doesn't, and doesn't want to waste resources on a child that isn't related to him. plus increasing partner count has been shown to lead to weaker pair bonding in women but not in men. onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1741-3737.2003.00444.x/abstract

complaining about slut shaming is like complaining that people are grossed out by someone covered in festering sores, it's a deeply rooted biological aversion that exists for very good reasons

>>7038086
I want to repost this on a SJW tumblr and see the tears.

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>>7038086
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/08/the-right-s-bogus-virgin-bride-myth.html

>As Wolfinger himself explained in an alarmingly brief parenthetical, the NSFG “doesn’t have full data on men’s premarital sexual behavior, and in any event they recall their own marital histories less reliably than do women.”
Great source

And even if it was true you could just as well go around being afraid of men and have police destrictions on them
Why?
Men commit more crimes

>>7038168
>police destrictions

>>7038183
Restrictions
Lol sorry

>>7038189
I though you meant to wrote "destructions" and I was really confused.
>have police destructions on men

>>7038152
You don't even have to repost it on tumblr, they're already here: >>7038168

>>7038168
>And even if it was true you could just as well go around being afraid of men and have police destrictions on them

yes, and people do. if a couple of strange men were walking towards you at night, you'd be more wary than if it were a group of women. police are more likely to profile men for acting suspicious, because they commit more crimes. and no one has a problem with that. but for some reason women take it really personally when men don't want to date sluts.