/gfd/ and /rr/ general

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I'm reposting all that shit people like to see in the beginning of threads. Not that it matters when the shitposting inevitably starts.
>DON'T make all caps or complaining posts about it, this just provokes more while doing nothing, as much as that hurts your feelings, it's true.
>DON'T fall for the bait, even if you have a raging opposition to the poster's politics, left OR right, alt or not, it's still off topic to respond, especially when you just want to jerk your own opposition
>DON'T post with out a picture UNLESS you are putting down good textual on-topic contribution
>DO start dumping material - 10+ pictures is a good start
>DO start trying to revive a thread topic or genre that fits in the thread, even if the topic concedes to one side of the argument, e.g. conservative bread winner/gun owning waifus, or whatever goes for the alternative.
>DO ignore and report b8 and shitposters
>DO start asking ON-TOPIC questions in the thread for people to answer

tl;dr don't take the bait. Qts don't like that.

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Animated film:
>Garden of Words

Live Action:
>Angel-A
>Tramps like Us (Drama version)

Anime/Manga:
>Witch Craft Works
>Freezing
>Madan no Ou to Vanadis
>Morobito: Guardian of the Spirit
>Monster Musume no Iru Ichijou
>Soredemo Sekai wa Utsukushii (The world is still beautiful)
>Akame ga Kill*
>Infinite Stratos
>Accel World*
>The Pet Girl of Sakurasou*
>Danna ga Nani o Itteiru ka Wakaranai Ken
>Tasogare otome x Amnesia
>Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun
>Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun
>Amagami*
>Oji-san to Marshmallow
>Claymore
>Mizutama Honey Boy
>FLCL
>Rosario + Vampire
>Photon: The Idiot Adventures

Manga/Light Novel:
>Unbalance x Unbalance
>Otoyomegatari
>Sensei Lock-on
>Arakawa under the bridge
>Natsuyuki Rendezvous
>Otomen
>Kimi wa Peto/Tramps like us
>Hokago play
>Game Over
>Takane no Hana Nara Ochitekoi!!
>Tsugumomo
>Ore x Yome
>Altina the Sword Princess
>Ane no Onaka o Fukuramaseru wa Boku
>Utsuro no Hako to Zero no Maria
>Waltraute-san no Konkatsu Jijou
>Jomungand
>Arms peddler
>Girls of the Wilds
>Green Boy
>Onihime VS
>The Legend of Maian
>Puppy Lovers
>Ookii Onnanoko wa Suki Desu ka?


Visual Novels
>Junipers Knot*
>Hustle Cat (Mason route)

*/gfd/ is not the main focus

>Hentai list
http://pastebin.com/jVY1dAeb (embed)

>Doujin list
http://pastebin.com/5w7qgrM6 (embed)


Feel free to add recommendations

GFD Story List:

Taiyakisoba:

The Dragon's Heart:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/6475483

Absorption:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/5343203/chapters/12337505

The Vixen:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/5202542/chapters/11990246

Under the Falcon's Wing:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/4653132/chapters/10613943

The Leprechaun's Charms:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/3645492

The Sentimental Succubus:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/3241379/chapters/7061726

A Taste for Christmas Cake:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/3145253/chapters/6822353

Takeover:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/2779652/chapters/6235439

Wings of Desire:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/2760794

In Her Argent Embrace:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/2606318/chapters/5806514

Bringing the Heat:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/2454164/chapters/5439332

Love-Love Umbrella:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/2219088

SifSub:

Until you are:
http://pastebin.com/KbnXtAbp

My manager is my mistress
http://pastebin.com/TJAvFqgf

I don't bite
http://pastebin.com/hWmZEyjb

Smolbrit:

Minotaur's Labyrinth:
http://pastebin.com/b7dURJkY

The Bear and the Wolf Cub
http://pastebin.com/4PQW6E5B

Others:

Pretty Human (by Sea Foam):
http://seafoam.pbworks.com/w/page/77839289/Pretty%20Human

Love You to Bits! (By EnielWings):
http://enielwings.deviantart.com/art/Love-You-to-Bits-Moge-ko-x-Male-Reader-601305872

Escape from the Bermuda Triangle
http://archiveofourown.org/works/5737978/chapters/13222708
Assassin (by DAGDAMMIT)
http://pastebin.com/yhxfhU8T

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>>6819999
>>Garden of Words
Didn't know virus comix got an anime
Also nice quads

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Fun fact: If you post the image from >>6820003 on /jp/'s monstergirl thread, they will devolve into shitposting for hours.

>mfw browsing fetlife with this member filter thing
>go trough all the groups in my area looking for a dominant woman under 23 who isn't a findomme or in a relationship
>mfw there is actually none

>>6820012
Why?

Post cuddling where the girl is smaller but still takes charge/is the big spoon

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>>6820031
Monsterboys are their biggest trigger.

Does anyone have any tricks or tips for when the girl is about a foot and a half shorter than the guy for making this kind of stuff work?

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>>6820056
It's a relationship you don't need "tips or tricks" this isn't some video game just go with the flow or with whatever feels right and you'll be peachy keen

>>6820020
is this some kind of universal answer now? it got it wrong on many levels imho.
>>6820014
first of all dominant people don't usually need internet to hook up as they are assertive and able to pick up on who ever they please.
there isn't only lack of normal dominant women in the internet but lack of normal dominant men as well. if you would ever payed any attention to discussions on bdsm sites you would recognize that men presenting themselves as dominant have usually personality problems and complete lack of information about bdsm.
just to add some insight they usually go along the lines "I am looking to woman who wants to be humiliated", "I am looking for little bitch to show her her place" and so on... pretty much equivalent of your average findom with the exception that guy doesn't want money but free fuck.

second issue is that if they ever chose to use some internet service to hook up they are overwhelmed with thirsty pseudo subs asking them to fulfill their fantasies completely ignoring fact that it's not really submissive behavior when you ask someone to act in certain ways.
also submissive people have this one huge issue with being clingy. you show them some affection and you aren't going to get rid of them. it's annoying when you end up with someone hanging on your neck 24/7 waiting for you to hold their hands and entertain them. so ye dominant people usually get feed up really quick and quit for good.

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>>6820052

But monsterboys need love just like monstergirls.

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>>6820086
The only thing wrong with that picture is that the hellhound isn't placing that collar on me.

>>6820093
good man

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Does anyone have any stories with monstergirl hellhounds?

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>>6820100
You mean ones that aren't either creepy incest or futa? Because that's all there is.

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>>6820103
Really? Well I guess I'll take anything how creepy can the incest one be?

>>6820103
>Because that's all there is.
Why do you lie?

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>>6820109
>how creepy can the incest one be?
"Father" figure specifically adopts young hellhounds from an orphanage to fuck them later.
>>6820112
Allow me to rephrase. The incest and the futa are the only ones I've come across.

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>>6820115
Well that's rather dissapointing
Oh hwell

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>>6820115

>"Father" figure specifically adopts young hellhounds from an orphanage to fuck them later.

Pretty sure that's taking advantage of a minor.

anyone has any vampire on human gfd? tfw she likes you enough not to kill you yet still treats you like a cattle.

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>>6819991
Is it less toxic now?

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>>6820002
I'm so sorry.

>>6819991
>gfd and rr thread
>cuddling edition

I needed this in my life so much

>>6820133
That sounds like something out of a magical realm thread on /tg/. In fact, in pretty sure I've read something about a scenario where there was a vampire noblewoman who treated her entire serfdom that way.

>>6820002
Sauce

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>>6820231
I got you, senpai. http://exhentai.org/g/762680/b69ac74276/

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>>6820190

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>>6820033

>>6820316
Cuuute, especially the hooked around leg

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>>6820255
Anon why you do dis?

>>6820432
https://hitomi.la/galleries/763391.html

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>>6820447
Thank you anon

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>>6820447
GODAMMIT ANON I DON'T SPEAK THIS LANGUAGE

>>6820473
just search for it in english idiot, i'm sorry that i got the first link

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>>6820006
Has anyone tried this? How well did it go?

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>>6820485
Is fine anon I forgive you,you git
(Just trynna see how salty I can get you mang)

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>>6820226
I'm pretty sure I've read something about jews treating all of humanity that way.

>>6820056
Don't think of it as a power struggle and it wont matter who's bigger.

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>>6820056
Don't be a cunt.

>>6820490
On phone with terrible upload speed so forgive my lacking of pic.

The supplements do work, and the green tea with spearmint made me feel better in general.
I was already a veggie so I don't have data to give on that.

I'd get a supplement that includes zinc in it instead of a dedicated tablet if I were you, as lot of vision support gels have it.

>>6820568
How long have ya been doing it? How long until you noticed it was workin'?

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>>6820006
>tfw already have soft, clear skin & some natural cuteboy aesthetics
N-now i just need a dominant /gfd/ gf ;-; I swear, most chicks wouldn't even date me because I'm short and I look young for someone who's 20.

>>6820585
man don't give up. You've already got the hardest part done man.

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H-hi everyone I just want a cute girl to hug me from behind and stroke my hair after a day of work

Have I come to the right place?

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>>6820620
Are you also autistic? If you, yes!

>>6820622
Well I don't really like anime but I exclusively jack off to hentai

Does that count?

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>>6820633
maybe, let's give you the test.
Do you expect a relationship to fall into your lap? Do you go on /R9K/?
What hentai do you jerk off to?
have you really done anything to try and achieve your interpersonal goals?

>>6820648
No I expect to have to at least get out there but I wouldn't go on tinder to meet people

I do go on r9k, that's how I found this threada

Mostly incest and rape. Don't have names because I just click on videos until I settle for one and wank.

I have and nothing ever seems to go right

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>>6820649
>videos
Autistic fore sure, welcome brother!

>>6820652
I like to hear the noises instead of using my imaginations.

T-thanks tho. I just want a nurturing gentle gf

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>>6820658
Well step one is to stop going to the /R9K/ general, they are trash there.

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>>6820658
>>6820663
And also,please stop stutter posting that shit makes you look even more autistic
And also,if you want your opinion to matter,post a pic along with yout text post

>>6820671
If he just got into this he prolly doesn't have any pics. Not exactly a thing ya just run into.

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>>6820678
Look at me, forgetting the pic.

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>>6820671
d-did someone say s-stutter posting!?

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>>6820663
Done

>>6820671
I got so used to it anon

I have this one from the thread I was at. They were discussing tall gfs.

>>6820663
/r9k/ stopped doing /gfd+rr/ generals long ago.

>>6820712
Good, good.

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>>6820712
And
>tfw bf calls you mommy
threads get deleted there.

[spoiler]>tfw bf calls you mommy[/spoiler]

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>>6819991
Does /gfd/ and /rr/ have an approved music playlist?
or any /gfd/core music reccomendations?
I've got some in mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ5_QxwFjNI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiVSMp2MOL0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ELCZqPgsUc

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>>6820730
I listen to reaaaaalllly fucking shitty shit

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>>6820573
I've been on it for well over 3 months if not moar. It started working on day 2 or so. That is, my orgasms felt slightly better and I could jerk it more. Both of which are good.

I haven't been as good with my tea consumption, though.

Amazon Prime should get you with the supplements in 2 days.

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>>6820620
Bad anon.
If you a sub, you must want to do everything you can to please your dom and to earn her love. You don't want things to fall into your lap.

>>6820763
Well my issue is that I can't really run cuz my legs don't work right, so do you think just the diet would still be good?

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>>6820764
>You're only a sub if you fit my personal kinks and ideals! Literally no deviation from it!

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>>6820774
>you're only a /gfd/ sub if you understand that it's not really bout you; it's about her.

>>6820774
but he is right. if you go on and say that you are interested in this but not in that and you will never do that it's not submissive at all.
you can still have some hard limits but soft ones are to be explored and eventually completely removed.

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>>6820778
NO ARGUING THIS THREAD!!!

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>>6820778
>What?
>Mutual love and respect?
>Hahaha fuck that shit she's literally EVERYTHING in this relationship!
>If she wants to be the aggressor and is interested in your please that's not /gfd/ and you're not a sub!!
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98AJUj-qxHI

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>>6820782
You're straw-manning me brother, I never said that. A relationship of this nature is female led and focused. It's not like that's a bad thing, since it's what both parties want.

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All you idiots need to remember that /gfd/ and /rr/ do not overlap perfectly. /gfd/ is female focused, /rr/ is male focused. Both have dominant females.

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>>6820787
What, as opposed to female led and focused male"dom" relationships?

I mean 'cause if you're right that'd be wonderful, I could finally give up the last dregs of hope of a relationship where I actually meant just as much, instead of being being nothing but the provider, the ensurer and the pedestal to someone else's happiness

>>6820795
alpha male being worshiped by his gf who thinks she can't do better than that. pretty much the same as femdom one.

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>>6820498
>git
pl?
>>6820473
>non parlare italiano

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>>6820794
>good point

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>>6820801
No my friend I do not speak Italian

>>6820801
>>6820473
>mfw I'm actually Italian
I thought I was the only one ;_;

>>6820884
You....... thought you were the only Italian?

>>6820887
I thought i was the only italian into gfd you dork

>>6820778
But that's untrue. The fetish exists for the enjoyment of the submissive. That's why Doms don't actually force the sub to do anything they don't want to do or would inflict actual pain; it's about creating an illusion of control in the dom while maintaining the power of the sub. This is why subs want to submit in their own specific ways, which they've fantasized, but not others.

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>>6820897
>This is why subs want to submit in their own specific ways, which they've fantasized, but not others.
I don't agree. I would never pay a visit to pro domme because of this.
I want lose all the control over situation (apart from few hard limits I have) and just enjoy my partner having her way with me.
outlining my own fantasy beforehand and then getting exactly what I have told to my partner would feel really strange, there is no thrill to it.
in my opinion only once you are willing to give up all the control and trust your partner you can call yourself true submissive.
it doesn't matter if she would tie and pegg me, whip me, force me to worship her feet or just asked me to have gentle vanilla sex with her...
what matters to me is that I have no control over the situation and that's the biggest turn on for me.

>>6820897
>>6820913
I think it varies from person to person, you asswipes

>>6820916
ofc it varies. either you are submissive or just have fetish that puts you into seemingly submissive position while the truth is that you are still in control.

>>6820884
I'm german, gfd brings the world together

>>6820884
>>6820920
>>6820896

Islam needs to be beaten. Then the /gfd/ when it's time to relax.

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>>6820917
Don't forget the people who think that wanting a 'mommy' to cater to their every need is submissive or role reversal, when it's the most traditional female gender role in existence

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>>6820778
>>6820780
Bullshit. We don't say that kind of thing to women in vanilla relationships, and /gfd/ is basically a vanilla relationship with the sexes reversed. Maybe you're misinformed; /gfd/ isn't BDSM or "female supremacy" or anything else that implies the relationship and the guy exist only to serve the woman's desires.

If I wanted to put a woman on a pedestal, I'd enter the vanilla dating scene.

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>>6820764
>earn her love
A true role reversal would have *her* working to earn *his* love.

>>6820948
Being a woman's "daddy" is the most traditional male gender role in existence, but no one seems to have a problem if a submissive woman wants that from her dominant male partner.

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>>6820948

I never got the Momdom thing. It could be I still live with my parents (economy sucks but I do have a part time job at least) and my mother can be a nag at times. I get that she means well but Christ she comes off wrong a lot.

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>tfw 6'7
>can never be the little spoon
>will never be hugged by a taller qt and have her boobs in my face
>will never be teased about my short height
>expected to be the dominant one in bed

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>>6820981
That's because daddy doms aren't pretending that they're going against gender roles. And the father traditionally takes a dominant role while the mother takes a submissive one.

>>6820986
Well, obviously guys into Momdom aren't fantasizing about a mom who annoys them. Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if one of the reasons they're into Momdom is that their own mother was a bitch to them and they want to get a more positive motherly experience. That's probably part of it for me. I really don't like my real mother, but I find myself getting into maternal femdom every now and then, although I wouldn't say it's my primary interest.

>>6820997

I read a few times on here that they never had a mom either. There's probably some armchair psychology involved in all that so take it as you will.

>>6820994
>That's because daddy doms aren't pretending that they're going against gender roles.
Well, sure, because they're *not* going against gender roles. But when you reverse the sexes, you *are* going against gender roles. You're not just pretending to.

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>>6821004
>A woman doing motherly things is going against gender roles
Nope.

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>>6821007
>A woman doing motherly things for a sexual partner is going against gender roles
Yes.
But lets stop this, and instead talk about our desire to have a person in our life who truly believes we deserve to exist for reasons other than "You are my genetic offspring".

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>>6821009
Yes, having a woman cook, clean and provide emotional support for you is totally going against gender roles. You are definitely a submissive and not just an average dominant male who wants tendies

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>>6820920
German is the hottest language for femdom. I've wanked loads of times to german femdom POV porn without knowing a word of the language, getting off only on the domme's voice.

>>6820884
I'm not Italian anon the only reason I said "no I do not speak Italian" is because I have a loose grip of the languages buy I still hope you find a nice Italian lady to be big spoon

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>>6821023
when it comes to language I have this one huge issue. I only know how to talk about sex in english.
once I was sexting with girl from my own country in my native language and I was fucking awful since I had no idea which words to use.
nazi mommy thread?

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Anyone had any luck on collarspace? It's more bdsm oriented but there's the rare gfd sighting

>>6821018

Well, "against" and "for" are absolutely bad prepositions to use for describing this. Mother isn't an identical gender role as breeding factory (though the roles are historically linked), but it's pretty tough to say what constitutes gender reversal. Reversal depends on how you set up the sets in the first place.

I know of no sex action that is inherently submissive or dominating. Like, you can dominantly give someone oral sex or submissive tie the up

>>6820990
I know anon...
I know...

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>>6820897
This is why so many of you are single. If you expect a woman to do all the work in a relationship, you give up some autonomy in exchange and mold to her desires. You don't get to just sit there on your ass doing nothing and contributing nothing. This is 'not being a shitty human being and shitty boyfriend' 101, guys.

>>6820917
Exactly this. There's nothing wrong with having submissive-themed fetishes without actually wanting to submit in a relationship, just be honest about it and don't try to deceive people.

>>6820990
Nobody's too big to be the little spoon, and you can get your face hugged into boobs pretty well while lying down or sitting while she stands. My qt is 6'5 and it doesn't cause any problems apart from the fact that he is waaayyyy too tall to lead around on a normal-length leash.

>>6821062
I wouldn't recommend trying collarspace, genuine dominant women usually don't last very long on there because we are subjected to an unbelievable rate of spam and sexual harassment (I was getting 15-20 messages a day and trust me, every single one of them was disgusting and vile). So what you're left with is (a) scammers or (b) hardened older women who have a very fixed view of what a man's place is and aren't likely to be into gentler kink stuff

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>>6821141
Look, I'm not making it a gendered thing. Subs, be it male female or otherwise, are the ones who predominately pursue the fantasy. Most Doms were either previously subs -and thus can empathize with being the sub - or are only dominant at the behest of the submissive party. People engage in submissive and masochistic fantasies primarily to forget the stressful "higher level" identity by momentarily replacing it with an immediate, lower level self- those who fantasize about long-lasting altercations or relationships (slavery, ect.) are doing so to prolong this effect. This is part of the reason that there are higher levels of masochists in high positions of authority, in high stress jobs, and from well educated backgrounds: they feel a higher level of stress and responsibility in their day-to-day lives from which they want to forget.
Submissives have their own fantasies of submission that they want acted out - certain insults, punishments, and pains. However, they take great lengths to ensure that no real pain is produced. The Dom thus plays a balancing act between giving the sub the illusion of powerlessness as per their fantasy, but not actually harming them or breaking the terms of said fantasy. Other anons speak of "hard lines" they will not cross. Hired doms often speak of being given scripts of insults, and situations in which subs get upset when the scripts are not strictly followed. This theory I've been entertaining is from Masochism and the Self by Roy Baumeister.
I'm not being a "shitty human being", I'm being realistic. Thanks for the insult, though.

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>>6821141
>(b)
Those sound like the women my aunty warns me I could gotten involved with because I was far too trusting and unwilling to say no in the beginning.

>>6821141
you forgot about (c) findom

>>6821212
That falls under "scammers".

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>>6821141
I've been browsing the site for a few days now and noticed both of those things. Most of the older women there just seem to want a slave and others are either fake or financial dommes. Still might use it out of loneliness and false hope though

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Where the flat chested dom girls at? Another question, how easy do you think it would be to convert a standard vanilla girl to the church of GFD? I'm thinking I may have better luck with that than finding a dom that's already into it

>>6821062
Haven't seen anyone who wasn't a findomme on there.

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>>6821234
she will either like the concept and will give it a shot or you will get her really out of the balance.
just do not force her into it, mention it or perhaps include some gfd component into your vanilla sex so she can associate it with pleasure.

>>6821234
This just made me think of some ladies holding up signs saying things like, "a man's place is in your lap" and "if says he's switch, you gotta make him your bitch".

>>6821257
such a pity that those ladies exists only in captioned images.

>>6821249
Good point, I really think it would be nice to meet a really sweet innocent girl and help her discover her sexuality and fulfill fantasies she didn't know she had.
>tfw a girl will never make you paint her toenails for her as payment for letting you massage/play with her feet

>>6821273
well I still live in the illusion that women don't really care for the porn and thus had little to no opportunity to fully explore their sexual desires. it took me 10 years of masturbation and lots of porn to realize that vanilla is not good enough for me.

>>6821229
Source?

>>6821278
Honestly, part of the whole femsub majority problem may just be from the fact that women aren't exposed to subs, or at least the right kind of sub, so they just assume "lol I'm a grill I must like being chocked and calling my bf daddy" (over exaggeration, I know) I think a good portion of pure vanilla girls wouldn't mind gently domming

>>6821282
dominant women seems to be stereotyped the bad way in pop culture. no wonder some women will keep those desires to themselves not to get laughed at.
it's always some slutty teacher, sexy serial killer in latex or leather wearing whip wielding dominatrix... and ofc male reaction to them in movies is usually negative.
another example is when some celebrity grow balls to wear some provocative outfit that makes her look like domme. it usually gets negative reviews in newspapers going along the lines "what the fuck is she playing at?"

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>>6821296
True, dominant women are often as poorly represented as sub males. Non-3rd-wave-femenismesque cultural revolution of gender when

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>>6821212
I really doubt there's many legitimate findoms among the CollarSpace scum tbqh famalam.

>>6821171
So what you're saying is, you read a lot on the internet, but you have no experience of real life kink. I can't say that's a surprise really.

>>6821229
You don't really have anything to lose by having a profile open on there, I do know one couple who met there, but the lady in the relationship is definitely a (b).

>>6821234
If she's already a responsible and empathetic person who tends to mother the people around her, I don't think you'd struggle to get a woman like that interested in GFD or RR. It's mostly about how you present it, if you go 'here are all my fetishes please let me lick ur armpit mistress' then... yeah, pretty much nobody is into that. If you start by introducing the aspects that you think she's going to like or at least find convenient and enjoyable, your chances are better. Uniquely Rika gives some good insights into how to introduce kink to a vanilla partner, it absolutely could not be less GFD but there are some transferable ideas.

>>6821282
Lack of hot sub men in the media is definitely an issue, we already see how the media affects people's sexual tastes by the low amounts of messages black women and asian men get on dating sites. I think if the idea of attractive submissive men was more mainstream/known about, you'd see more dominant women. Unfortunately most women's first experience with femdom or malesub is some kind of turn off or creepy experience, so we're gonna have to fix that one way or another.

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>>6821340
>So what you're saying is, you read a lot on the internet, but you have no experience of real life kink. I can't say that's a surprise really.
You know nothing about me so why are you so hostile? Also, if you're not going to construct a viable argument why even respond?

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>>6821340
> we already see how the media affects people's sexual tastes by the low amounts of messages black women and asian men get on dating sites.

That's not the media, moron. Asian men are largely effeminate and black women are largely masculine, which is not attractive to the average straight person.

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>>6821354
>>6821355
>feeding the attention whore

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>>6821355
And you're largely racist, which is not attractive to the average intelligent person. Here's your (You).

>>6821354
I'm hostile because views and apologias like yours directly contribute to the shittiness of trying to find a compatible partner in the femdom sphere. Trust me, dudes will do just fine convincing themselves that they don't need to contribute anything to a relationship without you helping them along. It's a really, really simple thing, don't call yourself submissive if you're not submissive. It's like if you're a passionate chef and you meet a girl on a chef dating site because you really deeply want a partner you can cook fancy stuff with, but when you get involved with her, you find out that even though she calls herself a 'chef', she can only make the most basic and shitty of white girl dishes and actually just wants to eat the stuff you cook. False advertising and deception is bad for everybody, so it's better to just be honest.

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>>6821354
Not her, but your views on kink could not be more isolated in their ivory tower if you had a dragon guarding it.

>>6821171
I can agree with the first paragraph. submission is some sort of relax for me but the second one doesn't describe me at all. as I said before I don't want an act based upon my script. I want something real, authentic and raw. I want to see domme enjoying it, seeing my partner enjoying herself is one of the best feels ever. whether it's because she enjoys given practice or she just likes to see me embarrassed and hopeless it doesn't matter, she is happy and so am I.
I haven't really payed a visit to real domme and I probably never will because they do it for money nothing more. I have seen countless clips of real sessions that pro dommes release and they all have this disgusted expression on their faces. they don't want to do it, they don't enjoy it. I would run away mid session or even before one if I saw that kind of face, but unless you are real sub you won't understand this.

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>>6820897
>The fetish exists for the enjoyment of the submissive

You can apply that exact logic to women wanting a dominant man. (Most) women want to submit to a strong guy, but there's an increasing pool of effeminate, unmanly or ugly dudes to cater for it, shrinking the pool to the top percentage of attractive, confident alphas.

Being a male sub is no different from being a submissive female. Gender roles are almost wholly a social construct. Male subs - that is, guys who truly feel submissive, inferior or lower on the hierarchy than women AND like it - are living proof of that.

>But you're still in control even if she has her way with you!
Women also have control when they have society's backing in most court cases, choose who gets to fuck her or not (and have society demonize and imprison those who defy this), and being the subject matter CONTROL THE SEXUAL HIERARCHY. If they're giving a blowjob they are also one mouth movement away from biting the guy's dick clean off too.

>>6821234
>changing someone's natural identity

Dodgy. If you somehow pull it off then kudos to you I guess, but they have to be born to do it.

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I got shoes I was waiting to arrive, hows your days so far

>>6821369
>largely racist
>white girl dishes
ok

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>>6821450
I'm sorry, I must have missed the part where I don't get to say whatever I want about white people, being a white person. Or did you assume that only people of colour would object to your blatant racism? Bless.

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>>6821456
I wasnt even the other anon I just wanted to point out that its still racism if I said that all white people should be killed even though I am also white its still racist

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>>6821442
I've been writing a paper today so I can day-drink excessively tomorrow.

>>6820990
I feel your pain anon.

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>>6821442
I was hoping for a day of cute posting since I got all the housework do hours ago, but well

>tell her about the time in third grade when my class watched where the red fern grows after reading it
>I cried at the end
>No one made fun of me though
>"I would've"
>"I'd bully the shit out of you"
>tell her that is mean
>"You'd loved it though little slut like you"
>I didn't want to admit it so I just buried my head in her lap
>"Knew it"

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>>6821340
Will you please stop tripfagging? I don't think you ever really say anything blatantly wrong, but honestly, it turns the thread south very quickly.

>>6821520
is the red fern grows sad?

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>>6821524
Not her, but it wouldn't help. People's posting styles tend to become recognizable based on how they structure their paragraphs, their vocabulary, and their intonation.

>>6821530
It's like old yeller, only there are two dogs and when the first one dies the second one drags itself up a hill to first one's grave to die of loneliness on top said grave.

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>>6821524
I was lurking without posting for a while and the thread really wasn't any less shitty. I was curious to see if it was any better, but it wasn't, sadly. So I might as well do what I want.

>>6821541
Also this. Very easy to recognise somebody's posts if you've already seen a lot of them.

>>6821460
I hope you find a qt sugar mama to buy you a dictionary so you can look up the meaning of racism, anon. c:

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>>6821549
the meaning of racism what are you talking about maybe she can buy me grammar lessons first so I can stop making sentences that never fucking end with no punctuation

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>>6821563
A good sugar mama should have a high enough income to fix all of these many problems with your education.

That's an interesting topic actually. Suppose you could have a manic pixie dream girl gf to fix all your problems. What would you actually want her to do for you?

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>>6821549
>thread really wasn't any less shitty. I was curious to see if it was any better, but it wasn't
that's because you keep posting, with or without name. it's that simple

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>>6821574
one of my education problems is I have no fucking idea how to respond to questions like this
uhhhhmmmm

Why are so many sub dudes so shit personality wise? It's like they're so bad to hang around with because they're just not "guys". They're overly nice or some, thirsty fuccboi, or something along those lines. It's like their entire personality is defined by this minuscule part of their sex lives

>>6820585
She's sitting on his chest but somehow he's supposed to be eating her out?

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>>6821456
Why do you hate your own race so much, Spiderbutt? Bad relationship with your father?

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>>6821583
I don't think you understand what lurking is. I didn't post in the thread for a month or so.

>>6821585
I think you're probably looking at this from the wrong angle- I imagine a lot of guys with social issues develop submissive fetishes out of the desire for somebody else to fix them or sheer self-centredness. Most of the sub guys I've met who seek actual D/s relationships were pretty socially well-adjusted and likeable, I think thirsty tryhards are just unlikeable in any fetish.

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>>6821585
It's because you don't actually want a submissive guy in real life, you just pretend to on 4chan for attention

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Why does EVERY girl who's into this fetish turn out to be a feminist? I could never submit to someone who adheres to such an illogical ideology. Even the ones who seem nice and intelligent end up having feminist cunt beliefs

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>>6821591
keep that bullshit to yourself. nobody's gonna buy it

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>>6821600
Because people who are into role reversal are likely opposed to prescriptive gender roles, and there isn't really a popular alternative to feminism yet when it comes to gender equality/flexibility.

>>6821590
I dated a white supremacist, hard not to see cultural whiteness as complete bullshit after that.

>>6821574
>>6821563
>>6821549
>This 18th century English aristocrat has decided to educate a peasant boy in return for sexual favors
>But she's in for a lot more than she expected because he thinks sex is putting his blimp flang in her slue canoe
>also included are anachronisms, weird scenes where the author's unrelated fetish is shoved in there, and that one touching moment that tricks you into thinking this story has heart and wasn't smut written for perverts on a Laotian shadow puppet theatre image board.

>>6821585
because they usually are passive aggressive. don't ask me why, I am just a simple armchair psychologist.
>>6821600
I've never met feminist who is into gfd or femdom. feels like they are all lesbians or asexual.

>>6821609
>i'll judge everyone, based on one person

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>>6821609
People into dickgirls usually aren't transgender activists. People who get off to slavery don't usually think slavery should be legal IRL. So why do girls who get off to role reversal think that gender roles should be reversed in real life? All of human history leads to the conclusion that that's a terrible idea. Women can't survive without dominant men.

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>>6821620
The difference is that women usually are more interested in their IRL sex lives than just wanking off online. And most women I know who are into dickgirls actually feel pretty strongly about trans rights. Maybe we're just more empathetic than you. Actually, I seem to remember a study on that, but I can't be arsed to drag it up at this time of night.

>>6821614
You only need to have your eyes opened by one person to start seeing everybody else's bullshit a lot more clearly.

>>6821620
>So why do girls who get off to role reversal think that gender roles should be reversed in real life?
you must have seen lots of captioned femdom images on tumblr if you mean this for real.

>>6821229
Source this right now please

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>>6821634
I'm not talking about "female supremacy" jerkoff material or whatever. I'm talking about girls who are into femdom and describe themselves as feminists in a non-sexual context. You might not run into them if you just jerk off alone in your basement instead of dating people.

>>6821627
You're certainly more gullible, I'll give you that.

>>6821627
>actually believing this

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>>6821627
Do you remember when you said you sometimes need people to tell you when you're being too much of a bitch? This is one of those times. You responded seriously to someone who said "Women can't survive without dominant men" in this thread of all places. It's time to stop posting for now until your head clears.

>>6821620
>>6821648
Your argument's a bit nonsensical. /rr/ women who are feminists are feminists because a decent amount of women internet aficionados are feminists.

>>6821658
That's absolutely untrue unless you spend all your time on tumblr or reddit.

>>6821648
I might not run into them because I am from europe not US... and to be honest third-wave feminism is exactly about privileges and ultimately female supremacy.

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>>6821141

>>This is why so many of you are single

After spending some time in some relationships I realized I'm a shitty boyfriend. I'm selfish, I want people to revolve around me but not have to pay them attention, and that's super fucking shitty. Oh well, I'll just have to improve myself.

>>6821666
Being honest, I'm pretty sure the large majority of third-wave feminists come from the US.

>>6820470
>pic

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?
IS THAT NOT WHY YOU ARE HERE?

>>6821662
Um...

>decent amount

Usual figures given as to number of feminists are 1 in 7 over 30 and 1 in 10 under thirty, that's a "decent amount" to me.

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>>6821141
>>6820897
Always appropriate

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>>6821620
>>6821648
Most feminists would hate a reversal of gender roles just as much as tradcons. Both the majority of feminists and tradcons support male gender roles, and hate the idea of men being as protected and valued as women. This can be seen in their mutal hatred of the MRM.

Unfortunately for them, a growing number of men have had enough of being disposable providers and protectors (or 'human doings' as Warren Farrell put it). The growth of the MRM and the fact that this thread exists are signs of this.

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Feminism is a name twisted by a very select few. Fact is, if you don't want equality then you're part of the problem on either side.
If someone tells you they're a feminist, keep an open mind and look for other red flags before you jump ship.

>>6821369
>largely racist

buzzword insults instead of counterargument

this namefag is full of shit and their argument is null. all comments hidden.

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>>6821062
I don't really think you should go online to find a relationship like this. It was mentioned further up, but most doms don't need to use the internet, so they don't.

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>>6821141
>This is why so many of you are single
I think it's really why most relationships don't work in general. People don't understand that nothing will ever be how they want it to be. Having a really good relationship is a lot of work for both sides, be it /gfd/ or not. I don't think people realize how much work a dom really puts into relationships, even if the sub is %100 submissive and lives for the dom.

>>6821671
My dad told me once that every relationship is just practice for the next one.

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>>6821442
Not great, I'm sick and I'm having a lot of car troubles.

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>>6821530
Hella sad yo.

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>>6821281
>>6821639
Senpai ni Necchuu! - Senpai, Oppai, I'm Lovin Her Hip

>>6820006
Anyone got the "when in doubt eat her out" pics? keep forgetting to save it

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Why aren't more sub women into this?

>>6821355
>black women are largely masculine

They aren't. But even if they were, it'd be kinda hot, because masculinity carries connotations of assertiveness and confidence. That's what a lot of guys into /rr/ are looking for.

>>6821620
>Women can't survive without dominant men.

Coming from a sub guy this is cuck talk. Pathetic.

>>6821620
>Women can't survive without dominant men.
This hasn't been true for literal centuries...

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>>6821717
>If someone tells you they're a feminist, keep an open mind and look for other red flags before you jump ship.
Calling the move for equality "feminism" is itself a red flag, because it implies that women's issues are the only thing keeping us from equality and that men are basically fine.

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>>6820730
This floats around when the subject of /gfd/ or /rr/ music comes up.

>all these people who don't think d/s can be fun for both sides
seriously, gf gets off the best when she's got me on a collar, and i've fucked in awkward positions to muscle failure before. If you give absolute unconditional obedience regardless of how tough it is for you and your dom wants to take advantage of that, you can have some incredible times. For example, wearing a collar out in public. I really, really didn't want to (made a qt outfit to go with it anyway though) because of the social stigma but she doesn't give a flying fuck about that shit, so that's what we did. There's (evidently) good feelings to be gotten from holding authority

Am I a good sub or have I gotten something wrong?

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>>6822033
Men maintain the infrastructure that allows women to survive without *physical* protection from a man. If all the men decided to quit their jobs, women would die out within a month.

If women did the same, elementary school would be cancelled (not like kids learn much there anyway) and front desks would be short-staffed for a week or two before men picked up the slack.

You know what grandpa used to say? That you could trust feminists. Because anyone who's fighting to be able to do shittier work for the sake of proving themselves is worth trusting. I dunno how many "shitty feminists" there are out there, but I've found plenty of the kind that I was told about.

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>>6821822
Here you go.
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>>6822179
2/2

>>6822163
>If all the men decided to quit their jobs, women would die out within a month.

Yes, truly as fish out of water women would flounder helplessly for all time, lo nary a single one would have gumption or self determination.

Whew, are threads this feisty usually? I only pop in on rare occasion.

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>>6822163
>Men maintain the infrastructure that allows women to survive without *physical* protection from a man.
That has nothing to do with males being dominant or sub. Plenty of sub guys doing those jobs.

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>>6822189
You think you're being funny, but you're right.

>>6822204
Dominant, masculine males are the ones who are primarily involved in manual labour and stressful jobs that women, even if they were capable of doing so, would never lower themselves to do.

When I say dominant I don't mean it strictly in a sexual way. What you like in the bedroom does not necessarily correlate with your overall character. Determination, leadership, physical and mental strength, a strong work ethic, a sense of pride and honor - these are the traits of a dominant male. You can exhibit these traits and still want to get pegged or whatever. Although I know that's hard for people in this thread to believe because most of you happen to be cowardly, useless NEETS in addition to being sexually submissive

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>>6822169
>You know what grandpa used to say? That you could trust feminists.
Grandpa was wrong. I'm not trusting anyone who thinks of my gender in these terms
>The history of mankind is a history of repeated injuries and usurpation on the part of man toward woman, having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over her.
This is from one of the first feminist gatherings in the 19th century.

Also, I get a really creepy femsub vibe from feminists with their obsession about rape and constant interest in talking about how all men everywhere have an inner Schrodinger's rapist who... whistles at you and, and.... grabs you and won't let go and oh my.... frigfrigfrigfrigfrig

They remind me of those middle aged male subs who claim that every woman has an inner domme.

Just ewwww.

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>>6822217
>When I say dominant I mean some other unrelated shit about pride, honour and blue-collar jobs.
ok anon

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>>6822240
Sometimes words have more than one meaning. You know this, but you're too cowardly to actually respond to my argument, because you don't like what it implies about yourself.

>>6822194
This one is especially shitty. Sometimes we have interesting discussions about gender dynamics and /gfd/ slash /rr/ in general. This is not one of those times.

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>>6822250
>what it implies about yourself.
This coming from an insecure sub guy wanting to call himself dominant on the basis of pride and blue-collar work. Self-loathing is not a good thing anon.

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>>6822265
So much projection. I feel sorry for you. Do you need help anon?

>>6822256
No, I'd say they are normally this bad.

>>6820005
>The Dragon's Heart:
This new one's pretty good. A little heavier, to a slight detriment, on world building rather than on the romance stuff itself, which is pretty unusual for Taiyakisoba, but great none the less.

>>6822217
You can exhibit these traits and still want to get pegged or whatever.

Yeah but at that point you're just engaging in casual fetishism. Romantic relationships, if they are to be successful at least, should be based on compatibility of personality and emotions. A dominant guy who likes stuff up his ass is just a dominant guy who loves stuff up his ass. It's different from actually having a submissive personality, which would be needed to fit well with a girl with a dominant personality.

It's because of people like you that guys feel pressured into feigning dominance and bottling up their emotions. It's not just females who spout this kind of shit. Men berate other men for showing sensitivity and weakness too. It's pretty fucked up actually but someone who thinks being a gfd/rr guy is about conforming to the norm as much as possible except also liking to get pegged on the side might not appreciate why exactly.

>>6822256
>>6822276
Hm, unfortunate.

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>>6822317
Well it's really just a bunch of lonely autists and attention seeking doms.

>>6822331
Pretty par for the 4chan course then I suppose.
Very well, as you where.

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>>6821651
Oh that's good timing, you posted right after I went to bed.

>>6821671
Well, the good news is that you've realised you have a problem, and that means you can fix it. A lot of people act like that and never realise there's anything wrong with it.

>>6821752
> I don't think people realize how much work a dom really puts into relationships, even if the sub is %100 submissive and lives for the dom.
Yeah, you're not wrong there. As for it being a general affliction of society, I found that when I was at university, pretty much everything around me was a selfish waste of oxygen, but once I started hanging around with people in their mid to late twenties, I found that the people around me were much more responsible, fair and empathetic. So maybe this thread's population is just a lot younger than I assumed.

>>6822124
No, you're not wrong, just be careful who you trust with that kind of power over you. I agree that one of the most fulfilling parts of D/s is when a sub gives over total authority to their dom, but knows that they can trust them not to abuse it.

i think you all need to google the word "cuddling".
i do not think it means what you think it means.

>>6821062
Source? Cant find anything on image search.

>>6821530
Yes. I remember when we read and watched it in elementary many kids openely teared up, even Chad Jr.

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>>6822370
>younger than I assumed
Well now there is this fancy poll y'all can take.
TAKE THIS POLL PLEASE
http
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>>6822397
>even Chad Jr.
dont remind me of all the Chadlings there were in middle school who would talk about how they sipped beer once and watch rated MA tv shows

>>6822124
that's the spirit. good D will make you do anything for her, even if you are reluctant at first. as long as you trust her there is nothing to worry about... not really gfd stuff but I used to know this girl who was into choking men with polybags, at first I was like what the fuck? but I must say it was fun to have someone trying to kill me yet knowing I can still trust her.

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>>6822108
>it implies that women's issues are the only thing keeping us from equality and that men are basically fine

It implies that women's issues are _important_ things keeping us from equality. Not the only ones.

And yes, men are basically fine. I mean, shitty things do happen all the time to people who are men, but rarely is it _because they're men_. Not never. But compared to the frequency with which women have to put up with shit _because they're women_, it's real fuckin' rare.

And to offer an alternative perspective: picking apart the _name_ of all things and shifting the focus onto the supposed plight of men is a red flag that someone's a red-piller cunt. Or just misinformed. Benefit of the doubt and all that.

>>6820125
where the fuck is this from? i see her often.

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>>6822555
http://monstergirlencyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon

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mommy domme mommy domme I want a mommy domme! ;_;

>>6822537
You're nuts.

The draft?

>>6822537
>And yes, men are basically fine.
>shitty things do happen all the time to people who are men, but rarely is it _because they're men_.
I don't wanna play a victim but man aren't fine, not at all
>there is almost no way you are going to get kids into your care as man
>unless you are from israel there is mandatory conscription for men only
>domestic violence where man is victim is a fucking joke to society yet it exists and it is a problem
>woman assaults man is ok, as soon as he starts to fight back he gets his ass kicked by some white knight
and probably worst of all
>false rape accusations
>false sexual harassment accusations
this shit ruins your whole life no matter if you are guilty or not

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>>6822619
I sympathize man, but these people don't care and start whining when you say anything about boys and men needing help, despite complaining all the time about gender roles and whatnot.

>>6822663
I don't really care, it's just funny to see women complaining about how easy life men have.
gender roles as they are seems rather balanced to me, man provide muscle and women pull the strings. I don't see how is this ever going to change.

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>>6822537
>It implies that women's issues are _important_ things keeping us from equality.
Which is nonsense, since they cannot be "women's issues" if the matter is inequality, except in the sense that they're more important to women. But what's important is highly subjective, other peoples problems always seem lesser and simpler. For that matter one of the core problems for men is exactly that their problems are deemed of lesser importance, because acknowledging them as problems implies weakness (more cynically, non-invincibility).
That said, I agree that in general, reading shit into the name of things is some ouija board shit (but on the other hand feminists have historically sperged out over implied gender in words like "fireman," so it's not that crazy to think their choice of label doesn't signify anything).

>>6822612
Well that's coming for women too now. (And suddenly, a lot of women (and men too) were a lot less enthusiastic about it).

>>6822663
God, that pic hits all the right notes.

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>>6822679
>gender roles as they are seems rather balanced to me, man provide muscle and women pull the strings.
They're outdated though, muscle isn't as important as it once was, and pulling strings is harder and worth less in a society of millions than in small towns of old.
Besides, gender roles are broader than that.

>>6822217
I work as an elevator mechanic bro, and I'm as submissive as they come. Just cause I work with my hands and can shoot the shit with "alpha" men, it shouldn't define me as a person. At work I'm confident, aggressive, hard working, etc. I have to meet new people everyday, deal with annoying people, do all types of shit I'd never do in my personal life. but when I'm out with my friends I don't say more than 500 words a night and rarely make eye contact with anyone, regardless of who they are. What I'm trying to say is what you do for a living doesn't define your personality.

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>>6822695
>cannot be "women's issues" if the matter is inequality
Don't want to add to this garbage but...here we gooooo. This statement is so fucking dumb mang, like, come on. They are women's issues because they affect women and pretty much only women. I'm never going to be sexually harassed at work, I'm never going to work the same hours to make less than a man. I'm never going to be objectified [spoiler]:^([/spoiler]. I'm never going to be viewed as weak in the workplace, and if I do stand up for my self myself more, my peers won't think I'm a bitch. The guv'ment will never tell me what I can and can not do with my own body. The fact that you can't understand that someone else can have a problem that you can't have astounds me really.

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>Whole thread falls into cancer even more
Woo.

Interesting to note how Spiderfag is the most hostile and caustic poster imaginable, and justifies it through this ugly cobbling of virtue signalling, world-sized ego judgements of "experience" and Goebbels-esque repetition

>>6822717
>tfw women want fathers to have zero say in what happens to their children
This is the only reason I won't say I'm completely pro-choice. I want a say in what happens to the child I fathered and would support. Can anyone here explain why they disagree with this viewpoint?

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>>6822717
>They're issues that only affect women because I'm on the wrong side of the one-way window and haven't experienced it yet
>Or even better, I straight out ignored it and reduced how much it meant!

>Sexual harrassment
I've been sexually harassed by women I work with, it's in fact common in the working world and laughed off.
>Wage gap
Equal pay laws exist, and the average hourly wage is higher for women. If that didn't matter, how come the "wage gap" for women is more urgent than the one for blacks, hispanics and the disabled?
>Objectification
Ever seen how women act around male strippers? No? Of course not, you can't imagine it. Plenty of posters have experienced it.
>My peers won't think I'm a bitch
I think you are.
>Guv'ment will never tell me what I can and can not do with my own body
What about your wallet, the express consequence of your body's labour and the reason why killing someone who doesn't harm you but is in the act of stealing your property is viable self-defence?
And if the government is allowed to tell people what is for the good of society and how to act towards men and women, why shouldn't it concern itself with the social effect of abortion?

You're a quisling bitch who is just right because oh god how can you not even understand it? #wooooooow

>>6822722
we tried to warn you this would happen

external communities will welcome you like we welcomed the /bdsmg/ evacuees

yours, the external communities

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>>6822728
>Hahah this thread is hella off topic!
>I'm not even contributing to its collapse, my personal opinions and politics are incredibly on topic and relevant y'see, it's those damned people who I disagree with who caused it
>better shitpost instead of contributing anything of value or pushing the thread towards anything that is actually worth talking about!

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>>6822737
Ooh, the ever ambiguous "We".

How about get bent.

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>>6822717
>I'm never going to be sexually harassed at work
Sexual harassment may happen to men less frequently, but if you are sexually harassed by a woman, no one will believe you and you will be mocked.

> I'm never going to work the same hours to make less than a man
Actually young women outearn men at the same jobs. http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/02/24/childless-women-in-their-twenties-out-earn-men-so/#39d8b3c36bb0 The "wage gap" only exists because women choose different jobs than men and take time off to raise children. There is no wage gap if you compare women and men doing the same job for the same hours with the same amount of experience.

>I'm never going to be objectified
You won't be objectified for your looks but you are objectified for your wealth and social status.

> I'm never going to be viewed as weak in the workplace
If you are not assertive and dominant enough you will be (by women), regardless of how good you are at your job.

>The guv'ment will never tell me what I can and can not do with my own body.
Like allowing your parents to circumcise you? Or not allowing young childless men to have a vasectomy? Or allowing your sexual partner to bring an unwanted pregnancy to term and have you support it financially?

So is there a succinct term for when the woman is sexually assertive but its not related to gender politics crap, worrying what total role reversal, and so forth and so on?

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>>6822762
>I don't want to consider the implications of my actions and desires

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>>6822745
>Actually young women outearn men at the same jobs
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/20/upshot/as-women-take-over-a-male-dominated-field-the-pay-drops.html
>but you are objectified for your wealth and social status.
If your world view is that men are the providers and that women are the homemakers maybe, but that's not really how the world works any more. Sure people are less likely to date me if I'm poor and won't get a job, but who would date a NEET that refuses to not be a NEET?
>If you are not assertive and dominant enough you will be (by women)
You missed the point. People in the work place will never instantly see a man for the first time and assume he is weak like they do for women.

>Like allowing your parents to circumcise you
That is an issue yes, fair point.However I would say it's impact is mitigated by the fact it is accepted in American society.

>not allowing young childless men to have a vasectomy
Not really sure what ya mean by this, everything I found said once you're 18 you can get one. Or before that if your parents sign off on it.
>Or allowing your sexual partner to bring an unwanted pregnancy to term
You want to force women to get abortions? That's just as bad as forced sterilization for pedos.

>support it financially
Child support is only granted to parents who need the support, and it's granted to men as well.

>>6822765
Um... I like to consider the implications of my actions and desires plenty. I'm just not interested in rebelling against the system on an ero board

>>6822762
I mean, that's just a dominate woman right?

>>6822773
Yeah, I guess it could be sexual role reversal as well, /srr/.

Since when this thread turn into a political debate?

No seriously, I'm genuinely curious. This used to be a thread about gentle femdom and role reversal, but now I just don't know anymore.

Yeah I'm just gonna wait until a new /gfd/ thread pops up since posting in this one is meaningless at this point.

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>>6822774
I think we get too hung up on terminology. Not just in this community but, like, as a culture. You don't need a name for it if it feels good and life isn't like scrolling through sad panda tags.

>>6822768
>You want to force women to get abortions?

Not him but what's wrong with that? The baby belongs to the father as well as the mother. If the mother can have an abortion or give birth to the baby without the father's consent why can't the father do the same to the mother? The fact that people think this is misogyny or whatever is evidence of how privileged females are.

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>>6822737
>this shit again
Next someone is going to stir shit up about how dominant women age out of their fetish and we can win the shitposting decathlon.

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>>6822768
>http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/20/upshot/as-women-take-over-a-male-dominated-field-the-pay-drops.html
Did you even read that article or did you just glance at the title? It isn't because companies pay women less for the same work. It's because women tend to work fewer hours and have less experience.

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>>6822778
Because the man in this situation doesn't have to undergo a medical procedure. The only case of court ordered medical procedures I can really find are courts ordering women to get c-sections. Letting the government demand that someone gets a medical treatment is a slippery slope.

>>6822781
>Today, differences in the type of work men and women do account for 51 percent of the pay gap
>not %100
>Ms. England, in other research, has found that any occupation that involves caregiving, like nursing or preschool teaching, pays less, even after controlling for the disproportionate share of female workers.
>This month, the union that represents Dow Jones journalists announced that its female members working full time at Dow Jones publications made 87 cents for every dollar earned by their full-time male colleagues.
>Still, even when women join men in the same fields, the pay gap remains. Men and women are paid differently not just when they do different jobs but also when they do the same work. Research by Claudia Goldin, a Harvard economist, has found that a pay gap persists within occupations. Female physicians, for instance, earn 71 percent of what male physicians earn, and lawyers earn 82 percent.

Nigger did YOU read it?

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>>6822717
No, literally dude. It's nonsense to think of them as "women's issues" if your beef with them is the inequality itself. Like I said, they're "women's issues" because of course people care more about the issues that affect themselves. Hence, if the whole movement thinks of itself as a tool against "women's issues", it's because its members prioritizes those rather than the abstract goal of "equality."

I've no idea how you could read
>But what's important is highly subjective, other peoples problems always seem lesser and simpler.
and conclude
>you can't understand that someone else can have a problem that you can't have

The point was simply that there's some verbal sleight of hand going on when you say "issues that are important to ___ are the important ones".

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>>6822785
>Today, differences in the type of work men and women do account for 51 percent of the pay gap
Type of work as in the job title. It doesn't account for differences in hours worked and experience.

>Ms. England, in other research, has found that any occupation that involves caregiving, like nursing or preschool teaching, pays less, even after controlling for the disproportionate share of female workers.
Pays less than... what? Nursing is one of the best-paying jobs you can get with an undergrad degree. I took a look at her 'research'. No figures or statistics are cited. It's just a load of baseless theorizing. http://ann.sagepub.com/content/561/1/39.short

>This month, the union that represents Dow Jones journalists announced that its female members working full time at Dow Jones publications made 87 cents for every dollar earned by their full-time male colleagues.
"Full-time" can mean anywhere from 40 to 120 hours a week. And again this isn't controlling for experience.

>Still, even when women join men in the same fields, the pay gap remains. Men and women are paid differently not just when they do different jobs but also when they do the same work. Research by Claudia Goldin, a Harvard economist, has found that a pay gap persists within occupations. Female physicians, for instance, earn 71 percent of what male physicians earn, and lawyers earn 82 percent.
Again, not controlling for hours worked, and not controlling for the type of law or medical specialty. I don't know much about lawyers but there are huge variations in gender distribution between different medical specialties - women predominantly specialize in lower-paying specialties with flexible hours, like family medicine and psychiatry, while specialties with long hours and high pay are male dominated. http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/ama-wire/post/medical-specialties-vary-gender

>>6822762
"Assertive."

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>>6822797
>type of work as in the job title. It doesn't account for differences in hours worked and experience.
For only half of the gap though! Do you not know how math works?!
>Pays less than... what?
Pays less for men than for women.
> I took a look at her 'research'
I'm calling bullshit. Not only do I not believe that you didn't pay the 30 bucks to get the paper, or that you already have access to this paper, but I also don't believe that, even if you did, you couldn't go through a 20 page paper in less than 14 mins.
>And again this isn't controlling for experience.
The salary gap appears to start early at the companies and grow over time: Male new hires make 11.5 percent more than female new hires. Men with more than 20 years of experience make 13.8 percent more than women at the same level.
>Again, not controlling for hours worked
Take doctors and surgeons. Women earn 71 percent of men’s wages — after controlling for age, race, hours and education.
Women who are financial specialists make 66 percent of what men in the same occupation earn, and women who are lawyers and judges make 82 percent.
Is clicking the links in the article really that hard?

>and not controlling for the type of law or medical specialty
>but also when they do the same work

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>>6822813
>For only half of the gap though! Do you not know how math works?!
I wonder what makes up the other half of that gap. It's not as if I mentioned it in my post. What a mystery.

>I'm calling bullshit. Not only do I not believe that you didn't pay the 30 bucks to get the paper, or that you already have access to this paper, but I also don't believe that, even if you did, you couldn't go through a 20 page paper in less than 14 mins.
People who go to school have access to most academic journals through their institution. Sorry to hear that you're a NEET. I skimmed through the paper looking for any figures that would back up her assertions. There aren't any.

>Take doctors and surgeons. Women earn 71 percent of men’s wages — after controlling for age, race, hours and education...
That article doesn't link to the actual research, so who knows what the fuck that means. "Education" is a vague term and the implications are very different if it's referring to e.g. people who enter med school with a bachelor's vs. a masters, or to different specialties.
In any case, the conclusion the researcher draws is
>“The gender gap in pay would be considerably reduced and might vanish altogether if firms did not have an incentive to disproportionately reward individuals who labored long hours and worked particular hours,” she wrote in a paper published this month in The American Economic Review.

>Occupations that most value long hours, face time at the office and being on call — like business, law and surgery — tend to have the widest pay gaps. That is because those employers pay people who spend longer hours at the office disproportionately more than they pay people who don’t

So... Women earn less because they work less. This is somehow misogyny.

Stop bending over backwards to defend this moronic clickbait article. This is why no one trusts feminists.

Is chastity a part of gentle femdom?
Honestly, I see a gentle dom more prone to give good handjobs while the sub is tied than locking his dick for a good time.

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>>6822852
Absolutely not, that cancer should remain on fetlife

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>>6822852
Chastity is generally considered harsher femdom.

>>6822821
>GENTLE

>>6822856
Wax barely hurts.

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>>6822821
>>6822858
it's not gentle if it hurts

>>6822859
Rope hurts, being tied up in an uncomfortable position hurts
Stop whining because a single pic isn't to your taste.

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>>6822537
What a load of lies. Women are far more protected and valued than men are, and have fewer gender issues compared to men. Male gender roles are still nearly as restrictive as they were fifty years ago.

When women do have gender issues, it is seen as a problem that urgently needs to be fixed, while anyone who speaks up about men's issues is smeared as a whiner and a misogynist.

What is a feminist like you doing here on /gfd/ and /rr/ anyway, surely men not conforming to gender roles is 'male entitlement' or 'misogyny' to you? Shame for you there's no fire alarm on the internet to silence those uppity men who don't know their place as disposable providers and protectors of women.

I challenge you to name at least three ways in which men are privileged above women in the West.

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Why is body hair considered masculine? Women have pubes too ya know. I've been in so many situations where I almost seal the deal, but the other party backs away because I don't shave. They don't even try to force me to shave.

Holy shit a talking fuzzball!

>>6822901
It's not even that bad! I wax my arms and legs and chest, but I think my pubes are pretty cute! I just don't get why being hairy is a bad thing is all.

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>>6822852
>Is chastity a part of gentle femdom?
I'd say so. Done right it doesn't even hurt him. Ultimately it's just a slow burning teasing session. I think there's even something quite romantic about slipping one onto a guy, as if to tell everyone else "fuck off, he's taken!".

>>6822901
>>6822903
It's really just because guys tend to have more of it - not so different from muscles.

>>6822906
>"fuck off, he's taken!".
THAT'S why I love it so much, better than any collar can ever be. That being said, what do y'all think of the dom having more than one partner? Not more than one sub, and not the humiliation of cuckolding.
>>6822909
I just don't see why people hate it so much, it's not like a jungle. I'd shave it, but it grows back so fast it's not really worth it. Even the stuff I wax is back in a week.

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Small penises, ya or nay?

>>6822900
>>6822913
Guy's pubes can hide half of their dick and can make women think he has a microdick.

>>6822679
>gender roles as they are seems rather balanced to me, man provide muscle and women pull the strings.
That sounds more like exploitation than balance.

>>6822960
But that's my fetish anon

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>>6823041
Go on :3

>>6823046
Is size humiliation /gfd/?

>>6823072
well it can be ;3

>>6822906
>>6822913
It's nice seeing some gentle doms liking chastity. It's probably considered more rough, but controlling a sexual part of a man seems like a very intimate thing to do.