So I'm watching this for the first time in years and holy

When I watched this and the original American Tail as a kid, I liked this one a lot more.

>>95362802
>And the soundtrack.
I was shocked than Hans fucking Zimmer was behind it.

>>95362857
I can get behind this logic.

It's more fun.

The first one is really good but it's also such a downer.

>>95362802
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d85_BH9huvE

This song fucks me up every time

The Laaaaaaaaaaazy EYE!

>>95363546
came to post this

>>95362857
>>95362912
>/co/ preferring wacky cartoons over kino
What a surprise.

>>95363546
Freaked me the fuck out as a kid.

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>>95363728
What about it?

>>95363158
THIS

>>95362802
There's some fucking great atmosphere in that movie. The lighting and imagery of the indians thinking that Tiger is a god was fantastic. And I'll always love that intro sequence where Fievel imagines himself in the west, and then things slowly transform back to his New York reality when his mom calls him to dinner.

>>95364522
It was pretty spot on with kids playing in the backyard.

Man movies really knew their audiences back then

>>95362802 (OP)
No, this movies is plenty appreciated by /co/. If anything is underrated, it's the first American Tail. Last time I tried to make a thread about that movie I learned that it's a boring downer that doesn't stand up to any of Disney's films from that decade. Silly me for remembering it as an award-winning tour de force of animation.

>>95363702
Original American Tail was unironically about a bunch of jewish folks immigrating to a new country and kicking out all the ones who actually lived there so they could have more for themselves.

>>95365627
Jesus fucking Christ /pol/ fuck off

>>95365634
Literally the plot of the movie. Didn't need to twist or make up a single thing, that's what happens. Cats were there first and the specifically and repeatedly stated to be jewish mice put them on a ship towards a whole other country at the end of the movie and cheer how there aren't anymore cats in America. Not like the movie pretends they're wild and uncontrollable monsters, Tiger is in the movie after all.

Seriously what happens, rewatch the movie.

>>95365587
>>95365563
You corrected yourself, and you still fucked up. We're talking about the sequel.

>>95365634
Just fucking ignore him. We all know how this fucking works by now, don't give him the satisfaction.

>>95365772
>ignoring literally everything else in the movie to focus on dumb shit like this

Fuck off flat earther

>>95365828
>ignoring a major point of the movie
Having 25th

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>>95365772
>>95365627
>>95366563
Does anyone remember when /co/ was good

>>95366638
No board on this site has ever been good.

>>95362857
>>95362912
My fine African American gentleman.

The third movie opening with Fievel in New York saying, "I dreamed we moved out west," wrote the entire third film off for me. I don't care if you can mental gymnastic it as 'foreshadowing', what they intended was obvious.

>>95366638
You are actively making it worse. Fuck him, and fuck you for giving him attention.

Fuck everything, only cartoons now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFe39CCV8Hk
Best song.

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>>95366525

>>95366726
>third movie
What

>>95366760
The first of the 2 direct to dvd sequels

>>95366751
For maximum effect play this song while watching
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy8kmNEo1i8

>>95366760
They have made FOUR.

>>95366769
....so there's a fourth movie too?

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>>95366786

I flip flop between this and the first film as to which like more.

>>95366796
Correct. Neither of them hold a candle to either of the originals.

I remember this one vividly
I had one of those CD-ROM storybook things with this movie, gotta rewatch both one of these days

I wish Don Bluth got one of those Director Blu Ray compilation sets

I love this movie's critter-frontier aesthetic, what else has that kinda old-west-town-made-from-trash deal aside from this and Rango?

>>95366893
This wouldn't be on it. Fieval Goes West is like the Land Before Time sequels - Don wasn't involved in any capacity.

>>95366904
Lucky Luke

>>95366916
At least this one was worthy of the original, unlike most if not all the other Don Bluth film sequels.

>>95366796
Compared to The Land Before Time, let's be thankful they stopped at 4

>>95366893
>Don Bluth Blue Ray collection.

All my money.

Best 2d animated water of all time in that movie

>>95366939
I'll agree with that.

My brother once told me that there was gonna' be a crossover movie between this and Great Mouse Detective.

I'm still slightly salty.

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how did they get away with it?

>>95367018
Issa cat

>>95367119
Well I'll give the artist props fror getting the character models right. Not enough porn artists do that.

>>95367152
Inusen's good like that.

Just don't pay attention to the dialogue though, jeez.

>>95367174
being a good artist usually means they suck at writing, music, etc

>>95367174
>CUMMING BITCH!!!!
I don't see a problem here.

>>95367119
>rating
>questionable
I'm dyin

Just remember, /co/ - one man's sunset is another man's dawn. I don't know what's out there beyond those hills. But if you ride yonder... head up, eyes steady, heart open... I think one day you'll find that you're the hero you've been looking for.

>>95365799
How did I fuck up? I deleted the original because I left a few words out, but the message was the same: this movie isn't underrated by /co/, the first one is.

>we're talking about the sequel
No duh.

>>95367536
k

>>95367968
>If anything is underrated, it's the first American Tail
You're right. I read both those entirely wrong. You were clear, and I fucking breezed through them too quickly because I wanted to find the differences between the posts as opposed to actually reading the content. I apologize.

>>95366854
Same. Glad to find someone else here doesn't necessarily think the sequel is superior just because it's funnier. They're both good at what they do.

>>95362878
>I was shocked than Hans fucking Zimmer was behind it.
But OP's pic clearly says James Horner.

>>95367536
RIP Jimmy Stewart. What a way to endcap a legendary career.

>>95367008
Oh man, that would've been epic

>>95368008
Not a problem

>>95368015
This is entirely true, but they're both entirely different movies. Fievel: An American Tail is a wonderful animated drama. It hits hard and is something to really think about. In all honesty, I never appreciated it as a kid. It wasn't until I was in my teens that I really even understood what it was about, let alone appreciating the story for it. Meanwhile, Fievel Goes West is just straight fun with an underlying veil of depression that you only see when you get older. It actually does have a lot serious elements but those are kind of hidden to kids.

American Tail is definitely the better movie, but I think Goes West is the much more enjoyable movie.

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>>95362802
i lose it when i see this.

every fucking time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sFNYWExUSU

>>95362802
>Top tier villain
>Top tier music
>Based Don Deluise
>Really fluid animation

I honestly enjoy it more than the first one.

>>95368104
THE I HURT MYSELF FUCKING DESTROYS ME

>>95366939
Truth.

>>95366734
>the inky dinky BIT OFF THE MOUSE'S HEAD!

holy shit that spider makes me laugh

>i'm blind! i'm blind!

fuuuck LOL

>>95368143
as i kid i fuckin busted out laughing and i still have hearty chuckles about it as an adult

>>95368181
Itsy Bitsy Spider.

It's a nursery rhyme.

>>95366734

>upskirts

l-lewd.

>>95368102
>Fievel Goes West is just straight fun with an underlying veil of depression that you only see when you get older.
This is so true. I rewatched it for the first time as an adult recently, and while I laughed my butt off, I felt strangely sad afterward. I blame the song "Dreams", though it could be something deeper than that.

>>95362802

Reminder that this was rendered noncannon so they could make a shitty sequeal and tv series back in New York.

Boy, was it awkward seeing this movie first and then going back to the first one. That definitely threw me for a spin.

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>>95367119
Holy shit, what is it with people posting porn links casually on a sfw board. I know everybody knows what e621 is, but holy shit have some standards and take that to the board made just for you degenerates, /aco/.

>>95368482
Majority of /co/ characters are banned on /aco/, newfag. Even thundercats will get you banned for furry. Links to porn have been a fucking staple of 4chan on blue boards too and don't break any rules. Still doesn't stop some janis/mods pretending it does though.

>>95368482
>/aco/
That has nothing to do with /co/. Nothing /co/ related is allowed there. It all goes into the /trash/.

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>>95368482
LOOK AT THE MORAL FAG

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>>95368482

>>95368424
The TV series was in the west. The third movie retcon came after that.

>>95368922
THERE WAS A TV SERIES?!

Fuck how do I remember the obscure shit. Swamp Thing, The Toxic Avengers, Problem Child, Back to the Future, Where's Waldo, Bill and Ted, Cowboys of Moo Mesa, BUT I NEVER KNEW FIEVEL HAD A CARTOON SERIES.

>>95368950
I didn't know for a long time either.

>>95368371
For me, it was the visual representation of the American Dream versus the reality. The movie did those beautiful fantasy vs. reality moments, and when father Mousekewitze describes how their new home will soon be an oasis, the animation shows the water tower leaking and greenery just shooting up all over the town, with bridges built over rivers and mice happily engaging each other.

And then he finishes, and it's back to reality. A fucking can in the dirt, and a tiny mud puddle near them. And then it gets worse.

>>95369031
I mean, isn't that how the dream of the West was then?

Like Cat. R Waul's puppeteering accurately did the thing of hey look at this untouched paradise all waiting for you, it's nothing but opportunity.

And then people get there and it's just. Desert.

>>95369046
Yeah. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. Granted, most people didn't end up in deserts. Outside of the southwest there aren't deserts in America, but people didn't find Gardens of Eden like they expected. They found nature, and they had to adapt and survive.

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>>95368564
It seems I was not wrong that you degenerates belong on /aco/.

At any rate, there didn't used to be so much porn linked everywhere all over 4chan, it's rather distasteful at this point.

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>>95369263

>>95369263
>saying this shit while purposely trying to summon him

Fuck you and I was enjoying this thread too.

>>95369263
>didn't used to be so much porn linked everywhere all over 4chan
Telling lies, anon. For shame

>>95369263
>At any rate, there didn't used to be so much porn linked everywhere all over 4chan, it's rather distasteful at this point.
Jesus fucking christ. You just came here today for the first time, didn't you? Furry or fucking not, you clearly haven't fucking seen one of the weekly Raven threads yet.

>>95366751
looks like both of them got some puss in the end

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>>95369436
fuck

>>95363831
the fact that they turned seizures into a super power
as some one who had a friend who sometimes suffered from them it was fucking freaky

>>95369449
Now.....BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!

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>>95366679
I don't know, 2007 /co/ was pretty decent. Mainly comic dumps, and the only generals were DC/Marvel cape stuff. Nowadays, it's nothing but tumblr and obnoxious cartoons. I only keep coming back for the rare comic dump that isn't capreshit.

this has to be one of the best sequences from that movie
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQPqdS8ylQY

also it was the call for the old Cartoon Network's Ad, i find it incredible on how they managed to use the blues brothers version of Rawhide for this movie.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoLds87r6IE

>>95370201
2009 and fucking apple happened anon

>>95369263

Anon I don't believe you've been here as long as I have and I can honestly tell ya

You could find porn or at least a link in just about any thread

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>>95371601
>raccoons in the desert
say what now

>>95365587
I don't get why /co/ has started to hate Don Bluth so much the last year or so.

>>95368950

Yeah, I remember it being on CBS, Cat R Waul being the main bad guy. It didn't last long though, last episode I remember was one of the biggest Cats in the series protecting Feviel's baby sister and even beating up Waul over her. Mostly the line of Waul telling the spider to "shut up and find my face." after the beating.

>>95368950
>Cowboys of Moo Mesa
But do you remember The Legend of Calamity Jane?

>>95372918
The same reason they shit on StarToons, TMS, and John K. Basically, if you look back on 80's or 90's animation with any fondness you're an autist with shitty taste. Never mind that no serious animation critic would hold any of those artists in disregard. A lot of anons here just like to be contrarians.

>>95372937
Was the role of Waul reprised by John Cleese?

>>95362802

The only thing I remember about this movie is that it was playing in the rest home when I went to visit my grandpa, for some reason that has sort of killed my desire to ever watch it.

>>95374140
Pretty sure it wasn't.

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>>95363546

>>95366904
There was a series in the 90s called Santo Bugito that was literally that with insects, it's alright if you don't mind the Clasky Ksupo aesthetic.

>>95369816
When you just nutted and she keep suckin.

>>95362802

https://youtu.be/ahfzF9ny0qE
okie dokie

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ROLLIN' ROLLIN' ROLLIN'

>>95374873
This scene sure stuck with me

>>95374873

I don't this song every time it pops up in my play list

>>95374337
kek

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>>95363158

>>95363158
romance for the ages

>>95366943
Oh god, by the 6th one Fievel would have been explicitly Christian wouldn't he?

>>95369075
>Granted, most people didn't end up in deserts.

You say that, but until they were properly filled with white ranchers and farmers, the Great Plains especially the Montana/Wyoming ends of them were called the Great American Desert.

>>95374126
Nah, John K earned his hatred by being an asshole, grooming art school girls, and by showing just how overrated he was with Adult Party Cartoon.

>>95377497
Adult Party cartoon was better than old Ren & Stimpy though. People are just saying it's shit because they're dumb nostalgiafags.

>>95369816
>>95370151
This shit is legit scary.

>>95378800
Don Bluth man, dude saw things in a weird way

>>95367018
Thicc

>>95378681
That is some weak bait.

>>95374126
John K is a fucking garbage person.

>>95374016
NOPE

>>95381626
Calamity Jane was this short lived Canadian cartoon with realistic gun use and cutie protag.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN3mtfhHcIo

>>95378800
which is why it worked so well.

>>95374873
Wait, their mouths were open the whole time? I Always saw it differently until seeing that still

thanks /co/ now im reminded to go find these two films again. From the sounds of it I'm better off never seeing the spinoffs or sequals

>>95381653
I watched it on Netflix

>>95377330
...?

He's Jewish, bro. The first movie begins with him and his family celebrating Hanukkah.

>>95378681
Don't you have cartoon news to report on, Amid?

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>>95382254

>>95382302
You're right, I don't get it. Each film explored a different chapter in the life of a young Russian immigrant. Unless there was some mass conversion of Russian-American Jews to Christianity in the late 1800s, I don't see why Fievel would be a Christian by the 6th one.

>>95382398
Jesus Christ dude. Go watch all fourteen Land Before Time movies before I have to explain this joke to you

>>95365828
>not knowing flat earth meme was a joke we started and don't actually believe in.

That was like 15 or 20 trolls ago, anon.

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>>95375654
>mfw this is actually in the movie

>>95382909
what? when? I don't remember anything like that.

>>95382737
From the sounds of this thread that sounds like torture.
I think i've seen the first one but the number of them, tone of the thread and knowing the fate of that one VA kills any motivation to watch them

>>95382398
By like, the fourth LbT movie, they were practically VeggieTales.

>>95384339
Veggie Tales is enjoyable though.

>>95383618
It's a single frame with a drawing of a dick in it. You won't spot it unless you know it's there and freeze-frame it.

>>95385209
HOLY SHIT

I THOUGHT YOU WERE FUCKING WITH ME

>>95385052
If you are single digit.

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>>95387947
FUCK OFF INFIDEL

>>95387947
Try again. His Cheeseburger is entertaining no matter how old you are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmIKR458M0A

>>95362802
Wait, this movie is good and not just a cash grab?

>>95388692
Yes. The cashgrab movies started with the third.

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>>95389190
Cool, gonna wa-
>movies
>started with the third
>started
>movies
>pic

>>95374140

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/tv-shows/fievels-american-tails/&ved=0ahUKEwjQkefqsKvWAhUh9YMKHWgFC78QFggbMA4&usg=AFQjCNFD2DwW4FGMgK2bfmiXFYh3VX1zAQ

>>95389398
what

>>95391711
They kept going just to milk it like they always fucking do, and they did it paste three.

>>95393410

Oh god they made more then 3 movies

I only the main 2 then the cash grab

>>95385294
Yep. They removed it on the Blu-ray edition, but amazingly it's still there on the Netflix version.

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Any love for this movie?

>>95397756
I remember going back after not seeing it for a while and thinking it was less epic than I remembered. As a writer I'm obligated to support it just because it encourages kids to read.

>>95397756
was definitely less epic than i remembered, also shorter
also, i get it was meant to promote reading..but then why use a nerdy shut in who quotes facts and statistics? he obviously reads already
would hit a bit stronger with a less nerdy main character i think, like, if theyd be a bit of a jock or something and hadnt been scared or worried at first, before being confronted by Mr Hyde or Ahab and Moby Dick, finding themselves in awe and coping with the fantasy and fiction around them

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What about this gem that seems to be glossed over to often

>>95398447

Black Cauldron was kinda disappointing honestly