https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/0 9/15/hydra-red-skull-cos

well here's hoping someone is savvy enough to go as Earth-10 Superman without any of those fuckers batting an eyelash

>>95361506
oh no! not rose city comic con! thank you for sharing this bleedingcool article! keep fighting the good fight! hopefully we have a nice, meaty, 300+ posts thread about this. actually discussing comics is for nerds anyway


what's next? I can't cosplay as Hate Monger because he looks like he's in the klan?! Won't somebody PLEASE think of the neckbeards!!!!

So that means no imperial cosplay right?

>>95361581

Or Girl Und Panzer cosplay

>>95361581
or Stroheim cosplay

>>95361675

He didnt fight the pillar men just to get this shit!

HydraCap

Earth 10 DC

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What KIND of Red Skull cosplay was this, exactly? Was it just a blatant SS uniform with a red mask (like most RS cosplayer), or did he at least mix things up a little for a change?

I don't understand why nobody opts for Kirby's green robe design, or literally any other costume variation he's had.

>>95361782
the best one is the 60s revival where he's in a cute green sweater all the time with a lil swastika

>>95361782
because generally the kind of person who decides to cosplay red skull is doing it in bad faith and just wants to offend people with no repurcussions

>>95361860
Or maybe it's because he's a cool visual.
No one gives a damn about the hundreds of people who cosplay Joker.

>>95361938
>>95361860
Or they're casuals who only know him from the movie. Seems like the most likely since they think Hydra had anything to do with Nazis before the past decade.

So no Magneto to, right? Doesn't matter what kind of reminder he is, the dude is a walking reminder.

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HAHA, AIM reigns supreme once again!

>>95361938
>maybe it's because he's a cool visual.
their behavior speaks otherwise.
Joker cosplayers can get pretty bad but red skull cosplayers always get worse

>>95362095
prove this.

>>95362095

What about other Nazi cosplay from other works of fiction?

Girl und Panzer is a nod to the Panzercorps.
Kantai Collection? Both the IJN and the Kriegsmarine.
Stroheim? Heroic Nazi that fights vampires.
AXIS POWER HETALIA!
HELLSING!

If they're banning Hydra, then they should ban other cosplay that is tangentially related to nazis as well.

>>95362051
They could fit four fans in that fucking costume

White history is literally under attack

>>95362220

I'd like to see MODAAK cosplay instead

www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-J8O_wYkAg
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDZNc9bStWE
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTB5PijEdbg
www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRUU33K0ocY

>>95361506
Keep waiting for someone to declare Cobra uniforms Problematic (tm) and the resulting shitstorm it would cause.

>>95362693
see, that would be better because then you'd have organized protests of assholes not only dressed as Cobra but blaring the Cobra half of the movie intro song

>>95362219
star wars too thos niggas be all nazi like

>>95361619
Oh this is the worst~

>>95361581
They wouldn't dare ban the 501st after all they've done for people... would they?

>>95363265
Yes they will and there is nothing you can do about it, Drumpfkin.
... Okay seriously now, there are people who genuinely believe stormtroopers are actual symbols of white supremacy and even though they took inspiration from Nazi Germany, that doesn't justify treating it as a real life symbol of white supremacy. People that do this cannot tell reality from fiction.

Great, yet another thing sjw cunts have ruined. Cant they fuck off and stop invading the comics medium and make their own fandoms and stop trying to force the industry to cater to their bullshit?

>>95362219
no Uber cosplay (not that I've ever seen one)

>>95361555
Yeah man, fuck free speech! Comics have always been way too alternative anyway. Let's censor comics again - comics code was the best.

>>95362095
(Citation needed.)

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>>95361938
>>95362095
Hey, even the Joker hates Nazis.

>>95363623
>kay seriously now, there are people who genuinely believe stormtroopers are actual symbols of white supremacy and even though they took inspiration from Nazi Germany, that doesn't justify treating it as a real life symbol of white supremacy. People that do this cannot tell reality from fiction.

On the one hand you're right and an inspriation for a badguy is laughable when you think it denotes actual feelings on the matter, unless you're one of those political retards so detached from reality you can't contextualize politics unless it's in the vision of a pop culture reference.

On the other hand I'm willing to at least concede that yes they're called STORMTROOPERS.

>>95364484
>ruined because you can't wear hugoboss, bald cap and paint your face red.

Though if were banning red skull, can we through in the hetalia faggots in as well.

>>95365323
Well if you were going to do that and spent all the time and money getting prepared, yeah that does sound like a good way to ruin someone's con.

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>>95361506
>SJWs don't ruin everything

>>95365301
>On the other hand I'm willing to at least concede that yes they're called STORMTROOPERS
Yes. And...?
Does it justify them being banned?

>>95365408
Why did people do this? Why show your most vulnerable state and post it on public? You are just giving more ammo for the other side to make fun of you.

>>95365323
> can we through in the hetalia faggots in as well.

To think there was a time where these guys could run around in full nazi garb and no one would bat an eye

>>95365452
Social media generation

>>95365452
>i'm sad please give me internet points out of pity.

>>95365301
>On the other hand I'm willing to at least concede that yes they're called STORMTROOPERS.

And? The term Stormtroopers came from the FIRST World War, nothing to do with Nazis.

>>95365258
Cosplay is not a free speech issue.

>>95361506
Remember when Hydra was a generic evil terrorist group in Marvel and had nothing to do with Nazis?

>>95361506
Fucking neo-nazis do The same thing old nazis did : forbid and censure. Best case scenario would be if next CC everyone will dress like nazi skull to show huge fuck you to snowflakes.
It's fucking fiction villian. He loses everytime.

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>>95361506

>RCCC decides to ban Hydra/Red Skull cosplay because its close ties to Nazi imagery.

I mean...really?

>>95361506
If Disney/Marvel had realized that there would be such an outcry about neo-Nazis close to ten years down the road, do you think they'd have replaced Nazis in "Captain America: The First Avenger" with HYDRA?

>>95362220
It's at least two, one for each arm and leg.

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>>95366033
No.

>>95366232
Man, I almost forgot Falcon was black.

Then I saw this page.

>>95366232
Meh, this is "shittydra", the only Hydra that count are the ones were Strucker or Viper are the Leaders.

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>>95366626
Hasn't Strucker been dead for a while now? Even if he did 'get better' somehow, I don't think he's actually been relevant for a while now.

Is the Red Skull, and Hydra still even Nazis? Marvel seems to change them often.

>>95361555
I bet you thought you were pretty clever and funny when you wrote that

>>95366840
Baron Strucker has been killed four times and is currently alive, which makes his complete absence from Secret Empire a bit puzzling.

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>>95361619
>no Erikaniggers
Thank God. On the other hand no Erwinfags too, which is much worse.

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>>95362181

>>95361675
>tfw Stroheim was placed in the northern African division in the epilogue to down play the fact he was a fucking nazi

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>>95362219
>Kantai Collection? Both the IJN and the Kriegsmarine.
>banning qt Prinz and Bismarck cosplayer
N-no! This needs to be stopped.

>>95362823
Sounds cool.

>>95361782
Last Red Skull cosplay I saw at a convention was pretty much full-on SS regalia with a really cheap-looking skull Halloween mask painted red

>>95366033
I am fairly sure they started as nazis but split off when marvel decided it restricted what stories they could tell.

>>95367397
>northern African division

What? No, he was in Russia, he died at Stalingrad, it even said he died a patriotic German soldier

>>95361555
>Won't somebody PLEASE think of the neckbeards!!!!

As opposed to all of the totally non-neckbeardy comic fans like you, you dashing young urbanite.

>>95362221
how is that the case here?

>>95361506
Should they ban captain america too with the hydra shitshow they pulled off?

>>95362221
But the Red Skull was created by j

fuck it

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>no more sexy Waffen lady officer cosplay

Thanks liberals

>>95362219
those people are tolerated since they tend to just take the aesthetic of the german army, they tend not to take from the political side of things, being cute girls in army outfits

red skull tends to go full goose-stepping hitler race war

>>95367651
Anyone going to this shitshow should absolutely report any Captain America cosplays they see to security.

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>>95361506
Why not use this opportunity to cosplay an obscure group called WESPE, with not so subtle german accents. Belief in NOTHING actually protects you from being banned.

>>95366840
>Hasn't Strucker been dead for a while now?
He was a fricking Nazi too, though.

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>>95362095
>their behavior speaks otherwise.

One of my cousin's buddies dressed up like Red Skull one Halloween because said cousin's kid went as Captain America. They show up at his buddies house, the kid all happy to be Cap with his mask and little plastic shield and when Buddy Skull opened the door for their group of trick or treaters he let out a loud cackle saying that while kid Cap may have found his secret lair he would never get the Halloween candy. Well the kid cap was at first shocked as hell, I don't think even my Cousin knew about this, but after a few seconds the kid knew what to do. He just hucked his little shield at the skull and upon taking the hit Buddy Skull threw himself to the floor thwarted and now with a clearer line of sight Kid Cap saw the bag of goodies that the skull was holding hostage and he ran in and "rescued" it from the clutches of evil. He even went around and shared a good portion of it with other kids in the neighborhood.

>>95365452
this generation doesn't understand what private life and public life mean.

>>95369832
Wow that guy sounds like a dick

>>95361506
>Rose City
Who gives a fuck?

>>95369832
>red skull hording all the candy
Man Nazis sure are assholes

>>95361555
>Hate Monger

Literally Hitler.

>>95361581
No Red Son either.

>>95370212
Well TECHNICALLY Hitler

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>>95361860
>generally the kind of person who decides to cosplay red skull is doing it in bad faith and just wants to offend people with no repurcussions

>>95361860
Who the fuck is offended but a super villain costume? Who is putting the time and effort into a super villain costume with the intent of offending people? Were you dropped?

>>95369888
>Guy puts on a show for his friend's kid, lets him act like Captain America and gives him a bag full of candy

Oh yeah, total dick.

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>>95370449
>Who is putting the time and effort into a super villain costume with the intent of offending people?
Hey.

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>>95370449
>Who is putting the time and effort into a super villain costume with the intent of offending people?

>>95370496
>Time and Effort
Jimmy was as low effort as they come

>>95370527
I don't see how that is offensive. If anything, it's funny. Now if he dressed as Red Skull and ran into the synagogue singing Landser songs and punching the rabbi in the face, that would be different.

>>95370527
>not a dragon dildo
one job.

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>>95370574
I just automatically assume that if you're cosplaying, you're gonna go the extra mile.

Point to a large gathering of people where you think you can run around yelling HORSECOCK without somebody getting their panties in a twist over it.

It's a thing you acknowledge will happen if you do a particular thing. It's like all the kids that are inevitably gonna do blackface Halloween costumes again this year, they'll pretend they had no idea people would get offended, but of course they fucking did.

>>95370420
No, for some reason soviet imagery is okay for general public

Swastika is a no-no, but hammer and sickle is cool

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>>95370642
>implying blackface isn't funny

>>95370684
It may be because the soviets never actually did anything quite on the same level as the Nazis, i mean there were some extremely close calls, but ultimately the world never went to war with the soviet union.

>>95370642
To be fair there's a difference. Horsecock's catchphrase is Horsecock.
Red Skull's catchphrase isn't "Gas the Kikes"
Besides it's entirely possible for Horsecock guy to be completely civil apart from the dildo, and not yell horsecock at random people.

>>95366588
Falcon is actually more interesting when he talks that way. It gives him more character. Better than just being a black captain america wannabe

>>95370712
Nigga are you for real, Soviets were like ten times worse

Their gulags were basically death camps (katyn), great starvation in Ukraine, mass rapes in eastern poland

World never really gave a fuck because CCCP did all of this on their own turf, but don't think they were better than nazis

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>>95370699
The only thing I implied is that if you wear blackface and act surprised that someone is pissed off by it, you're full of shit.

>>95370723
>it's entirely possible for Horsecock guy to be completely civil apart from the dildo, and not yell horsecock at random people.

I mean, it might be possible in a *technical* sense, like it would be possible to cosplay as Pikachu and not shout Pikachu. Even if you don't say it, you probably have anyone who recognizes you yelling HORSECOCK down the hallway at you.

>>95370496
>offending people is the same as murdering a bunch of people.

Okay.

>>95370822
Perhaps, but the simple and undeniable fact is that compared to Nazis and death camps and all that, those things you mentioned are quite simply not that well know about or documented, or perhaps more accurately, not reported on to the same extent.

For instance, I didn't know about those things, not because I don't care or anything, but because I simply had not encountered them until now. I suspect this is not isolated to just me

>>95361506
the whole comic industry is a dumpster fire!!
i wanna watch it burn to the ground starting with marvel and conventions!!

>>95370449

You sound like you've never seen someone trying to troll people or take a joke too far. Hell, there are celebs that have done similar shit, like Ted Danson dressing up in blackface for an event, Lady Gaga making a career of wearing werid shit to trigger people.

>>95361619
SAUNDERS
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>>95370438
Not that guy, but you can't deny that most of the Red Skull cosplayers you see these days are wearing immaculate replica SS uniforms with some sort of crappy skeletal facemask as an afterthought. You can tell that they're just looking for an excuse to wear their Totenkopf division uniform somewhere that isn't a reenactment or neo-nazi meeting.

>>95371759
Whores

>>95370822
I think the difference is that Soviet society was never specifically geared towards the elimination of a certain group of people, whereas the Nazi society was. Basivally, the Soviets commited worse crimes, but the Nazi ideology is more repugnant.

>>95372098
>was never specifically geared towards the elimination of a certain group of people

the bourgeois and nobility, can't believe they even killed the dog too.

>>95371899
Most Red Skull cosplayers use the pullover and longcoat look because it can be thrown together for cheap while still looking accurate instead of dropping hundreds of dollars on repro SS kit. That's aside from the fact that I don't think I've ever seen more than three Red Skulls at the same con.

>>95372098

It's not just the Soviets, the Communist regimes across Asia have tended to be just as murderous.

But you're not taught about most of this in school, the way you're taught about how the Nazis were the most evil regime that ever was and every last one of them deserves to die for being a willing participant in Mengele-tier atrocities.

We're living in an age where we're indoctrinated to consider racism and prejudice as the worst things a human can do, so the Nazis killing people for racial reasons is considered worse than the Communists killing for political reasons.

/pol/ would probably say it also has a lot to do with who it was that the Nazis were killing, who it is that created Communism, and who it is that controls the media and entertainment industry. If you had that level of power, you'd probably want to crack down hard against an ideology that wants to kill you.

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>The board encapsulated by tumblr is for censorship

Who woulda thought

>>95365452
They have an ideology which glorifies weakness and inferiority. Why wouldn't he?

>>95372098
>>95372295
I believe that Nazism holds a special place as the nemesis ideology of western liberalism precisely because we have the epic tale of our heroic struggle against it: the Second World War. Communism; despite the greater scale of its atrocities and the fact that it's tenets require the total control of society, cannot hold the same place in our collective mythmaking because that struggle; the Cold War, was so long, gradual, and involved so many mistakes and backwards steps on our part. Thinking back on the struggle against communism reminds us of our own failures, while thinking back on the struggle against Nazism only assures us of our righteousness.

>>95370712
"The fact that most of the world is ignorant and uncaring about this enormous crime is proof that the global media is in the hands of the perpetrators".

>>95372098
>I think the difference is that Soviet society was never specifically geared towards the elimination of a certain group of people
As a Russian i have to say that you are FUCKING WRONG and they did exactly that. The slaughterfest of 1937 was just the bloodiest part of that.

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>>95361555

>>95372409
>is proof that the global media is in the hands of the perpetrators
No, it is just one part of the world largely doesn't give a damn about what happened in another 80 years ago.

>>95365956
It falls under freedom of expression

>>95372098
This is what ignorant commies actually believe

>>95361555
Lame attempt anon, I'm disappointed in your lack of effort.

>>95361555
Kek

>>95372583
This. People can cosplay as what they want to cosplay as.

>>95361506
just play as actual Nazis from Über or Hellboy instead.
No on a more serious not
fuck lefties and sjws for being so thin skinned and ruining everything.

>>95370470
Dude, he wasn't being serious.

>>95372382

That's a good point too, I hadn't considered the underlying psychology at play there.

>>95361506
From the thumbnail it looks like Red Skull slipped on some ice.

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>>95370712

>It may be because the soviets never actually did anything quite on the same level as the Nazis

Jesus Christ.

>>95371468

God damn you burgers have absolutely abysmal education.

>>95361506
Well, this is a terrible precedent. No more Nazi cosplays, and it won't be long before any cosplay someone could find offensive will be gone.

On the plus side, no more Hetalia cosplayers.

>>95370712
>1027% of my historical education comes from Spielberg movies

Read s fucking book you dunce

Appearently this was the policy already?

But it was strengthened thanks to complaints from SJWs:

https://archive.is/O30vC

Who also brag about snitching:

>Speaking of Rose City Comic Con, how ’bout them “ironic” nazis? Cosplayers wandering round in “satirical” (satirising what? This, as yet, remains unreported) Hello Kitty-branded Nazi officer uniforms. Our own Melissa Brinks, noting the stated policy quoted below, alerted con staff.

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>>95370948
I always wanted some backstory on Horsecock. Why does he seem so much more cohesive in thought than other Crossed? Was he some sort of genius before getting infected? Or was his non-Crossed state so debased that becoming Crossed wasn't much of a change? What's the source of his Crossed charisma?

>>95371468
Its because youre a fucking retard

>Ive never seen it so it doesnt exist

Fuckin kill yourself

>>95361506
RCCC seems to have been the "progressive/gay friendly" con this season.

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>>95361978
>Hydra had anything to do with Nazis before the past decade

>>95370712
Are you for real? Soviet Russia alone murdered 20-30 million of its own civilian population. Mao's China close to 100 million.

>>95362095
Joker cosplayers are still the most obnoxious.

>>95372991
It's stated the more fucked up you are before infection, the more cohesive you become as a crossed

In 100+, a serial rapist and murderer doesn't change at all because he was never right to being with

>>95372583
comic conventions are not run by the government

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>>95372098
>segregation is a worse ideology than forced starvation

(You)

>>95372430
>The slaughterfest of 1937
They just killed other Commies in 1937.

Before that they were killing off whole classes of people in the early 20s.

>>95364484
They do make their own fandoms and seperate shit in the industry.

It still gets invaded by retards.

>>95373136
Reminder that while the Finns held out honorably, they still had to cede land to the russkies, and no western country ever tried to help them take it back.

>>95372583
>>95365956

Please put comics down and read how the law system actual works.

You can dress up as RS at your home. You can't do so at an event hosted by a private entity. And you can't walk around town as RS as most areas have a law against masks of any kind in public areas.

Now if you want to walk around town in red face paint dressed as RS then you are free to do so.

>>95361555
>actually discussing comics is for nerds anyway
This, manga is the only worth while sequential art form anyway.

>>95373187
Well, Saruman himself did enlist and even was in Finland. War stopped before the unit he was a part of was at frontline.

>>95361581
>>95363623
>>95365301
lol
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/1/stormtrooper-costumes-banned-from-star-wars-themed/

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>>95361506
>Doesn't that mean that a bunch of other cosplays from other fictional works should be banned as well for the same reason?

Depends entirely on how much medication the organisers are on and what triggered them that day. Don't expect logic and reason from gommies.

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>>95373165
>they just killed other Commies in 1937
t. fallen for stalinist propaganda.
Loads of photos as well as list of executed were declassified after Butovo poligon were removed from FSB balance in 1990s, this being the youngest one shot there, 13 years old. Butovo poligon has 20 thousands buried in it, there were not nearly that many high ranked communists in Moscow in 1937. There are dozens of priests, the whole Baltic states embassies, 16 russian army generals (not red army - the russian army ones who fought at Great war, some turning to bolsheviks after) and just people from Moskow oblast (i found some from my hometown too - smalltime clerks from the locomotive factory charged with antisoviet agitatiom and being spies). And this is only Moscow - pretty much every major city have graves like it, still classified.

>>95373290
Fucking Ivy League graduates, the future leaders of our country, our best and brightest....

this does not bode well. Were they all raised in such coddled gated-communities that they can't even bear to see a movie badguy?

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>>95361506
Can vendors sell comics, posters & toys in the likeness of the Red Skull?

Can artists take commissions to draw the Red Skull?

Can table top gamers still play WWII games? Can they play Warhammer 40k?

This policy creates way more problems than it solves.

And the Hello Kitty Nazi guys are fucking hysterical.

>>95375810
By extension it should also include HYDRA and AIM, and any characters associated with the groups. The best thing to do about this policy would be to complain loudly and frequently about any IP that in some way can be linked to Nazis either thematically or aesthetically until their exclusion list takes up half the con programme.

>>95372484
I don't get how this is even remotely an appropriate response to the post. You didn't prove anon wrong, you just called him silly. You can't just whip out that image whenever you see something you don't like. Don't forget, Trump made a similar comment about the recent violence and the left got triggered by the comparison too.

>>95376454
>samefag
just leave anon, go back to tumblr

The generation that actually fought the Nazis had great fun laughing at people dressed as Nazis.

This generation complaining about Nazi regalia is just the garbage being shat out by American higher education who like to call everybody Nazis.

>>95376902
People tend to take things far more seriously if they're not directly connected to it. My friend once had a freakout over breaking some old cookware that his grandmother used constantly, his grandmother just shrugged because it was something she bought at Sears a few decades ago.

>>95373187
>and no western country ever tried to help them take it back.
Well the Brits and French made noises about it, but then Germany started chimping out.