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Why are there blacks in a comic book about 'the origin of

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Why are there blacks in a comic book about 'the origin of Santa Claus"? It's set in a Scandinavia-esque and is filled with Germanic customs for fuck's sake, why the fuck are blacks in that town? I thought Morrison was better than that.
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>>95351420
And it's not even just him, it's full of them!
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>>95351420
>>95351434
>Why are there historical inaccuracies in this story about a mythical man with a flying sleigh, which we decided is now pulled by wolves instead of reindeer because wolves are cooler?
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what's it like to be this racist
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>>95351514
second post becond post
op is a fag
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Maybe he's Sicilian?
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Nobody tell OP that Santa might not be real
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>>95351420
I cannot wait for the next civil war
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>>95351420

> people traveled to China over land for trade, passing through the middle east and many other foreign lands
> but there cant be anyone darker than fresh milk in Europe

Learn some history. People of different skin colors were not magically walled off from each other until the 1400s.
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>>95351420
They didn't call him BLACK Peter for nothing.

Relax, I'm sure it's just a guy in blackface
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>>95351679

>might not be


Definitely not after Lobo got done with him.
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>>95351696
I dont get this meme,one grant morrison is not "the left" half his work features stuff the supposed cabal of propaganda that controls all media would support

Also fucking how many people are reading the comic about santa claus origin story?How many of them are kids?Why pick such an inefficient way of indoctrining kids with indie comics that sell at most 50 000 issues per copy

Also how certain are you even if parents let there kids read Klaus or some 10 year old is for some reason an uber grant morrison fan that wants to read about santa when its not christmas,how certain are you the kids are white,doesnt pol meme the "le 50%" shit about the usa being non white?Wouldnt that mean less than half of the minuscule population of kids that allegedly read this book are white,what guarantee is there that the kids arent already surrounded by non whites why bother trying to convince them blacks are a normal thing when thry lived and grew up under a black president

In short why the fuck would they waste there term on this asinine plot?to conver the at most 4 white kids that read Klaus and have never seen blacks at all outside of comicbooks
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>>95352000
>dem trips

Nice
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>>95351696
Is this ironic or serious now, I cant tell anymore.
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>>95351420
>why do people travel
You're a fucking retard
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>>95352048
Nobody except /pol/ would use "White history" and "White culture" with a straight face.
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>>95352060
How so anon?
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>>95351696
>Complaining about a multicultural country supporting multiculturalism

Don't like it? Get out and move to Scandinavia.
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>>95352070
Because it's more accurate to say "European history", "American history", "German history", etc.

Using "white history" is just virtue signaling to white supremacists.
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>>95352049
>blacks
>in Scandinavia
>before electric blankets and heaters and the ability to easily terrain and snow
>ever
>at any point in recorded history
This picture is relevant enough to warrant your interest.
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>>95352070
"Whites" are actually a diverse set of smaller interconnected groups. Laymen and people who study history seriously would think the term racists and/or useless.
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>>95352000

>meme

It's not a meme. It's our putrid reality and you can see it in ALL of western media.

>>95352078

I'm not American, but the US should be what it was supposed to be - a whites only country. That's what made you great, and that's why you're declining now. Countries and civilizations are like leaves, the browner they get the closer they are to death.

>>95352100

Then what is black history?* Your argument is meaningless. White culture/history or however you want to phrase it is the proper term to use in this situation.

*it began when the Dindu tribe was discovered by whites
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>>95352123
>Santa
>Existing
>Magic being real

Imao id get the autism of a black was tje MC or santa but this is literally noghing but grant morrison just adding stuff to his made up world
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>>95351420
Fuck you OP, you are literally looking for shit to use as bait
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>>95352230
Okay its not a meme,now answer any of the questions I gave instead of nitpicking a phrase
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>>95352230
Black history is the history of a subset of the population in america,theres a reason why its black and not african history month,Americans learn about one subset of the populations history in the country not the inner workings of the Mutapa state or Tshaka Zulus rise and fall

"Whites" arent aalready global subset,a better term is european history and even then it falls into greater sub categories of french,bristish,prussian etc

As a white in SA we have a separate course for white history in the countries syllabus for shit like the first open heart surgery its not special for a minority group with long history to get some focus on there role in the overall countries history
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>>95352238
>Witchers
>Existing
>Magic being real

Imao id get the autism of a black was tje MC or o'dimm but this is literally noghing but daniel vavra just adding stuff to his made up world
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>>95352323
Yes..thats literally works for any piece of fiction,is spelling my qoute wrong supposed to dismiss it?
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>>95352123
in my college european history class we are learning that this guy is actually right, blacks were there since the beginning (mostly because of slavery, which is being erased by scandinavian revisionists)
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>>95352347
The point is, if it's retarded to get frustrated about why something that takes place in an alternate history isn't faithful to the real history, why isn't it also retarded to get frustrated (or, since you're probably going to say "I'm not mad", snide) when people point out the bullshit forced PC bologna?
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>>95352255

Which questions? The basic gist is this is corruption of our history, mythology, culture etc. with the explicit goal of genociding us. Things like that comic are a weapon, a poison, a political tool. Those kids you mention shouldn't be around blacks or see them in their lifetime because blacks should not be allowed in white countries. You merely stated another problem.

>>95352319

>As a white in SA

No way in hell can you be a white guy in SA and defend blacks, unless you're some kind of ultimate beta cuck. I actually worked with a guy from SA who managed to escape.
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>>95352393
That's straight bullshit. Right now, in the information era, we have Middle Easterners and Central Africans dying from hypothermia and a lack of vitamin D because the lack of warmth and sunlight is killing them off because their bodies are programmed for a different climate. Even today, with heaters, electric blankets, and vitamin supplements, they are still dying. How could it possibly make sense that they could survive even five hundred years ago without modern technology? Not only that, why would slavery be imported to Scandinavia, when the land is so rough there's not enough work to warrant needing slave labor outside of military conquest? "Scandinavian revisionism" my ass.
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>it's another #/pol/ruinsthethread
sigh...
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>>95352393

You are being indoctrinated, you aren't learning anything. Modern (((academia))) is nothing but indoctrination. It is wholly worthless and wholly antagonistic to the truth and fact. You will also notice that your (((teachers))) are peddling the same kind of anti-white bullshit that features in OP's comic.
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>>95352466
I never said i agreed with it, but it's becoming standardized academically peer approved history. it's just the way it is now, what can you do? if this is the objectively "correct" history chosen by nu-historians, what are we supposed to say? if i argue with it, i am labelled some terms i'm afraid to think of, much less repeat. i just go along with it.
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>I'm ok with a story about a fat guy with magic powers but if it's got black people that's where I draw the line
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>>95352462
1)why bother using an indie book read by at most 50 000 people to indoctrinate kids,the odds that a tenth of those readers are kids its unlikely as hell that there white or never exposed to blacks prior to a black kid in the background of a panel

2)Why is someone like grant morrison who gets railed at by lefties for shit he pulls with mary marvel or wonder women earth one,suddenly considered a member of a left wing brainwashing organisation

3)my family lives in cape town,studying at UCT overall a pretty nice place if you avoid street crime or arent arent a white farmer,the EFF are pretty racist but im not rural so it doesnt affect me
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>>95352507
The thread was ruined from the OP, this was never meant to be anymore than racebaiting
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>>95352395
But both this comic and the Witcher games are set in fictional universes, Daniel Vavra could add non-white people if he wanted. Why is adhering to historical accuracy so important to him on this point and not when dealing with; say, the presence of non-human races in his world?
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>>95352230
>the US should be what it was supposed to be - a whites only country.

You mean when all the religious whackjobs got thrown out of europe and decided to move into a non white country and murder everyone and make it their new clubhouse, right?

I just want to be sure you actually believe that genocide to steal land so a bunch of dudes could preach their crazyass brand of an already crazy religion could have it's own base of operations from which to poison the rest of the planet is what you're saying here.
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>>95351420
santa claus origins are in turkey.
if he can set the origin of a deiterranean fictional character in scandinavia he can well put a black man in there.

and people used to travel around you know.
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Well this thread is worthless,what are your overall thoughts on klaus,another Morrison classic,a good story or meh?
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>>95351420
Because progressive thinking invaded history like a bad meme, killing culture and trying to shut dowm hypocrecy. Blacks only nations in Africa are fine, white only nations in medieval North Europe is racist.
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>>95352616
I loved it, fantastic art and a fun story.
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>>95352545

1. This is just a single example that by itself means little but this shit is in every goddamn movie, comic, cartoon, story and so on.

2. I don't put much stock in the moral character of celebrities of any sort, nor do I care about Morrison's views. All of them are equally shit in my eyes.

3. In other words you live a sheltered life and don't give a crap about your own people. That's the pinnacle of treason and showcases a complete lack of character.
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>>95352462
So redpilled, i'm impressed. See what good does that knowledge once we get rid of your whities out of the face of earth. This comic is nothing compared with our new scheme... a black santa claus for 2019.

Send my regards to the dodo.
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>>95352230
>I'm not American
Then fuck off you international faggot. America is only for Americans.
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>>95352619
That's not the reason. Some black people travelled around a lot in the medieval era; while only a relative handful of white people did the same, because at that time the Islamic Empire and the Swahili City-States were relatively wealthy while Europe was relatively poor. Now that wasn't universally true; Venetian merchants travelled as far as China, but on the whole there were more merchants travelling around from North and East Africa than there were from Europe prior to the Age of Discovery.
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>>95352466
that's not how it works anon.
you don't need the sun to get vitamin D, because you get it from fresh meat and fish.
You need the sun to get vitamin D when your diet is composed mostly of grain and cereals.

And you don't die from hypothermia from living in a cold country. You need some weeks to get used to it, then you'll be just fine.

Right now, in the information era we have people like you being completely ignorant of what they're talking about, when they could have easily informed themselves before spouting bullshit. But what can you do.
>>95352507
this was a /pol/ thread from the start
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>>95352000
>talking to neo-Nazi tripfags
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>>95352521
Save white dicks from the (((bris))) menace
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>getting this butt blasted about a story about a person who doesn't even fucking exist being historically inaccurate
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>>95352462
There's something wrong with you.
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>>95352632
1)that doesnt answer the why part of the question,why bother in a medium that will reach maybe 5 or 6 kids

2)So morrisons writing habits dont matter on why he writes like he does?His personal interests make less sense than a global conspiracy to brain wash the few kids that read comics,indie comics and most of all about SANTA CLAUS when its not christmas or december

3)Not even gonna respond to that one
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These same people would flip their shit of a story set in Africa featured even one filthy white devil in the tribe lol
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>>95352723
You better be fucking glad that 4chan thinks linking to news sites and informational journals is spam, because I have ten links available to show you that immigrants are getting fucked up in Europe because of Vitamin D deficiency. You're the ignorant fucktard here willing to let people die from both misinformation and a lack of good information. You're like the fucking vegan parents who don't give their baby the nutrition it needs and then begs the nation to feel sympathy when they put her into a box before her first birthday.
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>>95352590

There was no non-white country in north America. Just stone age tribes. Flora and fauna.

While I agree that US protestantism has borne strange and poisoned fruit, I believe that Christianity, Judaism and Islam all worship the same demon, so to me this doesn't have the same impact. Though I agree that US protestantism is batshit insane and dangerous to the soul and mind.

However, religions come and go. The race stays. Why should I care about the Indians? They are a foreign people. Universal compassion is the only error of the white race. We are far too good to outsiders and this is clearly evident today. All those browns bitching and moaning about racism, le ebil whytes and so on would be shitting their guts out while smearing cow shit on their open wounds if it weren't for white imperialism. We made the world a better place for everyone, but somehow this ended up with blacks posting on the Internet about how bad they have it when a mere two hundred years ago they'd be screaming around fires and dying of malaria.

Kudos to East Asia. They learned everything they could, and if we go down they will rule the planet with an iron fist. They will not tolerate the kind of shit we put up with.
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>>95351420
Ur ye radge? Coz if yoo're radge, 'at makes yer story jobby, cheil.
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>>95352821
Most people on /co/ probably wouldn't care, especially since it's fiction.
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>>95352840
>I have ten links
>ten
HORY SHET
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>>95352864
>laughing and being condescending about letting people die because it would be racist to think they might have biological needs different from himself
I'm so fucking sick of /pol/ infecting everything. You have a containment board. Go back there.
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Can mods get this white pride world wide hothead outta here
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>>95352899
Why don't you just stop replying to him? He hasn't done anything outstanding.
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>inb4 200 replies without any meaningful discussion about the actual comic

The last klaus thread died at 17 replies,why does maybe 3/140 pages trigger co so much
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>>95352919
You gotta shit up a thread in order to get it nuked, with no pushback mods just let these retards keep going
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>>95352000
>I dont get this meme


You would if you ever lived under the Left before.
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>>95352926
99% sure the tripfag posted the OP so be could share screencaps of his EPIC SCHOOLING OF SJW RETARDS on r/The_Donald
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>>95352843
>Kudos to East Asia
What an asian cuck, go kys faggot.
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>>95352393
Slaves in that part of Europe were white.
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>>95352462
Ok grandpa go take your meds.
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>>95353029
Yeah right, you expect me to believe the word "slaves" derives from the same root as "Slav", who were a bunch of forced-labor serfs? Get outta here, hothead.
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>>95352319
Due to American cultural imperialism, things are not the way they describe it. International socialism is very much alive these days and a lot of people when they say "black lives matter" they talk about the world.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/sep/14/africa-us-haiti-climate-change-black-lives-matter
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>>95353086
>>95352319
YOU describe it.

The interracial power dynamics of USA are being projected on the ENTIRE WORLD.

That is why even in Czech Republic some people say we need to open doors due to being white, thus having used to have slaves, even though it is nonsense.That is why nobody ever brings up Islamic slave trade.
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>>95353067
You are confusing robota with slavery.

Slave was whoever got in debt or happened to lose a battle.
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>>95352319
All people in America can be divided into a subset.

It should just be American history not subdivided
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>>95352975

I've been doing this since before we had a /new/ board and /pol/ was in the distant future. And I've been here when we had /l/.

That was a long time ago. I have no use for reddit, yet alone reddit brownie points. I prefer these here trenches.

>>95353053

You will learn. Truth always wins.
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>>95352720
Which means finding 1 black person for every 100000 whites. I dont see how that is enough to change your history and fill Bohemia with blacks.
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>>95352230
Most people associate the term "black history" with black history month and all the fun stuff that comes with it. Can't say the same for the term "white history" blame society and blame yourselves for that. You people are the ones who want to make white history synonymous with Nazism and the confederacy.
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>>95352466
>Right now, in the information era, we have Middle Easterners and Central Africans dying from hypothermia and a lack of vitamin D because the lack of warmth and sunlight is killing them off because their bodies are programmed for a different climate. Even today, with heaters, electric blankets, and vitamin supplements, they are still dying
holy shit how can you be this stupid
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>>95352230
Ask a black person which part of Africa their ancestors came from (referring to the descendants of black slaves), they can't answer. Their culture was destroyed after a few generations of being slaves. That's why it's called black culture/history.
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>>95352466
Nigga you are a special kind of stupid.
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>>95353264
How does it feel that you wasted most of your life for "pro-white" changes with no change in sight? I hope the nukes hit your country first.
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>>95352581
Because it is not baseless fantasy. Nearly everything about the game is rooted heavily in myths and legends from his culture.

Those creatures are there because they are there in the fairy tales and folk lore told in that culture.

I don't mind there being people of different races and skin colours in fantasy during periods where it is unlikely or impossible for them to be there, but there is no reason for people to throw such a fit when a producer makes a fantasy game where there are only white people.

He isn't saying that other people weren't invented yet or something like that. It's just that this game doesn't have them, because the vast majority of the people during the time those legends were made didn't have any contact with foreigners and if they did they where mostly white.
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>>95352521
So you don't trust trained professionals because they aren't pushing a narrative you want and instead choose to remain in your ignorance because it makes you feel comfortable?

I really would like to see you debate a history professor.
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>>95352466
This guys probably thinks an Arabic/European child is an sterile mule. They're not different species, anon. Your understanding of "body programming" (i.e. genetics) is totally off.
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>>95352840
moron.
modern diet is mostly based on grain and cured meat. Not fresh meat and fish.

imbecile.

And if 4chan thinks your links are spam then they must be really shitty sites.

learn to read, idiot.

And people wouldn't move to live in scandinavia their whooe life. They travel, and spent a few years there at most, after they were already adults.
Dumbass.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2698592/

>farmed salmon had approximately 25% of the vitamin D content as wild salmon had.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4709837/
>The traditional Inuit diet in Greenland consists mainly of fish and marine mammals, rich in vitamin D.
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>>95353264
ok, so you are confirming that you made this thread with no intention of discussing comics but just as political propaganda, which shold go on /pol/ and not /co/.
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>>95353466
Post-60s African diaspora does exist and is quite different to your average "African America",
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>>95353506
But the "black" people in Witcher 3 are based on Middle Eastern traders, it's probably the least objectionable example possible
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>>95351420
>It's set in a Scandinavia-esque land

Is it set in actual Scandinavia?

No?

Then shut the fuck up and deal with it. You're like the morons on /tg/ complaining about black people in Innistrad.
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Eat a cock OP. If this had any historical value they would be Greek and other ethnicities of Anatolia before the Turks conquered the region.

Considering St. Nicholas lived in Asia Minor.
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>>95352581
He wants to.

There does not need to be any other reason. At least not in a society that values liberty.

The implication that one has to "justify" why there no white people is disturbing. Justify to whom? This is authoritarian thinking.

He is not entitled to customers. He does have a liberty to do what he wants and the market decide if it is also a financial success.
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>>95353578
I thought i made it clear that i was talking about descendants of slaves but apparently not
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>>95352884
You're the fucking /pol/yard. Shut the fuck up. You're using that obviously false vitamin D thing to push your narrative about "muh non-whites in white countries!"
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>>95353526
They should not be pushing any narrative.
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>>95353676
They're pushing objective truth because that's their job. You on the other hand want them to push some false /pol/ white pride shit.
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>>95353676
>[Grant Morrison] should not be pushing any narrative.
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>>95352606
>santa claus origins are in turkey.
He was Greek, and became known as Saint Nicholas. Besides, there have been other people in history who were going around giving toys, for one reason or another. He was not the only one (and his thing weren't toys anyway).
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>>95351420
>>95351434
Why isn't this thread about how no one is pointing out how noticeably evil the villain is. Really this story is so unbearable because of it. Fuck this crappy comic.
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>>95353768
the land he was from is curent turkey.
>He was not the only one
but he was the origin of santa claus.
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>>95351420
shitposting aside, I started reading Klaus because of this thread and I'm really enjoying it so far, thanks op.
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>>95353787
>villain is unironically, unsympathetically evil
>a bad thing
>m-muh deep and complex funny books
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>>95353590
Yes, on it's face there is nothing wrong with it. I have no problem with a racially diverse fantasy setting. If used properly it can lead to great and interesting story telling.

The problem is that there was pressure put on the studio to add this character when the game is basically "Polish myths and legends come to life while getting laid with everything that has two (or more) legs". Foreigners from that far away were so rare that they barely entered the general Polish myths and legends that most people were familiar with. Sure there was the odd trader from far off lands people talked about, but that was more a rarity for the folk lore and myths that were told during that time.

It is not tonally inconcistent for this game have a setting with only Polish people. There is nothing wrong with adding foreigners to the game, but it was absolutely not neccesary to do or wrong to leave them out. It just isn't that kind of game and that's okay.
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>>95353803
You do know Ottomans reigned over Greece and its "colonies" for close to 4 centuries, right? He resided in Asia Minor, but he was Greek, not Turkish.
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>>95351420
I can only imagine the intense triggering something like Unsounded must cause for you.
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>>95354031
Unsounded is a different world with internal consistences. I'm liberal but this multicultural past is bullshit. It's trying to wash history and no this isn't a factual retelling, but this is still taking part of the earth at the time. Have at least some basic historical accuracy.
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Is this comic selling itself as a retelling of the real world myth, or just a story of fantasy not!Santa in fantasy not!Scandinavia?
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>>95354670
Morrison described it as Santa Claus: Secret Origins, i.e. Santa as a superhero.
And that's what it ended up being.
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>>95352843
did you know africans came up with the idea of washing your ass? its an actual fact
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>>95354786
Why would they want to wash his ass? That's just weird.
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>>95351996
well he was already dead on the inside after what the warrior did to him
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>>95356395
forgot pic
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>>95351420
>>95351434
I'm pretty bummed that the redhead girl didn't reincarnate/was made into Mrs Klaus.
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