Why is Cyborg DC's official black guy? Why not John Stewart,

>>95336485
because they're too interesting.

They need someone that normies can understand between games of candy crush.

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>>95336537

i would distill that hot take further and say, he's a safe black man that everyone can like!

should have been Vixen.

>>95336537
>John Stewart
>Vixen
>interesting

Elaborate, please.

>>95336485
Why not have them all?

>>95336569
>>95336576
I don't know shit about Vixen but what I saw on Justice League, but her powers cool.

>>95336485
>John Stewart
Black Green Lantern
>Static Shock
that cartoon was for kids laugh out loud laughing face
>Vixen?
im offended by how this female is portrayed

>>95336485

one of them there bo duke dolls went up that there cereal lord fella; it worked its way through to his, I think doc didio called it his amy gag dilly dal or some such. well, its kinda lodged in there something powerful and that there cereal lord fella, he aint been the same since

>>95336485
>Why is Cyborg DC's official black guy?
Americans love football stories.

>>95336485
The other GL are more interesting than John and the rights to Static are weird. I don't know shit about Vixen so no clue there. I think he was chosen partially because of the Teen Titans television show helping to make him more popular and the fact that he is a 'smart black man' for being the main reason. He is as much of a brains hero as he is a braun.

>>95336485
>Static Shock

Yall know this is bait right?

>>95336485
They needed a minority for the film and a tech-based hero to try and appeal to the Iron Man crowd (even though the tech and the suit aren't what bring people to Iron Man films, RDJ is)

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>>95336485
>Why is Cyborg DC's official black guy?
Teen Titans cartoon fame and tech-oriented character.

>Why not John Stewart
Boring

>Static Shock
Don't wholly own the rights.

>or Vixen?
Now that's the question. But largely not her because the Justice League needs a tech guy that's not Batman.

>>95336485
Because teen titans was a popular cartoon. Jon is another lantern that would take away from hal, static wasn't as popular and vixen is a literally who.

>>95336485
Cyborg owns. He's cool. The only problem is they haven't done enough, he should honestly be pushed further. Have a new god nemesis that used to own his mother box, have him hack into the Watchtower to fight Starro as a space giant, he has so much potential they haven't used.

Maybe I don't like him,he's a little boring, but Cyborg has huge amounts of potential and he helps ground the team, at least by preventing Batman from being an unmatched supergenius. Really Cyborg fills two niches, the black guy and the tech guy

>>95336485
He was on their team in the old cartoons so he is on their team now

>>95336767
Then why not Steel?
Would have been better story with someone who admires Superman who really knows about tech.

>>95336834
Because they think people still remember that shitty movie with Shaq in it. Also, have you SEEN how they treat Superman characters? Steel doesn't deserve that.

>>95336728

why

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>>95336834
Ties to Superman, an existing League character, are too close. Also the Shaq movie.

>>95336822
>He was on their team in the old cartoons so he is on their team now
Which old cartoons?
He was mostly a Teen Titan first and became a JL member later but never in the old cartoons.
Since nu52 the are pushing the Cyborg JL founding member thing.

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>>95336900
>He was mostly a Teen Titan first and became a JL member later but never in the old cartoons.
He was in Superfriends.

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>>95336898
Maybe that's why they should bring him back to change these things instead of using some generic token black teen football guy who turned into a walking motherbox.

>>95336785

do they need a tech person? The animated cartoon didn't have one. Batman is good for identifying things but isn't supposed to be iron man so i see your point there but i don't think they need a tech guy.

>>95336925

oh look, he actually looks like a cyborg here, unlike in justice league.

>>95336952
>do they need a tech person?
Not really, but it's the 2010s so I understand the idea of needing a tech guy. I'm a giant Vixenfag so my opinion is biased.

>>95336944
Movie Execs don't go back and fix things. They ignore that it ever happened (until a fanbase grows that likes it as a joke) and move onto the next thing.

It's the same reason they dropped that Unite the Seven tagline the moment they realized Green Lantern was in the Justice League too.

>>95336485
>official black guy
>vixen
>black guy
she's a black woman.

>>95337073
That is sexiest. You don't know what gender (s)he/zi may be.

>>95337073
Isn't that even better?
Not one but 2 two women in the league and one of them is coloured.
At least some of the swj-cucks and tumblr bitches would like that.

>>95337136
she identify as a strong black woman who don't need no man.

John and Hal would be too many lanterns, /co/ would hate static just as much for the perceived sjwness of it and vixen would just be fap bait.

>>95336576
>Elaborate, please.

Translate as

>I GREW UP WATCHING DCAU AND THESE ARE THE ONLY ONES I KNOW.

>>95336925
Why isn't Dick in the League?

>>95337449
>Why isn't Dick in the League?
Titans.

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>>95337368
Vixen recently had her own cartoon and it was good. She was interesting .

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>>95336485
Because this show existed.

Serious question, save for Robin, would they have just faded into obscurity if not for this show?

>>95336864
I mean iv'e seen this posted in many threads. He didn't even bother changing the picture.

>>95337534

Yeah but you know that's not what OP meant

>>95336728
We talk about this all the time on /co/. Cyborg is cool but there are other better black superheroes that could be on League than him.

>>95337537
Probably not, if we're talking anout comics, but we're not are we?

>>95336485


because this anon>>95336925

Cyborg being in the league isn't new

>>95337588
Yet this thread has not suggested them

You can't have two green lanterns. That's confusing

>>95337624
But the Justice League does have two Green Lanterns right now.

>Why isn't John Stewart in the League?
Because of Hal Jordan, DC was going to kill him off in a event to make room for the new Arab GL but a writer got mad and quit because of that decision.
>>Why isn't Static in the League?
Legal issues with Milestone Media
>Why isn't Vixen in the League?
She is on the JLA and look how no one cares about it.
>Why isn't Steel in the League?
He's not his own hero like Cyborg (tied up with Superman). Enjoy having him play attentive boyfriend in the Superwoman comic.

Now the big question is "What about Black Lightning or Mr. Terrific?" Well they needed a tech hero and BL doesn't fit the bill and Mr. Terrific is JSA.

>>95336485
Are there rights issues with Static?

>>95336654
>The other GL are more interesting
Except Kyle and arguably Jessica when she stopped being Power Ring.

What is the appeal of Vixen?

>>95337818
see
>>95337368

>>95336485
>John Stewart
Same powerset as a whole group of characters. Is literally the backup's backup. He is known as John Stewart before he's known as Green Lantern.
>Static Shock
Could be a mess for them to deal with in the future.
>Vixen
Lmao unlike the other two she never had a leading role on a well-known animated show so I don't even know why you brought her up.

Cyborg had the Teen Titans nostalgia and a name that immediately told any audience unfamiliar with him what he was all about. Before anyone tries to use Steel just know that Cyborg is not associated with a shitty Shaq movie nor is his origin directly tied to a separate storyline for an in-universe long established hero's death.

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>>95337818
She has cool powers and has potential to be interesting .

>>95336485
>Why is Cyborg DC's official black guy?
Because he's also Robocock and therefore disabled/neutered

Because nu52 happened at a very inopportune time for him.

The League, The Titans, and even the fans were talking about how Cyborg should finally be promoted to the League before then, because he had been putting in his dues for ages and hadn't gotten anything for it. People didn't want him to be stuck as the "wise old mentor" always plugged into Titans Tower and people also wanted to see the fanfare of the first Titans-to-League advancement that didn't involve a legacy character. It would be a "The world AND the League needs a Flash" or "They need AN Arrow; doesn't matter what color"; it would be a kid who grew up and finally joined the big leagues.

But the advancement happened with nu52, so instead of it being a young hero turned pro by joined the ranks of the best of the best; it was a teenage member of a team of experienced heavy hitters.

He's getting the laurels of a version of himself that hasn't existed in years.

>>95336485
Yeah, why isn't Vixen DC'S black guy?

>>95337941
>potential to be interesting
not really

>>95337941
Her powers are the same as Animal Man and he's actually had good books.

Tell me more about this "potential" you see. What could be done to make her personality compelling?

>>95337941
>has potential to be interesting .
Almost every character has the same amount of potential to be interesting.

DC doesn't need a main black character.

>>95338028
You can do stories with someone with animal powers without all the hippie existential evolution bullshit.

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What if Bumblebee was pushed as DC black female superhero ?

>>95338128
She is for little girls.

>>95337537
Probably.

>>95338128
Little girls will grow up and want to read her comics so maybe she should be pushed.

>>95338084
Okay, you've subtracted traits...

Now tell me about the ones that would be present to make people want to read the book.

>>95337869
>Not Tied to a Shit Movie
Yet

>>95338349
The fact that it'll be the first time that non-leftists will see a character with those powers. Also, she'll be able to be beaten up and not Superman with a vagina like modern writers turned Wonder Woman into.

>>95336485
John ends up having people bitch about Hal.
Static is Milestone and thus his status is kinda murkey.
Vixen's got her tits out.
But the biggest reason is that Cyborg is already established in the mainstream. it's the Barbara Gordon loop all over again. He's who they use because he's the most popular, and he's the most popular because he's who they use.

>>95338394
People like characters for their *personalities*, anon. Give me something to work with here.

>>95337537
Plenty of comic book fans know who the rest of these characters are. That's like Marvel literally believing that no one remembers who the X-Men.

You really want to know why?
It's because he's got no dick. White America is terrified of black sexuality. Cyborg has no dick, so he's the safer choice.

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>Cyborg
>Vixen
>Static
tsk casual...

>>95338411
>not catching on to the fact that he literally wants to have her on the team to have a black woman beaten up

Vixen can't get a good personality because her writers have probably never actually talked to a black woman before.

Vixen would probably work best as an underground superhero that only blacks in the DCU are aware of (like how they wrote proto-Captain American in Marvel) who was a contemporary of older black superheroes who only does community outreach stuff because she got tied down by a family and doesn't believe that superheroics actually change anything.

No one likes cyborg, 90% of his "fanbase" actually like his teen titans version that is nothing like his comic, movie or game self

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>>95336485
>the teen titans cartoons
>was a jl member in the old cartoons
>always hinted at becoming a member of the jl in the comics
>johns probably liked him the most

At least we're past the crying over MM being replaced but holy shit when will people stop complaining. A character is being pushed harder than others and it happens all the time.

>>95338550
>>95337946
The two people in the thread who've actually read DC Comics are correct.

Cyborg has been pushed for years and it finally happening just coincided with a shit reboot that made it look undeserved.

>>95338494
>>not catching on to the fact that he literally wants to have her on the team to have a black woman beaten up

It's called sandbagging, my friend. No-selling. Knowing what the attention-seeker wants and not giving it to them.

>>95338462
He has a T on his face. A great big T!

>>95336485
why, you don't like sighborg?

>>95338550
>but holy shit when will people stop complaining

The wheel doesn't stop squeaking until it gets the grease.

Ever.

>>95336898
Why is it a bad thing for Steel to have relations to Superman, it would mean that Steel would have good interactions with at least one member of the League which is more than you can say for Cyborg

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He's very toyetic compared to other options, which helps.

>>95336485
His powers/abilities make it easy to take a LOT of narrative shortcuts. He can just magically tap into the internet and give them the info & impetus to go somewhere else after the latest macguffin.

>>95337941
>translation: she has tits and I have jungle fever

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DC really needs to create new original black superheroes and they need to be likable and interesting .

>>95338462
He belong to JSA.

>>95336485
>Why isn't Vixen DC's official Black guy.
>Why isn't Vixen a Black guy.

Gee Anon. I don't know.
I'm sure it has nothing to do with her rockin' set of tits, an ass you could bounce a quarter off of, and her distinctive lack of male genitalia.

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DC really needs to buy Static. He's the only black superhero I've seen people really like.

>>95336485
Reminder that during the Justice League cartoon where john Stewart was being used a good bit, the number one Halloween costume for young black boys was Green Lantern. They had a black character that was resonating with a black audience and they threw it away.

>>95339985
Static is just a poor man's Black Lightning.

>>95340071
Static is more popular than Black Lightning. I'm always seeing people wanting more Static this and Static that. I never see people wanting Black Lightning to show up. Static and Black Lightning have similar powers but there still different .

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If you want DC to push another black Super hero that's not Cyborg, support Black Lightning's new mini series and TV show to show DC he should be push instead of Cyborg .

>>95338550
>At least we're past the crying over MM being replaced but holy shit when will people stop complaining.
When Cyborg gets turned white.

>>95340296
why would I want DC to push another black Super hero?
I want good stories not matter if is a black, white or orange character.
Fuck the day I support a character because is from "x" color or some other bullshit reason while being a shitty comic

>>95336485
The same nostalgia fags who brought back Barry wanted to push Hal as GL. Static seems to have some problems with royalties attached to him. Wonder Woman already fulfills their magical chick quota. Cyborg got some exposure to the general public due to Teen Titans so they probably just ran with that.

>>95337537
>wrong filename
>JPEG pleb
Come on anon, are you even trying with that?

>>95340411
That sounds like you assume that black characters are only ever written shitty.

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>>95340411
>I want good stories not matter if is a black, white or orange character.
>>95340953
>That sounds like you assume that black characters are only ever written shitty

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Vixen really is the best choice and deserves a push over Cyborg

>>95336537
Fuck off cunt.

>>95340411
lets be honest here, there are existing black heroes but they often get over looked or outright ignored. There does need to be a believe able representation in modern comics and that extends to tv and film. they just tend to over do it.

>>95341146

she was meant to be on the league before cyborg but they ended up having to shelve her for a long time. I would have used her instead of cyborg in the film.

NT Cyborg> Static Shock cartoon> Black Lightning> John Stewart> Steel> Vixen> Invisible Kid 2> Thunder> Lightning> Mr Terrific> Rocket> Bumblebee> Bronze Tiger> Tyroc> Tempest> Herald> Aqualad 2> Static Shock comic> Icon> Hardware> Freedom Beast> Chunk> Jet> Amazing Man> JLCyborg> Duke

>>95340296
I'll support it only cause I like Black Lightning.

>>95336485
>Why not John Stewart
Because johns is a halfag.
Of course now we have two lanterns on the league so we could have had both of them all along.

>>95336620
Static shock was in a cartoon?

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>>95336485
>John Stewart
GL´s black sidekick? no way
>Static Shock
should be him but the legal issues are a bitch
>Vixen
not a black guy

>>95336641
I am going to pretend this is the reason from now on.
Better for my mental health.

>>95341571
He had his own cartoon and was in some other cartoons.

>>95336821
Fuck motherboxs
The motherbox origin for cyborg was a terrible idea.

>>95336485
It's simple. Cyborg is the most famous black DC characters. That's all there is to it. Teen Titans was significantly more popular than JLU and TTGO is currently running and very popular.

Static is owned by Milestone. Vixen's biggest roles have been as a recurring character in a cartoon from over a decade ago and in a web exclusive show nobody watched.

John would be the best second option but they'd prefer to have a white Green Lantern as it's a more safe option.

I really don't get why this is so hard for people to comprehend. A Hollywood studio will make the safest, least offensive decisions possible 100% of the time, and Cyborg is the safest possible black character they could include.

>>95337029
I still say unite the seven is an aquaman thing. Seven seas and all that.

Did vixen x bwana beast ever become a thing in comics canon?

>>95336537
Winrar

>>95341686
I don't think so but I could be wrong.

>>95336485
I'd argue that Cyborgs actually something that they are going to have more and more room to work with in more "realistic" plots going forward.

He's a tech hero in an age where everything is becoming more and more technological. Internet of things, Cyber war, Cyber Terror, "DEEP DARK WEB" etc. I can think of very few heroes that are becoming more relevant to the real world now than their inception in terms of powers. Vixen has nature powers that 99% of the time are just her doing things with an animal silhouette over her to illustrate what power she is using.

So he's established, in sync with modern times, his own IP (not tied to the GL mythos or Superman or whatever) and in terms of powers does something fairly unique within the league.

>>95341352
Seems like Duke should be lower somehow,

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Static is at least going to be in Young Justice.

>>95338028
She had a good part in his book though, which you would know if you actually read those books rather than parroting opinions about /co/

>>95336485
Because Teen Titans.

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>>95339194
Cyborg Rebirth has given us a Cyborg family, including this lovely lady.

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I think all of DC's black superheroes who aren't Cyborg should get push.

why not just a fucking nigger green lantern lmao

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>>95343040
>I think all of DC's superheroes who aren't part of the Batman mythos should get a push.
fixed
Also they should make Conjura a thing in the DCU

johns is a halfag

that's the only reason

tons of casuals know who stewart is, due to being the JL GL for almost a decade
black nerds know who jon stewart is
DCAU watchers know who stewart is
common was cast as stewart in miller's JL

the suits wanted stewart for diversity but johns wants hal on the JL, so he compromised and gave them shitborg. simple as that

black lightning is a better character (black electric meme aside)
mr. terrific is a better character

but halfags ruin everything

>>95338417
To be fair though that show really rocketted their popularity didn't it?

What's up with the John Stewart nostalgiafaggotry by DCAU kiddies? The only good GLs are Kilowog and Kyle. And Arisia

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Does MM count as black? I think his secret identity is a black dude

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>>95344108
No he doesn't, and generally it's not.

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>>95344166
I think they could get away with it tho

>all these people saying John Stewarts too uninteresting when normies don't read comics anyway
Stewart was a badass in justice League. Outside of comics what's Hal been in?

>>95343713
Nope.
If anything, it pissed off the only people who read the comics because they killed off the Outsiders and Young Justice comics to bring back the Teen Titans book.

Which none of the fanime fans read, because none of them know jack shit about the actual Teen Titans.

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>>95344166
Looks like YJ did it too

>>95340296
No one wants to read a mediocre book because it has your favorite character. Fuck off.

>>95344340
Young Justice did a lot of things wrong

>>95344166
John Jones is white but he was a black dude that worked on Pa Kent's farm. And a child in some South American shithole as well as a Japanese woman. He can be any ethnicity since he has hundreds of secret identities.

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>>95340071
>poor man's Black Lightning
>lots of poor black people

>>95337368
they were ore interesting in the shows, even BATB Vixen was interesting

>>95336485
>John Stewart
He's A Green Lantern, but not THE Green Lantern

>Static Shock
Owned by someone else, DC just licenses him

>Vixen
A woman? Ha ha ha. Oh, you silly millenials and your progressive-ism. Here sonny, have a nickel and get yourself a gumball.

Not disagreeing with you that John or Mari shouldn't be "the black person", but it makes sense why they aren't from an executive stand point. A cold, soulless, executive standpoint.

>>95345311
I thought that static was going to get his own dceu movie

>>95336485
John Stewart is not Hal Jordan

DC doesn't own Static Shock

Vixen is eh?

>>95338550
>jl member in the old cartoons

barely

Because of boo-yah.

>>95336620
>that cartoon was for kids laugh out loud laughing face
Don't most people know Cyborg from the Teen Titans cartoon? Both cartoons seem similar in tone.

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>>95336485
tfw a white-dominated industry prefers their main black representative to be more machine than man

>>95337624
I like every Lantern except Hal
he can fuck off
have a corps of fuck-ups with way too much power makes me laugh

>>95336485
Static, not Static Shock you doofus. And I'd rather he be a Teen Titan than a Leaguer, you're basically stripping him of some if his qualities.

Stewart and Vixen are both bland as shit and I'd dislike them if they were in Cyborg's place just as much if not more.

Cyborg actually gas some potential but DC keeps giving him to mediocre black guys to write.

I unironically love Steel and Mister Terrific

>>95341571
>Posts on /co/
>Doesn't know about the infamous static shock cartoon that had an episode about a school shooting and of course the immortal "my best friends gone because of you and your stupid racism, I hate you dad!"

>>95337537
Raven and Beast Boy would have, Starfire is too hot in the older comics

I miss Black Lightning

>>95337191
I think the league unironically needs two women. WW and Hawkgirl was great. I remember Black Canary and Mera was a good female companion / rival / notaguy friend to Wondy in the comics as well.

>>95347318
>And I'd rather he be a Teen Titan than a Leaguer, you're basically stripping him of some if his qualities.
Static shouldn't be on a team in general.

>>95338827
CYBERION

>John Stewart
DC's hardon for Hal is too big, they'll never let anyone else be the main GL (outside of killing Hal off in a publicity stunt event to be brought back a year later)

>Static Shock
A character created 24 years ago is far too modern for DC to put in the spotlight

>Vixen
An african woman whose ability is to imitate animals is waaay to potentially "problematic" for DC to put too much focus on, for fear of SJW outrage

Cyborg is just boring and irrelevant enough that he's perfect as the black representative of the DC universe.

>>95337786
JBird is more interesting than "I'M A MUHRINE".

>>95336537
why the hate for normal people?

>>95348585
I was salty about something else when I made that post desu
>>95336569
said it better

>>95336485
He's part of the Justice League, of which Batman, Superman, The Flash and Wonder Woman are also members. Household names for normies. Meanwhile Green Lantern is purposely excluded from the movie lineup, because he's still box office poison due to the Reynolds movie. John Stewart is a Green Lantern, ergo they exclude him.

>>95336485
>John Stewart
Because Geoff Johns really likes Hal Jordan.

>Static Shock
First of all, it's Static, second they don't own him completely.

>Vixen
She's a woman.

Cyborg was picked because he wasn't derivative of another character and his powers are dramatically different from the rest.

>>95336485
>Static Shock
this. please. more of him.

>>95349632
Oh yeah, and he was slightly more well-known than others thanks to the Teen Titans cartoon. Not by a lot, but every little bit helps.

Is Cyborg a popular DC character yet? I see him a lot in cartoons and videogames plus he's in the new justice league movie