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>that South Park controversy >Wander Over Yonder fandom

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>that South Park controversy
>Wander Over Yonder fandom actually made someone kill themselves
>SU came close but fell short

Where is western animation on the internet heading? Otakus are weird but they don't have a third world war every time a character comes out as gay or something.
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>>95241257
>>Wander Over Yonder fandom actually made someone kill themselves
what?
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>>95241257
>that South Park controversy

Which one?
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>>95241348
Im guessing its the skin color thing from the new game.
>>95241281
Tumblr got mad at someone, something about ships and phobias.
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>>95241257
American women are way too oversensitive. I blame them for all this.
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>>95241375
Nowadays if you have any connection to fandom drama when you an hero, it means "the fandom killed you"
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>>95241257

How many times has that actually happened, tho? Other than Yuri on Ice, virtually no mainstream anime has LGBT characters because the Japanese are anal about it.
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>>95241257
>Wander Over Yonder fandom actually made someone kill themselves

Source?
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>>95241413
>virtually no mainstream anime has LGBT characters because the Japanese are anal about it.
Ask me how I know you don't actually watch anime. Yaoi is a lot less common than Yuri but both of them happen quite frequently in Anime/Manga, compared to western shows.
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>>95241257
Huh? you have no source for the WoY drama. You are a liar and a faggot.
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>>95241257
>SU came close but fell short

of what?
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>>95241431
yaoi and yuri are basically porn and don't count. Yuri on Ice is a big deal because it's legitimate gay romance.
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>>95241516
>yaoi and yuri are basically porn and don't count.
Let me say it again: Ask me how I know you don't actually watch anime.
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>>95241474
Young girl draws Rose too thin, gets bullied into suicide but survives.
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>>95241389
* Western

They do this here in Britain too. As far as I know from experience, it goes on in mainland Europe too.
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>>95241431

Ah yes, porn OVAs count as "mainstream" now.

How many shounen or even shoujo can you think of that have any LGBT characters that are not crossdresser camps at best?
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>>95241413
If you ask me theres too much fag representation for those fujoshi thots
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>>95241257
otakus have been known to commit actual murder
Despite what CNN and tumblr have told you, people yelling on twitter isn't an act of violence
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>>95241281
https://queenbean03.tumblr.com/post/145858523788/i-am-dead-if-your-reading-this

It's... it's real...
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>>95241257
>SU fandom made someone attempt suicide
>everyone screams about it
>WOY made someone kill themselves for real
>nobody talks about it
Glad to know you people are still shit
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>>95241531
teasing and gaybaiting is one thing, but there really aren't many gay characters in anime. You're exposing that YOU actually don't watch anime like I do because you're trying to claim that gay characters are some frequent thing when they generally are forced into their own containment zones of pandering and fujo shit.
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>>95241257
>that South Park controversy
Which one? Be more specific.

>Wander Over Yonder fandom actually made someone kill themselves
Sound like bullshit

>SU came close but fell short
Again, be more specific, retard.
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>>95241573
Something, something, ebin Lord Hater quote.
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>>95241624
Also F
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>>95241389
>>95241546
No, anglos are all just fucking retarded. The rest of the western world is much less crazy, more civilized, more critical and definitely less uptight with weird hangups about the dumbest things.
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>>95241555
Love Stage!!
Junjou Romantica
Super Lovers
Doukyuusei

Those are the ones off the top of my head. Actual male-male romance, not even sexual. The amount of manga in this category is astonishing. Fujoshis aren't a meme on 4chan, they are real and they buy a fuck ton of BL, even non porn ones.

Don't even get me started on yuri. I'll just say Sakura Trick since that's the yuri equivalanet of Yuri on Ice.
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>>95241573
Here's more evidence to go with it

http://eeveelutionsforequality.tumblr.com/post/145989664577/our-admin-killed-themselves-on-behalf-of-this

http://peepsqueak.tumblr.com/post/145854526772/my-deepest-condolences

https://owner-of-wendys.tumblr.com/post/145891936124/the-news-just-broke-out-that-a-former-wander-over
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>>95241657
This. This is true.
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>>95241516
>yaoi and yuri are basically porn
What is shoujo ai and shounen ai
Fuck off already.
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>>95241657

Not wrong. There seems to be a tendency towards mass hysteria and lynchmobs in American culture.
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>>95241555
One of the most iconic anime made features lesbians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Girl_Utena
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>>95241694
exactly
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>>95241657
What is the migrant crisis? It has nothing to do with the Anglosphere except the U.K. being a potential destination.

France & Germany & Sweden definitely have social justice warriors, there are some in Russia and Brazil.
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>>95241573
What did she do? Draw a skinny Lord Hater? Made Wonder white?
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>>95241348
the one where they throw a passive aggressive bitch fit because president trump proved them wrong and made them look stupid.
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>>95241605
Lurk moar or learn to Google newfriend
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>>95241763
Nope.

Attacked for taste in shipping, her mental illnesses and real life problems, and her art skills.
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>>95241573
>>95241679
Fuck. Tumblr is weak.
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>>95241837
Safe spaces, mental illness, and witch-hunting mentality doesn't mix that well. It gravitates those with issues toward them expecting comfort and then they get gutted and thrown into the hellpit like the rest of them
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>>95241744
Please, just look back in time and you will realize that anglo fucks always get autistic and obsessive over things, you are ignoring things like conservative soccer moms.
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>>95241816
>shipping
Damn why do people get so butthurt about fictional pairings? I never got that.

Tumblr is a shit site.
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>>95241257
Didn't a guy who drew NTR (Cuckold) porn get his house set on fire?
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>>95241985
A good chunk of them are self-inserting as one of the characters and the other character is their ideal partner. An attack on the pairing is an attack on themselves in their crazy minds.
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>>95241257
Adults that watch children's cartoons are not the pinnacle of maturity or mental health. It's why "manchild" is an insult in the first place.
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>>95241985
Self insertion and a desire to be pandered to. It is a powerful thing.
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>>95241573
This sounds like Wander Over Yonder fandom was the least of her problems, but damn.
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>>95241744
>blaming like 3% of your population being immigrants on you being a sperg
Britcucks are pathetic lmao
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>>95241257
Obligatory
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>>95242125
My nigger.
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>>95241985
SJWs are the fault of why Tumblr can't do the thing that pretty much made them such a phenomenon in the first place.

Pairing got an age difference? Instant pedophilia! Pairing isn't gay? Instant homophobia! Headcanoning someone who is bi or straight when we headcannoned her as gay? Instant homophobia and lesbophobia! Pairing doesn't have the perfect relationship and has problems with each other constantly? Instant abuse! If your pairing has any of those above, we'll fucking attack you over it and antagonize, dox, and even paint you as something you're not over a fucking fictional pairing!
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>>95241516
>>95241555
>All /u/ and /y/ are porn
Oh, I get it. You're retarded.
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>>95242030
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>95242206
>Got his house cucked by fire
But in all seriousness, anyone will kill if they see it justified. They put needles in food for christ's sake
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>>95242095
Not that guy, but less than 50% of the English capital is made up of English people.
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>>95242257
Are you trying to say they're not anglos or they're actually foreign? Because if its the former that's what you get when you allow your former colonies to get british citizenship.
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>>95242256
>They put needles in food for christ's sake

Christ...
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>>95242030
Which one? I know a guy that does that shit and he is fine.
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>>95241573
Does Craig know?
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>>95242256
>They put needles in food for christ's sake
Oh yeah the one suppose fan who gave a fanartist a cookie as a gift. Then when the fanartist ate the cookie, they pierced their tongue and found it had needles in it.

All because that fanartists drew a couple they didn't like.

This is the sauce but I can't read Chinese
https://www.plurk.com/p/m80zjc
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>>95242419
Please don't. That poor man deserves peace.
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>>95242456
Fanatics are scary. They need to find another hobby to wage war on so people can draw and write in peace without worrying about the "message" or potential stalkers
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>>95242518
Can't they just use that energy to make porn like most people I know?
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>>95241837
>>95241679
Looks like she had a shitty life and was an unwanted pregnancy, can't say that it was just the fandom but just more her own existence.
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>>95242502
This. The dude's tired enough as it is.
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>>95242558
>energy
Energy, time, and motivation are three different things. Anyone can go online and get angry, it takes years to make art you don't immediately want to throw in the trash
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>>95242587
At lest half the planet is an unwanted pregnancy.
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>>95242687
Yeah but in her case she was told so every day, while other families accept and deal with it and not make it the child's problem. Pushing that shit onto a child will literally make them suicide, do them a favor and get an abortion instead of years of mental torture. I'd rather break my arm or any other bone than deal with mental pains.
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There is nothing wrong in punching Nazies.
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>>95242726
Back to tumblr with you.
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>>95241413
>virtually no mainstream anime has LGBT characters because the Japanese are anal about it.
Nigga are you fucking for real right now, fucking Utena, Sailor Moon, Cardcaptor Sakura, Ghost in the Shell, Yu Yu Hakusho, Jojo, and Evangelion all have explicitly LGBT characters not played for laughs just off of the top of my head. Have you ever even watched a single anime or are you just spouting bullshit
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>they don't have a third world war every time a character comes out as straight or something.

ftfy
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>>95241573
Dammit I was hoping it was Queenbean who killed herself. You got my hopes up.
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>>95242256
What was that bit Yoko Taro said? "You don't have to be crazy to kill someone, you just have to think you're right" ?
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>>95242899
I linked him to Utena and he quietly stopped responding. He doesn't watch anime at all, but wants to virtue signal on anonymous imageboards.
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>>95242178
He is japanese are more likely to use bl nl and gl and only use yaoi and yuri for porn.
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>>95242994
>Queenbean
Tell me about her
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>>95242456
Fun fact: This was over fucking Undertale shipping for Sans and Frisk.

https://takashi0.tumblr.com/post/163014878604/how-about-we-dont-hurt-real-people-over-fictional
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>>95241593
Only one of them pretends to be a bastion of morality and goodness surrounded by evil fascist nazis
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>>95241593
WOY is good though
>>95241975
Oh no. Soccer moms. Horrible.
>>95242125
>>95242903
This
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>>95243158
Kek. These guys people are stupid as fuck.
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>>95243055
Nutshell: Obese sjw obsessed with accusing everyone and everything of fatphobia
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>>95243263
>>95243177
WOY: The show is good, the fandom is shit
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>>95241593
In the second case WoY fandom has the least important part of it, tho it still terrible.
In the first case fandom intentionally bullied fanartist for a long time.

Also WoY fandom at least learned something.
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>>95241257
Don't forget that one Voltron:LD person who threaten to leak new season spoilers if they didn't get their gay OTP to happen
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>>95243372
Well, that is true for every fandom on Earth.
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I never thought I'd miss the days of fucking Zutara

At least Kataang vs Zutard arguments boiled down liking angsty bad boys over bald nice kid. 2017 Avatar ship wars would probably be something like KATAANG IS LITERALLY PEDOPHILIA AND RAPE!!
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>>95243586
Anglo Women. Never ever.
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>>95243373
Hardly matters since their show's already over. It'll gradually wither out anyway.
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>>95241597
just off the top of my head:
>ouran high school host club
>revolutionary girl utena
>sailor moon
>gravitation
>loveless
>YURI!!! On ice
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>>95242726
There's nothing wrong with punching commies either.
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>>95243586
These days the most popular ship would be Sokka x Zuko, and everything else be dammed.
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>>95241516
>Yuri on Ice is a big deal because it's legitimate gay romance.
No, they're not.
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>>95241657
>The rest of the western world
>Non anglos
lol
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>>95241744
>France & Germany & Sweden definitely have social justice warriors
I don't know about the other two, but outside of some very select group of people in Paris, social justice warriors just get laughed at in France
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>>95241257
>>95241573
>>95241679
Shit like this makes me glad anonymous boards desensitized me when I was younger
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>>95241985
>>Damn why do people get so butthurt about fictional pairings? I never got that.

They have a saying over there. "Fiction affects reality." You know how a decade or so ago, you had people thinking Grand Theft Auto and other violent games would make people (especially children) turn into violent psychopaths who would shoot up their schools?

The same controversy has come back, except focused on sexuality instead of violence. Did you draw a picture of a loli getting dicked? Your picture will turn people into pedophiles because a picture will convince them that it's ok. Did you write a Pinecest fanfic? Your fic will encourage people to rape their own siblings. Did you draw a white Connie? Your picture will turn people into racists. Any time you make bad content, the well-being of countless hypothetical people are in danger, and you must be stopped by any means necessary.

Sometimes I see the same type of arguments on 4chan, but I hope they're just shitposting or trolling.
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>>95244868
This place desensitize you to a lot of things.
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>>95243884
>Ouran
Where is the gays? And no Haruhi dressing like a boy doesn't count. Fuck off you know everything else was just teasing for girls.

>Utena/Sailor Moon
You gotta point

>Gravitation
Yaoi to a fucking T. Typical seme/uke

>Loveless
Again yaoishit

>YoI
So only 3 anime out of the 6 you pulled out of your ass. KYS
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>>95245057
>Sailor Moon
Haruka/Michiru, i guess.
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>>95245057
Refute >>95242899, fucking do it. Literally some of the most popular anime and manga series in history have outright LGBT characters.
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>>95245021
Not a "centrist" but both sides really are really bad. 4chan had a bunch of kids who stumbled on ironic edgy Nazi jokes here and decided it was cool to really be a real Nazi and kill people. Tumblr has people hunting down and violently assaulting kids in real life because they drew a picture they didn't like or like a ship they don't like (though really it's mostly because of jealousy with bullshit justifications slapped on). Both are ironically a problem with people taking Internet nonsense and fun way too seriously and far and are ultimately really caused by mental illness and a failure to treat it. These things are just unpleasant outgrowths and symptoms of a massive mental illness problem that's not being addressed.
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>>95245180
>it was cool to really be a real Nazi and kill people.

When did /pol/ did that? Are you talking of that shit with the Independence Day Raid?
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>>95244954
But I did read a Pinecest fanfic and it made me rape every set of twins in the whole world. Checkmate, atheists.
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>>95245236

It's not just a /pol/ thing there have been numerous cases of people who posted a lot to 4chan killing people. I don't think 4chan ever caused anything just like I don't think tumblr actually caused that other shit but I do think in both cases visiting the two sites didn't help people's mental illnesses and in some cases probably did make sick people worse.
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>>95243345

She used to be a major pest for the Loud House fans over there, since a lot of them like to waifu the girls in that show and ship them with Lincoln, so she was encouraging SJW LH fans to mass report various blogs with content that offended them so the blogs would get deleted.

>>95243586

Those were simpler times.
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>>95243158
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>>95243884
Ouran wasn't gay, the twins did shit to please the ladies, and Haruhi had no interest in other girls and just had a debt.
Also, 6... 6 out of thousands
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>>95241257

It's worth noting that the shit you're talking about apparently happens in anime fandoms here now, too, I hear it happens in for example YoI fandoms with harassment and all of this stuff, the problem is tumblr. Meanwhile the very same ships that cause outrage on tumblr don't get a peep against them in Westaboo fandoms. In fact, I heard a Voltron Westaboo artist got attacked by these types in real life and was totally blindsided. Sometimes you see Western fans attacking Eastern artists for either anime or Western animation fandoms with death threats, kys, etc. over ships or art or a million other tiny things and Eastern fans seem totally baffled by it.

The real problem is English speaking fans of any media from anywhere. Movies, tv, and books all also get this now.
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>>95245136
Easy you fucking queer.
>YYH
The anime downplayed to the extreme Itsuki and Sensui relationship from the manga.
>EVA
Kaworu is a fucking angel. Not to sound like tumblr, but you are inserting human qualities and concepts that might not apply to him
>Jojo
Only implications, try again
>CCS/SM/Utena
All fucking shojos show that have been doing this for decades.

But I will give you GitS.
But I can list 20 anime that make LGBT a joke. Want me to do it? It's not that fucking hard.
Get back to me when we have a gay protagonist in a shonen manga. It won't happen for the next few decades or unless Togashi says fuck it and makes the shotas faggots.
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>>95243158

>those people in the comments taking the side of the person who almost killed the artist
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>>95245057

>Where is the gays? And no Haruhi dressing like a boy doesn't count. Fuck off you know everything else was just teasing for girls.

Haruhi's dad is bisexual/working at a drag bar.
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>>95242125
Cyberbullying is real, but if someone kills themselves over tumblr, the problems probably begin at home.
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Some fandoms have videos of fans cutting themselves. There was a case of a copy cat, cutting for cutting. It didn't become a fandom wide epidemic, but I'm still not sure how uncommon it is.
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>>95242125
>comedian posts something ironically
>must be true
It's funny, but he's purposefully oversimplifying it to the point of where you calling someone and harassing them isn't bullying because you can hang up. It reduces bullying to wedgies and swirlies as if that's all it ever was.
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>Woy fandom killed someone!!
No you colossal faggots this chick offed herself because of her pre-existing suicidal tendencies and just so happened to be in the WOY fandom

Yeah she got anon hate but yall acting like it was any fault of the fandom
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>>95241413
There are way more LGBT anime and manga characters than LGBT western cartoon characters. But that's just a deflection. This issue has nothing to do with it.

It has more to do with cultures and politeness and what each culture tolerates. There is drama among otaku but people don't come out to proudly condone it. Let's say a woman stabs a girl because she drew her favorite character "wrong." In America a ton of 12 year old girls and much older women will proudly come to the stabber's defense. They will proudly and publicly claim that she was more than justified in stabbing a child and the only downside is that she didn't murder the child. When people act disgusted that they're calling for child murderover a doodle or arrest the stabber they will all scream that they are being oppressed and that it's not fair people are being mean to them or ever disagreeing with them.

No one from Japan will do this.
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>>95245823
Anyone who thinks suicide is the final solution after having a falling out with a fandom usually have baggage to begin with. While it can be brushed off as "the straw that broke the camel's back", it is still shitty behavior that can go nowhere but escalate into shoving needles into cookies because that's how shit works in mobs
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>>95245885
In Japan the dishonoured child would stab herself.
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>>95245624
>YYH
That's hardly an argument, it was still very explicit.
>Eva
I was referring to Maya Ibuki, not fucking Kaworu or Shinji's relationship with him
>Jojo
Dio is stated to be bi by Araki himself, that's hardly implications.
>It's a shoujo so it doesn't count
Fuck you that's not even an argument, that's waving your hand in dismissal.
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>>95245823
People always pull this bullshit. Some SU fans bullied a girl into trying to commit suicide and the entire fandom gets the blame. Some faggots write Anno death wishes so everyone that likes Eva wishes that Anno would die. Some IZ fans are so randumb XD hot topic shoppers so everyone that likes IZ is a 14 year old girl. Some homestuck fans spit in a bucket together in a restaurant so all homestuck fans are disgusting. On and on and on, constant generalizations that everyone that likes a show is x because y part of the fandom does something. Everything about fandoms is fucking cancer, from the fandoms themselves to the people that obsess over them. God damn it why can't people just fucking watch shit they enjoy and not watch shit that they don't.
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>>95246164
>Dio is stated to be bi by Araki himself,

No he wasn't. He is pretty much like Hisoka. The interview was done by some rabid yaoi bitch who was pretty much misleading Araki and it's obvious he was trying to get out of it by haphazardly agreeing.
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>>95246299
It's really just that a minority of fans are literally crazy and people generalize to all of them. But crazy fans are also often the loudest and often dominate online fandpm spaces. They're obsessive and have more time to devote to it than sane and more casual fans. So that's the perception people get of fans of something because it's more visanle than someone who just reads and enjoys a book, or even sometimes talks about it or males something for it online, instead people are more likely to remember those people who thought they were married to Harry Potter characters on the astral plane.
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>>95244954
It's shit like this that makes it harder for everyone in a fandom. Like I thought this was supposed to be fun, but nope. It somehow angered them in a way, that they choose to spew shit like this.
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>>95241573
>she ships dominator with launchpad mcquack
What
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>>95246489
kek.
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>>95244954

What's really stupid is the idea that fanfiction.net is creating all these child abusers. Sure, I'll bet that 99% of the people involved in international child trafficking spend most of their time on ff.net reading Harry Potter fanfic. And if they hadn't read that one coffee shop AU where a 35 year old Harry (remember making all the kids adults is pedo because pedos only like porn of adults. Which is what makes them pedo: liking porn and romance about only adults) marrying Mrs. Weasly they would have been completely normal.
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>>95246707
>Instead of handling the cause (childhood experiences), they attack the effect (HP fics)
Lovely
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>>95244954
>y'all

Why is talking like a retard okay when niggers do it?
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>>95241281
>>95241573
>>95241679
>A nerdy white woman who hasn't outgrown cartoons and refuses to stop drawing. 33, gray ace lesbian, cis, she/her pronouns. My other blogs are Ask Aquamarine and Bloodstone, Queenie Draws Stuff, and Safe Loud House.

Gee, no wonder she killed herself.
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>>95247211
Wrong user. goddess-mettaton was the victim, the link I posted was just a reblog I found since the original blog is gone.
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>>95247260
Oh. Thanks for clarifying.
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>>95241573
It's a cry for attention, they didn't actually kill themselves, they're just starved for sympathy.

Everyone calm the fuck down.

Even if it IS true, then good. It just means fewer adult-children shitting up the world.
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>>95241257
>WoY fandom actually made someone kill themselves

Of all the fandoms, not WoY...

We're supposed to actually like everyone. A majority of our reactions are like as pic follows.

Hell, even in this cesspool that is /co/ and 4chan the WoY threads were always comfy as fuck, with only a slight aftertaste of our usual tomfuckery.

Tumblr just needs to be shut down. It's become a breeding ground for instability and unhealthy mentalities.

Again, this is coming from fucking 4chan. How the fuck did we get here?
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>>95246299
Hey you forgot about the Korra fans who attacked a cosplayer who "tanned" her skin and then said she was lying to save face when she wrote a post about how it was her natural skin color and Korra's skin made her stop bleaching her skin.
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>>95244954
We tend to call out that saying over there.
Anyone using it gets shot down.
SJWs are a cult on tumblr and the majority of people would rather enjoy overusing memes than dealing with that cult anyway. However, we have to and that sucks. Think dealing with /pol/ but /pol/ doesn't have a containment site.
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>>95241257
None of those are as spectacular as Danny Phantom's killer tranny.
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>>95241257
they enjoy their hobby and let others enjoy it as they wish.

we must hate. it drives us.
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>>95247211
>gray ace lesbian
i wonder what THAT means...
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>>95241431
>few years ago
>animu billboard with two homo guys in a gay district
>some safe sex/youth help line PSA ad
>city asks them to tone it down or take it down
>it was the most wholesome sfw shit ever
>especially compared to the female animu tits they have on everything
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>>95241257
>Otakus are weird but they don't have a third world war every time a character comes out as gay or something.
>implying
http://goboiano.com/tokyo-ghoul-fans-demand-ishida-commit-suicide-after-new-chapter/
http://kotaku.com/a-thousand-death-threats-against-a-popular-anime-creato-631792221
you're joking right? why do you think its an unwritten rule that an MC main love interest must be pure or those idols must not have any boyfriends?
There was even that one manga or was it anime where there was adespised author who was hospitalized for a week and when he was discharged his house burned down due to arson
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>>95248406
their hate is thrown at the actual authors at least and not eachother. that's gotta count for SOMETHING
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>>95248457
Both groups bite the hand that feeds them, only different is if it's their content or someone else's content
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