Do the Muppets belong here? Been rewatching the original Muppet

yeah puppets are cartoons

I believe puppetry falls under animation by 4chan rules. Along with stop motion.

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>>95217890
I'm an old fag that grew up with The Muppet Show in the 70's. I looked forward to every friday night @ 7:30 pm to watch it. I've rewatched the shows a few times over the years and still enjoy it. It introduced me to Alice Cooper.

My favourite character is the Muppet News Flash guy. Man, that guy cracked me up as did Sam the Eagle. The Dr.Bob hospital sketchs and Pigs In Space segments were equally hilarious.

I thought The Muppets Tonight was ok, not as funny as the original though. I honestly thought it would have lasted longer than it did.

>>95217890
The Muppets are great but there's loads of skits that use dated material. The jokes are mostly simple puns and vaudeville so they don't age too badly, but the material to get there often is completely lost on anybody who doesn't have an incredibly wide variety of interests in art before the 1960's. The new Muppets material always straining to be current takes the wrong lesson, changing up the jokes and the characters, but there's definitely lots of Muppet material that wouldn't resonate with people if it were made today.

>>95218595

Yeah it's one of those shows that really hit that mark of fun for kids enjoyable for adults because it didn't pander or talk down to any one side. The Muppets have always been really good at that. Friends have been shitting on me for considering going to the concert saying it'll be all kids but I wouldn't be surprised if a majority of the people going are adults.

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Muppets are HAWT.

>>95219687

Don't sexualize the muppet

Let's talk about Yolanda. Why is she so perfect?

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>>95219928
Too bad.

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>>95219984
Forgot pic.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmQIzSF1yb0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nI7IfwLoBI

>They already recasted all of Steve Whitmire's puppets except Rizzo.

>>95220956

Kermit sounds pretty accurate at least

>>95221025
Does he though?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJufeAMRHy8

>>95221229

Yeah to be honest.

>>95220956
>Matt Vogel now preforms Big Bird and Kermit
HE'S UNSTOPPABLE

muppets are for babies

>>95221916

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byEzsFtV_Yo

>>95221229
He sounds more like Jim, more than Steve ever could

>>95222366
Singing-wise, it's debatable, but you need to get your ears checked if you think Kermit's speaking voice was anything like that in Henson's heyday: https://youtu.be/GBKpswoS8qw?t=109

For comparison's sake, here's Steve: https://youtu.be/GBKpswoS8qw?t=208

>>95221608
And considering how long he apprenticed under Carrol Spinney, his Big Bird is terrible.

>>95222621

Matt sounds more like early Henson Kermit, Steve sounds more like what Henson eventually developed Kermit into.

Matt has less of that energetic Kermit in him and more of that froggy, for lack of better word, sound in his throat.

>>95223403
>Matt has less of that energetic Kermit in him and more of that froggy, for lack of better word, sound in his throat.
Agreed. But since later Henson Kermit is what people remember most, I hope that Matt eventually finds that energy that Jim and Steve had.

that or Disney stops being such enormous faggots AND REHIRES STEVE WHITMIRE

>>95223680
>that or Disney stops being such enormous faggots AND REHIRES STEVE WHITMIRE
Disney pulled the Henson family card. They're not right, but that should let you know that they burned that bridge

>>95225420
The fact they went to the Henson Family, who has nothing to do with Disney now, paid them to bad mouth Steve, and now funds their projects is fucking scummy as shit.

>>95225454
or maybe Steve was an actual ass to work with

>>95225716
If he was, don't you think his co-workers would have said something since the fucking 70s?

>>95225716
He wasn't an ass just critical of bad decisions. And due to his particular contract situation he wouldn't do some appearances. Not out of spite but because he didn't want to accidentally step out of contract.

>>95225716
Except none of his former Muppet coworkers (excluding the Henson children) have said anything to that effect. To the contrary, current and former Muppet Studio employees like Mike Quinn (Nien Numb in SW: RotJ) and Pat Garret (choreographer for Christmas Carol and Treasure Island) have been sticking up for him in the comment section of his blog.

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>Steve Whitmire finally developed a character for pic related
>after almost 40 years
>someone else now plays him

>>95217890
yes. I'm not going to /tv/