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You know, I wouldn't give a shit about Bobby being a faggot,

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You know, I wouldn't give a shit about Bobby being a faggot, if they made it canon that Jean made him gay
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>>95175197
That's literally the only explanation that makes sense, without being a ridiculous retcon.
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>>95175197
Why did she do that exactly?
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>>95175701
He didn't have a crush on her and has never had a crush on her, he's always chasing after different women
He's the only male X-Man to ever ignore her
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>>95175197
nobody cares, closetfag
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>>95175197

I haven't followed the X-books in years. Does the new Iceman book focus on young or old Bobby? Did they make old Bobby gay, too, or is it just young Bobby?
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>>95175788
both of em are gay now. enjoy
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>>95175701
She realised that he was uncomfortable with his bisexual feelings and tried to help but overcompensated because she didn't think it through. She was still trying to help him but didn't know what she was doing.
I still think that the magic space mirror did in because he didn't want to be an elf.
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This is supposed to be a significant character moment and it's done with shitty repeating panels. I hate it.
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>>95175838

Okay, now I can see why people are upset.
How did they even do that?
>Young Bobby: "Jean said I'm gay."
>Old Bobby: "but I'm not. I'm not attracted to guys and have only ever dated women."
>Young Bobby: "I'm you, but I'm from the past, so you must be gay."
>Old Bobby: "Then I'm the Flaming Iceman! Where's the dicks at?"

Because Marvel has no idea how to do subtle anymore, if they ever did.
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>>95175197
Does anyone have the "you aint right" edit where its bobby hill instead?
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>>95175701
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>>95175733
And then he made the mistake of complimenting Magic in front of her. That was the last straw for her
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>>95176126
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>>95175197
I never realized they reused two panels three times each
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>>95175948
lellerskates
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>>95176103
>>95176126
>>95176145
Man I wish someone posted this to Bendis' twitter
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>>95175948
That's actually eerily close to what happened. There was a parody of it before the issue came out, and even that made 100% more sense.
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>>95176393
do it anon
do it
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>>95175197
Can someone post the page before this? I've seen this page a hundred times and I still can't imagine the context for this scene.
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>>95176393
because you are too much of a coward to do it
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>>95175281

Jean Grey is a menace. All mind readers should be gassed.
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>>95175197
Iceman used to be my favorite Xmen

Thanks to that Spiderman show

This is so degrading it feels like someone threw shit on my mouth
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>>95175733
>>95176078
I hope she'll get blackwashed in next movie.
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>>95176393
I don't have a twitter but I can give it try.
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>>95177746
You should post the whole thing, then. All five pages.
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>>95177824
Fine by me. Gonna make an account entirely for this anyway.
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>>95177824
There. I did it. Can't be arsed to search the whole thing, only posted those 3 pictures. I doubt he will answer anything, but whatever.
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>>95176393

I mean, what do you think he's going to do, retweet it?
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>>95178292
Meh, at best he blocks the thing or makes a passive aggressive remark.
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I hope Jean is turned into a lesbian nymphomaniac.
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>>95175197
>>95175281
>>95175701
>>95175958

Homophobes being this triggered.
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>>95179016

Claremont's writing X-men again?
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>>95179048
Sure bud. Sure.
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>>95175197
The worst thing about this page is that I still don't understand what is she supposed to be doing with her hands.
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>>95176145
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>>95175701
Easy mode is she just wanted a gay best friend, there weren't any around, and she picked the easiest target.
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>>95175948
I think the issue had Old Bobby coming out of the Closet saying basically "So are you going to be a Mutant AND a Gay!" giving the impression that he has always been gay but only tried to cover it up all this years.
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>>95179048
Priest handled Jericho's sexuality better, he actually set it up and addressed his bisexuality in a way that wasn't preachy or forceful.

And he did it in a way were Jericho actually asserted his own sexuality and not had him just go along with what other characters tell him.
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Jean literally spent that entire run reading people's mind then being told to stop. Reading people's mind, then being told to f*cking stop. Repeat x4. She was f*cking horrible.
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>>95182384
>f*cking
Fucking kill yourself, faggot.
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>>95182384
Didn't she recently force someone into following along with her plans?
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>>95183726
She did. Then the Cuckoos shut her down.
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ITT Faggots mad at gay representation in comics

You shitlords should be thankful you have a voice in comics now
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>>95179048

If this isn't bait, it's not about him being gay, it's about being a retardedly pointless retcon.

She may as well be saying,

"Bobby, your BLACK"
"AWW SHEEEET"
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>>95179048
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>>95183759

the cuckoos are stronger than jean?
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>>95183848
It seems they are stronger than this one.
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>>95183848
This is Pre-Phoenix Force Jean.
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>>95183789
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>>95183941
Thanks for that.
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They changed Beast into a sorcerer, and nobody said shit. They made Warren's wings out of fire which makes about no goddamn sense in terms of flying, but nobody said shit

But when it was revealed that Iceman is gay, and everybody got anal-annihilated over it.

It's not a outcry over character retconn. Obviously there's just a lot of folks out there that don't like gay people, and for that reason, it's important for stories like this to exist
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>>95184014
is that reddit spacing on purpouse you enormous fucking faggot?
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>>95184014
Cry me a river, you faggot.
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>>95184014
Is this bait? It's hard to tell with /co/mblr.
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>>95182691
no u
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>>95179651
lmfao
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>>95183780
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>>95179651
Who edited this? Is there more?
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>>95175197
>BABBY UR A FAGET

Bravo, Bendis.
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>>95184014

I know this is probably bait, but Beast becoming a wizard, and Warren getting fire wings are stupid changes, but they're changes that happen here in the present, they aren't retroactive.

If you got a new job tomorrow, or grew five extra heads, it wouldn't mean you always had that new job, or the extra heads.

But for Iceman, the change is that he was always gay and hiding it, all his past relationships, 50 years of his history, were all a lie, and if they can do that to him, they can do that to anyone else as well.

It's outcry over a character that was well-liked getting 50 years of his history destroyed. He's not the same character anymore, and never can be again.

The only way to have made this work for the older Iceman would to have made him bisexual, so as to not invalidate his past, and to make it a revelation to him as much as to anyone else, like he'd never felt that way before.
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>>95184549
>But for Iceman, the change is that he was always gay and hiding it, all his past relationships, 50 years of his history, were all a lie

Obviously there had been no prior mention of it, but it's still entirely plausible. Gay people hide their sexual orientation from people all the time. I'm sure you've heard of people being "in the closet" before.

Then there's the gay people who don't even know they're gay until they're like 24 and then they just start blowing dicks one day and never go back
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>>95184602
Not to mention there's an issue from like 20 years ago that is the most blatant "Bobby is gay and his parents don't approve" thing possible.

The only thing it was missing is "have you tried not being a mutant?"
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>>95179048
Wait. Why am I lumped in there? I was juat asking if anyone had the KOTH edit.
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>>95184677
Shut up, Nazi.
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>>95184014
Actually jean turning him gay came first. Then the other changes happened.
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>>95184549
There were a lot of fans who were already speculating his lust for cocks, though, all the way back. I'd not be surprised if this was even why he was picked for the job of being the gay token character, because they erroneously thought people would just go "ohhhh yeahhh I knew it all along", but people were too caught up with SJW instead.
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>>95175197
>Jean will never turn you gay
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>>95185038
CBR is insane so it thinks like that whereas most normal people gay or straight don't. I'm pissed because I already had gay characters i liked, like anole, who are now getting shuntted more. The only time making him gay would have been understandable during chuck austins run when he had northstar lusting over him.
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>>95185060

Damn I bet he was thinking about dicks cumming and stuff and Jean was just in his head observing the cumshot fantasies and the jiggling balls and whatnot

I wonder how that made her feel
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>>95185038
Yeah, and they speculated for a reason
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>>95175948
>>95180060
Except we've seen enough of Bobby's thoughts to know that he was actually attracted to the women he was in relationships with before, not just faking it.

Does Marvel really not understand that bisexuals are a thing?
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>>95175197
Nobody gives a shit about what you think. Iceman is gonna be gay forever now.
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>>95185793
Give it 5 years, this will all have blown over and they will pretend it didn't happen.
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anyone have that edit of adult Bobby getting his mindwiped by Jean?
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>>95185038
There is one panel in X Men #1 in the 60s where he doesn't give a fuck about jean showing up, and then literally every other panel he is in he is trying to fuck Jean and Lorna
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continuity in big 2 comics is loose on purpose so writers have flexability on how they can be written as stories.
getting upset over changes doesn't erase stories prior to any changes done later on.
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>>95186244
This one does and because he's gay now, no matter how fucking hackneyed it was it'll be undone.
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>>95184549
Being a bi sexual that Jean fucks with to make gay in some twisted sence of "helping" would have been brilliant... You know if they make her suffer for it eventually
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>>95186483
Except Jean making Iceman gay just because is retarded.
Fuck off with all this head canon
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>>95175197
Diversity & Comics
is that you?
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>>95186525
it's already retarded the way it is now.
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>>95184014
I get what you're saying here but it doesn't really add up.

It's more like if they made Beast a sorcerer after years of being a not-sorcerer who hates sorcerers and was incapable of being a sorcerer.
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>>95185864
It's been two years since this was published and is still discussed regularly every time someone mentions either Iceman or teen Jean Grey.
This is not something Marvel will just ignore and pretend it didn't happen. Expect Bobby to be gay in every adaptation from now on.
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>>95185864
That would cause a HUGE backlash against Marvel if they turn a gay character straight. They can't even kill him off now because SJW's would bitch about them killing their only gay character.
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>>95184677
Jerk
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>>95185864
>Give it 5 years, this will all have blown over and they will pretend it didn't happen.

I bet you think the O5 are going back to their own time any day now too
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>>95186735
>only gay character
how fucking casual are you?
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>>95179048
fuck you dick licker I'm a flaming fag and I think this is a stupid retcon
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>>95179048
>Everyone who does not think that all heterosexuals must be killed in concentration camps in a homophobe

yeah...
you better go back to Tumbl

or better
go to hell, Hitler is waiting
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>>95185682
Gay men don't believe in a bisexuality. And Bendis is a deeply closeted black cock enthusiast.
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>>95186771
Only relevant gay character, nobody likes Northstar, alternate worlds don't count and every x-girl is bisexual so they don't count.
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>>95187315
Except people do and he's not even the only gay character. This iceman book is doing cancellation numbers so clearly no one cares about this.
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>>95187088
>And Bendis is a deeply closeted black cock enthusiast.
>deeply closeted
dude
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I never get to post these but can someone post the edit of the entire seen with older Bobby too and him rejecting Jean making him gay?
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>>95187374
Bendis' love of Luke Cage's BBC isn't exactly subtle.
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>>95186367

Posting the third page without the first two? For shame. I didn't slave for like an hour over a hot Photoshop to produce three pages only to see it posted in this adulterated form.
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>>95187559
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>>95185573
If he already was a metphor for being a victim of prejudice then making him gay was redundant and destroyed any subtlety that helped him represent all minorities. They made him LESS diverse. And he's a gross stereotype that I hate as a gay person without shit taste
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>>95187677
What stereotype? Not being rude, just curious.
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>>95187768
>in the distant future, Marvel makes the brave choice of having a character declare that "I guess that gay thing was just a phase."
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>>95187361
Comic book sales don't mean shit. Iceman is Marvel's highest profile gay character. Northstar is not even close.
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>>95187768
Haha oh wow
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>>95187981
except he's not because almost no one likes it except a small group of people.
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>>95175197
Two questions:

Who cares that Iceman likes cock now?

And more importantly

Who cares about Iceman?
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>>95187981
Anon America is higher profile than Iceman these days.
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>>95188084
Irrelevant. You can't assure if most people like or dislike what they've done to Iceman. His book was going to flop anyways, gay or straight.

Fact is.. Iceman is Marvel most famous LGBT character now and there'll be a huge backslash if they ever say "hey it was all just a phase, he is actually straight guys". You KNOW there would be.
The best you can hope is to turn him bisexual.
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>>95188286
Who?
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>>95188324
except he's not. he's the most irrelevant O5 character.
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>>95188357
>More irrelevant than Angel
Impossiburu
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>>95188357
>What is Angel

Except this is not about the O5, this is about Marvel's other gay characters.
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>>95188389
somehow he is. it's why he's gay and not angel.
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>>95175197
It is canon, just look at your image.
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>>95179651
What's the original from?
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>>95188416
Naa it's still Angel. That's why they turn him into a horseman of Apocalypse, gave him cosmic wings and pair him with Psyclocke.
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>>95185573

There's no such thing as racist dads. Homophobia is the only existing prejudice. No father has ever disapproved of their child's heterosexual relationship on the basis of race.
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>>95187374
A closet having glass doors doesn't men it isn't a closet.
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>>95179048

That's not why I asked.

i never read the comic and i wanted an answer,
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>>95188518
But clearly Bobby only dated ethnic girls because they're the closest to men.
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>>95187712
Slutty fem hunting for the dick
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>>95185573
You are aware that mutants have always been a metaphor for someone different whether they be gay, a minority or whatever. His father there is presented as being a bigot and not just against mutants but other races as well. Hell the Purifiers are Catholic extremists who find mutants to be a sin. Sound familiar to something in reality? People who use stuff like this to say that there were hints of Bobby being gay are just reaching
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>>95188205
Icemans parents?
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>>95175701
The writer wanting a gay dude on the team. Instead of getting a new gay character or one that already existed, they just turned Iceman gay because it would cause a controversy to get attention.
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>>95184014
>there's just a lot of folks out there that don't like gay people, and for that reason, it's important for stories like this to exist
Yup after reading that i hate gays more than ever.
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>>95188488
Inhumans vs X-men, issue 03
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>>95183780
You're bait is weak youngling. You must lurk more.
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>>95175197
would gay conversion theerapy work in the marvel universe? if there are psychics with the power to fuck everything up then shouldnt they be able to change sexuality aswell?
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>>95189382

Probably.

That'd be a pretty good, fucked-up horror comic for 616. Some teen comic should do that.
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>>95189415
>horror comic
i can think of lots and lots of people who would love to see straight characters get brainwashed nto doing gay things
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>>95185573
This is retarded. You're retarded.
>>95187950
Just reveal what we already know, that Jean mindraped him.
>>95188831
Yeah, these comparisons exist but they don't mean every mutant is gay. Or like, a nigger.
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>>95189447
>Just reveal what we already know, that Jean mindraped him.
The head canon continues.
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>>95189447
>This is retarded. You're retarded.

Says the "Jean made Bobby gay" memester. End yourself.
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>>95188205
it's not that he likes cock, it's that he was completely rewritten to no longer liking vaginas and it's all done to turn him into a self-insert for the author
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>>95185864
No writer can undo this without it being a career suicide
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>>95184014
The Beast and Angel things are analogous to changes that happened to the real versions of the character. Beast drank some shit and turned furry. Angel got fucked up and turned into Death by Apocalypse. Young iceman being gay would be interesting if it wasn't dragged out of his mind by Jean and if it didn't make the real Iceman gay too.
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I never read too much classic X-Men, was older Jean as much of a raging psychopath as teen Jean? Dark Phoenix shit aside?
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>>95184602

In the real world, a person you've known for decades can be "in the closet", yes.

In comics, until it fell out of fashion in the 2000s, we got to read the thoughts of characters every issue.

We've all been able to read Bobby's mind since 1963. We know he wasn't gay because we saw his thoughts and feelings and knew he wasn't, because no-one was writing him as gay. They were writing him as genuinely being in love with Polaris, with Opal, and with his other girlfriends, and now we're expected to believe it was all a lie. Even in his own thoughts.
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>>95192019
Nah, she was mostly a sweetie. Only Time I recall her going off the handles was when Sabretooth really pissed her off and she wrecked his shit.
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>>95184644

You do realise that the story was "Bobby is a mutant and his parents don't approve" and it was a metaphor.

The Legacy Virus was another metaphor.

These things didn't mean mutants were actually gay, it was using mutants as a vehicle to explore issues of prejudice.

It's like when they did the first Genosha story as a metaphor for slavery and Apartheid, it didn't actually mean mutants were Black, except for the ones who actually were.
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>>95183789
Kek, this made my lunch
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>>95187559
>>95186367
The best part is that the real fourth page fits like a glove.
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>>95191721
Best they can do is have him come to the realization that he's bisexual. Not much of a change though considering Marvel seems to think that's a fancy way to say gay
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>>95193645
Didn't they explicitly define Herc as being Straight? Never gay or bisexual.
If anyone was going to be the pitcher to hot regardless of sex it would be the ancient greek hero.
>Captcha: BOTTOM CALLE

What the fuck is up with this company, they are all over the place with their bullshit
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>>95176145
>gayer than Steven Universe
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>>95188340
Exactly.
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>>95189439
I think he means that, in reverse.
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>>95193422
Did you know people can become so angry it gives them an erection? Because I didn't.
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>>95184549
I actually kinda like having young Beast as a sorcerer.
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>>95194058
>Didn't they explicitly define Herc as being Straight?
And gave him stupid pants. It was quite the beautiful day, all the people complaining about Bobby were also complaining about Herc, like it actually was the same and not just a phobic knee jerk reaction.
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>>95193645
Bisexuals don't exist in Marvel anymore.
Didn't you get the memo?
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>>95191721

This is why Marvel needs to force Bendis to atone by undoing this.
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>>95188663
>Italian
>ethnic
Poppa Drake was just old and holding grudges from WW2
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>>95185038

The "speculation" started in the old Usenet X-Men forum in the early 1990s, born out of gay readers wanting to see at least one of the team outed as gay. They liked Colossus and Havok more than they liked Iceman, but no-one could ever argue Alex or Piotr might be gay.

Their reasoning consisted of:

1) Bobby not having had a successful, lasting relationship, something which at the time, applied to every other X-Men character except Scott and Jean.

2) A scene where Emma Frost joked about suggesting Bobby find a new career as an interior-decorator, a "stereotypically gay" job, ignoring the context that she said it because he'd covered her office in ice.

3) Bobby having dated a Japanese woman. It was claimed that it was a common thing for gay men in the closet to date a foreign woman so they could explain any gay behaviour away with "you just don't understand American culture". I have no idea if this was ever a true thing or not, but since Opal Tanaka was raised in America, it's not like this ever made sense anyway.

TL:DR: The 'reasons' anyone ever thought Bobby might be gay were a mixture of lies, insanity, and deliberately misreading scenes, but gay readers were so desperate for a gay X-Man that it just became like a self-perpetuating meme amongst fans.
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>>95175733
Dig up and read through the original run (Where this Jean is from). Bobby constantly hit on Jean as did Hank and Warren. But Bobby was the youngest and least liked (by Jean). Originally she shut down the boys' advances in the presence of Xavier, whom was a super asshole back then and actively damping Jean's powers all the time. Jean might not even know she made Bobby gay because she doesn't have enough control of her powers to prevent subconscious manipulation of the people around her. It'll take her a decade before she develops that kind of control without Xavier's assistance.
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>>95193495

This is brilliant. Never seen this one before!
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>>95193495

fucking LOL
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>>95188535
okay but glass doors at least imply doors
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>>95193989
saved
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>>95175197

Shit like this makes me wonder if Jean made any of her teammates fuck each other in front of her and then erased their memories afterwards like nothing happened.
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>>95197015
its implied that the prof x and psylocke kept her in check
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Unrelated, but is Astonishing even worth checking out?

I'm actually enjoying Blue, I suspect that has more to due with Bunn, but hey.
Gold is alrightish. I like everything that isn't the plot. The art has been a bit dodgy though.
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>>95188663
>Italian
>ethnic
Seeley pls go
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>>95192019
Professor X kept her on the straight and narrow.
Modern teen-Jean and Dark Phoenix are what happens when no one is able to out the breaks on Jean.
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>>95187442
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>>95197364
>>95198295
man, I remember when Charlie had to encourage and even REMIND her to actually use her damn powers more, she was basically the most useless idiot before she croaked the first time
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>>95198716
That has now been retconned into Jean not wanting to upstage the boys and having to deal with them pout about it.
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>>95198355
who is this qt 3,14?
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>>95179594
making him gay

duhh
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>>95175197
people need to stop projecting their gay tendencies onto iceman
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>>95175197
>You know, I wouldn't give a shit about Bobby being a faggot, if they made it canon that Jean made him gay

Its the only explanation that makes sense. She made adult bobby gay to cover her tracks. Emma ignored it cause she was always annoyed by bobbies fantasies about her anyways.

Eventually Emma will turn them back not because its the right thing to do but because shes a narcissist and finally breaks down and admits its a positive for her that he does fantasize.
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>>95199524
Bendis's Rocket Raccoon
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>>95193495
>>95193422
>>95187571
>>95187559
There is a legitimately terrifying and hilarious story in here. If Marvel made it 16+, this series could be brilliant.

Hell, even the last panel of bobby here >>95175197 shows that somethings happening.

Marvel could be playing the long con here.
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>>95175197
lmao Icefags
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>>95175197
>>95202949
>Teen Jean going around mind-raping everyone
>Bringing out people's most perverted fantasies
>Making them enact them on each other and on her
>Then afterwards in a paroxysm of post-orgasmic guilt erasing their memories
>Keeps telling herself that she'll never do it again
>But she always does because it gets her off like nothing else in the entire universe
I never knew how much I wanted to read this until this thread. It really, really needs to be a Marvel MAX miniseries.
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I know you booty blasted queens think you are being either open minded in saying you aren't homophobes, you just hate the shitty way this was done (and, personally, I agree - IF they were going to do it, IT should have been "Bobby, you're bi-sexual"), but you are still protesting excessively over one thing, in the same manner and fashion that people protested Jimmy being black, Iris being black, Wally being black but insisting it had nothing to do with race, yadda yadda yadda.

In any event, you all look silly, stupid and ridiculous.
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>>95204861
just go back.
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>>95196763
I only think that's true of a minor subset of gay people. northstar was an asshole but i still preferred him. I'm gay and i hate this change because there are better people who are gay who deserve more of a focus.
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>>95188205
Nobody cared about Iceman until he became the target for writer stupidity. Which is probably why that writer thought the stupidity was acceptable.
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>>95186281
how does this change anything that has already happened prior to this?

writers have freedom to write characters as they want in stories.
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>>95175197

Yet another SJW pandering. It has to stop guys.

When will they learn, that the /co/ audience is mostly 10-40 year old white, slightly racist neckbeards?
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>>95205054
It also retcons his entire backstory. Listen I'm gay, I wouldn't mind more gay characters but I don't trust these people to do it. This is the definition of lazy and shitty.
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>>95187315
EVERY female in Marvel is bi-sexual. It's the word of god.
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>capeshit
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>>95205080
This post is operating under countless levels of irony.
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>>95199524
>,
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>>95175852
I like this theory the best.
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>>95205097
>It also retcons his entire backstory.
Only in the context of this comic, but I do agree that it's lazy and pointless as hell.
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>>95189175
That's because no one, not even the writers and editors of Marvel, remember that Angel is, and always was, gay. No retconning or evil bitch brainwashing needed.
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>>95205187
To clarify I would rather it not be a thing at all but gene misunderstanding bisexuality and thinking he was full gay is the udeal explanation.
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>>95175197
If this was past Jean Grey from a time when being gay wasn't acceptable... Why is she so keen on outing Bobby and telling him he should be proud of it?
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>>95189382
Absolutely. Remember that not only does Hypnosis work, so does brain washing, brain programming, magic (even Magic For Dummies), Dungeons & Dragons Magic, Hentai Magic, Deals with the Devil, Deals with the Angels, Spanish Fly, etc etc etc.

That isn't even touching on the reality changers. This Monday, you go to school and your class president is your average over achieving nerdy buy popular girl, but on Wednesday, some kid in your year has had a bit of a power awakening, and with a wild surge or reality change, your class president is now a 400 pound gorilla with the brain of that nerdy girl, and he's her best friend who saved her life when she was just by transplanting her brain into a handy gorilla corpse when she was 8 and about to have her body completely eaten by a super magic zombie bacteria from Dimension X314. By next Tuesday, another reality flux ends up making Dr. Doom the teenager as your class president, and suddenly Reed Richards the Teenager is now your best friend and uber class nerd.

Marvel is rough on the civies. Everything is constantly in flux. And even without the reality mashers and the brain benders, there's all the alien shapeshifter/body snatcher invasions constantly happening.

Marvel is literally hell for any civilian without super powers.
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>>95191721
Are you kidding? You just reveal that Jean was infected with a nasty psychic demon and she went around brain washing everyone with "amusing" traits--- making straight guys gay, making kids into kleptos, making people into Nazis, etc etc etc.

Heck, Marvel has done this with other characters. There's nothing them from stopping making Jean into a villain of a few arcs and retconning some retcons. After all, Marvel has MANY gay and bisexual characters that started that way. Some of them actually did big things in the stories even.
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>>95192019
Well, you gotta remember that in early X-Men, Prof X regularly mind raped everyone and it was heavily implied he was plowing the hell out of Jean, both physically and constantly mentally for years.

Early X-Men is dark as hell.
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>>95205231
She's from like 2007. Bitch probably got a DVD box set of Queer Eye before Beast sucked them into the future that is modern Marvel.
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>>95205316
There's a difference between a normal retconn and retconning a character's sexuality or race. That's like if they revealed Luke Cage was actually white all along, SJW's would throw a fit.
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>>95175197
>>95175281
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCfPbTSNi8k
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>>95198355
Of course Rocket is gay. He likes the morning wood, the evening wood, and the middle of the night wood. Rocket really loves the wood.
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>>95196801

>Xavier, whom was a super asshole back then and actively damping Jean's powers all the time.

Yeah, what a prick, preventing Jean from bursting into flames this whole time. No, really. Dickhead.
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>>95205355
Er, they just RETCONNED Bobby as gay. So apparently, it isn't a big deal to them.

Retconning it again is also not a big deal. Hell, afterward, just say that now the Bobbi is back to being "unbrainwashed" after the retconning/reconfiguring, while he acts super macho straight in front of the public, he's actually either bisexual or strongly bi-curious and is willing to try a real gay relationship if he can just find that right someone to click with.

Its not like bi-curious isn't a real thing.

AND having an "evil Jean" brainwashing people would justify a lot of the mutie hate in Marvel. Your neighbor girl is a telepath? Watch out--- she might make you buy her every episode of "one lone tree" then have a mad gay threeway with her dad and her ex-boyfriend that just tried to break up with her for being a clingy demanding cunt.

Remember, less than 2% of the population is gay or bi, so if they get their little panties in a wad over something in a kid's comic, good. That's just more publicity for your dieing industry. Maybe Marvel would sell a couple of tens of thousands more floppies then.
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>>95205503

>would justify a lot of the mutie hate in Marvel

The mutant hate is justified in Marvel
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>>95205419
Go back and check out the early X-Men. Professor is CONSTANTLY mind raping people--- parents and students alike. He makes some parents forget they have a kid. He makes some of his students forget they are brother and sister. He makes them forget all sorts of things--- from trivial things to very important things. And he even does it to his prized X-Men. Prof constantly throwing around his mental dick and arranging life just how he wants it. Including arranging to have his own absolutely devoted 12 year old personal maid who would do ANYTHING for him.

Early X-Men had tons of dark stuff and showed that mutants should be constantly feared by even their fellow mutants.
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>>95205550

I wasn't disagreeing with you. Him saving Jean is just icing on the shit cake.
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.this idiotic thread yet again
You faggots need to move on already. None of you actually gave a shit about the character before and you sure don't know.
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>>95176145
>Gayer than Steven Universe
>I don't know who that is
Top keks
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>>95184014
Try outing a closet homo in public and lets see if he actually likes you for doing that.
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>>95207092
i've seen better edits on imigur
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>>95207092
lol
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>>95185133
good.
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>>95177453
Nah, they'd never make a redhead black. That would just be we--

What?

Oh.

Oh...
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>>95207092
This art is a fucking war crime.
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>>95204044
I'll pitch it to Avatar.
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>>95197916
Please respond
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>>95205332
>Prof X regularly mind raped everyone and it was heavily implied he was plowing the hell out of Jean, both physically and constantly mentally for years.
DELET
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>>95197916
>>95209754
If you like X-Men shit, you'll like any X-Men shit. Marvel has proven that time and time again.

So yes goyim, it's a great book. Buy it!
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>>95197916

It's just started, but so far it strikes me as better than any of the other X-Men ongoings. Great cast of characters, solid premise, great art, solid characterization and good respect for continuity. It all feels solid so far. We'll see how it pans out.
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>>95209830
Yeah, that's why they're doing so fine, right?
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>>95211101
>great art
>Cheung
Really?
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