Is it safe to say generation Y/Millennials likes cartoons and

> more open to childish things

infantile

fxd

>>95100190
the cut off for Gen X keeps seeming to shift. Sometimes I'm tail end other times I'm out of it. still, by this chart I fit X much more than Y cause I grew up with Atari, Commodore 64, BBS's and all the very early personal computing

and IDK, I think Gen X really like comics and cartoons. it was the first generation of people who lived in an era when there were prominent adult cartoons and comics. I first saw Heavy Metal when I was about 10-12 years old and it made me look at cartoons completely different

>>95100233
>the cut off for Gen X keeps seeming to shift
There is no rock solid time for these things. It's mostly just measured in "shit that happened during their developing years"

>>95100233
These sort of things are weird. I see '79/'80/'81 as the cutoff point for gen x usually, but I've also seen it go as far as '85. I'm '84 myself, and I definitely fit into a few of the gen x experiences as well as gen y/millenial.

>>95100190
gen Y (also known as the millennials) goes from 81 to 99. Either that or a lot of the 'formative experiences' needs to be moved into Gen Z

>>95100190
>google glass
yeah, like anyone cares about that

>>95100190
>Digital natives

Y is the best gen. in that regard. Born in the era where technology really started its domination of the world, so we can handle it easily; but we still went to the playgronud and had fun there so we're not entirely dependent on it.

>>95100496
>Born in the era where technology really started its domination of the world
nah, too many Y don't know how to build computers cause they came pre-built for them. And most gen Y don't know how to program. When the first computers came out you HAD to learn to program or you couldn't use the computer

>>95100190
Every time I see something like this, I want to be considered Generation X. I grew up in the late 80s / early 90s, and I'd rather be lumped in with X than those currently described as millennials. I fit X more than Y according to the chart anyway.

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>>95100371
>>95100248
>shit that happened during their developing years
If this was true, people born in 1981, 1982, and 1983 wouldn't be considered millenials, since they're already adults by 2001 (lol calender mishap!)
Most people in my age range were still experiencing that whole Cold War mentality at school and experienced the wall falling down live on TV with working memories and understanding of it.
TV and magazines, and almost all research/studies, were calling us latch key kids at the time.

The first people to even invent the term and study Gen X considered the years until 1984 or 85. For the Gen Y term, the term was coined for those born in 1982 and after.

Then all of a sudden, over the years, the terms became broadened and terminology shifted, to the point that most people my age don't identify with either Y or X (but mostly with X).
So a new term was created called "The Oregon Trail Generation"

There's a pretty clear divide even when it comes to using technology, since you can see which Class Reunion groups use facebook or other school groups to make that shit happen. There's a smattering of people in pre-2003 and it really doesn't open up to a large percentage of the class until 2004.

Also, how can Generation X be part of Generation X if they were supposed to be 13-17 year olds when this comic happened in 1994?

tl;dr: marketters who broadened the terms don't research shit, so most companies have their own date ranges.

>>95100620
The anon born in '84 here. I've heard of the Oregon Trail or Xennial label before too, and honestly, that's probably what fits me best. I did play Oregon Trail in elementary and middle school in school. While I took computer classes in school, I didn't have my own computer at home until '98 or '99. I didn't even see one in someones home until '94 or '95, at my aunts house and at a friends house from school. So I think that makes me more of a "digital immigrant" than digital native". I also fall into the high divorce rate, and grew up on gangsta rap and grunge and alternative rock. In my teen years, it shifted to nu-metal and pop shit in the mainstream. I see a lot of millennials get nostalgic for stuff that came out after I was out of high school.

I'd be interested in what comics were like for the generation divide. Like how readily available they were, etc. As a kid, I could buy comics off the rack at drug stores, Wal-Mart, and convenience stores. My tiny town had a comic shop, that eventually closed down in the late 90's.

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>>95100663
I feel ya.... except for that computer thing.

I was a digital native since 1984, when i learned my letters.
Had an actual IBM, none of that PC bullshit that are nothing but IBM-clones like Dells and Gateways.
I didn't know what a mouse was until 1993 and i certainly didn't use it for Doom. I got online in 1994 and i still have working email accounts since 1995. Yep, fucking older than the majority of /co/.
Since 1995 i wondered why the fuck aren't there places where you can read comics online? Fucking bandwidth was fucking expensive back then, where the most popular music files were RA (real audio) and fucking midis. Fucking had to do FTPing and trading to DL cartoons from private servers in amazing 320x240 resolution! I still have a bunch of CDRs full of cartoons and anime from my night-long trading sessions.
No fucking comics though!

I was just talking with an ex the other day who was born your year and how silly it is to contact each other over facebook, and how amazing the internet has become since we broke up. No longer are we finding music using a bunch of different sharing programs and IRC to find that rare song we heard on the radio once. Fucking youtube exploded and all my hard work in the 90s was all for naught.

Also, I don't understand Spongebob and the Simpsons spoke to me like nothing else.

>>95100797
Yeah even in the early 2000s, til like maybe 2002 or 2003, I was still on dial up, so I can remember taking two or three hours to download a music video off of IRC in glorious 320x240. And like you, I still have that shit burned onto CD-Rs in my room. I think a divider too is messageboards vs social media. Messageboards were still huge when I was online, but the shift towards social media has sadly killed so many of them. I miss that sorta not full on anonymity, but semi-anonymity anyway. People making multiple accounts to troll and shitpost. Other people choosing to actually show their face, but posting for years before they did, so people speculated on what they looked like. 4chan and imageboards are like the last bastion of messageboard culture, it seems.

>Also, I don't understand Spongebob and the Simpsons spoke to me like nothing else.

Same here. God, The Simpsons was such a cultural phenomenon in the early 90's. I remember my brother having a Bart Simpson "Don't have a cow, man" shirt.

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>YOUNG GENERATION BAD
>OLD GENERATION GOOD

>>95100869
>voted politicians who cut education spending

I can't tell if this helps or hurts their point.

>>95100797
I was born 82. And I did play Doom, cause me and my buddy made bootdisks of it so we could play it on the school computers, since it was considered a 'bad game'. Since we knew far more about computers than any teach did we could get away with this easily.

I never found comics online either, but I liked the FTP boards you'd find with music, text books, tv shows (though not much cause bandwidth was low). I still have a ton of midi music from then, and I still enjoy it. One of the cool things from back then was I ripped an entire site of guitar tabs (it was taken down cause some BS about lyrics being copywrite infingement, they don't care about it now), nearly every song you could find from 95 and back.

The Internet was a lot more free back then, didn't have all these stupid sites like Facebook. And you could spend an entire day just exploring one shitty site to the next. It was a playground in those days, never knew where you were going to end up.

And fuck, do I miss those old BBS's. Anyone here remember playing LORD?

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>>95100869
I don't necessarily agree with that, but looking at my nephews, they're incredibly insular.
They only look at what THEY themselves want to look at. So for comics and cartoons, there is nothing else except their own interests because there is practically a near infinite amount of resources to get EXACTLY what they want.

When i was growing up, I could only watch what was on broadcast TV. I could only read what my brothers or dad had. OR i could go on over to the library and go through the limited amount of resources they had (definitely no comics!).
So what was on TV? A bunch of old shows and cartoons from the 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, and last year from the 1985.
When we got cable, almost all cable stations showed nothing but reruns and old movies, so I got to experience everything every generation before me enjoyed.

So when dated as fuck shit like this came out, i understood every fucking reference (or eventually would), and laughed.

So i got to know a lot about every generation before me, what their likes were, what they were experiencing, their troubles, worries, because it was either watch their media or get so fucking bored i had to go outside and play in the fresh air... or down the street to the arcade.

My nephews have no idea what life was like before instant entertainment and instant information, because they don't need to fucking ever learn about it, unless their parents tell them.
I told one of my nieces and she thought it must have been hell and imagined it was like i was some starving somalian in a wasteland.

So i don't think she's a bad person or her generation is bad, but they are growing up to be far more insular than any generation before them since at least when the radio was invented and spread through the masses

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>>95100857
I think facebook, or almost all everyone using only the major websites 95% of the time, killed our identity.

It's way way way more of a collective today than before, where I identified myself as a VGLer, GAFfer, LNC, etc depending on whatever group was active. There were a ton of groups back then and there was no way to really pin someone down as anything based on where you went.
It's so fucking easy now and ACCEPTED to pigeonhole someone now based on what website they use.

>>95100897
comics were very hard to find online until someone started spreading those Marvel comic collection discs and images around.
Rare as fuck to find someone back then who had it and i regret never picking them up when i saw them at costco, but they slowly spread... very fucking slowly.

I'm not sure if i miss the internet from back then. There was literal exploration going on to find some place new, but there wasn't a lot of content. Content is king.
I only miss the "world" being far larger and unknown. I'm not a fan of being only part of this 4chan collective, because of the incredible shrinkage of "indie" sites.

It's sad that despite all this fucking content, this newer generation mostly just sticks to their own interests and actually has to go out of their way to learn something else.
Back in my day, it was the opposite, because to stay within my own interests, i had to physically create a place or group to stay with my interests and this took a lot of time/effort.

>>95101014
That's the exact same problem I've found this new generation to have

But I've had the opposite reaction to the internet

Let me explain. You see, I'm of one of the last batches of my country's millenials. Soon, everyone of the age when eating sugar right off the spoon sounds like a good idea will be of Generation Z

So, I lived for a short time before the internet reached/infested my home, and being middle class in my part of the world, I wasn't allowed out very often, and thus, I had neither the luxury of a library, or, you know, very many friends outside of my school, as I was a weirdo - and being a natural homebody, I didn't WANT to leave the house either.

So, for my daily entertainment I had a choice between cable cartoons and documentaries, and local garbage soap operas - in the past 30 years, local TV's only made 6 original shows, and everything afterwards has been some kind of reworking. You can guess what I went with.

As you can see, prior to the internet, I was stuck with a very limited reach of entertainment. And then we got a computer.

Flash forward several years, to today - right now, I've read through a neo-noir detective comic about walking talking animals in 50s America. I know what a Merzbow is. I've seen video reviews for E.T. porn . I'm 5 episodes into Newhart. I could even tell the difference between mid 80s and late 80s. I find very few things shocking these days.

I'm more open and understanding about film, literature and music than I've ever been in my life.

You'd think your peers would get this? No!

Anything from before 1996 just isnt viable entertainment. Retro TV might as well be from aliens. The slightest hint of the unordinary turns them off - but they're constantly on YouTube, constantly on these platforms that allow them to watch stuff from everything from the past century of entertainment, and yet, they're so very unfamiliar with it - they can barely understand how it could be considered entertainment

>>95101948
>le gen z cannot into oldie movies because too much muh instant gratification maymay
Maybe you're just autistic, anon. Normies gonna normie and only focus on what is contemporary or shiny and new, the amount of people that actually look beyond their surroundings remains about the same, if anything it's slightly increased when you look at shit like modern youth hipster culture in Gen Y and Gen X.

The generations thing is mostly useless to the general public. Unless you're a social scientist or a marketer there's absolutely no use for it. To try to shove so many disparate experiences from such a broad spectrum into single labels is not only asinine and unhelpful, it could actually be somewhat destructive.
People born a year to either side of you could have a completely different relationship to the world. Hell, people who were born in the same year but simply lived next door to you could claim the same.
Coupled with the recycling of trends and media, there's even cultural touchstones that separate generations may share that generations in between simply don't have.
Shared experiences across decades, classes, etc is interesting to talk about, but I wish people would stop pushing it as if it's all-important and like there's anything useful the average person, or even most highly engaged individuals, can do much of anything with.

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