Judge Dredd thread
creeps and lowlifes will be subject to HARSH judgement
I'm re-reading Cursed Earth right now then I'll go onto Apocalypse War
haven't looked at a lot of the early Dredd in a long time
its funny how he's a little twink in the early comics
>Just ordered my first dredd book after reading a bunch of storytimes on /co/ & /tg/ over the years
grabbed casefiles2, what are other good ones?
>>95079583
you can always read them all online
I just bought Casefiles 2 as well to read Cursed Earth
but America and the Dark Judges saga are really great as well as the Block wars/Apocalypse War
really lots of it is really good even the shorter stories
Story Time to save a dying thread
idk what you guys would like to see, so here's part of the Judge Child I like best where Dredd goes to Memphis
>>95080147
always enjoy Dredd's little field trips out into the Cursed Earth
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>>95080239
intermission
not even the Judges are above the law
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>>95080309
WE
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WUZ
>>95080332
KANGS
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>>95080469
IM OH TEP
IM OH TEP
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>>95080666
tough luck Joe!
>>95080715
Welcome to Texas City!
enough for now
doesn't look like anyone else is here
>>95080817
I'm reading.
>>95080817
thanks for the storytime anon
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>>95080147
What issue?
>>95080188
What went down in 2120 again?
>>95081025
Shall we find out?
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>>95081065
Uh-ooooh...
>>95081077
Hey look everyone, it's Anderson!
>>95081091
And Vampire Hershey, miss guide. Don't you dare forget Vampire Hershey.
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>>95081127
Well, that's a problem.
>>95081050
Thanks
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>>95081146
My pleasure! Though certainly not Dredd's...
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>>95081050
What can go wrong?
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>>95081249
>Oh grud how the drokk does this work what the hell is happening
>I'm sorry!
>>95081255
Undaunted by Dredd's pimp backhand, which has seen better days, Anderson is coming for that booty. And there's not a damn thing you can do to stop her.
>>95081267
>Hey Joe
>Are you...
>Hangin' there?
>>95079990
I don't generally see the appeal of newspaper strip versions of titles when full issues are available, but the Dredd strips are so consistently good
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>>95081293
To me it works because so much of Dredd is world-building through small, tiny, ultimately inconsequential cases, and the newspaper strips are that in its most condensed form. They feel like one of the ten thousand cases a judge handles per day, like Dredd solves eight of these on his way to a Sector House.
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>>95081329
Huh.
>>95080817
thanks anon, it was a nice storytime.
>>95081337
Well, all's well that ends well.
Also, no points for guessing how long it took for that scar to be 100% forgotten.
>>95081293
It helps that the Daily Star strips were mostly the same creative team as the regular issues
>>95081347
>Also, no points for guessing how long it took for that scar to be 100% forgotten.
Dredd has had about three new skins since then
Long as we're talking Dredd, here's Judge Hershey drawn by Simon Bisley.
Brian Bolland made a fascist police state look like a lot of fun, that's an artist for ya!
>>95080817
I am here
>>95081459
If that's talking Dredd, let's talk some more Dredd.
Right, so I cleaned out my old house during the week, and found the first couple of progs I ever bought,but I couldn't find the story that made me realize how great Dredd is. I can't even remember if it was in 2000AD or the Meg. But I'll describe it here, and if any of you encyclopedic earthlets can help me out, I'd greatly appreciate it.
The story opens on a monkey spray-painting "Judges suck" on a wall. The narration is of this guy. He has a fianceé, possibly a wife, a nice car and a job. People are always telling him how blessed he is, how lucky, and he believes them.
Then one day, the car crashes. His wife is horribly killed, but he makes it out. He's alive, but completely paralysed. He sits in his bed, staring blankly, as the doctors tell him how lucky he is to have made it out.
To help him with basic menial tasks, they give him this helper monkey, that he communicates via psychic implants in his temples. He and the monkey bond, as the doctors tell him how lucky he is to have found a friend among all his tragedy.
But he's depressed, and he can't take it anymore. Trapped in an unmoving body with all his pain, he hatches his plan. He has the monkey do the graffiti and get Dredd's attention, the subsequent chase is peppered throughout the guys life story.
The monkey, confused about what's going on, races back to the guy's hospital room. The guy knows as soon as Dredd kicks down that door, he'll be put out of his misery. So Dredd bursts in, lawgiver in-hand, and the guy's ready to die, but that monkey cares too much for his friend and master, and he jumps in front of Dredd's bullet.
Dredd says he doesn't really know what just happened, but the guy sure is lucky he didn't get caught in the crossfire.
The last panel is this man in a hospital bed, vegetative, unmoving, with a tear running down his cheek and a dead, bloody monkey in his lap. I thought it was the funniest fucking thing in the world.
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>>95080345
I hate it when meme faggots enjoy the same comics I do.
>Inb4 SEETHING, TRIGGERED or some other retardry
>>95083018
Aww, youre special and your precious secret isn't yours alone.
"Hipster."
dreddthredd
>>95080409
The writer obviously expected Dredd to not be wearing his uniform here
>>95083018
No, you're just being a cunt is all.
bump fuckers before i read the thraed
>>95080193
>Dredd found the hologram inside the house
That hologram looks an awful lot like a piece of paper.
>>95087271
Maybe it is a hologram on a piece of paper?
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>>95087867
You legend! You hero! Where was this one printed?
>>95087920
That tail ? And !.
>>95080158
doesnt the child turn out to be an asshole? Its been awhile since I read this
>>95088018
prog 647
>>95088084
Thanks anon, been hunting this one since I first read it.
>>95081155
>MC1 has an actual fucking Time Monitoring Lab with a 'DANGER' pie chart
>>95081167
>fucking akira reference on the right
>>95081459
>Bisley drew Hershey
Whoa shit, that's rad. Just as busty as his usual work, thank grud.
>>95081459
> Simon Bisley
Fuck Yeah. I wish he would draw more.
>>95087942
Ah.
Thinking about buying the complete case files and reading through them all, does the low paper quality detract from the experience?
>>95088968
Paper's pretty good quality, IMO.
I want an episode of Dredd drawn (and maybe written) by Sergio Aragones.
>>95088050
Yup pure evil as it turns out
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>>95088329
Erryone love the Biz.
>>95088968
While the early progs were printed on the cheapest paper available the casefile reprints are a much higher standard. I've got a couple of well thumbed volumes and they have held up really well
>Leviathan's Farewell
>Shamballa
>The Jesus Syndrome
>Childhood's End
Is this arc the high-water mark of the Dreddverse?
>>95091660
Certainly for Anderson. She's got by far the most well-developed spinoff of the whole verse.
As for Dredd himself, I think the build-up to Necropolis and the years from Origins to Day of Chaos are his high points character wise. But action-wise, it's all about the Apocalypse War for me.
>>95081050
Thanks.
>>95091773
>it's all about the Apocalypse War for me.
Yes.
It's Die Hard 1&2, Predator 1&2, Aliens and similar 80s action movies in comic book form. Especially with the crazy widescreen shit they did (splash pages etc.) and Ezquerra's art is on point all the time.
>>95091907
It's just an absolute masterclass. Art-wise you have Ezquerra fucking drawing his heart out with everything looking huge all the time, scenes like the Lawmaster vs Rad-Sweeper, the burning streets, the huge splash pages, everything just looks massive and spectacular all the time.
And writing-wise it's a masterpiece of pacing and characterization. Just the way Wagner and Grant weave everything, taking Dredd from one threat to another, constantly escalating but giving each situation enough time to feel dire before they're solved. And that third act where Dredd just goes fuck it and turns full proactive is such a fantastic ending.
I would seriously give Apocalypse War to anyone who wants to write action comics of any genre. There's way too much to learn from it.
>>95087942
Well shit.
BUMP for justice!
>>95081763
>fascist
From the barren wastes of the Cursed Earth comes the Burger Wars
>>95096736
this series was cut out of all publications until 2016 because of a lawsuit by McDonalds
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>>95096877
I'm not exactly sure where in the Cursed Earth this takes place, they are already over the burning Mississippi, and burger autism seems to fit with flyover states
>>95096925
reading these old stories makes you appreciate how far Dredd has come. They are pretty silly and pulpy, but still good.
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>>95097006
thus ends the Burger tyrants
>>95097020
Next Time on JUDGE DREDD
dedd thredd
why is /co/ so fast todday
>>95097045
Thank you for posting.
>>95097287
Dunno but I've been waiting weeks for a Dredd threadd.
>>95096746
From what I've read the censorship of curses earth stories was a result of editorial completely over reacting. There was never any serious threat of legal action and almost no chance any case that was bought would succeed
>>95080309
are there any other stories with sassy bikes?
>>95097020
Who is the rat-like creature which stands alongside judges at the end? Is it friendly?
>>95098605
that's an alien anteater from the story prior to this one where they cross the Mississippi and Dredd frees him from slavery so he can bury his dead wife and children
>>95097045
Satanus is fucking 2BRUTE so ill post it in a little while
>>95097045
now for the DARK ONE
>>95099363
this is what I mean by VERY pulpy
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>>95099415
i'm not sure if this Jurassic park is from before or after the Atomic War
Tyrannosaurs in 2000AD seem to live for a long time though, over a century
>>95099434
the Cursed Earth seems oddly comfy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRuCPS_-_IA
>>95092051
THIS. Apocalypse War is how you do an event comic. The only thing that comes close to matching it is the original Crisis on Infinite Earths. Most of the DC and Marvel events of the last 2 decades, especially recently, are utter hot garbage next to this.
>>95099473
now for a change of tone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiDRtEVivGo
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>>95099542
MUMMY NO
>>95099551
that "other story" is a comic called Flesh unrelated to 2000AD
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>>95099649
this town has been judged GUILTY
>>95099659
OOOH NO
THERE GOES TOKYO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T65rW_SIzg0
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>>95099681
Robots and laser tanks and cowboys and dinosaurs oh my!
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>>95099713
thus ends the ballad of Satanus... for now
Dredd is a weakling,
Earth judges just aren't willing to go the distance and solve crime once and for all
>>95099721
gonna continue on with the Cursed Earth
the story after Satanus and Colorado is kind of lame
just Colonel Sanders bringing a bunch of food and other product mascots to life
this is when Dredd reaches Las Vegas and takes on the corrupt judges there.
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>>95099995
I'm unsure exactly how many cities there are in the USA besides Meg-1 Meg-2 Texas City, Vegas, and some small one in Alaska.
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>>95100056
I wish these were higher quality
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>>95100086
wrapped up pretty cleanly
would be funny to see how Dredd would have handled being Chief Judge of some wild western city.
>>95100093
enough for now, from the looks of it I'm the only one posting here anyway
>>95100093
They returned to Vegas City in a later Judge Death story. Spoiler:Dredd's reforms didn't take, but Death's did!
>>95100099
latter if the thread is active I'll post their trip through Death Valley and meeting President Booth's armies
the earlier story where they actually find President booth in Fort Knox as some sort of vampire was a bit underwhelming, but its a good setup for the latter story where he tries to re-take the country and install himself as President again.
>>95080228
>brotherhood of trash
>>95100237
I know, right? A metaphor for 4chan made before the existence of 4chan? Is this magic?
>>95100262
Dredd always tackles real world issues even before they happen
>communist urban gorillas
I love the gritty art style in Dredd so much, but for the life of me I can't get close to it myself. I wish there were resources on how to draw like that
>>95100462
I think the faces/the way people stand, as well as the sort of twisting nightmare look of everything makes it
>>95099363
I like Satanus a lot
here is some alternate art
his purple colouring here makes him look a bit like an evil barney
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>>95100550
I like this version of Satanus over the lumpy old school version
>>95100598
love that sleek chubby "wet leather" look some artists used to give dinosaurs
honestly living in Meg-1 doesn't seem that bad
I mean sure there is some insane disaster every few months, but you have to remember the city is massive and the likelihood of you being effected is pretty minimal
and despite all the crazy shit, Humanity is thriving in the 2000AD universe, 800 million people in Meg1 alone, colonies within the solar system and beyond, interstellar travel, biological immortality is possible, and even without that people can live for well over 100 years.
you've even got a lot of personal freedom so long as you follow the law
>>95096877
it's just like one of my ancap memes!
>>95100768
>800 million people in Meg1 alone
Not any more~
Also, I think there's a difference between being transported to MC-1 as you are right now, and being born and bred there. The former would be more fun up until you completely fuck up and get shipped to an iso-cube, and the latter would mean you've been indoctrinated from birth to be a moron without any life prospects beyond following an idiotic hobby, cashing your welfare check and occasionally participating in a Block War.
The big question (well, the *other* big question) of life in Mega-City One is wether it's a life worth living.
>>95100075
Pssssst...https://www.mediafire.com/file/12x7v2c05yffqfq
>>95100075
I've read it in floppies and as I recall these scans are better than what you'd see in them. Especially there was horrible bleed from colored spaces into black ones.
>>95101197
I strongly suspect I'd wind up like the cryogenically preserved people in Transmetropolitan.
tl;dr future shocked into near catatonia.
>>95100768
Yeah but in 10000 years or so the age of strife happens
>>95079525
>IDW killed dredd
the future is dredd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEPdOZbyzbw
>>95099891
Don't you have some dogs to be kicking, Sidney?
so like, how is the current IDW stuff? i stopped reading when they made Link Angel a gay child molester
>>95101545
IDW made some shit Dredd comics (and a few decent ones to be fair)
But they are really just fanfic. They can't kill Dredd because Dredd isn't theirs to kill
>>95102709
Not good.
>>95099415
I just realised
they came up with the idea for a cloned dinosaur theme part before Michael Crichton did, and even some of the scenes in this part show up in Spielberg's movie, like the eye in the window
>>95099473
>ywn be a brontosaur rancher in the post-war Colorado highlands
>>95103109
2000AD did way more shit years before the examples everyone thinks of, but no one knows it because it's an obscure-ass ancient British comic book.
>>95104440
Judge Dredd is hardly obscure is it?
>>95104675
>Judge Dredd is hardly obscure is it?
On the burger side of the Atlantic it is.
>>95103109
According to Mills himself, the idea of a dinosaur theme park originally came from some even older sci-fi short story in a 60s anthology, something like that, so he can't take all the credit for it either.
Humanity just really fucking wants dino zoos, I guess.
>>95104675
Not after the Hollywood movie.
>>95106085
I mean Bradbury's A Sound of Thunder is basically the core concept, right? And that's 1950s and a very famous short story. There's probably one earlier than that though, I wouldn't be surprised at all.
>>95100541
Satanus is weird because after Nemesis they tend to try and do some weird mystic shit with him, and you can't really do Flesh again. I feel like he's best when most simple?
>>95106901
>There's probably one earlier than that though, I wouldn't be surprised at all.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_Palace_Dinosaurs
The idea of going to a park to look at dinosaurs dates back to shortly after dinosaurs were first described.
>>95108144
Oh man, that's lovely. I should really make a point of seeing them next time I'm in London.
>>95106091
People often don't make the connection or they assume the comic is no longer a thing. And while there's a lot of nostalgia for 96 Dredd plenty of people aren't aware of 2012 Dredd
>>95109112
>mfw prog 2000 came out and a bunch of people in comments were like "Oh wow, they're still publishing 2000AD?"
Like, it's awesome to get people back in the fold, but...
>>95110812
There's like a weird subset of indie US comics people who do/are into really 2000AD-ish stuff or are really into people who worked on 2000AD, without actually having read much of it?
>>95110936
I can see it. People who have read Bolland's Dredd strips and the Batman crossovers, Bisley's Sláine, maybe Halo Jones because Moore or Rogue Trooper because Gibbons, but that's as far as they go. They think of it as "that one UK mag where all the cool people got their start", which is not exactly wrong-wrong, but they don't read it regularly either. And in some cases don't even know it exists/is still alive.
>>95111050
And, there is so much of it to read now. And not all of it is good.
>>95111246
There's a lot but to me, the best part is that most of it is very straightforward. Like, say you want to read Strontium Dog. Cool, read the S/D Files. Say you want to read Nemesis the Warlock. There's three volumes worth of it. Same with Rogue, same with Slaine. And Rebellion have been doing a pretty good job of reprinting most of it.
Sure, there's some crap out there and some books have those janky crossovers, like the ABC Warriors in Nemesis. But to me, 2000AD only looks hard to get into because it's been running for 40 years and most people haven't even heard it, so they assume it's a complex mess of retcons and shared 'verses like most mainstream comics.
>>95111397
I feel like reading prog to prog is such a trip though. You just get exposure to so much - all the standouts are collected, but you don't get these weird little stories that were only around for a dozen issues. Or these terrible ones with amazing art, some random artist who only stuck around for a few stories then went to illustrate dinosaur books.
I just like the anthology format I guess. I agree no individual 2000AD story is very hard to get into.
>>95111643
Yeah, I'm on a prog slog right now and it's definitely a trip. Just reached 2001 and the Rebellion buy-out. Ended up reading and loving a bunch of super tiny stuff along the way, like Night Zero, Shadows, Soul Gun Warrior and Mother Earth (pretty much the only of those 90s eco-friendly series that I actually enjoyed). It's great that a lot of those have been collected in those cool Megazine mini-trades, tho' that's only if, well, you get the Meg.
But yeah, I wish the first reaction to a 40 year and running anthology wasn't "Oh shit that's probably a fucking mess and a half".
Holy shit this is a good thread.
>>95111870
>mother earth
admit it , you only liked it because the birdy had a nice bobcut like hershey
>>95112568
Well, yes, BUT! I also really enjoyed the black humor and overall anarchic feel of it. Of all those 90s eco series, only this and Finn felt like they went really nuts for me. Trash and Dead Meat and all those others felt very milquetoast by comparison, and Revere completely dropped the eco stuff halfway through. Plus, something about the writing and Mother's design gave me a strong 90s Marvel UK vibe, which is not surprising considering it was written by one of its editors.
Shame it only lasted like six eps, when fucking Dead Meat got two books.
>>95079525
that everyone on this site
so, we all getting tossed in cubes for a LONG time
>>95112713
I could never get into Finn.
>>95112713
IDK if the strains of the eco stories ever go away. Like Kingdom now is kinda that? And Mother Earth is a similar concept to that one story about the murderous psychic alien who just went around naked for most of the strip (har har) which I can't remember the name of now. Which wasn't very good, like Mother Earth was definitely better.
Longform analysis of 2000AD is really interesting if you're a fan, I'd love to see someone do work paralleling different strips in different eras. It is out there but tends to be in obscure corners of the web and focused on particular interests. Like your own female judges thing.
>>95112799
Yeah, it's a rough one. I think most Finn series spread themselves too thin and repeated themselves a lot. But I really enjoyed the comedy bits, like the Mariners' salute and Finn having to woo the dragon. And it was fun to see all the female readers' letters going like "Ok, you can have all the DeMarco tits you want on the cover, but where's our big two-page Finn pinup?"
>>95112987
>murderous psychic alien who just went around naked for most of the strip (har har)
"The Dead"? And yeah, one of the best things about reading all of 2000AD is seeing not only how artists and writers evolve and change but how the mag itself shifts around. Sure, there's bits of serious crap all around, but it's funny how you can pinpoint with some extreme accuracy stuff like that time in the late 90s where they were trying to get media attention, with BLAIR 1 and (sigh) Space Girls. It makes for interesting analysis.
>>95111397
What's the story behind that Carter lady that Nikolai Dante is flirting with?
>>95113203
She's Claw Carver's daughter, from Pat Mills' latest Flesh series.
>>95113176
>"The Dead"?
Nah, it had Andy Clarke on art. One thing that is nice is the JDM will pretty regularly review 2000AD/JDM's own history with a fair degree of honesty, so they can look back at that Space Girls era and laugh (and cry) too.
>>95091660
Shamballa's ending is bad.