After he comes back (search your hearts, you know it's going

>>95066763
Joe Quesada.

>>95066763

Isn't he and Quesada the only two left? Dixon, Rucka, and Robinson all came back,

>>95067491
There have to be others like Isabella and Priest who didn't feel specifically wronged but needed extra effort to be brought back, right?

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>>95066763
Please god no. He already ruined Daredevil I don't want him ruining DC characters too.

>>95068106
And Soule only barely managed to bring DD back up

>>95068106
DC whipped the dogfucker into shape, maybe they could do the same with Waid.

>>95067491
There's PAD, Fialkov, and JH Williams off the top of my head.

>>95068622
Does Soule still have Matt as an atheist?

>>95068106
I liked his run on Daredevil. It's a lot better than the post reboot stories.

>>95068622
You mean the guy who turned Matt into an atheist fixed him?

>>95066763
Alan Moore
I wish.

>>95070721
The fact that Alan Moore wrote a 1 million page book makes me glad he left comics. He is a great writer, but up his own butt. Doesn't translate well when you write comics especially in the super hero genre.

>DC feels pity for Spencer and gives him a book.

>>95070602
Kind of.
>>95070702
Everything else was set back into order

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>>95070966
>stick him on backups in Action Comics like in the good old days

>>95067442
Hell no, Quesada burned his bridges pretty badly.

>>95070340
I think Waid is just done. His last years at DC were bad too even before editorial fucking with him.

>>95070966
Give him a Rogues book.

>>95071921
He needs to be contained- and especially kept away from LOSH.

>>95070340
Waid's been a lost cause since Man of Steel came out. There's no fixing that.

>>95070567
>PAD
DC just stopped hiring him.

>>95071987
>Threeboot literally only worked as a joke foil to the two real LoSHs in Lo3W

Sad!

>>95071942
More like a Plastic Man book.

>>95072036
And guess who will be writing Young Justice Rebirth

>>95066763
John Byrne.

hahaha just kidding!

>>95072037
I couldn't get through threeboot. At first I thought it might turn around, but it just got worse.

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>>95072141
Basically the only thing he did right was Nura, but it's like he realized that and then tried to correct for it with terribleness.

>>95072085
What the fuck happened to Byrne?

>>95072192
Old age amplified his autism and having the internet as a place to shitpost publically made it easy to burn his bridges for good.

>>95072192
Besides the rampant pedo and ephebophilia?

>>95072192
He was never good to begin with.

>>95072357
I like his work in X-Men, but I vastly prefer Cockrum.

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>>95072192
You tell me, Anon.

>>95070794
Ironic since he wrote the best superhero comic.

someone give me some dirt on John Bryne. How and why did he burn his bridges and stuff?

>>95075029
anyone?

>>95066763
No. Dude is not really a good writer anymore.

>>95072085
Didn't they make things up with him, only to burn it again? I remember Bryne being on Action Comics back in like 05 or so.

>>95075029
It's not hard to see why someone like him would burn bridges with anyone.

>>95075373
>>95075029
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/John_Byrne
Just read this.

>>95074455
Alan Moore didn't write Kingdom Come.

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>>95072249
I have no idea what you might be speaking about anon! Nothing weird here at all!
>>95075335
Byrne rebooted Doom Patrol right before infinite crisis and mangled it so hard (Beast Boy still existed in the Teen Titans but never was connected to the DP because of Byrne) that Johns retconned the entire run when Superboy-Prime hit that wall

>>95076108
>Vaginascope.jpg

>>95070794
holy shit look at this stupidity

>>95066763
LoSH

Is there any hope for LoSH ?

>>95075911
Kingdom Come sure is shit ain't the best superhero comic.

>>95076253
It has great art, a complex and nuanced story, realistic Batman, and a properly reverent and respectful presentation of the best hero, Superman.

>>95076305
And?

>>95076333
You don't recognize greatness; I'm sad for you.

Wont happen, he's lost the magic

>>95076440
You didn't say it has a great story though. And realistic Batman does not in anyway improve the quality of the story in any way.

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>>95075029

Bro he shit-talked Kirby to his face.

>>95070602
>>95070702
Matt stopped believing in God after death of Karen. It was stated like 15 years ago in Bendis run.

>>95075029
With Marvel or DC?

With Marvel, he had a fit over Quesada cancelling his X-Men: The Hidden Years comic and refused to do any more work for Marvel as long as Quesada and Jemas worked there.

With DC, at the time Superman Returns was gradually releasing info about the movie (like for instance the rumor that Lois' kid is actually Superman's), he was pissed off at it and banned all discussion about the film on his board. Then when the solicitations for the Superman Returns prequel comics were released, everyone noticed Byrne's name on the Krypton prequel and wondered what was going on since Byrne was adamant about his hatred. Byrne initially said that his project was basically based on the 1978 film (which was true; if you read the Krypton prequel it was basically a recap of the destruction of Krypton and Kal-El's arrival on Earth from that film) and then he suddenly announced that he was leaving the project (I think claiming that he was misled on what the project was). This caused problems because it meant they needed to get another artist to do it in a short amount of time. It's probably no coincidence after that that Byrne didn't get many other jobs at DC, then it dried up and he went over to IDW and also did commissions.

>>95078033
Which issue?

>>95078033
No one here reads comics. Why would you expect them to remember that?

>>95075911
Yes he did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twilight_of_the_Superheroes

Marz, Kesel, Messner-Loebs

Loeb

>>95075911
>Kingdom Come
>good

>>95066763
>years of mindless intense hatred and dumb shit flinging from Waid to DC
>still willing to apologize to this washed up fool
DC Comics as in Dumb Cucks Comics

>>95076305
>a complex and nuanced story
Surely you jest

>>95079873
isn't
>REEEEEEEEEEEE Cable and comics in general are popular with kids for once
a complex and nuanced tale?

Millar promised a gamechanging story for either DC or Marvel by the end of the year, so it will be announced in this month's solicitations

>>95078534
What is Marz doing these days? I haven't read anything of his since Witchblade stopped. and his Witchblade is some of the best action comics made IMHO

>>95075911
>Dingdong Cum
>good

>>95079873
I'm glad someone got it.

>>95080794
last time he wrote something was A convergence tie in for Leather jacket superboy

>>95080021
I read that as Miller at first. Mild interest to no interest- instantly.

>>95080021
>millar

oh boy

>>95070567
>Fialkov,
he's just gone entirely

>>95077880
It is a great story though. It shows how superheroes, as heroes, would attempt to reign in a world where their culture became ignorant of their values and moral boundaries. And because they're heroes, they acknowledge the weight of their mistakes in the end and are able to open the door to a brighter future after a near apocalyptic happening had almost occurred.

At any rate it's better than any Alan Moore book because it recognizes superheroes as extraordinary personalities instead of just making everyone a fuckup schmuck to drive home "they're still only human gaiz"

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>this thread
>retards trying to convince everyone that KC and Waid Flash sucked now despite being board favorites for years

Newfags need to kill themselves

>>95078534
Was there any screwing around with Messner-Loebs?

>>95082864
I'm glad someone gets it. Mark Waid is a legendary writer and nothing these retards say is going to change that. Seethe fags, seethe!

>>95075911
Kingdom Come is trash, no one would care about it without Ross' work.

>>95075911
Kingdom Come is just a hack ripoff of Alan Moore's work regardless.

>>95083415
Wrong bitch

>>95083383
>seeth
Meme defense deployed.

>>95082864
No one mentioned Flash before you.

His Flash is fine capeshit but it is still capeshit and kind of overrated. If The Return of Barry Allen is your standout story for an entire franchise then you're grasping at straws.

>>95083568
You are seething.

>>95083582
Not really, Terminal velocity is a fantastic story, and the one offs are great. Plus it had at least decent long term plotting.

>>95083694
Yeah, a writer I've never liked is self-destructing, boy am I mad.

>>95084101
You're just a contrarian bitch.

>>95083334
maybe, not a single work he's done has been reprinted yet going through like homelessness and meth addiction

>>95084418
>meth addiction
Jeez, Bill. I felt pity for you when you lost your house, but now it's impossible.

>>95084329
Seething.

>>95084418
Last year DC reprinted Deodato's Wonder Woman run, so that includes The Contest and the Challenge of Artemis right there.

>>95082864
What the fuck are you talking about? Waid used to be divisive back in late 2000s as well. But back then it was for his bland style of writing rather than people yelling SJW.

>>95085249
His FF was pretty well-received, aside from his autistic fit over Doom being noble. A bunch of people got mad when he was fired from the title, not for sales reasons, but because Marvel wanted to synergize it with movie in development that went nowhere that treated it as a family comedy.

>>95083817
There is not a single Flash story that is more than slightly above average. Like I said, at best they're kind of overperforming capeshit.

>>95077989
When did that happen? Byrne was one of the people who turned opinion of Kirby around, he's always been one of his most ardent fans.

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>>95085419
>In 1981, Jack Kirby went public about feeling he had been deprived of creator credit and money while co-creating the Marvel Universe. John Byrne, who was originally a fan of Jack Kirby and made alot of money utilizing and penciling characters Jack had co-created, wrote an editorial declaring himself proud to be a “company man,” and argued that creators should “live within the rules while they’re around.” John Byrne wrote that Jack knew the deal and had no rights. In response to John Byrne, Jack Kirby made Destroyer Duck 4, 1983 with Steve Gerber depicted John Byrne as “Cogburn,” a spineless company man with no genitals and all ego.
Byrne's response to that was turning the character meant to represent Kirby's wife into a mind-controlled porn star.

>>95085588
Well damn. What a schmuck.

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>>95085700
This was what Kirby designed and drew, which was supposed to be Byrne. A Dickless and Spineless company man

>>95086071
>Byrne eventually got cucked by Marvel
Oh the irony.

>>95086071
Didn't Kirby kinda do the same thing with Roy Thomas?

>>95086842
He famously did it to Stan Lee, at least.

>>95087863
I know that Funky Flashman was Stan Lee but I thought that an anon said that Roy Thomas was basically Flashman's toady and yes-man.

>>95085293
He writes solid and cliche superhero stories at best, but nothing exceptional.