IT'S TIME FOR REVIEWS IGN Marvel’s Inhumans is the latest

Marvel and ABC are going big for the launch of Inhumans, releasing the first two episodes in IMAX theaters cut together as a feature-length movie, and then those episodes will air on TV as part of a two-part premiere. The theatrical and TV version will have some differences, although they are reportedly minimal; it seems the biggest change is one storyline is cut out from the IMAX version. This review is based on the IMAX presentation, and will stand as IGN’s review of the first two episodes. That said, if there’s something that makes us reevaluate this score in the TV version, I’ll make note of it here and adjust the score accordingly

Unfortunately, launching Inhumans as an IMAX movie does more harm than good. The story simply doesn’t have the scope, scale, or polish to make use of such a bold format, and it shows. When the Inhumans flee to Earth, they go to Hawaii - a setting assumedly chosen so they’d have a beautiful place to show off in those super-sized frames. And yes, sure, Hawaii is gorgeous, but it adds nothing to the story, making those big establishing shots feel like something that would be more at home on the Discovery Channel rather than in Marvel’s latest superhero tale. And on top of all that, even though the IMAX version is supposed to be presented as a movie, it still includes episode recap flashbacks halfway through, making me wonder if the editor didn’t get the memo.

The cast includes some talented actors, but they’re buried beneath the show’s glaring flaws, making it impossible to get invested in anyone enough to want to see what happens next. Ken Leung’s Karnak earns the premiere’s only real laughs by always saying what’s on his over-analytical mind, but the confusing first demonstration of his powers will leave you scratching your head. Iwan Rheon’s Maximus is Diet Loki, the jealous, scheming brother of King Black Bolt, but he's given such insidious dialogue and direction that his motivations are immediately obvious. (Also, there’s one scene in particular where it seems no one on set pointed out that Rheon’s accent was coming through.) The writers just didn't know when to quit putting Serinda Swan’s Queen Medusa through the dramatic grinder, resulting in a scene that is unintentionally cringe-worthy. The few action scenes we find the characters in are filled with unimpressive visual effects and tepid choreography. Not even Lockjaw, the obscenely cute, giant, teleporting dog is enough to make you want to sit through another episode.

Showrunner Scott Buck’s previous Marvel credit was Netflix’s Iron Fist, which speaks volumes as to why Inhumans is just as misguided in its approach and execution. Yes, the source material for Inhumans involves a lot of out-there characters and concepts, but ever since Guardians of the Galaxy knocked it out of the park with a talking a raccoon and his tree friend, that can no longer be used as an excuse for why an adaptation didn’t turn out well. It’s clear the show was influenced by the classic Inhumans comic by Paul Jenkins and Jae Lee, but the dark, complex and gripping elements that made it great are nowhere to be seen. Even the lighter, more modern Inhumans comics of the past few years feel like they were flipped through without taking the time to truly understand their appeal.

>>95029654
X men win again

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But let me be clear: Inhumans isn’t bad because it’s not a loyal adaptation of the comics. Inhumans is bad because it’s a slog to get through.

Inhumans is bad from top to bottom. Try as it might, the show does not live up to the Marvel brand. It is most definitely not worth seeing in IMAX, and I wouldn’t recommend catching it on TV either.

From Reddit

It is terribly dumbed down.
There are huge lapses of basic logic (the police treat Black Bolt like a common criminal despite the fact that they witnessed him destroy a police car with ease. they dont even bother to remove all his belongings once they apprehend him).
Maximus' coup happens REALLY fast, like within the first 20 minutes. Suddenly he's got the backing of the entire Royal Guard which apparently makes him the defacto king? At least Loki logically assumed the throne when Odin fell into his sleep and Thor was banished.
Auran is one of the blandest and most generic henchmen in the MCU ever. "Hurt me and I'll kill your family, chop them up into pieces and put them in a garbage bag." Jesus christ. She kills a civilian and says "I don't like being touched."
Isabelle Cornish was the stiffest cast member. The director does not do her any favors. It's like George Lucas directing Natalie Portman in the prequels.
Attilan looks surprisingly good minus the LCD dome they have.
The depiction of Karnak's power gets progressively worse as the episode goes.
Karnak's subplot is by far the most interesting for me.
Why is the set design so whack? The terrigenesis chamber is literally a telephone booth lmao. They keep the terrigen crystals in a wooden crate.
Medusa's fight scene looked dope. The scene where they shave her head may be a good nod to the comics but given that they do it in the first 30 minutes of an 8-hour show means they wanna cheap out fast
I keep reading that this show is more CW worthy than ABC but fuck some of the CW premieres are light years better than this! This doesn't even come close to the Riverdale premiere or Flash.
Crazy how they didn't even bother to smoothen the transition to episode 2. When the family arrives on earth, we literally get flashbacks to the moment they were sent away a minute ago. WTF
The intro theme music is great. The title sequence was almost fine until Lockjaw showed up in the title card.

https://www.newsarama.com/36221-review-marvel-s-inhumans-the-imax-experience.html

On paper, Inhumans feels like the answer to much of what ails Marvel Television. As opposed to its larger-than-life cinematic counterpart, Marvel’s live-action TV unit has felt like a paradox - with Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and Agent Carter, these series both live in a world full of wondrous superheroes... yet are defined largely by the absence of any of these budget-heavy superpowers. But with Inhumans, that perception looked ready to change, as Stan Lee and Jack Kirby’s wild and eccentric Royal Family of Attilan will finally make their grand debut on IMAX screens Thursday evening.

Well, at least it looked grand on paper.

The more people involved in any creative production, the more likely you are to wash out any sort of voice or style in a production. But in Inhumans, which already would be a weird, tough sell to really deliver that Kirby-esque strangeness, the final product feels aimless and bleached-out, with its network television sensibilities and budget feels self-consciously evident. And given that viewers will be able to see a quarter of the entire series beginning this week at IMAX, there’s not a lot of room for showrunner Scott Buck and company to maneuver to give this Game of Thrones-lite series its necessary punch.

>>95029680
Please don't bring that shit in here

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God, I really hope this doesn't ruins Iwan's career. He's already in for a shit ton of type casting, I at least hope he gets some good roles out of it.

If there’s been any word that Marvel and ABC have used to describe Inhumans it’s “family,” showing that Black Bolt, Medusa, and their clan on Attilan have to deal not just with political intrigue but also their own interpersonal dynamic. And like I’ve said before, on paper that sounds fine - but the devils that plague this show are all in the execution. Much of this comes from normally talented actors being shoehorned into some very awkward roles -Anson Mount, the usually terrific Hell on Wheels alum, loses every weapon he has to emote in the thankless role of the silent king Black Bolt, as he’s locked into a perpetual wide-eyed frown that feels half-deer in headlights, half-Mister Bean. It’s a shame, because Mount has done his homework in trying to create a series of gestures for Bolt to communicate with, but it either comes across as redundant when other characters translate for him, or doesn’t quite have the comedic punch when he’s inevitably cast out to Earth on his own.

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>>95029729
>Please don't bring that shit in here
Cry more
And don't forget the the gifted are coming

>Newsarana's long ass paragraphs

Unfortunately, with the show’s foundations this shaky, the rest of the cast doesn’t fare much better. Serinda Swan, who plays Bolt’s queen Medusa, becomes almost the metaphor for the show - a character who is defined by her wild living hair, but is largely trapped in a flat, cheap-looking wig. She’s given the most emotional scenery to chew on, from having her living hair shaved off during Maximus’ coup of Attlian to engaging in brutal hand-to-hand combat in the two-parter’s finale, but Swan doesn’t have the weight of a Lena Headey to show how heavy the head is that rests the crown. Medusa’s sister, Crystal, will likely be the Danny Rand of the show, making little use of Isabelle Cornish’s charm - coming across as the spoiled brat of the Royal Family, she’s sidelined almost immediately, locked in her apartment by Maximus while the rest of her family flees to Earth, kept company by her way-too-CGI’d dog Lockjaw. When Crystal’s one attempt at escaping winds up leading Maximus’ forces directly to Medusa, you can’t help but facepalm.

>>95029519

An Imax showing with only 3 seats sold.

>>95029654
One of the worst things about this Inhuman push is that simultaneously allows X-fags to be butthurt about the Marvel blatantly shitting on the X-Men in order for the Inhumans to shine, and be incredibly smug about how horribly the push blew up in Ike's face.

And that’s where things looking good on paper come back into play. Showrunner Scott Buck’s instincts to rely more on his characters than on his plot is a good instinct - but because the acting and the production values seem so wooden, that makes the overall arc of this series seem more threadbare than ambitious. There’s an interesting kernel of political drama at the heart of Inhumans - namely, that Attilan is a closed-off, stagnating society of dwindling resources, with Terregenesis providing the catalyst between the haves (the people who develop superpowers) and the have-nots (the normals who get thrown into the mines as slave labor). It’s inherently unjust, and Maximus - the only Royal Family member to not have powers - feels like the sole voice of reason as he begs Black Bolt to allow the Inhumans to return to Earth. (It’s telling that even Medusa seems to waver from her indecisive king in this regard, which would have made for some rich drama as the Queen pulled between two brothers who desperately prize her political and romantic allegiance.)

>>95029754
I meant don't bring that autist from the other thread in here

>>95029654
I don't think I've ever seen a TV show launch this fumbled.

What the fuck was Ike thinking?

>>95029709
>Medusa's fight scene looked dope. The scene where they shave her head may be a good nod to the comics but given that they do it in the first 30 minutes of an 8-hour show means they wanna cheap out fast
>first appearance of the character in live-action
>get rid of her power within 30 minutes of the first episode

what the fuck

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>>95029830
>What the fuck was Ike thinking?

There will be books written about this Inhumans push and its spectacular failure.

Newarma runs like shit and keeps crashing so moving on
http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/inhumans/review/a836909/inhumans-tv-marvel-review/

The early buzz for Marvel's latest TV outing, Inhumans, has been pretty toxic, with a backlash to early promotional images and footage – director Roel Reiné even part-apologised for the first trailer – and tales of awkward encounters between the creative team and a negative press.

At this stage, it feels as though some are almost willing the show to fail, which is unfair. But, ultimately, the hard truth is that if you were hoping for Inhumans to defy expectations and prove the haters wrong, then you're going to come away disappointed.

Let's start with the positives: despite the impression you may have got from those underwhelming series teasers, Inhumans does not look cheap – that dodgy Medusa wig, aside.

It's clear that a lot of money has been sunk into the first two episodes at least – coupling some fantastic location shooting in Hawaii's lush locales with impressive CGI vistas, this first chapter is suitably visually epic, as befits its release in IMAX.

The themes at the heart of the series are also compelling, with plenty of potential. There's the unsettling idea of enforced mutation as ritual, and the idea of a rarified royal family out of touch with the working class, with an antagonist who plays to the lower caste's feelings of disenfranchisement – a theme which plays especially strong in 2017.

Scott Buck's script, though, fails to exploit any of these ideas to their full potential – and that's one of many weaknesses of a flat, uninspired screenplay. Spinning a hurried tale of a royal coup / civil war, the ex-Iron Fist showrunner never fleshes out his heroes or his villains, and fails to deliver a concrete reason why we should root for either side.

>>95029703
>Inhumans is bad from top to bottom.
>Try as it might, the show does not live up to the Marvel brand.
How do you contradict yourself that quickly?

>>95029830
FAST
AND
CHEAP

>>95029654

>know nothing about the Inhumans
>still be hyped because I hear of the concept and of Black Bolt as a character (whathappenedtothestrongsilenttype.jpeg)
>be hyped for a movie which showcases all of the fun things about the characters
>lose almost all hope in the MCU after that clusterfuck Age of Ultron (Ultron is my favourite Avengers villain)
>still have hype left for Dr. Strange and Inhumans
>Inhumans movie gets cancelled
>fucking TV show confirmed
>all hype gone

if they had made a movie, the generic factor would be there as always but people would probably like it some way or the other, at least the mass audiences. this way, not only did they fail to generate a shit ton of money by making a movie, they also made sure that the show is regarded as one of the worst things, if not the worst thing, in the whole franchise

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>>95029797
You don't even know half of it

In place of nuanced characterisation and / or compelling backstories, we instead have characters restating their shallow motives, and their relationships to each other, over and over.

Just to recap, Maximus (Iwan Rheon) has no special abilities, and has been shunned by the other Inhumans because of it – in case you missed one of the few dozen times it's mentioned in the pilot episode alone.

Yet despite the clunky reams of exposition, other key story points somehow end up lost in the chaos. Inhumans is at times mind-numbingly obvious, at times utterly baffling – hammering some ideas home repeatedly while also failing to answer basic questions, particularly for newcomers.

Who / what are the Inhumans, exactly? Their particular origins are confusing enough even before an attempt to provide a loose tie-in to Marvel's Agents of SHIELD muddies the waters even further.

And that's just for starters. Is teleporting super-pup Lockjaw a regular Earth dog that was exposed to the transformative powers of the Terrigen (and if so, why is he the only one)? And if anyone who's not already familiar with the source material can discern what Karnak (Ken Leung)'s powers are supposed to be from these opening two episodes, then it'd be – no pun intended – a marvel.

Being muddled and uneven would be bad enough, but – and despite being based on some of Marvel's most fantastical source material – Inhumans is also a shockingly sober affair. While a game cast do their best, Attilan's royals are a thoroughly drab bunch, sorely lacking in charm.

The few moments of humour that do exist in this first chapter come from an unexpected source – a dialogue-free Anson Mount is the show's MVP, doing a lot with very little, and Blackbolt's silent reactions to the spooked police officers caught up in his arrival on Earth offer some welcome levity.

We'll never know what the planned movie version of Inhumans might've been like, but it's hard to imagine it could've been any less impressive than this.

Once the decision was made to revamp the project for television, and for IMAX, the whole thing came together in less than nine months – in fact, the deal to release to IMAX was signed and announced two months before final scripts were even in place, and it shows.

For Marvel completists only, Inhumans is – as many had anticipated – the weakest entry in the MCU to date, across screens big and small.

A severe throwback to the mostly underwhelming comic book adaptations of the pre-Iron Man age, this looks to be a serious misstep, one that'll hopefully provoke the House of M to take a step back and reevaluate their creative strategy.

Because, after all, who thought it was a smart idea to hand the guy behind the maligned Iron Fist the keys to another major property?

>>95029870
It's almost like they wanted to be cheap with money.

http://fandom.wikia.com/articles/marvels-inhumans-review-funny-but-for-all-the-wrong-reasons

This new eight-part series from Marvel focuses on the Royal Family of a race known as Inhumans. Inhumans are beings with special powers, activated by a mist generated from special Terrigen crystals. They inhabit a secret city known as Attilan. When the Royal Family is betrayed and attacked in an attempted coup, some flee to Earth. With the threat pursuing them to Hawaii, their presence on Earth will likely have far-reaching effects. FANDOM has seen the first two episodes in IMAX and this is our verdict.


The latest series from Marvel arrives with a deafening fanfare: the first two episodes pitch up on IMAX screens for two weeks. Seamlessly stitched together and presented as ‘the first chapter’, it’s a helluva way to introduce the world to the first ever live-action series about Marvel’s Inhuman Royal Family.

It’s just a shame it’s such a massive letdown. That’s perhaps not surprising. There has been dissent from fan quarters ever since we first glimpsed the actors in costume. Then, when the first footage was released, fans grumbled about that too. They picked predominantly on Medusa’s hair which didn’t satisfy the criteria for how they felt it should look or move. For those that don’t know, Medusa’s power is in her hair – she can move it as if it’s a bunch of extra tentacle-like limbs. Get that wrapped around your throat and you’re a goner.

In defence of Inhumans, director/producer Roel Reiné has said that the animation of Medusa’s hair wasn’t quite finished at the time the footage went public.

But though it looks like it could do with a bloody good trim, hair is the least of the series’ problems.

Most closely connected to Agents of SHIELD of all the Marvel Cinematic Universe properties, Inhumans characters first appeared on screen in Season 2 of the long-running series. In Agents of SHIELD, we also saw glimpses of the Teregenesis process which brings out Inhumans’ special abilities. In Inhumans, we’re given a much closer look at how the process works, and what it means for those that go through it.

It’s a tense affair for all involved. When a child comes of age, they’re put through a ritual which sees them step inside a chamber into which Terrigen Mist is pumped. When they emerge, they will hopefully have acquired their latent powers – like one girl who we see acquire the power of flight.

For the king, Black Bolt (Anson Mount), his power turned out to be a supremely destructive voice. One small utterance causes havoc. We see a flashback to him as a child and his difficulties in coming to terms with his ‘gift’. Suffice to say, Black Bolt doesn’t speak anymore.

We’ve already touched on his wife Medusa’s (Serinda Swan) powers. His brother, Maximus (Iwan Rheon), however, was rendered human when he went through the process. Had he not been so well connected, he would ordinarily have been sent to work in the mines like the others who fail to come through Terrigenesis with special abilities. The perks of royal blood. Not sure Maximus quite sees it that way, though.

Ah, Maximus. Signposted as the bad guy right from the start, Iwan Rheon’s Maximus is all pantomime villain. But he’s not the only one relying on melodrama to get him through a ropey script. Anson Mount is also a culprit. And it’s pretty difficult to sympathise with a character who is all moody glowers and glares.

There’s also something comical about Black Bolt’s powers. When he unintentionally demonstrates them, particularly in the flashback sequence, it’s hilarious. And it shouldn’t be.

There are several moments where you wind up laughing, and you’re not meant to. Usually because of a line of poorly written dialogue and its overly dramatic delivery. Conversely, when it’s meant to be funny with a flippant aside, you’re groaning and shifting awkwardly at its corniness.

The best superhero series draw a fine line between good and evil. Protagonists are troubled, while antagonists often have a sympathetic side. Or at least a fully fleshed out character that allows you an understanding of their motives. Think of the Defenders and the varied heroes and villains throughout the individual series. Let’s use Daredevil as an example – Matt Murdock is conflicted, while Kingpin has a likeable side.

But while Inhumans seems to attempt to position some of its characters in this way, it doesn’t ring true. All the characters are underdeveloped and you can’t help but feel this won’t change as the series wears on. As two-dimensional characters, we’re confused when the show introduces messages that contradict their positions as heroes and villains. Is this deliberate? It’s difficult to tell.

When Black Bolt lands in Hawaii, his interactions with humans make him instantly detestable. He is both disgusted and bemused by an overweight man, and he walks off with a suit he hasn’t paid for. He’s new here, but still. His fish-out-of-water moments turn us against him rather than endear us, showing him up for the privileged and entitled dude he is. It doesn’t help that his arrival is reminiscent of General Zod’s in Superman II.

By contrast, a rousing speech given by Maximus at the end will have you baffled as to how you’re meant to feel. If you even care by the time you get to this point.

>>95029783
>An Imax showing with only 3 seats sold.
All this bad press may force me to watch it

As for the IMAX experience, it’s kind of wasted. Sure, scenes of Hawaiian landscapes are pretty breathtaking. And some of the overhead shots of the city of Attilan are dizzyingly impressive. But they’re few and far between, and is this what we really want from a comic-book series anyway? Especially if it’s at the expense of other things like script and characterisation.

The show’s main saving grace is Lockjaw. A giant teleporting bulldog, he’s adorable – and is on more than a couple of occasions the source of trouble for the characters, teleporting them into situations it’s challenging to get out of. There’s a touch of old-school innocence about this series that’s somewhat appealing – and we haven’t lost all hope of it improving as the episodes progress.

The series also promises an interesting use of music as it progresses. Moody, if jarring, versions of The Rolling Stones’ “Paint It Black” and The Doors’ “Break On Through” adorn the soundtrack of the first two episodes.

With its groundbreaking use of IMAX, Inhumans should have been event television. Instead, it plays safe and makes an opening chapter to a series that is largely stripped of personality and flair. In concentrating on making a splash with its IMAX premiere, it refuses to push boundaries in other, more important areas. Sadly, that means a lacklustre beginning to a series that was meant to wow.

The first chapter of Inhumans screens worldwide exclusively in IMAX from September 1, before airing in its entirety on television and other devices soon after.

>>95029977
Just pirate it instead of giving Ike money

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https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/8/31/16223312/inhumans-marvel-imax

I can’t tell you not to spend more than $20 of your money on Marvel’s Inhumans in IMAX.

For starters, I’ve only seen half of the 90-ish-minute presentation that will be shown in IMAX theaters beginning September 1 (before its ABC debut on September 22 — both versions of the premiere will be subtly different from each other). And what I have seen was clearly marked as “incomplete” and “not for review.”

There is every possibility that in the three weeks since I watched 40-some minutes of this show and now, everyone involved figured out how to make it not a catastrophe.

But I have my doubts.

For starters, the warning that Inhumans was incomplete would seem to apply mostly to the show’s visual effects, which did indeed have some glitchy qualities to work out. That’s common for TV shows with big special effects sequences, which are often tweaked and finessed up until the very last minute. And when you consider that Inhumans boasts the most significant computer-generated character in TV history (a teleporting giant bulldog named Lockjaw), it’s easy to understand why it would remain a work in progress until the very last second.

But I can overlook incomplete effects. I’ve been doing it for years. (My first major assignment was reviewing Battlestar Galactica every week, and that show almost never had completed effects on its screeners.) The key factor in this equation is that the visual effects are one of the last things added to a series — they can’t compensate for bad writing, incompetent direction, or listless performances.

>this is the last I havr

And because this is not a time when I can publish an official review, I will say no more, except that I am highly, highly doubtful that completed effects will fix what’s wrong with Inhumans. All the spiffy teleporting bulldogs in the world won’t be able to overcome this series’ issues.

So, look, I can’t tell you not to spend $20-plus to see the show in IMAX before it officially premieres on ABC. It’s your money, not mine. But one function that critics can serve is that of consumer service — advising you against spending money on something that might make you wish you had spent it on anything else.

What I can tell you is that there are many great things you could spend $20 on this weekend. There are so many good movies out right now. You could buy a novel and read it. You could go bowling or mini golfing or whatever it is the kids are doing these days.

Of course, there are also a lot of things that I definitely wouldn’t spend $20 on this weekend, and I hope you can catch my drift by implication and we don’t get to later in September, when I can actually spell out all of this subtext, only to have you moan, “I wish you had warned me!” That’s what Marvel and ABC are counting on happening — and I hope I’ve winked and nudged just hard enough to clue you in to the fact that $20 could buy enough gas to take you on an excellent mini-road trip, far, far away from any IMAX theaters.

Marvel’s Inhumans is showing in IMAX theaters this weekend and will debut on ABC on Friday, September 22.

>>95029733
I fucking love this gif. Thank you for posting it.

>>95029944
>>95029911
Of all properties to adapt cheaply, classic Inhumans?

Kirby's shit can't be done cheaply. If he wanted a cheap show, why didn't he go with a character like Moon Knight? Why not make a kid-oriented show out of Power Pack?

Why condemn strange characters like the Inhumans, who NEED big spectacle to sell them to general audiences, to such a cheap show?

>>95029995
This is /co/, pirating everything is implicit

>>95029995
Or wait til the end of the month.

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>>95029654
>make a bunch of x-men movies to inspire spin-offs
>shoehorn inhumans afterwards instead

>>95030066
Because this is Ike Perlmutter's frantic struggle to get the Inhumans line off the ground and replace X-Men. And knowing that Perlmutter is a fucking toy CEO and not a movie guy, his dumb ass shit doesn't get films. Like how he told the Iron Man 3 director to change the villain from the scientist girl to Guy Pierce because "girl characters don't sell toys". Hell, this is the guy who used AoU as an advertisement for future MCU films!

THE GUY DOESN'T GET MOVIES OR SHOWS! He assumes you put it on screen and people will come!

Just stop hiring Scott Buck for fucks sake (hee).

But seriously, Scott Buck is terrible. Get rid of him.

>>95030146
>Because this is Ike Perlmutter's frantic struggle to get the Inhumans line off the ground and replace X-Men

And not one part of that has resulted in the Inhumans becoming more popular. This has been going on for what, 4, 5 years now? Both in comics and in film. Did the man never look at an article about how it was being received? Did he even have a plan beyond 'throw Inhumans at the screen'?

>>95030125
They can't legally use X-men. Fox owns the rights right now.

>>95029733
Why are hognose snakes so cute?

>>95030329
to what? movies? so make animated movies. there are comic books and fox doesn't own the rights to comic books do they?

>>95030391
They own the rights to the characters in film.

I'm not sure about straight-to-DVD shit and I'm pretty sure Marvel can produce X-Men animation for TV, but Ike wouldn't want that because he'd see it as nothing more than advertising his competitors product.

>>95030391
Fox/marvel are teaming up for a deadpool fx show. Fox doesn't own the comics

>>95029937
Buck was given the job before people realized Irony Fist was a dud (though IF was not terrible it's clear Buck has no imagination).

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>>95029937
>the whole thing came together in less than nine months
>nine month
It's actually Ike's baby

>>95030424

Ike is stupid then.

>>95030428
fox doesn't own deadpool though does it? that's bullshit

>>95030424
>but Ike
It's the Mouse. Ike is just a toady.

>>95029937
>Once the decision was made to revamp the project for television, and for IMAX, the whole thing came together in less than nine months – in fact, the deal to release to IMAX was signed and announced two months before final scripts were even in place, and it shows.
>Iron Fist was cast two weeks before shooting and choreography was only practised 15 minutes prior to scenes
>this was sharted out over less than a year with an IMAX deal struck before pre-production was anywhere near complete

How is it that no one has taken Ike aside and told him that he doesn't know how film production works? I know he's their boss and all and that he's good with pinching pennies when your company is about to go bankrupt, but this isn't good management, anyone with eyes can see that.

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Reviews are wrong, this random guy is right...

>>95029654
Spider man is owned by sony and appears in movies with the avengers which is owned by disney

but x-men is fucking SOL?

>>95029654

What really pisses me off is the lack of Black Bolt's helmet with the tuning fork on it. Like that's his signature thing! It's like Superman's S-shield emblem.

It's his fashion and utility, because he channels his powers through it.

>>95029660
>>95029673
>>95029703

One thing they really should have done is make the Inhuman's coming to Earth be part of the fact that there are Inhuman's running around Earth right now everywhere and being hunted and killed too.

This should be Blackbolt coming down and taking responsibility and control over the situation. That's when he's at his best. The parts I've seen really well written were when he stands up for the Inhuman's as a group and asserts his power and authority.

>>95030231
More importantly, the guy thought what made the X-Men popular was their "prejudice" themes and not the fact that their leader stabs people. Why is Perlmutter making an X-Men knockoff when he has the Avengers and GOTG? Those brands are worth more than the X-Men films at this point (excluding Deadpool).

And what's worse, none of the current Marvel writing staff has a creative bone in their body, so it's no wonder why the Inhuman stories largely sucked.

>>95030607
>How is it that no one has taken Ike aside and told him that he doesn't know how film production works?
Cause then he'd fire them. This is a guy who works in the Trump Administration after all.

>>95030599
No, it's Ike. The Mouse moved Fiege after Fiege blamed Ike for Age of Ultron failing and Fiege got bigger budgets.

>>95029982
>The series also promises an interesting use of music as it progresses. Moody, if jarring, versions of The Rolling Stones’ “Paint It Black” and The Doors’ “Break On Through” adorn the soundtrack of the first two episodes.

These seems a lot like Perlmuter just did a checklist of what people liked about the MCU without caring about the why or the reasoning.

>>95030671
>Wolverine
>their leader
KILL
YOU
ARE
SELF

>>95029709
>george lucas directing natalie portman in the prequels

it's nuts how fucking amazing an actress portman is in every other thing she's ever done except star wars. smoking hot as fuck too and more talented, but got sidelined. everybody blamed hayden christiansen for episode 3 but it wasn't bad acting, it was shitty dialogue

>>95030654
I'm sure that'll happen either in the show or Agents of SHIELD

>>95030671
How is the Priest book?
>>95030698
>le ebin blame Trump may may
Epic bro! xD

>>95030701
Nah, the "no promoting X Men" shit is all the Mouse. Shithumans wouldn't even exist if it weren't for that mandate.

>>95030786
Link? Because last I checked Ike would straight up tear posters down with the characters.

>>95030146
Ike pretty much ruined Iron Man 3.

It also annoys me how the YouTubers who rant at "SJW Marvel" ignore Ike's role in making Marvel shit.

>>95030714
Don't threaten me. You know normies and Jason Aaron think that.

>>95030766
>Epic bro! xD
Trump hired Perlmutter. Just saying.

>>95030819
>It also annoys me how the YouTubers who rant at "SJW Marvel" ignore Ike's role in making Marvel shit.
Because he didn't care about comics until he found out about the diversity push. I argue with him in the comments, pointing out that Rick Remender created Falcon Cap, and he had no clue who that was.

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>>95030828
THAT'S WHY PEOPLE HATE WOLVERINE AND THE X-MEN?! GO FUCK YOURSELVES X-FAGS! JASON AARON'S RUN WAS GOOD AND SO WAS THE FUCKING CARTOON!

>>95030850
Trump is best buddy with Perly. He even made him leave his basement and go into public.

>>95030816
>Ike would straight up tear posters down with the characters.

You know, for a man with such an obscene amount of money and status, he seems kind of pathetic.

>>95030874
Hold up,since when did people hate Wolverine and The X-Men?It unironically was Marvel's 2nd best cartoon next to Iron-Man:Armored Adventures

>>95030548

deadpool is owned by fox

>>95030947
>You know, for a man with such an obscene amount of money and status, he seems kind of pathetic.
It's almost like having obscene amounts of money and not really having to work for things makes you a very big child.

>>95030974
Ike made his money, he worked to get there.

>>95029729
>Please don't bring that shit in here

Perlmutter started this shit.

>>95030180
After Iron Fist and this blunder, I'd imagine he's on his way out. Unless the rest of the show is miraculously incredible, I can't see them wanting to continue working with this guy.

>>95031218
The first 2 episodes are the ones that were co-funded by IMAX and were supposed to be the CGI spectacle while everything else is more downplayed. If the first 2 episodes look cheap as fuck, then I can't imagine the next 6 getting any better.

>>95031218
What if this bombs so badly that Disney takes Marvel TV out of Ike's control?

>>95031249
What if this makes Disney take Marvel out of Ike's control?

>>95030725
>smoking hot as fuck too and more talented
Don't get too far ahead of yourself.

>>95031249
>>Disney gives Marvel TV to Fiege
That...would be pretty awesome.

>>95030730

Hopefully, but honestly they should have just made them all characters in Agents of SHIELD and left it at that or spun them off afterwards.

>>95031249
>>95031376
>Agents of SHIELD, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, and Daredevil ends this season
>Runaways, Cloak and Dagger, and New Warriors all end
>Damage Control pilot is released
>Most Wanted pilot is released
>"phase one" of TV has ended

>Marvel TV phase two
>Netflix only continues Punisher
>Daredevil gets a movie concluding the show, Defenders guest star
>Netflix goes full horror while the movies go full cosmic:
>Ghost Rider
>Man-Thing
>Howard the Duck animated series
>Blade
>throws Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, and Iron Fist casts into Heroes For Hire show
>time travel show starring AoS characters and Agent Carter on ABC
>Hulu announces She-Hulk, Squirrel Girl, and a Devil Dinosaur cartoon
>Freeform gets nothing
>movies reference TV shows finally

>>95030548
>fox doesn't own deadpool though does it?
Fox owns the live-action film rights to Deadpool since he is considered an X-Men character.

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>>95030714
Pff, shows what you know! I've seen every episode of Wolverine and the X-men, Wolverine is the leader while Cyclops is the rebel with a tude who doesn't play well with others!

Watch the cartoons, Dumbass!

>>95030428
Why is Marvel teaming up with Fox for Legion, Gifted and Deadpool show? It's fishy.

>>95031677
Because Ike was hurt in the feelings by Feige and now is playing with the other team.

Brad Jones give his opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQdqTfwSBOY

>>95029972
>is fish-out-of-water moments turn us against him rather than endear us, showing him up for the privileged and entitled dude he is.

This is such a perfect encapsulation of marvel's entire Inhuman push. Every last one of them are pieces of shit that need their asses squarely beat and have no redeeming qualities, and yet we're supposed to root for them somehow. As if these murderous, entitled, slave-keeping fucks are in any way heroic or sympathetic.

It's baffling.

>>95031350
have you seen her movies? she's an objectively great actress. also have you heard her curse? holy shit diamonds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A0iftflme4

>>95031711
Man, these upcoming weeks are going to be so rewarding. New Fan4stic.

>>95030947
>The same man who rations paper clips wastes good paper by tearing it.

>>95030701
>Age of Ultron failing

>>95032591
It didn't beat Avengers, so it's a failure.

>>95032591
failing to meet expectations. It made money, though.

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I know Kevin Feige doesn't care about TV,

But Disney will definitely going to move the entirety of Marvel TV away from Kike Perlmutter at this point.

Disney doesn't want any Marvel property to lose money, and Kike and Loeb are doing exactly that. Disney will wonder how can a cheapskate like Perlmutter can lose so much money.

Once the Inhumans gets cancelled we will DEFINITELY see Marvel TV moved to Marvel Studios and will finally see movie characters appear in Netflix shows.

This is basically a call for help for Disney to intervene in Marvel TV. There's no way they will let this slide.

>>95032813
Medusa's actress is actually pretty cute.

>>95032813
Someone needs to put their foot down, cause subpar cape stuff will crash everything.

>>95030766
Retconning a lot of old shit really fast. I don't think Priest did any inhumans reading

>>95031677
F4 rights

>>95031711
Damn, Jared got fat

>>95032967
just wait until it's revealed how mediocre the Capitan Marvel movie is and that being the thing that kills the MCU and cape comics in general for a while.

>>95032813
Loeb isn't going anywhere, he just won an Inkpot award for his TV work. Loeb is fine anyway, it's Perlmutter that's the problem.

>>95033844
To continue, look at how how much money their colabs are putting into Legion, Gifted, and Deadpool. Ike's penny-pinching was costing Disney money in the film division and now it's costing them money in the TV division.

I genuinely feel awful for the cast especially Iwan but I just cannot get into this show at all.

>>95033844

It's more likely that Jeph Loeb will have to report to Bob Iger than Ike Perlmutter like what happened to Feige.

>>95032813
haha look at Loeb, alpha as fuck

>>95032813
Looking at this pic I really feel bad for the actors. They were probably happy to join the Marvel juggernaut only to be bashed to oblivion by critics and fans alike.

>>95034166
We can only hope

Anybody got that article where Gus from Breaking Bads actor asked if the role he was being offered was TV or film?

>>95031463
>drops Jessica Jones altogether
ftfy

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>>95029654
>another non-canon show
Who cares...

>>95029729
You, when the guardian review calls inhumans "mutants", you know that they dun goofed

>>95031249
It'd be interesting to see what Disney/Marvel does in the face of an actual flop

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>>95029654
>sharp material you’d expect from the MCU

>>95029733

Thats a cute snek

>>95036190
>“We’ve been trying to figure out how to collaborate on something. I’m hoping that it is something. They came to me with something for their television department, then I realized if I did that, I’d never be able to have that same character be in that film department. Once you’re in a Marvel character in the television version, you have to stay in the particular character. They can’t carry that over to film.”

http://nerdist.com/giancarlo-esposito-wont-be-satisfied-by-a-marvel-tv-role/

>>95029982
>The series also promises an interesting use of music as it progresses. Moody, if jarring, versions of The Rolling Stones’ “Paint It Black” and The Doors’ “Break On Through” adorn the soundtrack of the first two episodes.
FUCK THIS SHIT. FUCK THIS RETRO MUSIC REEEEEEE

>>95030329
And Fox can theoretically sue Marvel for making Inhumans x-men rip-off, just like they did with Mutant X

>>95030671
These brands might be worth more currently, but they don't have yet the long-term appeal the way that X has. The X-Men movie universe is almost 20 years old. Avengers are on their third movie, and they already lost the steam. Same with GOTG. Will people want to see Avengers 5 and GOTG 4? I doubt that. They were flavor of the month, and they can't escape that.

>>95033218
He certainly did, as he originally wanted to do something more about slavery and alpha primitives, according to the interview, but alas, it seems like he was forced to write a tie-in to the show

>>95030511
Is there any way for them to force that fucker to retire or something? Seems like he's gone senile and is intentionally ramming Marvel into as many icebergs as possible out of spite.

>>95030866
So basically half the board when it comes to diversity issues?

Both anti sjw and sjw fags need to BTFO

>>95033785
No if Thor 3 and avengers bombs. Surprisingly Black Panther seems safe.

Doesn't look like it has a generic plot like Dr strange does.

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If these reviews are accurate, Permutter needs to go within the next month or so. He's costing Disney AND Marvel too much money.

Perlmutter is the reason why Inhumans probably won't ever exist in the MCU and Perlmutter is the reason why MvCI isn't going to sell well. Every normie I have talked to about MvCI has said they aren't touching the game due to no X-Men characters in it at all.

Perlmutter is sinking the ship, badly.

>>95036807
yeah there really isn't much Marvel can do to damage control the failure that was the Inhumans but you know damn well the X-men are going to be DLC for MvCI in order to get people to buy it

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>>95036828
If SFV is an indication, no one outside of the game's player base and by extension the FGC will give two shits about the DLC. Also, I'm not expecting more DLC outside of the first six characters, because I am expecting MvCI to bomb hard due to its half assed roster and DLC up the ass which Capcom is giving the feeling of requirement.

Pic related to what Marvel told a producer to say about the non inclusion of X-Men characters. Suffice to say, if Black Panther even has any of Wolverine's moves, it's a sure sign of no X-Men in the future.

>>95036571
Well if Editorial is to blame and they made him change his stuff once he's done he'll air his grievances in his website.

He kind of did when he wrote that Deadpool roast story since he wanted to do a black joke but Marvel didn't let him (and he complained how he was the only black person there and that they were telling him what was offensive to his people).

>>95036807
Are we nearing the end of Ike?

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>>95036879
>Your modern Marvel fan, maybe they don't even remember some of the X-Men characters
>Captain Marvel may seem like a strange pick, but she's fantastic

God i completely forgot about that whole interview due to the functions meme

>>95036895
I think we can expect Priest doing a blogpost AFTER the mini is wrapped. I mean, you don't have to believe in what I posted, but all you have to do is simply read Priest's interview, and compare them to the final product.

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>>95036828
>you know damn well the X-men are going to be DLC
Who gives a flying fuck you cunt? This isn't even an argument, because anyone who's seen anything about MvC:I can see the roster is dogshit and there's no X-Memes. No way are they gonna buy it, even if every single fucking X-Man is confirmed as post DLC for the next 2 years. Hell, the original fucking game was X-Men vs Capcom. Turning them into DLC has literally killed the game.

>tfw I didn't even know it's coming out next week

>>95036928
Hey no need to get so defensive it's just obvious that even if/when MvC:I flops they'll try to do some damage controlling Ultimate edition that actually has X-Men in it, also the game doesn't come out until the 19th

>>95036951
I was just sick of seeing people argue 'but DLC' as if that suddenly makes the problem go away. Ike really has invested in some shills.

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>>95036895
I hope so, though knowing MvCI it's already dead in the water sales wise, which is all companies care about these days.

>>95036928
MvCI comes out on the 19th if that's what you're talking about.

>>95036904
Enjoy what spawned the meme.

>>95036971
Worse, they are doing it FOR FREE

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>>95036981
>that somebody who has associated themselves with Magneto wouldn't be lost with this tile
>even though Magneto isn't in this title
Jesus Christ. You'd think people play characters they LIKE instead of how they play.

>>95029654
>ign
Not even once

>>95037034
The inhumans suck, Ike

>>95036552
>. Avengers are on their third movie, and they already lost the steam. Same with GOTG. Will people want to see Avengers 5 and GOTG 4?
We really won't know until we get there. Spider-Man is still a high seller, for example.

>>95036911
Yeah, he touched a bit on the Alpha Primitive thing in the first issue but it looks like that was dropped in favor of having the Inhumans in New York.

>>95036981
Jesus Christ, there's no way they could have excused the "No X-Men" thing and they did it in the worst possible way.

At least the generic rights issues or "ask Marvel" redirecting would have been better than this.

>>95037227
They could have said the X-Men were left out the base roster in order to let new characters shine even if that is a blatant lie.

>>95032310
Still haven't seen Fan4stic, but I'll always appreciate it for all the ammo it gave to e-critics. RLM shitting on it being one of my favorites.

HELLO WHORE
>>95037532
Haven't seen it either and have no desire to, but I love Fant4stic because it led to storytimes of actually good FF comics including the ones I wasn't familiar with.

>>95029733
>God, I really hope this doesn't ruins Iwan's career.

It won't. The problems with the show have nothing to do with his acting, and he has years worth of GoT material to showcase what he can actually do.

>>95030231
>And not one part of that has resulted in the Inhumans becoming more popular.

Worse. It's actually damaged the Inhumans popularity.
Push come to shove, if you fuck over a beloved franchise like The X-Men to actively push a less popular franchise, you're only going to hurt the less popular franchise.

That's what you get for shiting on X-MEN

>>95037586
And hiring Scott Buck.

>>95030714

The X-Men have had many leaders of the years besides Prof. X and Rightclops.
Wolverine, Rogue, Emma, Storm, and even Magneto just to name a few.
Hell, The X-Men.
And as far as casuals are concerned, Logan has gotten more exposure as team leader in non-comics media than Cyclops has.

Maybe you should try reading a comic book sometime before you judge people and deem that they should commit the greatest insult to God next to eating meat on Friday and fucking your own mother.

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>>95037590

For TWO DIFFERENT SHOWS.

That's a Jon Peters level of failing upwards. The last season of Dexter has a reputation about on the level of AIDS and Snickers bars with razor blades in them, and he's getting the keys to the kingdom.

I mean fucking hell.

Fuck the Inhumans (Imax)

How do they fuck this up so bad?

Agents of SHIELD spent YEARs gradually building up the Inhumans mythos, only for this drama to piss all over that.

Agents of SHIELD Season 5 will be amazing compared to this slow moving disaster

>>95037652
>Agents of SHIELD Season 5 will be amazing compared to this slow moving disaster
truly the most damning indicator of how bad inhumans is

>>95037660

AoS is good m8. has been since S2.

>inb4 knife fingers lady

I can cherry-pick too.

You know I was actually sad that it could not be a movie.
Not because I wanted it but because it feels unfair to ike that he delivered his half of the deal but did not receive his own.
I know he needed to be removed from the movies in general but it's sad it had to come at the cost of this.

>>95037660
>>95037666
AoS has been good for awhile now, it's lauded despite the neglect it receives from the movies department and the rest of Marvel TV, apparently.

Why did they throw money at getting famous actors like Ramsey Bolton instead of polishing up the script to be less shit?

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NOOOOOOOOOOOO
STOP THIS
BUY MY INHUMANS OR ELSE I WILL KILL MORE X-MEN

>>95037681

>Ramsey Bolton
>expensive

UK actors cost six pence and a ham sandwich. And I doubt Anson Mount cost much either.

>>95037703
Do it. I fucking hate the X-Men too.

>>95030231
>'throw Inhumans at the screen'?
throwing shit at people until they like it is the basic corporate MO

>>95036571
>>95037227
What interview, because oldest one I found mentions them going to new york

http://www.cbr.com/interview-christopher-priest-inhumans-once-and-future-kings/

and it would have been before the comic was even solicited

>>95029798
>Showrunner Scott Buck’s instincts to rely more on his characters than on his plot is a good instinct - but because the acting and the production values seem so wooden
As if the Inhumans weren't already inherently wooden.
They're bad characters who* were only ever passable as supporting roles at best.

*Aside from that one Jenkins/Lee series which proves the exception to the rule.

>>95030066
>Kirby's shit can't be done cheaply.
A billion-dollar budget wouldn't solve the fact that these characters barely have any personality, a dubious convoluted origin, and a place in the Marvel Universe without purpose or dynamism.

>>95031806
Buh buh MUH KIRBY
He do good at everyding
He genius man who always create perfect!

>>95037666
>never kept up with the show
>watching one day, see this lady with little prison capsules over her fingers
>think she's got some sort of Lady Deathstroke/Sabertooth/Penance finger-blade-claw situation going on
>turns out they're just razor blades literally bolted to her fingertips

It was a looooong time before I watched another episode after that.

>>95029709
>She kills a civilian and says "I don't like being touched."
This sounds like something straight out of an MCU flick. Why is it suddenly bad dialogue now? Interesting.

>>95038033

>This sounds like something straight out of an MCU flick

God I hate this style of argument.

>MCU MOVIES HAVE JOKES SO CLEARLY ANY BAD ONE LINER IS LIKE AN MCU FILM DOUBLE STANDARDS AREN'T I CLEVER

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honestly the Inhumans only work when they are villians or supporting characters

>>95038232
The anti-quip people are a hundred percent more obnoxious than any shitty joke in any film

>>95038380
No, they are not.

>shitty Dexter seasons
>Iron Fist
>Inhumans
is it over for Scott Buck?

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>>95039899
it should have been over after Dexter but somehow he keeps getting work
>inb4 Marvel puts him on Moon Knight

>>95038571
I agree with you, he's wrong.

The anti-quip people aren't a hundred percent more obnoxious than any shitty joke in any film, they're actually two hundred percent more obnoxious than any shitty joke in any film.

>>95032813
who's the cute round lady on the right?

>>95032953
you know you fucked up when you make Serinda Swan look ugly... btw, she was Zatanna on Smallville

>>95029654
>not the sharp material you’d expect from the MCU
Kek. I can't even take the reviews for this seriously.

>>95029972
>The best superhero series draw a fine line between good and evil. Protagonists are troubled, while antagonists often have a sympathetic side
then
>a rousing speech given by Maximus at the end will have you baffled as to how you’re meant to feel
Inhumans seems like shit, but whoever wrote this contradicted himself. He's just trying to find things to gripe about.

>>95033844
Loeb and Quesada are obviously staying, you'd have to stupid to think otherwise.

Even though for every great choice (Charlie Cox was their one and only pick for Daredevil) they make some fuck up (killing Ben Urich season 1)

It never looked good.

Well maybe when they announced it and announced the cast, but after that teasers and trailers were just meh.

It's just sad. Inhumans are cool characters. And this is what we get? Wait for Phase 4 or even Phase 5. TV is not for Inhumans. Maybe HBO, but not ABC.

>>95043870
Agents of Shield has been handling Inhumans really well though.

>>95037823
From my memory, before that interview (probably during some con?), I've read that Priest was fascinated by Alpha Primitives, and that The Unspoken became the unspoken, because he wanted to liberate the Alpha Primitives, and discard of the weapon that would give Inhumans complete upper hand, which both Karnak and BB considered a fatal flaw, which resulted in Unspoken being dethroned. The mini was supposed to give a definitive origin of inhumans, alas, at some point, the plans changed.

>>95037532
>>95037551
It's a decent movie, some people say that it's a good Doom Patrol movie

>>95044022
Too bad that they were literally not-x-men

>>95044757
It's over, Trank. No amount of shilling will change that now.

>>95044813
That's why I say that I liked it. There's no point in lying now, because nobody cares anymore. I liked the movie, even if it wasn't a good FF movie

>>95044735
>before
That was the announcement interview anon. It was taken before the con and released on the day it was announced in C2E2.

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>Jae Lee works on the promo art for Suicide Squad
>Jae Lee works on the promo art for Inhumans
Guys...

>>95044997
Different anon. That would imply that Priest is a hack, which is why a lot of anons are in denial

>>95045494
Stop using the same reaction image, tripfag

>>95037710
It's too bad Mount is in this shit, he was good in Hell on Wheels

>>95030955
It was a great cartoon and was highly rated. Marvel canceled it.

>>95045494
It doesn't mean the shitHuamns will do wel since Suicide Squad's number were only propped up they shilled the fuck out of Joker/Harley Quinn being in the movie and normies love those two

>>95032624
It made a profit. The suits don't care about anything else.

>>95037680
Same.

>>95030766
It's okay, but I think there was some editorial meddling since Priest doesn't seem like the guy to blatantly ignore continuity.

>>95029797
the thing is that you don't have to be an xfag to feel vindicated.

the inhumans push was doomed to fail the moment ike had it in his head that they could replace the xmen with them.

>>95029890
the official theme of the inhumans push

https://youtu.be/uE8EhJ9gS28