Marvel died when wolverine died. Prove me wrong Pro-tip:

>>95019991
Marvel died after first civil war

>>95020017
That was it's downfall not it's death.

>>95019991
where's his statue now? the school?

>>95019991
I agree. And killing Scott was pissing on it's dead corpse

>>95019991
Nope, it was when they stopped publishing the Fantastic Four.

>>95020293
Wait they killed scott? I've barely read marvel since Logan died. The new marvel now X-men comics really ruined it for me and I haven't been up to date for a few years.

>Magneto of all people doesnt do shit to see if he can free Logan
>Neither does Polaris
>Nor Kitty
I guess nobody liked dude that much or just assume that old man Logan is a good enough replacement.
I'd consider a good twist if Logan did got out and went live a happy life somewhere else away from gay Iceman, ftm Kitty and the rest of the bullshit that's currently into X-men.

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>>95019991
Then after it died
This is when Marvel became a zombie that needs to be wiped from the face of the earth for spreading a cancerous plague

>>95020376

Death of X.
The Inhumans terrigen cloud was poisonous to mutants, killed Scott, Emma used her powers to make it seem like he wasn't dead, then Black Bolt "killed" him,

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>>95020402
why are you posting best carol? Her old suit made her look like 2$ whore. use that as an example of why things were shit

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>>95020396
>Kitty

Wait what the fuck you're totally right. Kitty could just phase him out of there without any issue, what's her fucking problem?

>>95020429
>Mutants get gassed to death by a superior race

Pottery

>>95020509

And don't forget, the Inhumans were the good guys and tried to get pushed by Marvel. And Scott was labeled worse than Hitler.

>>95020396
>>95020488

hes not dead because he got covered in molten adamantium and is trapped in there.
hes dead because his healing factor broke and wasn't working fast enough to keep him alive.

Marvel died doing One More Day

>>95019991
That's Silver Surfer and you shouldn't tell those kinds of lies on the internet.

>>95020543
It's not like we haven't seen people who lost the healing factor get it back again. They wanted to kill wolverine cause that was the last piece of dignity in marvel.

>ywn see simone bianchi draw wolverine again.

why even live

>>95020543
I guess thats right but if i had to come up with some bullshit reason as to why he would be able to keep living would be that an extreme traumatic situation for his body would cause his healing factor to jump start into a mode wich would be "well shit, now i have to keep this fucker alive without food nor air".
When they do bring him back, wich they will sooner or later, i wonder how they'll get around that though.

>>95020479
>Those hips
>her thigh gap

Yu is based.

>>95020479
Do you like how they gave her a man face 70% of the time and also reduced her breast size?

>>95020640

Life-long Wolverine fan here. Glad he's dead, hope he never comes back. Marvel shows they haven't had any good ideas of what to do with him for decades now other than make derivative, demographic spin-offs of the Wolverine formula. The character, like most of their IPs, has been mined dry creatively.

>>95020640

why would you want Simone Bianchi to draw anything ever

>>95020181
Under the floorboards of an old shack in canada

>>95019991
Marvel died when the first Civil War was their most successful event ever.

>>95020479
>Her old suit made her look like 2$ whore.
>this isn't a good thing
Cheap aryan cumdumpster was the best.

>>95020642
>They retrieve his soul from Hell and put it into a merged gestalt body made from Old Man, Laura and the blonde faggot from Ultimate
>A villain steals the Logan statue to get the Adamantium, through PLOT he manages to re-melt it. Turns out that Logans healing factor can go into hibernation and he regenerates inside the vat of molten Adamantium.
>After the success of Spider-verse, WolverVerse is up next! But the inter dimensional team of Wolverines can't win without the OG, so through the power of PLOT the revive him to fight the evil Negatooth Empire

>>95019991
It died awhile before that anon. There was some post mortum twitching.

>>95020828
This

>>95020739
I was sick and tired of the way they always portrayed wolverine as wary, 'retired' man who just wanted to it to stop. And he would lose in any scrap in every comic against another hero. Fuck that I want to see him go feral and apeshit again on some avengers.

>>95020751
Because the way he draws males is fucking sick. Especially the more feral animal like characters like wolverine, sabretooth etc.

He should stop drawing women tho.

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>>95020830
>WolverVerse is up next!
It's been done.

>>95021079
Psssh, only 6 Wolverines? Thats not a 'verse' it's barely a galaxy! Clearly you need in excess of 12 Wolverines for a proper 'verse'

>>95021250
There's several hundred in the comic

>>95021273
It doesn't count until 'gwenverine'

>>95020429
They killed Cyclops in Avengers vs X-men. The idea of the character at least.

Marvel died when they chased Claremont off X-Men. That was the moment they crossed the line from being about creating a quality product to being soulless short-term profit mongers.

And they passed the point of no return when they laid off their own creators for the first time since they changed from Atlas to Marvel and outsourced their comics to Liefeld and Lee's studios.

>>95020968
>And he would lose in any scrap in every comic against another hero.
That was to balance out his other traits so he doesn't come off as a Mary Sue.

>>95020029
No it's downfall was Avengers Disassembled

>>95020739
>Marvel shows they haven't had any good ideas of what to do with him for decades now other than make derivative, demographic spin-offs of the Wolverine formula. The character, like most of their IPs, has been mined dry creatively.
This has been true of every popular superhero for decades now. To say this is just a problem with Wolverine and Marvel is laughable.

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>>95020479
>>95020677
I never understood the asspain over Carol, she was great porn material but a shit character outside of that, now her appearance just reflects who she is.

>>95022399

Of course, faggot. It extends to DC as well as any other serialized intellectual property that regularly and arbitrarily ( relative to the demands of dramatic storytelling ) changes creative direction over the course of decades.

>>95022550
heh it's kinda true but now we don't get to look at her hot self and we're stuck with this ugly lesbian bitch.

The process of destruction of the X-Men franchise went like this


Avengers vs X-Men: A) Destruction of Phoenix Lore (The Phoenix is now inherently evil and destroys inhabited planets for the lulz, Phoenix Hosts needs to train Kung Fu with Iron Fist to be able to handle the Phoenix) B) Scott Summers is a villain who kills Charles Xavier. C) Wolverine chooses the Avengers over the X-Men, continuing with his uncletomization. Avengers = good, X-Men = bad.

Bendis: The O5 come back from the past, now the teen X-Men team is the one of the 60s of the book that got cancelled before Claremont, the real new mutants go back to being wallpaper or students, even if they have graduated. Also, Iceman is now Gay.

Axis: Pietro and Wanda are no longer Magneto's Kids

Wolverines: Wolverine dies.

Death of X + IvX: Cyclops dies and Emma Frost is now a villain who killed countless inhumans, + some kind of crazy Cyclops obsessed widow too.

all this in the last 5 years.

Fantomex is the only thing that survived from Morrison's run. (we also have Xorn, but then, for Morrison Xorn was Magneto, and we also have Ernst, but for Morrison she is Cassandra Nova)

>>95022616
>Axis: Pietro and Wanda are no longer Magneto's Kids
Wasn't there a time when everyone thought they were Miss America and Whizzer's kids?

>>95020778
In Watcher Nick Fury's rose garden on the moon,

>Logan and Scott are dead
WHAT THE FUCK

>>95021079
The only other Wolverine I think should come back is the robot one.

>>95022354
But they way over did it.

>>95022693
Yeah, in the 70's.

>>95022616
>marvel tries to destroy x-men
>tries to do a super push to inhumans
>they canceled the inhumans movie
>the inhumans tv series looks like pure shit
this is what Marvel gets for treat x-men like shit.

>>95020293

They were both killed by the same guy right?

>>95022693
over 30 years ago.

Retconning it was a mistake because it retroactively ruins many comics in which that relationship was important.
Also, it didnt make sense with regards to continuity. Wanda herself depowered her brother in House of M when she said "no more mutants". Pietro was a mutant back then. And Pietro was also the son of Magneto in the Ultimate universe, and the son of Magneto in the Age of Apocalypse timeline.

It was done so that people who decide to buy a comic (or trade of her solo) featuring the Scarlet Witch after watching a MCU movie dont get confused.

>>95019991
but only hardcore 90's kids still give a shit about sniktbub and most of them are already dead from heart attacks

At last Xavier is all right

>>95022746
In a way, X-Men getting treated like shit is almost like karma for how oversaturated they were in the 80s and 90s.
Almost because not even they derserve the Inhumanity.

>>95022779
>And Pietro was also the son of Magneto in the Ultimate universe, and the son of Magneto in the Age of Apocalypse timeline.
Not that I disagree with you on your other points but these are alternate continuities, where it wouldn't matter who's related to who.

>>95022779
>It was done so that people who decide to buy a comic (or trade of her solo) featuring the Scarlet Witch after watching a MCU movie dont get confused.
>Yet they make their biggest heroes legacy characters that don't match up with the movies.
Marvel can't even get synergy right.

>>95022783
>sniktbub

nice name.

>>95019991
>Prove me wrong
>Pro-tip: you can't :^)

Of course I can.

You are now manually remembering the D*sney buyout.

>>95023140
>You are now manually remembering the D*sney buyout.

no. You are now manually thinking about an anal prolapse with poopoo

>>95022859
>Not that I disagree with you on your other points but these are alternate continuities, where it wouldn't matter who's related to who.

Age of Apocalypse happened because the timeline diverted when Legion accidentally killed Xavier. It's not completely disconnected the way the Ultimate Universe was.

>>95020396
>ftm Kitty
what

>>95019991
>Pro-tip: you can't :^)

Wolverine was never good.

>>95023213
Fagboys can't handle pixie cuts.

>>95022550
>now her appearance just reflects who she is.
But it doesn't.

>>95022783
yeah the people who kept buying comics when marvel was going bankrupt
the only reason you shit bag millenials even have your precious MCEU is because we kept that shit show alive by buying wolverine comics
and after you fair-weather faggots have stopped buying movie tickets and move on to the next fad, we'll still be there buying comics

You dorks say you like Wolverine, but you're bemoaning Old Man Logan who is arguably the best that character has been since the early 90s. I think your autist brains just don't like change.

>>95023324
>being a company fag
Way worse than being fair weather to be perfectly honest.

>>95021079
That young wolvie causes conflicting emotions. On one side I can feel his pain, on the other I want him to man up and stop wearing a nightie.

>>95019991
Did he have his healing powers at that point? I remember him losing them, but did he get them back before adamantium statuefied him? That would be pretty fucking terrifying (but very interesting plotpoint) way to "die".

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>>95023257
Sure it does

>>95019991
oh you silly boy. comics died in 1993 when they finally stopped doing the only thing they do well: entertaining prepubescent boys

>>95020542
remember when Inhumans have slaves

>>95023517
Didn't the Inhumans have their own slaves in the Alpha Primitives?

>>95020640
I miss Simone Bianchi on X-Men.

>>95022616
>Avengers vs X-Men

This. This is where Marvel went off the rails on a nonstop ride into the shit-filled sewers.

>>95023554
yes thats whay I was referring to

>>95023324
Marvel went bankrupt specifically because they were pandering to your ilk, dumping money into more and more X-Men books and firing their creators so they could pay former X-Men artists to "revamp" their other characters to appeal to X-Fags.

You bought anything with an X on it but you didn't buy Cap, Thor, Iron Man, Avengers, or Hulk, and now you're assmad that the pendulum has swung the other way and Avengers characters are the ones that pay the bills instead of Wolverine and Cable.

And don't even try to say "but I bought those books!" because even if you did, most other X-Fags that as you say kept them alive in those times did not.

>>95023135
Is this your first time on the internet?

>>95019991
Marvel officially ended during Secret Wars.

>>95020017
First secret war was the beginning of the end.

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>>95024240
>Avengers characters are the ones that pay the bills instead of Wolverine and Cable
>he actually believes this

>>95024240
Because x-men was so much better than thor and iron man in those days.

I literally didn't like thor comics until after 2000s. Same with Iron-man. He got good when actual irl technology got good. Deadpool and wolverine/x-men were all I read back as a teen.

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>>95024264
<<<kill yourself. Rope's on me.

>>95025896
That was definitely when the Shooter era started to go wrong.

>>95026526
>he didn't read Simonson's Thor
I'd follow this piece of advise: >>95026561

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>>95020313
I agree. Once they started to push away the Fox owned characters was when they died. I'd say The First Marvel NOW was the last time the company was good.

>>95026664
both me.

And I regret not reading it now but idc I come here to shit post now. I haven't read an actual comic in a long time. I just re-read the daniel way comic series for fun.

>>95023476
Looks prettier, more feminine than official arts. Marvel would not approve.

>>95026824
>Marvel NOW
>good
This is how we can tell you're a newfag who got into comics after the movies.

>>95020396
>>95020488
Do you guys not realize he lost his healing and got covered in MOLTEN metal?

Its bullshit he was even able to walk far enough for that panel, his muscles and skin would be melting.

Not to mention asphyxiation even if he miraculously survived.

Theres no logical quick fix to that, he died hard.

>>95027573
I just read that. In my mind I thought it was a typo of some sorts. kek.

>>95027845
The point is that they made no effort what so fucking ever to revive him. Of course logically he would have died either way but you know when people get into car accident and they are smashed into little pieces and fragments? They still collect that stuff as best they can.

Marvel died during AVX proving avengers were right and mutants are always wrong.Age ultron was early symptoms of something wrong now with even after event and tumbler infected the staff and the twitter there's nothing left to save except.Burn it all down retry again

>>95028069
Nobody discovered him until he was dead for like days though.

>>95022550
She symbolises the move to a more SJW tumblr degenerate era
Marvel together with kamala and miles
and whor


And the dyke haircut and masculine body looks disgusting

>>95020429
Wait, how did Emma make it seem like he wasn't dead?

>>95019991
then old man logan took its place.
i'm not with you on this one, OP. old man logan is a quite decent comic... even if they're forcing the classic logan's look on the old dude.

>>95023454
the healing factor can collapse with the lack of oxygen. it's quite good, but it can't work miracles.
and that was one of the reasons everyone got pissed when they burned logan to the bones in civil war, yet he was able to regenerate from scratch.

>>95020017
Close. It died the moment Civil War happened.

>>95028367
Nah, Civil War itself was awful but the Initiative and Dark Reign were good.

>>95028257
She projected him into everyone's mind to make it seem like he was around. Don't even ask me how this works with video or pictures taken from this.

>>95023568
When xfags think the world revolves around the X-Men. FF by Fraction and then Robinson was pretty good desu

>>95028485
Really? This raises so many questions on how that works.

>>95019991
Cape comics have always sucked.

>>95028555

AvX involved the whole company friendo. Making it an x-men only story would have improved it greatly.

And having a good book or two doesn't mean they aren't dead. The entirety of the X-Stable is unreadable right now, and everything else is garbage -- but I'm still reading Gwenpool.

>>95023213
If you read the current issues of X-Men you'll notice that Kitty now has a male body 70% of the time. Let retards like >>95023228 tell you its the haircut though, its hilarious.

>>95027845
Welcome to comics.

>>95029234
t. fagboy

>>95029234
Examples?

>>95023324
>>95024240

And don't forget Spider-man...always spider-man, 50%-40% Marvel it's active is because spider-man

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>>95029739
X-men gold

>>95030193
Eh gads that's bad.

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>>95019991
Pretty certain marvel died Cyclops.

>>95030193
wtf is going on with colossus arms

>>95019991
Bullshit Marvel died right around the Heroic Age in 2010-2011. It has since just died more and more.

>>95019991
>Wanting characters to come back to life
Typical capeshit fan

>>95022377
Fucking Bendis. Seven fucking years he shat on the Avengers.

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>>95020029
>>95020789
>>95020877
>>95023568
>>95024409
>>95028367
>>95028475
>>95030751

It seems like the consensus view is that Marvel died sometime after Civil War within 2-3 years. Multiple reasons are to blame including a reliance on Event comics, loss of writers, and rise of Bendis, Alonso, etc.

So somewhere between 2011-2013?

>>95020677
>t. perveted old lonely white male
Appreciate Mahvel for the excellent stories they are publishing instead of the sex appeal you want to ogle at in their women characters.

>>95031066
>Appreciate Mahvel for the excellent stories they are publishing instead of the sex appeal you want to ogle at in their women characters.
>excellent stories they are publishing
>excellent stories

BAIT.

But really I wish Marvel was good again. They had a great resurgence from 2000-2008(ish?). Their books are just garbage now, and as much as people want to blame MUH SJWs, it has way more to do with letting writing talent walk, shitty artistic direction, and a incompetent front office.

>>95031013
I'd say it died for me right after AvX... They started full on character assassination for their main characters.

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>>95031574
samefag here

I now realize I bitch about Marvel constantly because I just want them to be good again.

My feels.