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I stopped reading Homestuck around Cascade. I remember leaving

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I stopped reading Homestuck around Cascade. I remember leaving the fandom where everyone was dressing up as trolls to coming back and seeing constant "RIP" or "Hussie fell from grace" comments.

Outside of the whole King's Quest stolen money controversy, what the hell happened? What did Hussie do that scared the fandom away so hard?
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>>95018420
His dad died and Hussie took a long break from the comic. When it did return it had lost all momentum and most of the cast were sidelined for new characters. It just ran out of steam towards the end and we should be thankful it was finished at all.

It became the anime it was always meant to be.
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>>95018420
Great time to stop reading.
Even makes for a decent conclusion to the story.
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>>95018811
this. i wish hussie died soon after its release so we could forever wonder what could have been, instead of the nightmare reality we were thrust into soon afterwards.
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>>95018420
How's things going falseflagger?
Annyway, after last thread died Gamasutra revealed Hiveswap will be $8 on Steam and $12 with the soundtrack.
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>>95018420
Hussie stopped caring. He broke off all contact and interaction with fans, didn't update Hiveswap for months at a time and attempted to turn Homestuck into a franchise by starting multiple projects headed by other people. And that's not even mentioning how the story and characters went to shit.
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>>95018995
still pirating
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>>95019043
I mean, if I had a fanbase like Homestuck's I'd probably do the same. I get it.
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>>95018995
I'd rather pirate it and make donations to the folks who did the soundtrack than give Huss a cent. MSPA still hasn't been updated with a newspost.
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>>95019092
>Implying most of that money will go to Huss
Considering the people making it, I'd pirate it anyway.
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It could have been good, damn it
It could have been good
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>>95019043
And then people like Shelby and Cohen took control over the story and ruined everything even more.
I can't believe there are actual people defending Slick's death.
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>>95019173
The signs have rot have been there quite some time. He just kept on expanding and expanding the scope of the story. But I think the worst part of it all was a certain vapid cunt.
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>>95019221
dude ultimate selves lmao
what do you mean bec noir killed all of the kid's guardians, he's the exact same as slick
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>>95019235
>But I think the worst part of it all was a certain vapid cunt.
Don't let Hussie off so easily. The only thong he really cared about was proving that Homestuck was his cow. Everything else was secondary.
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>>95018715
>we should be thankful it was finished at all

OH FUCK NO

The ending sucked horsedick, it would've been better off if he never finished it honestly. Then at least the fans could bicker endlessly on how it went down according them instead of just being soul crushingly dissappointed.
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>>95019274
You're absolutely right, the bottom line is that Hussie is responsible for all of Homestuck's faults. But I do think that Rachel was a corrupting force.
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>>95019173
Indeed it could have...
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>>95019266
>>95019221
Saw this thing yesterday.
Enjoy.
https://medium.com/@RoseOfNobility/et-tu-hussie-on-spades-slick-bec-noir-eb3f310df974
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>>95019377
too good for this world it seems...
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I'll never not be mad about this.
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>>95019604
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>>95019604
My god, that girl needed a hug or a hundred. Seriously, John ending up with (Vriska) instead of Vriska might have been better for both of them.

And why is there next to no art with John/(Vriska)?
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>>95019414
I think they make valid points, SS wasn't a hero and BN wasn't a character driven solely by murderlust, but my biggest issue isn't that Spades died, it's that Bec Noir just completely replaced him. It plays into the whole "each self is actually pretty much the same" and "absolute cunts don't receive consequences if they serve the goals of paradox space" themes that seemed to just pop up towards the end of the comic.
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>>95019650
Because John explicitly stated that he had no interest in Vriska, and that was before she went dyke.
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>>95019650
while passing through his little "conair sucks" crisis john lashed out at her for her horrible deeds and pretty much burn that bridge
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John is an unlikable faggot.
All the power in the world and he fucking squanders it. He deserves to be alone an unhappy.
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>>95019827
But then he came to love conair again. So what I'm trying to say is that he should fuck vriska
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>>95019604

Yeah seriously. Why did Hussie shit all over the Vriska that was actually the most relatable and had the most character development?
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>>95019873
but witch Vriska?
"Vriska": the one that john punched via retcon
(vriska): the one that lead a ghost army to its double death in order to retrieve the secret weapon and later got cucked by herself
A-vriska : Aranea's dancestor
or
[vriska] : the one that actually got to fight bec noir.
really with his recton powers he could get any iteration of vriska he wanted
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>>95019173
He ruined KANAYA. HE FUCKING RUINED KANAYA. HOW DO YOU MAKE THE CHAINSAW WIELDING VAMPIRE FASHION GIRL BORING.

>>95019221
Seriously fuck cohen and shelby.

>>95019650
Ghost John and Ghost Vriska were a better pairing but you know uhhhh fucking lord english.
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>>95019836
Well said, Dr. Zaius
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>>95020067
>HOW DO YOU MAKE THE CHAINSAW WIELDING VAMPIRE FASHION GIRL BORING.
By making her gay and making her purpose to be Rose's prize girlfriend, completely killing her character by that process.
It's not fair, I remember her initial conversations being so good, especially the dave one.
It's not fair.
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>>95018420
The mix of the kickstarter shit and the death of Hussie's dad made him take a long hiatus.

By the time he returned to the comic he had lost track of what he was even doing, and the quality wasn't up to par with his previous work. It led to him hitting a big reset button to retcon a solid third of the narrative so he could start fresh, and to line it up better with the Act 7 flash he commissioned years in advance. He also started handing more work over to other people, to the point where the last 50-100 pages of his own comic were not written or drawn by him. Tons of shit was left completely unresolved in his desperate need to wrap everything up, and the final act was mostly spent recapping the character arcs of these new versions of each character that developed mostly off-panel in a montage.

The kickstarts even worse off. After turning WhatPumpkin into a videogame studio he's still had to scrap the project and restart it twice over, with a lot of the current staff not even being present on the second iteration of Hiveswap. It got delayed out of January for bug testing, and only got a new release date this week set for September. This is just for the first episode, of which four are planned, and no works been done on the next three yet.

Hussie's ridiculous update schedule he had at the comics height seems to have been a crutch more than good work ethic. As soon as he stopped making shit up on the spot daily and had to start penning an actual finale it was obvious he had no idea what he was doing.
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>>95020067
>HOW DO YOU MAKE THE CHAINSAW WIELDING VAMPIRE FASHION GIRL BORING.
By keeping her on the sidelines and making her hardly ever speak.
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>>95020175
>By making her gay and making her purpose to be Rose's prize girlfriend, completely killing her character by that process.

The common denominator in Homosuck's downfall is that Hussie tried his best to reduce all characters to a single note. In Kanaya's case, she's the lesbian and can do no other thing than being the lesbian.
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>>95020039
(vriska)
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>>95018420
>King's Quest stolen money controversy


Woah, wait, what?
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Ayy caramba! Este juego tardó más para llegar a mi visa legal! Yo voy a coger Hiveswap para celebrar el Día de los Muertos!
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I'm glad to to have left Homestuck so soon. This game is looking worse than my Trump jokes!
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Ho ho ho, no coal to give this year! Bad kids will get Hiveswap instead!
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>>95019764
In other words: Slick was brutally cucked.
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>>95020540
Hussie gets $2 mil for Homestuck game. Hires studio to work on it. Over the course of months, they give him stagger updates of little quality to eventually cutting off all contact. He had to fly out to their studio just so he could get some answers then found out they used a large portion of the budget he gave them to fund their other games.

People asked Hussie why didn't he sue but that would have eaten up more time and money and most likely left him with nothing left to make the game, so he took his remaining $1 mil to make the game. This was over the span of four or five years I think.
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>>95020701

Oh. Are either the Homestuck or King's Quest games good?
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>>95020300
>The common denominator in Homosuck's downfall is that Hussie tried his best to reduce all characters to a single note.
It's almost like he read that Homestuck/Touhou pasta and made the characters even simpler and more numerous out of spite.
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>>95020738
Homestuck game is coming out in September, dunno about King's Quest. It seems to have decent enough reviews on Steam, but I wouldn't give your money to a studio who ripped someone off to fund their other shit, even if it is good.
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>>95019604
>>95019650
>>95019937
WOOP WOOP
Here comes the weenie patrol.

(Vriska) is fucking terrible in every regard. Yes, she was no longer a destructive bitch, but that isn't because she overcame her issues, she just abandoned the positive traits she had and ran away from everything. And she certainly wasn't a more healthy person, her core flaw was always her need to be someone else and obtain some poorly defined ideal even she wasn't fully clear on, and instead of facing that problem she just found a new identity (Meenah) to latch onto, this time with the option of forming a codependent relationship to really kick that complex into overdrive. She didn't grow up, she ran away.

(Vriska) was a selfish, cowardly, and pathetic loser, and as bad as Vriska backsliding her character arc to basically the beginning of 5.2, it's still a far better outcome than that.
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Would've Kanaya worked better if she had been a human?
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>>95020954
what if she had been a caparace?
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>>95020039
Man, the retcon really should have been to just go grab [Vriska]. I mean Jesus, someone who reaches a moral climax, fails, sees the fruits of their arrogance, then gets a second chance? That's the most idiot proof character arc I've ever heard.
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>>95020988
THAT'S NOT A CARAPACE.
FEMALE CARAPACES ARE BALD.
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>>95021075
THEY HAVE WIGS DUMB ASS.
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>>95021075
she's wearing a wig.
what did you expect, she's still a vampire fashion queen
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A presence can be felt by those who have followed the epic saga
As told by the Insane Clown Posse;
It is a presence that is synonymous
With the crumbling of time itself
Thus emerges, a being so powerful that
He can exist between both the land of the living
And that of the dead
He goes by many names
But is known to the living only as: The Wraith
He walks upon worlds forgotten
And descends from Heaven's faded to gray
To witness the death of all mortal things
So that He may guide the departed upon the path that they have chosen
(Shangri-La)
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>>95021124
>>95021116
FIRST OF ALL
WHEN CREATED, BOTH HD AND NB WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE CARAPACES.
AND SECOND OF ALL
CARAPACES ARE COMPLETELY UNAWARE OF EITHER HUMAN AND TROLL CULTURE.
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>>95021301
Remember when Lord English was basically a force of unbridled destruction who existed in multiple Universes, taking multiple forms and devouring the carcasses of said Universes? And even his true name was enough to strike terror into people? Remember when he started killing what are basically the Elder Gods of the series?

Fucker never killed a single main timeline character, barring Hussie's avatar.
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>>95021352
THEY HAVE PROHIBITION ERA GANGSTERS, WHAT KIND OF IDIOTIC FUCKING WORLD DO YOU LIVE IN WHERE PROHIBITION ERA GANGSTERS CAN SPONTANEOUSLY SPAWN TRILBYS, BUT SOMEHOW THE INVENTION OF WIGS IS A CONCEPT TOO LUDICROUS TO CONSIDER?
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Problem Sleuth was better.
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>>95021014
>>95021014
it would have been great.
But I think it would have been better if she got recovered at least a year after deafeating Bec Noir,
think about it.
Beaten to a pulp winning just by the skin of her teeth, left wounded and stranded all by herself.
With nothing to do but reflect upon her actions for a whole year.
As >>95020857 said, her core flaw is always needing to latch onto someone else, left to to mourn with nothing but her thoughts and memories she would have to either run away from her problems and die like (vriska). Or face the consequences of her actions and rise above herself.
Her pride and ego wouldn't let her just die after defeating bec noir, and her pilfered luck would allow her to find a way to survive.
The year of solitude would serve as her comeuppance.
No enemy nor challenge to distract herself with, other than dealing with crippling guilt and her own glaring faults.
In time she would become a better Vriska, one that could keep her head above the mayhem and never let herself be fooled again.
She be...
[Vriska]
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>>95021422
THAT WAS A DERSE TWIST ON LEPRECHAUN CULTURE
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>>95021449

Water is wet.
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>>95021422
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PROSPIT AND DERSE SOCIETIES YOU IDIOT.
I DON'T THINK THEY EVEN KNOW WHAT HAIR IS IN THE FIRST PLACE.
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>>95020175
Since you also brought up rose I also want to point out. HOW DOES HER HAVING A GRUDGE ON HER MOTHER AGAIN MAKE SENSE??? I DON'T GET IT IT SEEMED LIKE SHE WAS FINALLY GETTING OVER IT AND WAS REMORSEFUL ABOUT BEING ANTAGONISTIC TOWARDS HER MOTHER.
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Homestuck ended at act 5.2
VRISKA <3 JOHN F8REVER!!!!!!!!
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>>95020678
>tfw you will never see Ms. Paint's and Slick's wedding because Slick is fucking dead and tumblrinas won't stop defending Hussie's writting with shitty excuses and things like "le ultimate selff xD"
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>>95021468
>>95021519
THEN DID YOU CHUCKLE FUCKS PERHAPS CONSIDER THAT WIG FASHION WAS SPAWNED FROM THE DESIRE TO IMITATE THE MAJESTIC MANE OF THE HOOFBEAST CREATURES OF THE BATTLEFIELD? DID YOU EVER CONSIDER REMOVING YOUR HEAD FROM YOUR ANAL CAVITY FOR FIVE FUCKING SECONDS TO CONSIDER THAT INCREDIBLY SELF EVIDENT POSSIBILITY?
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>>95020039
All of them
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>>95021607
Spoken like a man with true STRENGHT.
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>hated every forced romance ship in homestuck
Feels good man.
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I dropped off around the time the Jane was introduced but I could give less of a fuck about the shitfest that's the story
what happened with the top names of the shit communities like generalivan or Von Fawn and how bad did Tindeck get
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>>95021670
Generalivan deleted his channel and everything he did years ago.
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>>95020857
You are now on a list, not one I've made, but I'm certain someone has you in their sights.
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>>95021416
What if StabDads Tengen Toppa fight?
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>>95020857
>people still don't realize that Hussie railroaded (Vriska) into forced Scourgecest

Thanks, Shelby!
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>>95021670
General Ivan works for Funimation i think? He also shit post on tumblr once in a blue moon

VonFawn managed to get a job at Bioware, Voicing shit in Dragon age Inquisition and Mass Effect Andromeda. She cut all form of internet communication though.
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Nora's dead

I read act 8 and act omega out of sheer boredom the other day, they're both shit

still gonna play hiveswap like a big cuck
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>>95020175
>>95020275

Ding and ding. She never said or did another interesting thing after she started dating Rose. The thrill was in the hunt. Once they were together, they had nothing left to do. They'd crossed the finish line and spent the rest of the story just kind of listlessly milling about.

Actually, Rose grappling with alcoholism was kind of interesting, but then that got retconned away because Vriska is better than character development.
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>>95021843
http://friendlybatteringram.tumblr.com/post/154947724188/altstuck
A better ending
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I still refuse to believe it's over and I'm waiting for the next Caliborn update
That was his name right

Damn I'm probably not going to remember all the trolls names by the end of this year
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>>95021124
>>>>That gave me a warm Problem Sleuth feeling
Captcha: Jaguar
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>>95021843
If you want a decent Homestuck endgame fan fiction, I recommend you to read Altstuck.

And yes, both Act 8 and Act Omega are shit.

Also fat Karkat.
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>>95021973
Chefkat just didn't want all those meals he made for everyone go to waste because those ingrates don't know perfection when it's literally handed to them on a platter
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>>95021973
It seems Herpus Derpus got ahold of a JuJu then.
Also, still wrong there "Jerry"
>John Madden at the Sports Octahedron
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>>95022047
Wow, you just love your own opinions too damn much don't you?
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>>95022107
Someone's upset.
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>>95020540
>Read this as Queen's Blade yet again
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>>95022047
This desu. The whole story ended on quite a bad note unless the epilogue, which will totally come out, fixes things.
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>>95018715
His dad died? I never ever heard of that.
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>>95022185
I am made out of organic matter beholden to biological fallacy on a severely wounded and poisonous world, yes. Toxic in my Jimmy Rustle brigde game you would say, I'm sure.
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>>95018420
Act 6 went down the drain. The retcon powers were super interesting and GAME OVER set an interesting stage, but everything after that was pure horseshit. Ruined Dave, for one.
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>>95019604
Ah fucking christ
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When is the continuation of The Inaugural Death of Mister Seven coming?
Is Jones still working for Homestuck?
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>>95021887
>that got retconned away because Vriska is better than character development.
Oh yeah. I forget sometimes that the Rose that's on Earth C had her alcoholism solved by Vriska knocking a bottle out of her hand.
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Reminder
>Undertale came before Hiveswap
>Grimnoire came before Hiveswap
>Episode 3 came before Hiveswap
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>>95022294
That shit's fuckin' dead, Anon
Even deader than Hiveswap
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So were god tier powers ever expanded upon?
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>>95023013
Nah, you get shelby-approved Davekat instead.
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>>95023049
She actually wanted Daverezi...
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>>95023063
Nah you're thinking of the other two
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>>95023063
Who didn't?
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>>95023063
is that from the interviews? because i think that was angle, or who ever was the animator of act 7.
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At least some of the characters were cute.
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>>95023063
me too...
me too
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>>95023924
I didn't.
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>>95023881
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mh1D0bcWV0
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>>95024000
eh thats chill people got different tastes
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Andrew getting a girlfriend was the original derailment at about the time Mr. Egbert, Ms. Lalonde, Eridan, and Kanaya were killed.
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so how did it end
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>>95024299
poorly
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>>95024299
It managed to disappoint absolutely everyone
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>>95024299
Where'd you stop reading?
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How could the ending have been improved?

How would you have written it if you could?
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>>95024647
No davekat
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>>95024647
am i stuck will all the previous acts?
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>>95024663
Why did davekat happen anyway?

There was no build up.

No prior teases of romance.

They just shared love interests. That's it. Jade and Terezi.

How the hell did they end up endgame? Was it literally just because of pandering? I think I read somewhere that Hussie's girlfriend shipped it, so is that the only reason he did it?
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>>95024359
>>95024519
I'm still nostalgic for when homestuck was mostly dumb syntax jokes. Those were the days.
>>95024634
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=009499 is the exact page where I stopped following it. I don't really remember what was happening
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>>95024716
His girlfriend's sister actually. And now Homestuck is just that one gay comic
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>>95024675
You can rewrite any acts you want.
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>>95018995
>that painful wink
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>>95024749
I'm gay and even I think ending your comic with everyone in some kind of gay relationship is poor writing.

It's literally just pandering to fujoshits.
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>>95024803
Didn't even end with that, he hooked up with Jade. that's how Huss manage to disappoint even the fujos.
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>>95024828
Don't trust the obsessed Davejade tard. No one got with anyone.
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>>95021670
>generalivan
>top name

Christ
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>>95024853
That's how you know he's old
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>>95024853
hey, I wasn't going to go to their actual forums but that fucker was in every general thread back in the day so that name stands out to me
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the teens stood together in small groups. anything else is projection and fanfiction.
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>>95024846
Well that just disappoints everyone. And what's wrong with davejade?
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>>95024879
>teens
They're old enough to drink now
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>>95024828
Dave wound up with both Jade and Karkat from the looks of it. I guess a polyamorous relationship is a way to compromise the most vocal fractions of shippers. Plus it's *quirky* and not as commonplace as heterosexuality.

It also badly disguises the fact that everyone's gay. Karkat and Dave are still fucking with or without Jade. Sure, she probably fucks with them occasionally, but they're still primarily doing each other. Jade was a little slut in the earlier parts, now she's become a cuck.

At least she's still in some relationship though, unlike John. I wouldn't be surprised if John's endgame was just eternally trying to kill himself in depression, only to be revived again and again.
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>>95024884
>what's wrong with davejade
Annoying fanboys.

>Me: "I hate the shitty shipping pandering and fuck Davekat."
>Fanboy: "Yeah, Karkat is a cuck and Dave fucks Jade all day. BREEDSLUT MEMES LOL And now let me shitpost in this thread and prove why this ship is perfect. Just like the Karezi, Johnrose and Johnvris shitposters doing the same shit."

I would rather listen to Katnep anon talking about his crackship fanfiction and make silly shitty remarks than reading the same copypasted shit about dead ships that Hussie doesnt give a fuck anymore.
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Remember when the adventure after Homestuck was going to make Homestuck look like Problem Sleuth?
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>>95021843
>>95021973
The only good thing that came out of Act 8 was when Dave and Dirk discussed the final SBAHJ moive and when John referenced the joke ending of Evangelion.

"DIRK: It was touted as a masterpiece of film history, just like all the others. It pushed the boundaries of cinematography so far it fell right of the cliff face of insufferable self-parody and straight into an ocean of cash money.
DIRK: The Emd Of Sweet Bro And Hella Jeff: Finale Moobvie Extraordinaire In 11th-D was a limited time, fifty nine hour epic completely plagiarizing Lord Of The Rings.
DIRK: Critics dubbed it the next Citizen Kane. Mostly because it was advertised as a direct sequel.
DIRK: It was so complex that the government actually had to subsidize the budget for it to be completed on schedule, not to mention construct the other needed eight dimensions.
DIRK: I suspect it was all a farce to funnel resources away from the burgeoning juggalo party. But I'll never know for sure. All copies were destroyed after the limited theater runs.
DIRK: And because of that I never even got to watch it. Which might have been the best idea, since I found more than a few articles about test audiences needing to be hospitalized. Some couldn’t speak words correctly for the rest of their lives.
DAVE: harsh
DAVE: did i really do that to people
DIRK: Did what you had to for art, man.
DIRK: That's nothing. The shooting alone was famously brutal. Owen Wilson actually ended up dying on set.
DAVE: aw man not owen wilson
DAVE: i dont need that guys blood on my hands shanghai noon was alright
DIRK: Don't worry, he was remembered as a national hero.
DIRK: Rumor has it he died cradled in your arms, his last words; "Thank you sir".
DIRK: But those stories are probably exaggerated."
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>>95024956

They're always teens in their hearts
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>>95025036
>adventure after homestuck

Hussie really isn't going to do anything anymore, is he?

He's made his money. And he can't top HS' success.

I wonder what he's going to do from now on?
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>>95025117
I think there was talks about him going into television, either with Homestuck or another project, but I'm not sure how well that's going.
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>>95025117
Go to conventions wearing minions t-shirts and playing with fidget spinners.
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>>95024995
>At least she's still in some relationship though, unlike John.
WHY THE FUCK DID HE TEASE WITH ROXY
FUCK
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>>95024757
???
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>>95025150
Oh boy, I can't wait for John Egbert and the cursed child
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>>95025150
im really hoping for an sbahj adult swim show

its tv, it would totally be some shit youd see at 2 in the morning on there, and sbahj images were also in the january newspost
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>>95025200
>im really hoping for an sbahj adult swim show
Sure itll get on right after Hellbenders
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>>95025162
he did it with terezi too.
also i drew that, hi
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>>95025304
Draw joxy lewds
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>>95025030
All of those are toptier ships
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>>95025180
I honestly could see Hussie saying stupid shit like J.K. Rowling on his twitter in his golden years in a vain attempt to stay relevant.

>"trolls don't have sex ed, they just learn how to mate through massive orgies"
>"toilets don't exist on alternia, but since their shit is clear, they just go wherever whenever"
>"my biggest regret about homestuck is killing................. vriska"
>"john actually is a homosexual."
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>>95025332
i did once, the only lewd thing i've drawn. and it was a joke.
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>>95024758
The more I think about it, the more I think Homestuck may have been destined to become a train wreck from the start, rather than Hivebent actually causing some shift in Hussie's writing. Nothing could have delivered on those early promises, and no amount of rewriting fixes the problem.
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>>95025349
That already happened, remember "peachy"?
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>>95025370
Literally everything post game over was a waste a time, start from GO and you can absolutely have a conclusive ending so long as you dont have an ending already fucking written
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>>95025349
Nah, if he's like Rowling he'll say Johnrose was his original intention
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>>95025370
rewrite act 6, make it shorter, and more of the style of hivebent when introducing the alpha kids, then just lead up to act 7 or something.
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>>95025117
Oh boy I can't wait to see Homestuck: The Movie
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>this was already over a year ago
I want to go back
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>>95024647
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>>95025737
No.

Just no.
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>>95025363

You should do more, joke or not. All lewds are good lewds
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>>95025752
>Vriska
>Thighs
No, Vriska is a fucking stick.
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>>95025537
In retrospect, the part where game over John and Roxy agree to be skinwalkers and then vriska saves the universe in vriskagram was when I truly lost all hope.
Its as impressive as it is depressing.
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>>95025916
there's this one John that got pushed out during the retcon, I think it was the first real jump back to terezi which leads up to her plan. What ever happened to him? Did he just get ereased, or did he go back to his own variation of the void with Roxy? What if because he was told they would be irrelevant anymore he just said fuck it and stayed in the void there with Roxy and the sprites that hitched a ride? What if eventually they would revive Rose, Mom and Dad As Roxy learned about her powers and made 3 copies of the ring of life? What if they just stayed in the void and lived happily somehow?
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tfw you'll never see a drawn version of this except with Calliope beaten up, bruised and bloodied..
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>>95024733
Alternate Calliope and Jade have a talk about how space is about loneliness and about Alternate Calliope's past.
Roxy gives Calliope the ring and she's brought back to life.
Echidna makes a deal with Kanaya, says that she'll allow the conception of another universe if Kanaya protects Karkat. Kanaya knocks him out so she doesn't have to worry about him.
Dave and Dirk talk. Dave's gay and Hussie tries to make Dave's Bro's earlier actions in the comic come across as SERIOUS ABUSE.
Roxy finally creates the matriorb and gives it to Kanaya.
Vriska bullies (vriska) to get the treasure, Meenah abandons (vriska) and goes with Vriska because she thinks (vriska's) a wimp.
Nepetasprite is created by Jasprosesprite.
GCATravosprite is formed so GCAT won't interfere with anyone's battles.
Original Tavros turns up in the dream bubbles with an army he created and immediately gives it to Vriska.
Original Davesprite shows up, turns out he was chilling on John's planet the entire time.
Davesprite accidentally combines with Nepetasprite, becoming Davepetasprite^2.
Terezi somehow unlocks her mind powers by apologizing to Vriska.
Spades Slick drops the Felt ontop of Jake because why not.
Alternate Calliope prepares to use a giant black hole to destroy the Green Sun.
Everyone prepares to fight their respective bosses.
Jake defeats the felt, Karkat helps by beating Clover.
Condie is killed with Dave's Bro's katana by Roxy.
Jack English and Spades Slick are both killed by Dave.
Caliborn beats the shit out of Yaldabaoth and gets his powers.
Bec Noir gets his arm chopped off, but gets to live.
LE is sucked into Calliope's black hole. Davepetasprite, Meenah, Tavros, and Vriska are assumed to have been dragged along with him.
PM and WV throw the queen rings into the Forge to ignite it.
Everyone enters the new universe.

I forget most of what happened in the credits video and the snapchat updates so you're gonna have to go look those up on your own.
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>>95026010
I mean their was the one john that he pushed though to complete the timeloop
The John in the new timeline just got fucking murdered and no one gives a shit despite that sort of thing being the whole crux of Davesprites character
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>>95025543
Degeneracy
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>>95025085
I liked this more than anything else I read in the last half year of homestuck
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>>95025036
I want to know what the fuck ws the problem sleuth hammer. It wasn't going to be the warhammer of zillyhoo I think.

>>95025543
GET THAT CANCER OUT OF THERE OUT. The only double squared sprite i'll accept is JASPETA.
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>>95026226
the one john he pushed through was the one i was talking about.
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>>95026133
You forgot this.

THANKS FOR PLAYING.
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>>95026299
The two Johns had a conversation where one said that he guess he'd just fuck off, maybe he'd come back later but he understands if he would have no later effect on the plot. I'm not joking.
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>>95026370
Oh yeah.
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>>95018420
Would it have been better if Homestuck was cut short at a later part? I admire Hussie's ability to finish what he started (I have read many comics that remain dead to this day), but I feel it would've gone off better if it ended sooner instead of running on steam
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>>95026247
Thank austinado, the parts of his dialogue that he got in were actually pretty solid and were pretty much the only redeeming qualities of A8.

It's CSS is fucked now but he also wrote a Caliborn based sidestory for it called ACT ACT ACT ACT ACT ACT ACT ACT: NEW, which has to be one of the greatest fan-Caliborns I've read:

http://mspfa.com/?s=15135&p=2

It also comes with a mashup album, which was made by Caliborn in his unfinished plight to become "new": https://thenewcaliborn.bandcamp.com/releases
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Was Dave's Bro really an abuser?
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>>95026397
Yeah, he goes off to be happy, Clearly he was the better John. By leaving the comic.
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>>95025304
>>95025332
>>95025363
you should kill yourselves
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>>95026299
>>95026397
Actually I just found the page.
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=009071
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>>95026488
Were Tom and Jerry in an abusive relationship?
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>>95026523
man, fuck that conversation.
John was the villain all along.
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>>95026488
Was mom
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>>95026553
Remember when John beat up an autistic child because he didn't like his comic?
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>>95024716
A combination of pandering, not really caring anymore, and wanting to stick it to some bigoted boogeyman.
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>>95026563
I abuse mom's mouth and vagina
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>>95026657
What about her ass?
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>>95026657
Hopefully with protection
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>>95025162
Johnroxy was top tier, super hinted at, and went nowhere.
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>>95026666
yeah sure.
>>95026688
she'll be wearing a knee pads. don't worry
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>>95022567
HL2E3 did not come out before Hiveswap.
but the Sandra & Woo's game did.
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>>95026701
Maybe you shouldn't have been such a nervous investor
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>>95026738
I'm glad we're running that into the ground
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>>95026730
The writer leaked the general plot of what it would've been, so that's as close as we're ever gonna get.
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>>95026488
At the start of the comic, nah. But we have to have SERIOUS MOMENTS so having fucking ninja fights using real time stop motion puppets is emotionally scarring child abuse.
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>>95026730
I have bad news for you...
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>>95026630
evil
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>>95026738
I don't know what you mean.
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>>95026795
What about cramming every available nook and cranny in the kitchen full of knives and explosives?
Making Dave an unwilling accomplice in puppet snuff fetish films? THROWING HIM DOWN THE STAIRS?
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>>95021483
wet is the perceiveable sensation of coming into contact with water
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>>95026116
I was personally referring to the one about Roxy getting her face ripped off during a kiss you abominable zoo inhabitant :o(
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>>95026828
I'm glad umbrella guy is happy
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If you didn't like the direction of the comic towards the end, you will hate the game guaranteed, just think about the losers who made it.
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>>95026828
who gives a shit it's gonna suck anyway

and fuck you too
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>>95027331
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>>95026779
We've gotta beat the horse dead on every meme to kill off every good memory of Homestuck. It's the only way to be free.
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>>95024050
This sounds exactly how I remember one track from Deadly Premonition sounding like. Are they the same track even? Did Hussie (or whoever made this track) use DP as inspiration or something?
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So do you degenerates still shitpost and erotic roleplay with each other
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>>95027761
yes
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>>95022567
>misspelling Hivebent
>shame
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>>95026781
that doesn't count and you know it
that's like saying those design sheets counts as Megaman Legends 3 being released
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>>95028525
The plot does count
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>>95028568
no it fucking doesnt. A vertical slice of a demo is the bare minimum that would count because it's playable. An alpha with barely functioning UI and your lucky jumping doesn't crash the game counts. Writing does not a game make, even a visual novel forces you to engage with it occasionally
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>>95028605
The plot does count
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Are they even doing the fucking Snapchat post-story epilogue thing anymore? Did the new guy doing them satisfy his goal of spiting Trump or whatever?
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>>95028688
Andrew realized nobody liked his totalitarian gay paradise so it was canned
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>>95028688
No and no
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>>95028688
untill joey and the meme queen second best at memes make out and have a loving lesbian relationship, then no. also snaps are canceled.
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>>95028745
>>95028752
>>95028755
lmao

It was """"""fun""""""" while it lasted.
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Was he the most competent person in all of Homestuck?
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>>95028805
I remember the first ones being good, but it jumped the shark when Jane got fucking kidnapped into the moon, completely stopped caring about it after that shit happened
And I'm only realizing how ridiculous it actually was by reading what I'm writing right now, Jesus
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>>95028919
the janeroxycallie date was good?
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>>95028805
It wasn't even ironic fun
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>>95029596
It was fun like watching a train wreck
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>>95030079
It was less fun than watching a train wreck.
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>>95030159
>>95030079
Have either of you even ever seen a trainwreck
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>>95030200
What a dumb question.
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I wish there was more art of this ship.
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>>95019789
he explicitly stated interest in vriska shortly after she died, continued to show interest, was angry when he found out she died refused to give the ring to tavros out of jealously, then seemed upset when he found out she dated alt-him, then broke up.
his feelings turned to resentment later.
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>>95030200
does reading Homestuck count
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>>95024995
Nah,Hussie is probably saving her for the hero of the story, Davepeta.
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>>95030635
This
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>>95030771
Davepeta is, thankfully, dead.
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>>95030891
Wishful thinking does not make something true.
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>>95020039
>>95021014
oh man, john would have been able to kill jack AND save his dad.
i find it impossible to believe that hussie didn't think of this possibility. but it might be even harder to believe that he thought the current ending would be better.
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>>95020857
>a selfish, cowardly, and pathetic loser
and that's all she ever was when you take away her desire to harm others or hide her emotions by faking a persona.
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>>95031018
Yeah, hence why that thing is dead
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>>95018995
Pirating the hell of it. Man fuck them hard. I know there was a developement hell, but they should have kept better contact with the fandom. Hussie is gone for years barely saying anything ever and all the ''interviews'' were just asking opinions of the developers of best homestuck moments or how they got into hiveswap. They never ever said anything of importance or what the hell is going on the comic or whatever. Fuck them hard.

Would it kill them to try at least a bit more of communication? Would it kill anyone to take a stand instead of letting whatever goodwill or pity the fans had for them after everything that happened?

They had delays and never saying anything about a point-and-click game! A fucking point-and-click game! Delays are only forgiven if there is decent communication of what's going to happen and that only if the game has a great gameplay or great story to compensate for it. Point-and-click has no gameplay on the purgatory that's worth all this and no one believes the story will be worth it considering how the author ended his previous work and that this is just act. fucking. ONE!
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>>95031388
Shut up and buy more shirts dweeb.
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>>95031156
She always tried. It was a fucking disaster almost every single time, because Vriska is fundamentally a terrible and broken person who didn't recognize her own patterns, and change is probably the hardest thing in the world, but she never stopped trying to be better a person and she never acted like she didn't have a certain responsibility to her friends. And that's the most compelling and sympathetic aspect of her character, no matter how many times she fucked it all up, no matter how much she kept getting knocked down, she got up kept trying to help, kept trying to find a way to not be so awful.

But then (Vriska) just gave up. Let it all go. Let go of her responsibilities, let go of her ambitions, let go of her desire to change, let go of her friends, let go of everything.
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>>95026397
he probably went to go see his denizen, and got killed, just like the version that got blown up with davesprite.
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>>95026630
or that time he tried to kill dave sprite?
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>>95031571
>but she never stopped trying to be better a person
>But then (Vriska) just gave up. Let it all go. Let go of her responsibilities, let go of her ambitions, let go of her desire to change, let go of her friends, let go of everything.
(vriska) literally was a better person, solely by virtue of ceasing to actively harm people for entertainment, or sometimes under the guise of "bettering them"
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And now, a cry of anguish in memory of the broken promises, the ending we never received, the utter abandonment of what could have been an amazing series.
https://youtu.be/rUeTlk2F8DI?t=6
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>>95031828
She had the key to saving the entire Universe and the lives (and ghosts) of everyone she ever knew. And she said "fuck it".

I have a Hell of a lot more contempt for someone dooming other for the sake of apathy than something like her part in creating Bec Noir.
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>tfw John x Roxy will never be cannon
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>>95026972
Water is constantly in contact with water.
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>>95032215
>tfw John x Terezi will never be cannon
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>>95032265
>tfw John x Vriska will never be cannon
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>>95032215
>>95032265
>>95032319
>tfw John x Depression x Loneliness is cannon
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>>95032319
Thank God for that
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>>95018420
Homestuck was entirely ghost-produced with absolutely no input from Hussie by the end.

Hiveswaps dev hell is a different story altogether, and seemingly a very tragic one. According to the fired 'WP?-Studios' staff, the 3D version of Episode 1 was 80%+ complete and waiting on certain unknown bottlenecks (NOT from the graphics team), with most staff having moved on to Episode 2.

Then, two years ago, they cancelled it all suddenly and started over on the 2D version, mostly re-purposing concept art as actual game assets.
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>>95032043
>Hey 8eter
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>>95032215
>>95032265
>>95032319
>tfw John x Anybody will never be cannon
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>>95032215
>>95032265
>>95032319
>>95032367
>>95032436

Truly, we have all lost in the end.
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>>95032477
:( he deserve happiness
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>>95032615
It sucks for Karkat, WV, and Terezi too
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>>95032766
Man at the very least karkat has a home surrounded with friend. WV got to archive his goals, thought Terezi is something i can agree on.
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>>95032861
WV had his ideal government replaced with a religious dictatorship that is also probably a hereditary monarchy
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This discussion is all well and good but what's you anons' classpects?
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>>95032615
>>95032477
>>95032436
>>95032319
>>95032367
>>95032215
>TFW the only one that talks to john anymore is caliborn
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>>95032914
gross
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>>95032615

Yes he does. He deserves much happiness and many Lalondes.

>>95032929

At least he's beaten the shit out of Caliborn whenever he gets the chance.
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>>95033046
>In an unexpected twist john its the only human to truly fills his quadrants
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>>95031828
>"(Vriska) was a better person"
>by beoming Meenah's accessory and yes-man
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>>95033770
John <3 Roxy
Vriska <3 Vriska
Vriska <> John
Roxy <> Terezi
Terezi <3< John
Vriska<3< Roxy
John c3< Vriska/Roxy
Roxy c3< John/Terezi

Those 4 could have had their quadrants full
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>>95032215
>>95032265
>>95032319
>>95033929
>giving a fuck about Bland the Human

Only shelby-approved characters and ships are allowed to get the focus.
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I'm so amazed with the fact that every time I come here, and it takes me months to do so, there's a Homestuck thread
Read a few days ago some guy on twitter saying that all of those who say they overcame HS and don't care anymore are liars
Guess it's true
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>>95034237
I you were likely being sarcastic, but I still think we need to take a moment to appreciate that John is the best character in Homestuck.
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>>95034248
Im mostly here to poach for erp partners and shitpost about how bad the ending is
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>>95033929
>last hetero man in the world
>gets all the bitches
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You guys I've got it, the reason why Hussie's so shit is because he's finally gone god tier and is living up to his title as a true Waste of Space.
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>>95034876
7/10 i chuckled
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I know like borderline jack shit about homestuck and couldn't really bear to click through past the part with the meteor in the beginning but I think Vriska is cute what do I do

I kinda want to add her to my waifus but I don't want to look like a major homestuck dweeb because I don't know shit about it
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>>95034971
undyene is vrsiska 2.3 so dont even bother with worst girl
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>>95034971
Well, you're in luck! Vriska is the gr8est character in the whoooooooole comic! Of course you should add her to your waifu list!
::::)
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>>95034992
Yes but I like them both

>>95035023
Dump a mega of Vriska pics for me, Vriska
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Say no to spiders.
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>>95034971
Sorry buddy, but Homestuck isn't a piecemeal thing, to get any of it, you got to go through all of it. To get any kind of grasp on the character you need to read the whole damn thing.

The comic is shit, and her character gets ruined, but hey, if it's a waifu you want, you can do worse than one who has Megalovania as one of her themes.
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there you go, lad

the weak should fear the strong
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>>95035094
Post more Vriska pictures
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>>95035138
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>>95035058
Can't do it man, I'm weak, I need my fix.

>>95035138
Here, have some of that good shit.
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>>95035138
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>>95019334
swing and a miss
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>>95035138
Read the fucking comic
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>>95035372
gotta love that stupid blind cunt
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>>95035138
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>>95032914
Almost every other carapace in the comic gets a similar ending.
Being a carapace is suffering.
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>>95035628
Except he's the only one whose ideals were so utterly shattered
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>>95035652
when bec punched a hole through wvs stomach he also punched a hole through his character
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>>95035827
Evidently a black hole that sucks away the character of every other character
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>>95035680
>lalondecest
spicy
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>>95035923
Too spicy for hotpockets
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>>95033904
>by beoming Meenah's accessory and yes-man

yes, that is correct.
she could have decided her lifelong passion was lying in a pile of trash for eternity, and she still would have been a better person

bear in mind I'm not saying that is good character design, but anything that reduced the amount of suffering she was inflicting on others intentionally would make her a better person.
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>>95036351
Must have burnt the tops of their mouths
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>>95036364
The problem was (vriska) was sitting on the house juju (literally) and had no plans handing off the juju capable of saving all reality from being destroyed to someone else. (vriska) was actively being responsible for a shit ton of death and destruction by just sitting there and doing nothing while acting like she just became a better person.
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>>95036483
she had no idea what it was used for.
are you seriously blaming her for not being omniscient?
alive vris had no idea what it does either, we have no reason to believe that it could actually harm LE
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>>95036483
The whole reason (vriska) didn't use the juju was because she couldn't use it. The narative was completely against letting (vriska) do anything because she was dead and the only thing the dead can do in homestuck was fuck around with other ghosts. Aranea was her only hope of even getting close to LE thanks to her ghost army and she ended up fucking off to whatever. So yeah, she was crestfallen. Literally the only reason Vriska was able to make use of the juju was because she was alive and tavros had already done all of the work by handing her a ghost army.
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>>95035449
but she's A DIRTY DISGUSTING FUCKIN WHORE
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>>95036763
You're confusing her with Jade.
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I stopped reading in 2012 tbph

The accelerating scope of the canon was too much for me compared to the amount of then-thus-far payoff.
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>>95036483
>>95018420

>The problem

THE PROBLEM with you filthy HOMEFUCKS is that you STILL haven't FUCKED OFF AND DIED when you CLEARLY should have LONG AGO.
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>>95037163
Hi hotpockets, don't you have a davekat ship to go jack off over
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>>95037163
B-But we need to talk about our dead fucking ships every thread!
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>>95037199
Yes, we do. Why are you replying to yourself
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>>95020067
kanaya was never good
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>>95037638
This
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>>95035138
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>>95037853
OPEN YOUR EYES, DUMB CUNT!
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>>95037853
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>>95037638
Dyke kanaya was great and Andrew shouldnt have "waifued" the sprite, she lost her personality as well and enabled the HSG memes.
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>>95028688

Interesting thing about that Snapchat nonsense:

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?viewmap=6

On the official "map" of Homestuck events, the credits are labelled as "post-canon," which to me suggests that everything after Act 7 counts as non-canon and thus essentially fanfic, including the snapchat stuff.
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>>95032215

A thought occurred to me about that the other day:

During the first five acts, Homestuck was LITTERED with Chekhov's Guns. Everything would be significant eventually. Everything was leading to something. It might take months or years for that gun to fire, but eventually even the most minor of plot points would pay off in some delightfully charming way.

The John/Roxy relationship is like the dead opposite of a Chekhov's Gun. Not only does it never go off, it's like a rifle pointed at the head of the protagonist which is never remarked upon, never acknowledged. As the final curtain falls, the muzzle of the gun is still pressed to the hero's head and never is a word spoken about it, leaving the audience to wonder what in the fuck the point of involving it in the story ever was.
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>>95037990
I miss when the map was subtle and didnt literally show future plot elements
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>>95038084
I miss when the pesterlogs were funny
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>>95037195
I don't give a shit about Karkat, Dave, Davekat or any of the 'main' cast and their dumb ships.

>>95037199
>>95037354
No you don't and nobody cares.
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>>95038140
You seem angry hotpockets, why don't you go leave several rule breaking threads up to calm yourself down. We all know how much you love not doing your job properly.
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>>95027882
still best ship
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>>95026488
sheesh, give a baby a sword once and everyone wants your head for it
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>>95038153
I don't even fucking know who that guy is.

See? That's gotta be telling of the comic's quality if people are more concerned with namefags and creator drama than the actual comic itself.
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>>95021637
>hated absolutely no ships until the end where random shit was forced
>watch the ship wars from afar with popcorn
feels good man
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>>95038255
>namefags
How do you not know what hotpockets is, how fucking new are you
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>>95038255
Its just him dont worry
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>>95038255
Seriously? Do you not know the whole hotpockets/"he does it for free" meme concerning moderators? It's not that old.
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>>95038300
not them but who?
I only really been in this thread for the final act.
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>>95022047
Why was this deleted?
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>>95037874
SHE'S ASIAN YOU RACIST ASSHOLE
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>>95038338
It's not a thread thing, it's a site wide thing.
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>>95019414
>…it’s also true that Slick fundamentally opposes creation anyway, and would have done it much more willingly if it wasn’t also tantamount to suicide in this case.
Is this cannon?
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>>95038539
That's Dersites in general, they oppose the cycle of naturally. Slick named himself Slick after Bilious Slick to spite Snowman.
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>>95038590
But would he have destroyed the universe after it was created?
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>>95038612
That's a theoretical question, I was strictly talking about what we know in canon. However what we do know is that Slick did create a city from the wastes, so you could argue that he rebelled out of his natural desires or something.
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>>95038694
Carapaces destined to be exiles are autonomous. Thats kinda a pun.
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>>95038728
Are they destined to be autonomous because they're destined to be exiles or because they're the only carapaces that appear in more than 3 panels?
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>>95038519
never seen it mentioned on /ic/, my home board
though I'm probably just a faggot
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>>95019288
>The ending sucked horsedick, it would've been better off if he never finished it honestly.
desu if I was going to recommend Homestuck to someone (I wouldn't, but IF I was), I'd give them the advice to quit reading at the Scratch and pretend Hussie died.
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>>95036763
im not saying shes not.
but shes hot.
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Do you think Rose secretly liked getting stepped on by Condy
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Reminder that Homestuck is still listed as [IN PROGRESS], which may not be due to forgetfulness seeing as he took the time to update the map
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>>95039085
We've probably still got the epilogue, whenever that releases.
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>>95039032
she's weird like that
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>>95030480
Like this?
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>>95032215
> tfw John x Rose x Aranea will never be canon
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>>95038539
That's a thing that dersites share in general, nothing new.
So we can say he rebelled out and left his old desires (like >>95038694 suggests).
And I think that that's the point of Slick's character: show us a more heroic Jack, and what would have happened if he didn't took control over the Queen's ring.
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>>95039032
there was a fic where the quadret lost against Condy and she proceeded to fuck them, starting with John. Sadly it never got beyond chapter 1...
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>>95038855
>/ic/, my home board
You're too good for this place
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>>95039323
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>>95040254
Aaand that's all I got.
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>>95040363
still got a few
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>>95040392
das karkat
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>>95039323
>>95040254
>>95040363
>>95040380
>>95040392
Yeah like that. BLESS.

>>95039470
I need the link please.
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>>95039361
Yeah, each of the Jacks that we saw, save for Caliborn's, had similarities and differences. That was the point with all the alternate selves like Davesprite, Lil Hal or the Guardians. They were the same person but the circumstances of their lives made them different people, they were all unique. But lol ultimate selves
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>>95040457
It's called "The S.S. Condescension". You should find it on AO3.
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>>95026488
Realistically? Yes. In the context of the comic? No. It just magically became abuse when it could be used to manufacture tension between Dirk and Dave.
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>>95026488
In the neglect sense, probably. Physically, no, that was comedic abstraction.
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A question.
Were the DD, HB and CD from the troll session exiled along with Slick, or did they just find a way to meet him on Alternia?
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>>95040546
I have to apologize tho. The link was considered spam for some reason.
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>>95040363
steel draws amazing Condy
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>>95041072
No you don't
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>>95041095
Shiiiiiiiit.
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>>95041115
Jealous Nepeta didn't stay with you Vriska?
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>>95041095
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kanaya is so cute
even her name is cute
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>>95040451
post pale?
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I'm a piece of shit that still has a bit of it still left in me. it was a really fun ride for the most part. high school we had to write about a chosen work of fiction and chose homestuck because fuck you. my classpect actually motivates me a tiny bit to be better. I have my music seperated into 4 playlists named after each quadrant because why not. I have screencaps of classpectanon's description of my land and shit.
my only regret was not drawing the characters like I imagined before it was over like I wanted to
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>>95041725
>tfw we didn't get to see fishmom shenanigans
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I couldn't sleep at night so I just came up with ideas for how Homestuck could've been better and being mad they never happened.

Jake should've gotten with Terezi and John should've gotten with Roxy. Terezi would've met Jake's blue chick fetish and Terezi already had a hatecrush on John, so it'd be ironic that she was in love with weird alternate grandfather/grandson. And John and Jake would be dating girls with the same hairstyle and polar opposite personalities.

Gamzee should have stayed good. You literally could have kept him good and brought in an evil Gamzee from an alt timeline and nothing would change. It'd still fit with his comedy/tragedy gimmick too. And you wouldn't have to fuck over a character's personality and development so badly that they no longer make any sense.

Dave should've fucked Jade AND Jane.

Rose and Kanaya should've had a much a worse relationship after Rose started drinking, and not one that literally resolves all the problems in a couple of panels. They needed to break up at least once before settling their differences.

Dirk should have had more interaction with Karkat.

I would have rather had Meenah come to life instead of Calliope. Calliope was just fucking useless except for making Hussie feel better. But Meenah's character was shafted. All of the dancestors were handled horribly. We could've gotten a cool Ace Attorney parody instead if tumblr. But anyway, the reason for having Meenah become relevant is because of her thing with Karkat that never went anywhere. What the fuck was up with that? Also it'd be more fitting for her to kill Aranea, who never actually did anything and was barely important despite being set up as a major threat.
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>>95042497
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>>95042289
>I have screencaps of classpectanon's description of my land and shit.
Care to post them, please? I'd like to get to see classpectanon's stuff again, they were really good
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sometimes I come here just to read how wrong yall are about everything, its kind of sad honestly
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>>95018420
Tried and true SJW flip around that time
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>>95043183
thanks for telling us that, shelby

we cannot wait for your ships such as Davekat, Scourgecest and RoxyCalliope to become canon and blow the fuck out of these hetero cis scum
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I am still mad about everyone abandoning John.
I am mad because I liked depressed John but then they just sort of shrugged off the implications (and what heavy implications they were)
I am mad Roxy is a skeleton pedo
I am mad Roxy is a thot who left a depressed john FOR her underaged skeleton
I am happy that karkat is forever mortal and Dave him and Jade are in a threeway, meaning when he dies Jade wins
I am mad at people thinking Jane is a good character when even Jake is better.
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>>95043286
i am mad that nepeta amounted to nothing
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>>95043286
Funny thing is that John has the perfect origin to become the next Lord English.
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>>95043286
>abandoning John
John could have lived with Roxy and Calliope together in the Carapace Kingdom.
John could have looked with Terezi in space together and it also panders to JohnVris fags as well.
John could have lived with fucking Dave, Karkat and Jade together like a wacky sitcom.

But he didn't. Don't blame others for him doing fucking nothing.
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>>95043286
My best friend's favourite alpha kid is Jane.
What do I do.
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>>95043421
I'm not.
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>>95043450
>thot abandons you for /ll/
>your fault
John did nothing wrong.
>could have lived with Jade
Maybe if he were social retarded. They clearly had a thing going on and wanted/needed space. If your mate is moving in with his girlfriend you don't follow. If a married couple you likes wants to move away you don't ask if they wouldn't mind getting a 2 bed-room so you can come too.
>terezi in space
We're not really sure what was happening there and hoestly it wasn't his thing. We can't know but I'd assume he'd hang with terezi were she actually not all 'lost in space'.

>>95043463
Treat them kindly. Life for mentally challenged people is hard without strong supports.
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>>95043520
but she was my favorite back whenever i read it years ago
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What would be Shelby's real god tier title?
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>>95043663
Prince of Light
Prince of Life
Prince of Space
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>>95043663
maid of trash
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>>95043663
can someone give em a quick rundown on who this flighty broad is and why she keeps getting brought up?
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>>95043520
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>>95043836
Our newest scapegoat whose sister also fucks Hussie and all her favorite character got the most attention post-retcon.
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>>95043836
>>95043836
You see the paragraph in this about "sociopaths"
shelby is that.
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>>95043988
>shelby
>NEW scapegoat

oh boy
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>>95043183
Reddit and hsd is even more wrong if you want more to laugh it
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Has Homestuck damaged art as we know it?
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>>95044164
arguably.
What has homestuck contributed? A rise of blood colored skin? Drawing characters as races and body types different from canon?
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>>95043421
thats not true
we got to see one of her ghosts double-die in the credits
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kinda sad how you guys need a scapegoat to blame for the fact that hussie's politics changed as he got more mature over the last 8 years and you guys havent changed at all. Hussie isn't cashing in on his lgbt audience, nor is he doing it to please people like shelby or rachel (that makes no sense, obviously they all idolize him so why would he do anything to please them?) Hussie just grew as a person, and maybe you guys should try it sometime.
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>>95044420
>hussie's politics changed
>he became mature
Nah, more like he dropped Homestuck and is cashing on fujoshit such as yourself who see fucking Homestuck as a lgbt/politics message.
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>>95018420
Cascade is the high point of homestuck. It all goes downhill from there.

>New boring characters steal screentime from everyone else
>Characters who are actually good undergo pointless teenage drama
>Retcon happens and erases or half of what happened in act 6
>Characters have dramatic off screen personality changes
>Introduces the funniest character in the show, only to make them a boring overpowered villain with no speaking lines
>Slick dies because of a fucking misunderstanding
>Vriska becomes the leader instead of Karkat
>Vriska kills Lord English instead of slick
>Vriska receives no punishment for her actions

Honestly if they just skipped all the bullshit, went straight to Collide, and kept Vriska dead it could have been really good.
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>>95044287
green blush is cute
>>95044300
that just made me sad
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>>95043581
Yeah but she was a joke character from the moment she was introduced.
>>95043859
Shoo.
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>>95043432
>imagine john becoming pic related
considering caliborn's passion for shitty twists and powers over inevitability
the idea of rigging his own defeat at hands of the four heroes would also prompt the rise of a heir to his legacy, would fit perfectly within his character.
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>>95044537
>green blush is cute
Nepeta and Kanaya were never cute.

Nepeta was just a one-dimensional bait character who died right as she was about to develop beyond that.

Kanaya is just plain ugly.
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>>95044578
That makes a lot of sense.

At the end John is alone, without friends or family.

If there's ever a HOMESTUCK 2 I hope John ends up going insane and slaughtering everyone in depression.
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>>95044420
Is becoming a hack and a fraud part of maturity?
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>>95044592
>Nepeta and Kanaya were never cute.

anon you're fucking with the two most prominent anons in these threads when you say that

one of which is my waifu (katnep anon)
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>>95044500
okay so you're wrong on the slick thing. In collide Slick actually held lord jack in place so that Dave could take him out. Slick must have realized that the only person who could harm lord jack was Dave (which is true since he possesses all of Lord English's powers minus first guardian powers). Therefore in order to take him out, Slick held lord jack in place so that Dave could take him out. Apparently he cared more about getting revenge than his own life, so he was willing to make the sacrifice. Obviously slick could have moved out of the way beforehand if he wasnt willing to trade his own life to keep lord jack in line with daves sword, since after all there was nothing holding him in place.
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>>95044684
There's no real evidence Nepeta is cute though.

Her puns become tiresome after awhile, she has a weird cleft pallete, and all she talks about are furries and ships. Most of which wound up being non-canon.

Her best friend is Equius. They aren't even fucking because she's so delusional and saving herself for Karkat, who at the end somehow ends up with Dave. The total opposite of Nepeta.

She's too flat and annoying to truly be considered "cute". She's more fake marketable cute than actual cute.
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>>95044653
relevant
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>>95044801
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>>95044712
Jack English isn't Lord English though. Jack English was an excuse by Hussie to make the comments on "Dave can beat LE" amount to something.

Slick was the one who antagonized Lord English from the start. He should have at least contributed to his defeat (Same with Dave to a lesser extent). He shouldn't have been pushed to the side so Hussie could suck Vriska's troll dick even more.

It's like if PM didn't defeat Bec Noir.
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>>95044822
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>>95044833
Oh btw, Dave still beats Lord English in the end. After the ultimate weapon gets unleashed, the beta kids get released from the juju and defeat lord english, Dave dealing the final blow. Its literally the only way to kill Lord English since hes completely immortal, unless you use a cueball due to it being the pendulum of his god tier clock which was revealed in act 7. The reason its not depicted is because the versions of the kids who kill him are from after the credits after having lived lives on earth in universe C, meaning we're not allowed to see exactly what happens until the epilogue since it would be out of order.

You're free to disagree with me, but you'll feel dumb when the epilogue comes along and proves me right.
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>>95044917
I hope your right that they betas come out and eat him. That would fix my problems with the ending and make Vriska less of a Mary Sue.
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>>95044917
>you'll feel dumb when the epilogue comes along
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>>95045015
>When the epilogue comes along
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>>95044917
>when the epilogue comes along
By showing you wacky SoL shit, forced Davekat and Terezi seeing a light at the end of the flash?

Who gives a fuck about the epilogue.
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>>95044653
>>95044578
That's too edgy. I preferred the story where Joey gets transported to the kid's planet and ends up taking up John's non-degenerate, non-infantalised version of Godhood legacy
I can't remember the details but there were a bunch of shit posts way back when and the end result was a pretty cool concept.
I don't recall but I think Joey either had to kill John who had gone mad being the only sane person left or she fucked up the remaining God kids who had devolved over time into their own vices, john being the only one who was a degenerate.
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>>95045089
Why can't we have both god!John and devil!John at the same time?

He has poorly defined retcon powers, he could be both.

I do like the idea of all the other god kids devolving into villainy. Reminds me of Overlord.
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>>95041652
Her creator certainly stopped being anything good too.
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>>95044980
its the only explanation that makes sense, and also they literally told us it would happen. Vriska predicted that 4 legendary heroes would be released from the juju to fight lord english, and she was right about everything else, therefore theres no reason not to take it at face value, especially when it lines up with everything else we know about caliborns mortality and Dave's character arc.
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>>95045087
I still could have worked the good fanfiction into a passable ending.
>giggle giggle giggle giggle giggle giggle giggle
Aloha.
>there's that word once more
Captcha: Northe East Business Moony
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>>95045160
Are the devil and god raging inside john?

>I'm not your friend
>I'm not your lover
>I'm not your family
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>>95045087
Problem sleuth had a genuinely good epilogue tying up a bunch of loose ends, are you really that jaded that you arent willing to believe hussie will do it too? Or do you just enjoy coming here to circlejerk about how bad act 7 is because you're incapable of actually stopping to put 2 and 2 together about what happened.
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>>95045284
for homestuck too* fuck
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>>95045284
But that was old Hussie. Nu-Hussie would fulfill every retarded pessimistic shitpost I make.
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>>95044794
>she has a weird cleft pallete
It's palate and she doesn't have one. You can see her mouthline is completely straight at times in the comic.

>all she talks about are furries and ships
Interestingly enough the only time she ever talked about any sort of relationships is with Equius about Aradia. She never told anyone about her flushcrush for Karkat either.

>They aren't even fucking because
Because they are MEOWRAILS you PHILISTINE and they are the BEST ONES in the entire comic.

>who at the end somehow ends up with Dave
It's not her fault some retarded cunt wanted to turn the comic into a homosexual parade.

>She's more fake marketable cute
That is bullshit. She is cute. She just doesn't have the time to be, because Hussie gave a proper introduction to 9 gajillion characters and then forgot that he can't actually write all of them.
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>>95045160
I just liked the idea of Joey, a semi-normal actor in the HS universe and an outside perspective coming in and seeing things as they are, fucked. John was screwed over and all of the kids are messed up and self-indulgent.
I mean they're immortal now. All they have to entertain themselves (before getting juju'd) is their new universe. They've already installed themselves as monarchs over several kingdoms, just for shits and giggles.
How long does it take for that to become tedious and a new form of involvement to be necessary? The introduction of conflict or complication for the purpose of entertainment?
The only grounded God is John. Half of the kids become seriously concerning WITHOUT being immortal Gods. Dirk for example.

I wish I could remember the details but in any case the idea of a third party taking on a now exhausted John's spirit and legacy is a fun one.

>you will never fight the armies of corrupt Gods as a champion for the one remaining virtuous God kid
Homestuck holy wars when?
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>>95044712
Slick doesn't even know who Dave is wtf
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>>95045281
No, because he was never their friend in the first place, it was just business to be done and checked off a list.
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>>95045367
I know for a fact you've seen the Dorian Gray inspired work on AOthree, don't play that card in my territory.

Boy. Or is it clearer if I stoop down and call you a child, does that fuel your strange motivation at this late hour?
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Hiveswap at PAX
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>>95045465
Do you expect me to walk there from here?
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>>95045380
John considered them his friends

>reminder that Rose was originally going to play Sburb only with Dave, but Dave was busy
>Reminder that that John giving Ben Stiller's shades to Dave and encouraging Rose to take up knitting meant nothing because in the post-scratch timeline Dave and Rose were the same in-spite of John's absence.
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>>95045483
No, like any convention you should ride a Jade cosplayer to there.
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>>95045503
>reminder that that John giving Ben Stiller's shades to Dave and encouraging Rose to take up knitting meant nothing because in the post-scratch timeline Dave and Rose were the same in-spite of John's absence
Wan't he just absent during the boat shit because he died?
It's been awhile but I don't recall scratch fucking too hard with pre-sburb stuff.
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>>95044653
>ywn see john go grimdark and kill his friends

>mangrit
>grimdark
>mandark
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>>95045558
poppop, anon.
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What's the point with this page?
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=3&p=MC0001
Was Hussie supposed to make a Midnight Crew adventure after Homestuck?
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>>95045558
>Wan't he just absent during the boat shit because he died?
He means the versions of Rose and Dave from the alpha kids session
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>>95045658
>>95045638
Oh I misread scratch as retcon.
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>>95039133
The epilogue is a spook. If it does ever come out it's gonna be on 4/13 2019 and be twenty or so pages of Jane doing businessy shit, Jade Dave and Karkat doing ambiguous friend things that confirm or deny nothing. Boring lesbian vampires, and shitty throwbacks to some minor characters. Literally nothing. It doesn't deserve thinking about.
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>>95042289
You sound like such a girl
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>>95044287
You know what? Yeah, you're right. Homestuck contributed to absolutely nothing. I mean, hell, you can ask around about it on the internet and at least 4 in every 10s of people will have no idea what it is. Here's what Homestuck will be remembered for:
>A cancerous fanbase
>A disappointing ending
>Eventual bad writing
>A failure of a kickstarter
>Semi nostalgic memes
>Being that one webcomic where apparently everyone is/becomes gay
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>>95045923
10,000 pages and all it's remembered for is a halfassed gay ship
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>>95045923
>>95046068
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>>95046081
Dumb bitch can't even draw hair without making it Steven Universe. She just copies everything she likes with no originality.
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>>95044420
Kinda sad you need a scapegoat to blame for the fact that the comic nosedived in quality as it destroyed character arcs and story progression for the sake of plot convenience, bias and ships. Hussie didn't become more mature or progressive, he simply stopped giving a fuck about his own comic and wanted to get rid of it as quickly as he possibly could. But you're so self absorbed into your own bullshit that you see all the deserved criticism he's gotten over the years as bigotry and immaturity.
It's called taking your head off of your own ass, and you should definitely try that some time.
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>>95046081
even without any color I can tell that Dave's a darkie
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>>95046081
>the nose and hair
fucking stop
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>>95046325
You will like it, homephobe. Every Homestuck birthday will be another image of Davekat drawn in the latest tumblr meme artstyle.

And it don't stop.
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>>95046434
Go away, Shelby. No one likes you or your loser ship.
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>>95026116
not what you asked,but what you needed (i guess)
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>>95046434
tauhid is that you?
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>>95039342
This is so much better than mindwipes coloured work
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>>95047194
thought it was someone pissing in her face from thumbnail
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>>95047211
Why, would you
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>>95047211
I did too.
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>>95047297
because it's homestuck fanart
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>>95047349
No, I'm saying would you piss in her face
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>>95047446
to degrade her?
maybe its fetish thing
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>>95045284
>Problem sleuth had a genuinely good epilogue tying up a bunch of loose ends
Problem sleuth also didn't turn to shit 2/3s of the way through
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>>95047896
if anything it got better 2/3's of the way through
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>>95044420
>implying the only thing about homestuck that changed and alienated people is that it got more queer

come on now. gay or no gay, the last year of homestuck was a trainwreck
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>>95046735
I fucking love this HAHAHAHA.
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>>95046081
Also Davekatfags please gtfo and kys.

>>95046434
Go eat a dick faggot.
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>>95042805
sure, guess I'll post the classpect one too
wonder if he's still around

>>95045885
shit, my cover's blown
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>>95049049
and this

>>95048896
I admire you and nepetafag's dedication. I need something to doodle-gimme something, kanayafag.
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>>95049114
What about a beach Kanaya in a swimsuit since we're in summer and all? Or even a Kanaya with a hairstyle of your prefference?Could you draw that, Anon?
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>>95049049
>>95049114
I haven't been on /hsg/ long enough to know who that is, but I've been coming to my own conclusions about classpects and what-not. Give me a classpect or something related and I can tell you something about it.
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>>95027882
Were?
I thought cherub play and all that was all closed down
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>>95049885
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>>95049941
Sorry, meant to say there are other avenues for erotic roleplaying.
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>>95049959
>avenues for erotic roleplaying.
You mean like for other fandoms?
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>>95049991
No, I mean other sites for ERP Homestuck stuff.
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>>95044840
Wish this guy would keep making comics, honestly. That shit was hilarious.
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>>95050018
And those are?
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>>95050067
I dunno, just that they exist.
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>>95050109
Double Fine is making Homestuck?
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>>95050186
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>>95050038
There's not enough people left for that
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>>95050236
The fandom'll probably start up again with Hiveswap. I've already noticed a big drop in hairy Jades which is a sign of more activity.
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>>95050307
Old Hussie would have made fun of that kind of art.
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>>95050351
'Peachy'
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>>95050377
Old Hussie
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>>95050401
Which is why he changed it right?
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>>95050377
Peachy doesn't approach the level of horror we have nowadays. Drawing the kids as big hairy mutant gorrilas.
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>>95050415
I'm saying that i was referring to old Hussie
New Hussie did peachy.
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>>95049420
Rogue of Heart for myself
Seer of Heart for my Boyfriend

Prince of Life for my Fantroll
Maid of Light for his fantroll
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>>95050420
Man this Miraculous Ladybug fanart is getting weird
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Okay, this made me smile
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>>95050555
"slutty rose" is a redundant statement.
>>
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>>95050536
Too clever for Cohen, probably done by Hussie since he was supposedly doing flavor text.
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>>95050555
>those terrible figures
I want to go back
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>>95050647
Those have been around forever. But trying to translate Homestuck's sprite style into 3D did not work out well. At all. Rose goes from canonically adorable to weird alien.
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>>95050671
>that rose
umf
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>>95050707
Shortstack Rose is ideal Rose
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>>95050486
>Rogue of Heart
A Rogue of Heart distributes the souls others among their teammates. They fight by eliminating the drive of their enemies and providing it to others.

>Seer of Heart
Seers of Heart can get a very good glimpse about what makes a person and what drives the person and what their intentions are.

>Prince of Life
Prince of Life isn't synonymous with "killing life." It can do that, but there's more to it than that. A Prince of Life focuses on inflicting stagnation and and preventing things from healing. As you can imagine, a Prince of Life would fight by doing exactly that to their enemies.

>Maid of Light
I see Maids as a class of servitude. As such, a Maid of Light ensures that the right knowledge is distributed to the right people as well as providing luck when it best suits the situation. A Maid of Light would probably fight by bestowing luck upon their teammates.

Those are my best guesses at least. I hope I didn't miss anything
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>>95050733
Literally all of Homestuck should be the girls as busty and hot.
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>>95044420
Only thing he grew was his prostate from all estrogen acummulating in his body.
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>>95050826
Is that fucking Fred Perry
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>>95050555
Wait, PAX is this week? Fuck me.
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>>95050555
>selling noncanon outfits
WHY
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>>95050859
>Fuck me
Depends, how good do you look in a Jade cosplay

>>95050854
No, it's PoJ, same as usual.
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>>95050351
Old Hussie is still around, I think, just buried under a fucking avalanche of self-righteousness and depression. I truly hope that one day he can get his head out of Shelby's ass and make something worthwhile again.
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>>95049204
how about both sketches and with hair like rose?

>>95049420
well, how about my own for starters- rogue of hope
and let's also throw prince of heart and bard of rage in there
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>>95044420
>he got more mature over the last 8 years
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>>95050893
Jade is a low tier waifu.
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>>95050555
>it's right next to steven universe stuff
i'm not even surprised
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>>95050738
Fuck thanks but I also need to know Mage of Light for... uhhh reasons.

>>95050826
BLESS PLANET OF JUNK.
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>>95051050
WLF is a single stand.
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>>95051050
It's a WLF booth, so it has a bunch of popular tumblr things featured.
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>>95051105
Least WP aren't wasting their money.
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>>95050987
>Rogue of Hope
The other guy explained it well better than I ever could. See >>95049114

>Prince of Heart and Bard of Rage
Both of these were pretty self explanatory when they were shown in the comic, but if you want a brief description anyway, a Prince of Heart fights by destroying the souls of their enemies, and a Bard of Rage destroys by way of madness.

>>95051076
>Mage of Light
A Mage of Light probably would get their power from game changing revelations, as light is defined as the aspect of knowledge and luck. Said revelations could be pretty much anything that will help players fulfill their quests as well as other game objectives.
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>>95051105
I wish Mindwipe would do more Dave being flustered over those big Jade boobs, that was a great comic series.
>>
Remminder Andrew has not apologized for nothing.
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>>95051248
always nice to see people's wording anyways. wording is very distinct

be around next thread for muse and lord? and how the classpects are expected to grow?
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>>95051343
Sure thing, whenever that may be.
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>>95051321
Indeed, he just winked at us like a fucker.
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>>95051380
Eh, the wink was alright.
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>>95051389
The wink was as gay as Vriskagram
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>>95051389
Be sure to search davekat on wlf for a special surprise
*winkie
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The music won't stop being bad at least. Sometimes i listen the youtube radio, it has less bullshit than skaianet.
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>>95051316
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